Obama Over in Russia... Sucking Up to KKKomrades

[SeniorChief]

He seems very at-easy with these tyrants, doesn't he?

He looks like he's comfortable, got that "right at home" look to him.

[Zebulon0351]

He seems very at-easy with these tyrants, doesn't he?

He looks like he's comfortable, got that "right at home" look to him.

Maybe he should just put Russia on the Axis of Evil. That'll teach 'em.

[SeniorChief]

Maybe he should just put Russia on the Axis of Evil. That'll teach 'em.

Maybe he should deal with North Korea's missile situation vs. Russia's, as well as the captured U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, the economy, etc.

Putin I am certain, you know - the guy who holds Medeved's strings, I am sure views Obama as a weakling. This is merely a PR stunt for Obama. The Russians aren't going to conform to shit. They never have, never will.

[Zebulon0351]

Maybe he should deal with North Korea's missile situation vs. Russia's, as well as the captured U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, the economy, etc.

Putin I am certain, you know - the guy who holds Medeved's strings, I am sure views Obama as a weakling. This is merely a PR stunt for Obama. The Russians aren't going to conform to shit. They never have, never will.

Wow.. if Dubya had gone after North Korea and Iran instead of prancing into Iraq because of his daddy issues maybe we wouldn't have to worry about mending torn relations from the past six years.

[SeniorChief]

Wow.. if Dubya had gone after North Korea and Iran instead of prancing into Iraq because of his daddy issues maybe we wouldn't have to worry about mending torn relations from the past six years.

Bush had the same intel Clinton did when Clinton invaded.

Need a link?

How about a few quotes from people on your side of the isle regarding WMDs in Iraq?

Happy to provide.

[mwillman]

I dont recall you complaining when Bush looked into putins eyes and found a soul mate.

[Zebulon0351]

Bush had the same intel Clinton did when Clinton invaded.

Need a link?

How about a few quotes from people on your side of the isle regarding WMDs in Iraq?

Happy to provide.

Well going with that same intel, why didn't we go after the man who we knew had a nuclear program and had threatened to actually use his weapons?

[SeniorChief]

Well going with that same intel, why didn't we go after the man who we knew had a nuclear program and had threatened to actually use his weapons?

He's on the list.

[Zebulon0351]

He's on the list.

He should have been first in line. But we decided to go after someone who we thought might have WMDs.
Iran: Known fact.
Iraq: Intel.

And looking back now, who was more of a threat? Saddam Hussein kept everybody in the Middle East in check with his bluff about WMD's. So we run on in there, find nothing, kill thousands of people, we lose thousands of brave men and women, and now Iran has has Iraq in the sites.

Great job.

[SeniorChief]

Iran: Known fact.
Iraq: Intel.





Known fact what? That they know how to make centrifuges? What's the threat in Iran?

Why not cite a country like North Korea that actually has a nuke.

We have the intel and the facts.

Let's invade, using your logic.

Oh wait - you probably want to talk to them first, right?

[hdmarketing]

He seems very at-easy with these tyrants, doesn't he?

He looks like he's comfortable, got that "right at home" look to him.

I wonder if they will be having any watermellon:confused:

[GetAClue]

He should have been first in line. But we decided to go after someone who we thought might have WMDs.
Iran: Known fact.
Iraq: Intel.

And looking back now, who was more of a threat? Saddam Hussein kept everybody in the Middle East in check with his bluff about WMD's. So we run on in there, find nothing, kill thousands of people, we lose thousands of brave men and women, and now Iran has has Iraq in the sites.

Great job.
That's the great part of second guessing. You can always look back and see what we should have done. However, the reality WAS that at the time, everyone was in agreement that we should be going into Iraq. Remember the 17 UN resolutions that Iraq was ignoring? How about all of the political grandstanding done by members of congress on both sides of the isle?

Yea, it's easy to sit here 7 years later and say we should of have done this or not done that, but unfortunately for your argument, Bush and others did not have the luxury of knowing then what we know now.

[Bill Cosby]

I wonder if they will be having any watermellon:confused:

What does it matter to you??? http://johnprz.com/resources/_wsb_139x230_watermelon+head.jpg

You should try & stay on topic & off the petty racist innuendo........... You just might get a lot more than you bargained for.......... :thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

That's the great part of second guessing. You can always look back and see what we should have done. However, the reality WAS that at the time, everyone was in agreement that we should be going into Iraq. Remember the 17 UN resolutions that Iraq was ignoring? How about all of the political grandstanding done by members of congress on both sides of the isle?

Yea, it's easy to sit here 7 years later and say we should of have done this or not done that, but unfortunately for your argument, Bush and others did not have the luxury of knowing then what we know now.

Yes & it was not accident................ dick & bush worked around the clock to sell this & the media whores helped them every chance they could...........

Not going in was never an option........ Not one of the main stream media had on anyone advocating anything but war------ war-war.........

Paid "experts" to lie up the threats..................

http://web.ead.anl.gov/uranium/guide/prodhand/images/DUF6PH9.jpg

[Smurf-Herder]

I wonder if they will be having any watermellon:confused:

Don't go there ............................

[Zebulon0351]

That's the great part of second guessing. You can always look back and see what we should have done. However, the reality WAS that at the time, everyone was in agreement that we should be going into Iraq. Remember the 17 UN resolutions that Iraq was ignoring? How about all of the political grandstanding done by members of congress on both sides of the isle?

Yea, it's easy to sit here 7 years later and say we should of have done this or not done that, but unfortunately for your argument, Bush and others did not have the luxury of knowing then what we know now.

