Liberalism Dead In America

[TheRightWing]

Why do people think America is going to move to the left in the next election? Right now there's 44 Blue Dog Democrats...Conservative, religious driven politicians, that appear to be Democrats in Name Only. 9 Seats picked up in the last election were Blue Dog Democrats.

Conservative values are stronger than ever in American and will continue to be so. You can put any label on these democrats, but when you strip away the title they're just as conservative as a moderate Republican.

Liberals will slowly but surely continue to lose their power because America is becoming a conservative nation.

[imgonnaeaturlunch]

Why do people think America is going to move to the left in the next election? Right now there's 44 Blue Dog Democrats...Conservative, religious driven politicians, that appear to be Democrats in Name Only. 9 Seats picked up in the last election were Blue Dog Democrats.

Conservative values are stronger than ever in American and will continue to be so. You can put any label on these democrats, but when you strip away the title they're just as conservative as a moderate Republican.

Liberals will slowly but surely continue to lose their power because America is becoming a conservative nation.
Look at the democratic presidential candidates, much more representitive of the U S: women, african-americans, hispanic-americans & caucasians. Look at the GOP. Same old tired song & dance. They even all dress alike in that boring GOP uniform: white shirt, red tie, dark suit. That says alot about the GOP's creativity or lack thereof. Get ready for a long run of democratic presidents. Bush is the new Hoover. After Hoover, Democrats occupied the presidency for 24 of the next 32 years. The GOP has occupied the presidency, since, for 28 of the next 44 years & that's due in large part to the murders of MLK, JFK & RFK. Your luck has run out. Caucasians will be the minority in 40 years, then what are you going to do.

[AJ]

America is moving towards conservatism. That's a fact, want proof? even with the bad timing of the war and Foley news in the last election the Dems only gained a very small majority. When this war is won by the Republicans it will usher in a new era in american politics

[RawAlex]

The truth is that "liberalism" moves more to the middle as the conservatives become much more conservative. The republican party has all but abandoned the middle ground, and have moved to be a much more "church and state" party.

While the move to suck up to the hardcore Christian conservatives pays off in the short run, it tends to leave many people feeling left out, and they move over to the other side.

The democratic party right now is one of those "big umbrella" organizations that cover everything from neo-socialists to soft Christians. This is the type of situation that should allow the democrats to breeze into the Whitehouse next time around, and likely control all three parts of the government equation.

[TheRightWing]

Look at the democratic presidential candidates, much more representitive of the U S: women, african-americans, hispanic-americans & caucasians. Look at the GOP. Same old tired song & dance. They even all dress alike in that boring GOP uniform: white shirt, red tie, dark suit. That says alot about the GOP's creativity or lack thereof. Get ready for a long run of democratic presidents. Bush is the new Hoover. After Hoover, Democrats occupied the presidency for 24 of the next 32 years. The GOP has occupied the presidency, since, for 28 of the next 44 years & that's due in large part to the murders of MLK, JFK & RFK. Your luck has run out. Caucasians will be the minority in 40 years, then what are you going to do.

Let's look at the Democrats. Call a Democrat a Liberal and they'll nearly die trying to prove otherwise. Hillary Clinton, who supported every liberal cause when she was young, is doing her best impression of a moderate now...even siding with the GOP on a lot of issues.

The '06 elections the Democrats only picked up seats by putting Republicans up that called themselves Democrats. Conservatism is alive and well in America and gets stronger by the day.

I'm not even going to bother responding to your kool-aide moment of MLK, JFK, & RFK.

As for minorities, you'll see that each day as liberalism destroys the moral fiber of the country that minorities, many of whom have traditional christian values, will find a home with the Republican party.

[TheRightWing]

The democratic party right now is one of those "big umbrella" organizations that cover everything from neo-socialists to soft Christians. This is the type of situation that should allow the democrats to breeze into the Whitehouse next time around, and likely control all three parts of the government equation.

The candidates for Presidency are mostly liberals and won't win in '08.

Hillary - Pretending to be Moderate
Edwards - Extremely Liberal Voting Record
Obama - not enough experience to give an effective speech. He uses hallmark greeting card style speeches to say a lot of nothing.
Biden - Call him a liberal and watch him scream.

Liberals have to fake conservative values to get elected. Too bad on a national scale they'll never win.

[Mr. Blue]

The democratic party right now is one of those "big umbrella" organizations that cover everything from neo-socialists to soft Christians. This is the type of situation that should allow the democrats to breeze into the Whitehouse next time around, and likely control all three parts of the government equation.

