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    GOP Outplaying its Wisconsin Hand

    I'm not going to sugarcoat it, losing the governor's race in Wisconsin sucked. While we'll crunch the numbers on turnout in a later post, the exit polls point to two major reasons why we weren't able to recall Scott Walker.

    First, 60 percent of voters thought that recall elections were only appropriate for official misconduct, while 27 percent said "any reason." Another 10 percent said "never"—and those voted for Walker 94-5. It's hard going into any election with 10 percent immediately off the board, and for those who said "only official misconduct," Walker won 68-31. Turns out people just didn't like the idea of a recall—something worth filing away as an important lesson learned. Read more here.

    By Kos | Daily Kos
    Posted on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
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    GOP Outplaying its Wisconsin Hand

    I'm not going to sugarcoat it, losing the governor's race in Wisconsin sucked. While we'll crunch the numbers on turnout in a later post, the exit polls point to two major reasons why we weren't able to recall Scott Walker.

    First, 60 percent of voters thought that recall elections were only appropriate for official misconduct, while 27 percent said "any reason." Another 10 percent said "never"—and those voted for Walker 94-5. It's hard going into any election with 10 percent immediately off the board, and for those who said "only official misconduct," Walker won 68-31. Turns out people just didn't like the idea of a recall—something worth filing away as an important lesson learned. Read more here.

    By Kos | Daily Kos
    Posted on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondual
    GOP Outplaying its Wisconsin Hand

    I'm not going to sugarcoat it, losing the governor's race in Wisconsin sucked. While we'll crunch the numbers on turnout in a later post, the exit polls point to two major reasons why we weren't able to recall Scott Walker.

    First, 60 percent of voters thought that recall elections were only appropriate for official misconduct, while 27 percent said "any reason." Another 10 percent said "never"—and those voted for Walker 94-5. It's hard going into any election with 10 percent immediately off the board, and for those who said "only official misconduct," Walker won 68-31. Turns out people just didn't like the idea of a recall—something worth filing away as an important lesson learned. Read more here.

    By Kos | Daily Kos
    Posted on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
    The average person just does not like the liberal whining and boy do liberals whine.

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    "Something worth filing away as an important lesson learned", nothing more.

    T-Cat - "Conservation of momentum applies to a system closed in kinetic energy, not a thermodynamically closed system."

    T-Cat on Potential Energy: "Which means that you aren't converting it all at any point until you reach the ground."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondual
    "Something worth filing away as an important lesson learned", nothing more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nondual
    GOP Outplaying its Wisconsin Hand

    I'm not going to sugarcoat it, losing the governor's race in Wisconsin sucked. While we'll crunch the numbers on turnout in a later post, the exit polls point to two major reasons why we weren't able to recall Scott Walker.

    First, 60 percent of voters thought that recall elections were only appropriate for official misconduct, while 27 percent said "any reason." Another 10 percent said "never"—and those voted for Walker 94-5. It's hard going into any election with 10 percent immediately off the board, and for those who said "only official misconduct," Walker won 68-31. Turns out people just didn't like the idea of a recall—something worth filing away as an important lesson learned. Read more here.

    By Kos | Daily Kos
    Posted on Wednesday, June 6, 2012


    The long term ramifications of Wisconsin may not parlay into that which some from the RW Camp wish to make it out to be:


    What the Wisconsin Recall Tells us About November: Nothing



    Must all politics be presidential?

    Tomorrow Wisconsin’s voters will decide whether to boot Republican Governor Scott Walker in favor of his Democratic challenger, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett. Polls show Walker slightly ahead.

    Inevitably, pundits have cast it as a “test run” for Obama/Romney. The seemliest have justified their compulsion to connect the two elections by leaning on a quote from Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chair of the Democratic National Committee, who described her party’s organizing effort in Wisconsin as a “dry run” for the presidential campaign. (Shhh, nobody tell those poor Wisconsin voters that their election is just practice!)

    Kind as it is of Wisconsin to offer itself as a bellwether for the benefit of Beltway political hacks, the favor should be declined. The Walker recall is important for plenty of reasons, but its value as a predictor of the national outcome in November is pretty much nil. First, let’s count the ways in which the Wisconsin recall is most similar to the presidential election: 1) It’s an election. 2) A Republican is running against a Democrat. 3) A few of the same national PACs are pouring money into it, and a few of the same state-level organizers are involved. (This, by the way, was the point Wasserman-Schultz was attempting to make when she put her foot in her mouth.)

    Now for a few ways in which it’s different: 1) It’s a recall. 2) It’s happening in June. 3) The incumbent is a Republican. 4) Neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney is running. 5) A significant number of states (49 by my count) will not be participating. 6) Need I go on?

    Drawing inferences about a national election on the basis of a state election is almost always tenuous, but it’s particularly so in the case of a gubernatorial recall, where the main issue is not the U.S. economy, health care, or national security, but the character and specific track record of the individual in office.

    Oh, and for those desperate for some kind of inkling of which presidential voters will choose in November: We could always ask them.
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...y_nothing.html

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