In terms of the War on Terror, Saddam Hussein did not have a dog in the fight. I can name three countries off the top of my head who posed a greater threat in terms of terrorism than Iraq ever did. Senior Chief is right about North Korea if you just want to go the WMD's route. But in terms of terrorism, we were already going after the fucksticks who attacked us on 9/11. But why not move forces into Pakistan which is where Bin Laden was supposedly hiding? Why not move into Saudi Arabia which is where the majority of the hijackers came from?

I just see it being too convenient that Dubya decided to push into Iraq at the time he did.

My unit crossed the border the first day of the invasion and on the second day of the push north, while we were riding around in full MOPP Gear (chemical protection suits for you civilians,) we passed by a squad minus of Navy Seals kicking back on their truck wearing Khaki Pants and combat vests. Not one piece of NBC protective gear in sight. Kinda told us that they knew something that we didn't.

Now, lets just say for shits and giggles that the invasion was totally legit: The procedures carried forth in "freeing" the Iraqi people from the evil tyrant was a strategic failure. Us disbanding the Iraqi Army did nothing but put a bunch of people who know how to shoot guns and make things go boom out of a job. We took a Sunni controlled country and placed Shia's in their place with very little Sunni influence within the government. Did he expect everyone to be ok with that? Without a job? Without a stable income? Without means to put food on their family's table?

Don't get me wrong. I am very proud of my service in Iraq, I just hope that from an individual viewpoint, I did more good for the people in Iraq than bad. And I pray that Iraq will become a stable country one day. (My investment in 1million of the new Iraqi Dinars depends on it) :D

[disrupter]

The chickenshit right can only be bullies against those who are defenseless like Afghanistan & Iraq.

Standing up to North Korea would take actual ability & demand some spine, rather than just empty inflammatory rhetoric.

The chickenshit right didn't even have the cajones to talk straight with the American people & tell them why we needed to invade & the cost it would be to them.
Of course since the chickenshit right can't even be honest & rational inside their own empty skulls it is impossible to be honest to/with others.

The chickenshit right is the very definition of spineless phonies.

When their reckless banking fantasies collapse they come running back to taxpayers to bail them out.

Socialism for the rich, capitalist slavery for the poor.

[Zebulon0351]

Afghanistan wasn't and isn't a bullshit war.
Ill agree with you on Iraq though

[GetAClue]

In terms of the War on Terror, Saddam Hussein did not have a dog in the fight. I can name three countries off the top of my head who posed a greater threat in terms of terrorism than Iraq ever did. Senior Chief is right about North Korea if you just want to go the WMD's route. But in terms of terrorism, we were already going after the fucksticks who attacked us on 9/11. But why not move forces into Pakistan which is where Bin Laden was supposedly hiding? Why not move into Saudi Arabia which is where the majority of the hijackers came from?

I just see it being too convenient that Dubya decided to push into Iraq at the time he did.

My unit crossed the border the first day of the invasion and on the second day of the push north, while we were riding around in full MOPP Gear (chemical protection suits for you civilians,) we passed by a squad minus of Navy Seals kicking back on their truck wearing Khaki Pants and combat vests. Not one piece of NBC protective gear in sight. Kinda told us that they knew something that we didn't.

Now, lets just say for shits and giggles that the invasion was totally legit: The procedures carried forth in "freeing" the Iraqi people from the evil tyrant was a strategic failure. Us disbanding the Iraqi Army did nothing but put a bunch of people who know how to shoot guns and make things go boom out of a job. We took a Sunni controlled country and placed Shia's in their place with very little Sunni influence within the government. Did he expect everyone to be ok with that? Without a job? Without a stable income? Without means to put food on their family's table?

Don't get me wrong. I am very proud of my service in Iraq, I just hope that from an individual viewpoint, I did more good for the people in Iraq than bad. And I pray that Iraq will become a stable country one day. (My investment in 1million of the new Iraqi Dinars depends on it) :D
I am not disagreeing with you in that regard. However, you and many others are looking at things thru the prism of time that was not available to those making those decisions at the start of the war. You and everyone else have the luxury of saying how Bush lied and fabricated and on and on, but before the war there were a number of prominent democrats with the same intel that Bush had that were in favor of the war. To lambaste Bush over this decision some 6 years later while refraining from spreading the blame to those on the other side of the isle is disingenuous.

[Binky]

Wow.. if Dubya had gone after North Korea and Iran instead of prancing into Iraq because of his daddy issues maybe we wouldn't have to worry about mending torn relations from the past six years.


BINGO! That's the reason we went in. Da Da issues.

[Binky]

Don't go there ............................



:lmao2: :lmao2: yep. not good waters to wade thru. :D

[Bill Cosby]

I am not disagreeing with you in that regard. However, you and many others are looking at things thru the prism of time that was not available to those making those decisions at the start of the war. You and everyone else have the luxury of saying how Bush lied and fabricated and on and on, but before the war there were a number of prominent democrats with the same intel that Bush had that were in favor of the war. To lambaste Bush over this decision some 6 years later while refraining from spreading the blame to those on the other side of the isle is disingenuous.


I am not disagreeing with you in that regard. However, you and many others are looking at things thru the prism of time that was not available to those making those decisions at the start of the war You and everyone else have the luxury of saying how Bush lied and fabricated


Wrong good sir............. He did lie. They did make shit up~ yellow cake as only one example....

Your strawman works fine for "accidents", it fails miserably when there is deliberate intent to deceive..

prominent democrats with the same intel

So if dick & bush had doctored facts & they presented them to the dems???

I am not saying the the dems should get a free ride here but but that administration did a full scale assault & many of them, like the public was deceived...