I actually see a possibility of a third party being created from this. The right goes too far right, the left goes too left, and we get a third party, centrist in nature, that actually might be able to get something done.

[imgonnaeaturlunch]

The candidates for Presidency are mostly liberals and won't win in '08.

Hillary - Pretending to be Moderate
Edwards - Extremely Liberal Voting Record
Obama - not enough experience to give an effective speech. He uses hallmark greeting card style speeches to say a lot of nothing.
Biden - Call him a liberal and watch him scream.

Liberals have to fake conservative values to get elected. Too bad on a national scale they'll never win.
You"re so gung ho on conservatism. Let's look at the last 2 presidential elections, both stolen by the GOP. '00: Bush's brother cheating ways( not counting african-american votes or labeling law abiding african-americans felons so they couldn't vote) won him the election. In '04: the election was settled in Ohio where Bush's campaign manager for the state was the attorney general of Ohio who also oversaw the voting, another stolen elecetion. But you Cheney wannabes refer to both elections as landslides. Again, get your head out of the sand.

[TheRightWing]

'00 was an electoral college issue. Boohoo, cry some more.
'04 was a clear victory for Bush because no one wanted that whining Liberal Kerry.

'08...look for it another Republican to win.

Another thing, why don't you discuss '06? Why not discuss the Blue Dog Democrats? Why? Because you can't. Conservatism is stronger then every and will continue to grow in strength. Bush won in '00 and '04 because of his conservative values not despite of them.

[imgonnaeaturlunch]

'00 was an electoral college issue. Boohoo, cry some more.
'04 was a clear victory for Bush because no one wanted that whining Liberal Kerry.

'08...look for it another Republican to win.

Another thing, why don't you discuss '06? Why not discuss the Blue Dog Democrats? Why? Because you can't. Conservatism is stronger then every and will continue to grow in strength. Bush won in '00 and '04 because of his conservative values not despite of them.
Why don't you defend these consrvatives you people promote as the 2nd coming; Awnold: pro-choice, Rudy; pro-choice, Spector: ( Bush personally campaigned for him in his last election) pro-choice. Then of course there's the 3 marriages or more club: Mush Windbag, Rudy, Nuetered Newt.

[TheRightWing]

Why don't you defend these consrvatives you people promote as the 2nd coming; Awnold: pro-choice, Rudy; pro-choice, Spector: ( Bush personally campaigned for him in his last election) pro-choice. Then of course there's the 3 marriages or more club: Mush Windbag, Rudy, Nuetered Newt.

Rudy won't win the nomination and you'll most likely see Romney winning the nomination and the national election, unless another conservative throws his hat into the arena...it's still early.

[Mr. Blue]

Why don't you defend these consrvatives you people promote as the 2nd coming; Awnold: pro-choice, Rudy; pro-choice, Spector: ( Bush personally campaigned for him in his last election) pro-choice. Then of course there's the 3 marriages or more club: Mush Windbag, Rudy, Nuetered Newt.

Republicans don't practice what they preach, they just want to make sure everyone else practices what they preach :D

[TheRightWing]

Republicans don't practice what they preach, they just want to make sure everyone else practices what they preach :D

A blanket statement made about a few politicians makes all Republicans hypocrites? You liberals thrive on generalizations and fail on facts.

[Mr. Blue]

First I'm not a liberal, I'm not even a Democrat, and I just enjoy pissing off people that are so blinded by political affiliation that all they can do is regurgitate information like a trained monkey.

So, why is it that Republicans automatically assume everyone is a liberal democrat just because they disagree? Don't worry, Democrats do the same, and it's that type of nonsensical loyalty to your party and hatred towards the other that's ruining America.

[Linkster]

Blue - doesnt work - Ive tried many times as Im not a dem or a liberal either - after 12 years of service in the military I came out with a little different view of the world - but it seems that both sides like to label as thats the easiest cop-out they can come up with - fortunately at least we can have a view that doesnt coincide with either side :)

[Mr. Blue]

lol Linkster...I've been out of the political brainwashing of both parties so long that I find it hard to deal with diehard Reps or Dems because it becomes tedious.

I do have fun annoying people that are fanatics of their party...doesn't matter if they're dems or reps. There's also that perfect look on their face when you tell them you're not affiliated with either party. They get that dazed look as they try to figure out how to insult you instead of dealing with you on an issue.

[imgonnaeaturlunch]

Rudy won't win the nomination and you'll most likely see Romney winning the nomination and the national election, unless another conservative throws his hat into the arena...it's still early.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you didn't defend did you. Typical. Hey, can you see the forset through the trees? Jesus Christ could run as a repulsive & wouldn't win freind.

