Reply With QuoteGoodbye Pirate Bay.Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
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If they censor the web will we be able to get around it? Does anyone know?
I found this on DU..
http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=439x2346109Which would essentially put most of the art on YouTube, etc. (and DU's breaking news videos) out of business and delete millions of fan created videos, political videos, and art and blacklist (impose a federal government filter) the sites they are hosted on, preventing anyone within the Continental US from accessing those sites.
But some ponies on DU just won't listen!...
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/17/...ticle-mostpop1
MORE: Verisign Seeks Authority to Shut Down Websites Without Court OrdersThere’s a disturbing bill making the rounds on Capitol Hill right now called the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA. It’s purportedly designed to thwart music and movie piracy by empowering copyright holders to isolate and shut down websites or online services found with infringing content. SOPA is the House version of the bill, introduced by Representative Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), and there’s another in the Senate called the Protect IP Act, introduced by Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). Hearings on SOPA began Wednesday, and the chances it’ll pass are excellent, because it’s backed by powerful business lobbies and has bipartisan majority support in both the House and Senate. If it does pass, the only thing that could shut it down would be a veto by President Obama.
In short, SOPA, if passed, would allow the U.S. government to blacklist any website found to have infringing material, inhibiting access to said sites using DNS filtering techniques similar to those employed by China and Iran. What’s “infringing material”? Anything deemed in violation of copyright, say a few posts by users in a web forum or on a social network—even links sent in email. What’s more, a website or Internet communication medium’s owners would be held liable for any infringing content, and the government would be empowered to cut off revenue to those sites’ owners and force search engines to block them, too.
What’s more, Yahoo in October exited the business trade group that supports the bill, and according to the Washington Post, Google and the Consumer Electronics Association are threatening to do so as well.
What Time doesn't mention in its article on the subject is that this bill would allow the federal government to censor sites containing ordinary user content -- i.e. "fair use" -- a concept some DUers appear to be unfamiliar with, if previous threads on the subject are any indication.
I.e. the federal government and site owners would be empowered to censor or demand payment from users for submitting videos of themselves singing a cover song, posting a clip or screencap or art based on a derivative work -- 99% of fan created art on the web.
It would also introduce what TIME (the most conservative of the major newsweeklies) calls "China and Iran" style Internet filtering nationwide -- the sort of thing DUers pressured Google to leave China over.
Yet when I posted a thread on this last week, I was accused of overstatement and claims the bill was dead, and/or had nothing to do with Protect IP]. Nonsense! PROTECT IP Act is the SENATE version. SOPA is the HOUSE version. People saying they didn't see how the two were related, or how it would affect anyone, your argument was invalid!
Last edited by Keyser Soze; 11-19-2011 at 08:11 PM.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
- Frank Zappa
When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure to be accountable ever be forgiven?
Goodbye Pirate Bay.
T-Cat - "Conservation of momentum applies to a system closed in kinetic energy, not a thermodynamically closed system."
T-Cat on Potential Energy: "Which means that you aren't converting it all at any point until you reach the ground."
I'm not familiar with Pirate Bay...
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
- Frank Zappa
When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure to be accountable ever be forgiven?
http://thepiratebay.org/browse/201
But don't forget to turn on your Peerblock before you go there.
http://www.peerblock.com/releases
T-Cat - "Conservation of momentum applies to a system closed in kinetic energy, not a thermodynamically closed system."
T-Cat on Potential Energy: "Which means that you aren't converting it all at any point until you reach the ground."
Thanks...I'll check this out later.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
- Frank Zappa
When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure to be accountable ever be forgiven?
There's always the Tor sites as well, but I suppose they will eventually find a way to block or track them. There will also be the proxy's out of country, but if something like this comes to pass, it will be increasingly difficult to gain access to those as well, but there will always be the underground spread by word of mouth sites, the greatest example are the Tor sites right now.
OK...again...I'm not familiar...any links? Thanks.
No, I'm not agent Mike...lol
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
- Frank Zappa
When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure to be accountable ever be forgiven?
the one that has probably gained the most notoriety is Silk Road. This link is from NPR, but I believe 60 minutes may have done a report on Silk Road as well:
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/12/137138...ers-amazon-com
As for the Tor project, you may learn about that here:
https://www.torproject.org/
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
Thank You...much appreciated.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
- Frank Zappa
When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure to be accountable ever be forgiven?
Do you use Tor? I've heard about bitcoins and this kind of underground thing but never accessed it. That's why I'm wondering if you use it. I've read about this kind of thing...it's a bit like science fiction to me....real time.
This is the kind of thing they're really after isn't it...they want to see everything so they'll protect that ability.
Anyway, Thanks for the links.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
- Frank Zappa
When the fate of so many rests in the hands of so few, can the failure to be accountable ever be forgiven?
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