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    Default Why do the Democrats hate public employees?

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    Title VII of the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 governs federal employer and employee labor relations.
    The unfair labor practice provisions of Title VII are similar to those of the NLRA; however, there are five major differences between private-sector employees under the NLRA and federal employees under the Civil Service Reform Act as follows:

    Federal employees are denied by statute the right to strike.

    The right of federal employees to picket is limited to informational picketing only. It is an unfair labor practice for a labor organization to picket a federal agency in a labor-management dispute if such picketing interferes with an agency's operations.

    The scope of mandatory collective bargaining for federal employees is limited to personnel employment practices only. Basic working conditions such as wages, hours of work, and employee benefits are instead subject to statutory provisions.

    Union and agency contract provisions as well as all other forms of compulsory union support are prohibited in the federal civil service.

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    Overheard on the short bus....."Why do the Democrats hate public employees?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Kimchi
    Overheard on the short bus....."Why do the Democrats hate public employees?"
    When did you hear that?

    Citizen is correct. There is a good reason why Federal Employees are restricted in their ability to collectively bargain those things listed. The primary reason being that they would be negotiating with the tax payer who does not have a seat at the negotiation table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetAClue
    When did you hear that?

    Citizen is correct. There is a good reason why Federal Employees are restricted in their ability to collectively bargain those things listed. The primary reason being that they would be negotiating with the tax payer who does not have a seat at the negotiation table.
    well OK. so doesn't the same hold true for state employees??


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    Quote Originally Posted by GetAClue
    When did you hear that?

    Citizen is correct. There is a good reason why Federal Employees are restricted in their ability to collectively bargain those things listed. The primary reason being that they would be negotiating with the tax payer who does not have a seat at the negotiation table.
    I love unions, hate the plutocracy.

    Got it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicRocker
    well OK. so doesn't the same hold true for state employees??
    It should. I believe that is what the legislatures in Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana and other states are trying too accomplish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Kimchi
    I love unions, hate the plutocracy.

    Got it?
    I have no beef with those people working in the Unions. However, the Union leadership is corrupt and needs to be taken down. Unions served their purpose and need to now be dismantled. They now only exist to provide funds to Democratic politicians in exchange for favorable legislation that enables the Unions to survive. It is akin to a money laundering program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetAClue
    I have no beef with those people working in the Unions. However, the Union leadership is corrupt and needs to be taken down. Unions served their purpose and need to now be dismantled. They now only exist to provide funds to Democratic politicians in exchange for favorable legislation that enables the Unions to survive. It is akin to a money laundering program.
    What a fucking moronic statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye2j
    What a fucking moronic statement.
    While a tad generalized...it isn't that far off.

    To be more accurate, the unions exist to collect millions of dollars in dues, and the execs. live life high on the hog.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GetAClue
    the Union leadership is corrupt and needs to be taken down......... They now only exist to provide funds to Democratic politicians in exchange for favorable legislation that enables the Unions to survive. It is akin to a money laundering program.

    Classic, textbook talking point, courtesy of your corporate masters.

    And given you're obviously no captain of industry, also a classic example of the Stockholm Syndrome. You'll carry water dawn to dusk, never miss a beat defending the oligarchs who just cashed in YOUR middle class.

    They told you a membership was surely awaiting you at the country club, you fell for it. They told you your own government was standing in the way of that golden tee-off time, you bit. They convinced you the world is populated with many 'evil liberals', all hell-bent to form a communist collective and make you work in a rice paddy for $2/day - sounded about right to you.

    Rupert (or one of his pals) has destroyed your brain.

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