[imgonnaeaturlunch]

A blanket statement made about a few politicians makes all Republicans hypocrites? You liberals thrive on generalizations and fail on facts.
I have a feeling you were raised on listening to Mush Windbag. Your mother probably sat you down by the the radio when you were a baby & brainwashed you. You come off just like the 3 time loser hypocrite.

[TheRightWing]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you didn't defend did you. Typical. Hey, can you see the forset through the trees? Jesus Christ could run as a repulsive & wouldn't win freind.

Why should I defend? I don't automatically approve of a Republican just because they're a Republican. My ideal candidate for President would be fiscally conservative, wanting a smaller government, tough on crime, limit the size of entitlements, and conservative on social issues like abortion. That's my ideal candidate and I think Romney or one of the other possible Republican meets those requirements.

If however the party picks someone like Rudy, Newt, etc, and they still hit important issues like being fiscally conservative, etc...I'll still vote for them. Not my ideal candidate, but still better than any of the democrats that are being offered up.

[dragonfly5]

Rudy won't win the nomination and you'll most likely see Romney winning the nomination and the national election, unless another conservative throws his hat into the arena...it's still early.

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What a bunch of shit!!! Romney winning the republican nomination!

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As a LIBERAL democrat, I hope you are correct, it will make the landslide for the Democrats even larger!

[TheRightWing]

As a LIBERAL democrat

Wow, you actually admitted it. Now if you could only get your liberal Presidential Candidates to admit it that would be something. However, they won't admit it because that's the kiss of death for their chances at getting elected. Why? Because liberalism is dead in America.

[Linkster]

Thats an interesting conclusion on liberalism - I was of the impression that over 50% of the country still labels themselves liberal - although I have yet to see many mainstream cable news programs promoting it as they are pretty much stuck in their corporate spin factory run by the conservative news conglomorates

[TheRightWing]

Thats an interesting conclusion on liberalism - I was of the impression that over 50% of the country still labels themselves liberal - although I have yet to see many mainstream cable news programs promoting it as they are pretty much stuck in their corporate spin factory run by the conservative news conglomorates

So why do liberals like Hillary Clinton shun her liberal roots to get elected? If there's nothing wrong with liberalism, why hide it? Why get offended when liberal gets used as a term for them?

Call a Conservative a Conservative and he wears it like a badge of honor. Call a liberal a liberal and they shun it...well, at least most do...I suppose Ted Kennedy would always be proud to be a Liberal, but then again his brain is too pickled to care much about what people call him.

Why is it that Blue Dog Democrats are making inroads? America is becoming more conservative, not less, and I think you'll see that in the '08 elections.

[Linkster]

I dont think I would have ever labelled Clinton a liberal - shes way too middle of the road trying to please everyone

I dont hink that you will see the US citizens support anyone that associates themselves with the GOP right now - which is why you see a huge group of Republicans dissassociating themselves from the party line and the president right now - they wont get reelected and they know it if they try to sound "conservative" - Americans are looking too hard for a change and theyve had enough of both politicians in general and those that label themselves in any manner
Youll always have the die-hard true conservatives which right now runs about 25%, and the die-hard "liberals" that also run about the same amount - other than that I would have to say a person running on a Middle-class agenda (which has nothing to do with religion, terror or war) would get an easy election - but so far no one has shown up

I'd have to say the only one I can see out there that might announce next year would be Gore - he could probably sweep it with no problems but would have to endure a bunch of wimpering from the hard core fanatical Republicans - and would probably do ok with around the other 80 or so %

[TheRightWing]

I dont think I would have ever labelled Clinton a liberal - shes way too middle of the road trying to please everyone

If you look at her early activities, she's a liberal, plain and simple. What she's done to get elected is play the moderate role like Bubba did, but in the end she's still a liberal that's playing the moderate role for votes.

I dont hink that you will see the US citizens support anyone that associates themselves with the GOP right now - which is why you see a huge group of Republicans dissassociating themselves from the party line and the president right now

Disassociate from the President maybe, but not the GOP. The GOP is just waiting to see which candidate stands out, but once the machine is behind that Candidate you'll see another win in '08

I'd have to say the only one I can see out there that might announce next year would be Gore - he could probably sweep it with no problems but would have to endure a bunch of wimpering from the hard core fanatical Republicans - and would probably do ok with around the other 80 or so %

There's a few people from both parties waiting to announce. It's a good strategy in my opinion. A long campaign season will hurt some politicians...a fresh face at the right moment could do wonders for either party. Gore though is not the answer for the Democrats. He can't even turn on some lights in his house without people jumping on him.