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stefan segal
05-08-2007, 01:52 PM
Dr. Bussard, former atomic energy assistant director and much more in this 93 minute video.
Dr. Bussard has been working on cold (D T ) fusion for 17 years under the auspices of the DOD/Navy. Since his first workable prototype, he was silenced by the government...this condition has lasted for 11 years, but the Dr. is now sharing his 16,000 pages of documents with the nations of the world, as he can no longer obtain funding for an energy source that would put big oil and allother fosile fuels our of business, while supplying poor nations with ultra low cost desalination, cheap anerobic ethanol production and upset too many markets and industries to list.
It is more than just facinating...he has the documented proof of his success and freely (he hold the patents ) shares the information with anyone.
That the US is going to allow this to slip their grasp, and force us to either purchase the devices from whoever develops them or play our usual short-sighted catch-up game...all in the name of oil profits...is typical behavior of the asshole running our show. But watch the lecture and slides...I think it will blow your mind:)
Stefan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1996321846673788606
Stefan, I have more confidence in the scientific method than most people. If this guy has discovered anything real, peer review and experiment replication will uncover it.
But, I find it hard to believe that if he has found something real, no reputable scientific journal would publish it. It's the opposite, journals would be fighting to be the first to publish about it.
Posting a video to google, appealing to popular belief and support, suggests that whatever he's got isn't replicable.
I wonder if he's related to the fellow who invented the idea for the Bussard drive?
stefan segal
05-08-2007, 04:24 PM
Bill...did you watch and listen to his lecture?
I think if you did, you might be less trusting of our corporate news, our learned experts in the field....of which there are none under 65, as Tesla went out with the micro chip and none but the old folks have knowlege of this field, and more interested in the man's results and the data gleaned over 17 years of being paid by our government for a free hand to pursue his discoveries...plus the patents he holds on the process.
I was suspicious of him and had him mixed up with that beardsly (?) or whatever who also salams to Tesla's genius everyday at sundown...but a different guy entirely. So I reluctantly began to watch...but became convinced without reservation after reaching the end of the video lecture.
His findings are and were replicated and documented many times, but if you watch the presentation, you will come to understand that although he was funded by the DOD, the money had to slip under the notice of politicians, otherwise the DOE would become aware of it, comandere the project and bury it...as a consequence to this, his 50 million funding grant was dribbled out to him, and never large enough to supply the voltages/amps to make a running model. What they did instead, was to build small prototypes fired by a huge capacitor bank in lightning style jolts...nit enough to produce sustainable outputs, but enough to measure and design improvements...it's all in the flick.
Stefan
It is the same Bussard who invented the concept of the Bussard interstellar ramjet.
But, a google search for Robert Bussard shows no entries in the first 100 results about his fusion (Polywell) ideas for any of the better known public science magazines - nothing from scientific american or new scientist or even discovery.
I watched the first 10 minutes - it was breathless and impenetrable, and I'm a person who is very top percentile of scientific interest and knowledge, for a layman and a generalist. Is there some particular minute where you think he says something that isn't gobbledegook?
If there was or is any substance to it, someone will build a test device, and that will be worth looking at. Articles about it will fill the pages of every science magazine on the planet, and since I read hundreds of science articles a month, I'm sure I'll notice it.
This looked to be potentially the most authoritative article in the first 100 google results for Robert Bussard.
http://www.science.edu/TechoftheYear/TechoftheYear.htm
I hope it works. It'll be big news if it does.
stefan segal
05-09-2007, 01:08 AM
Bill, it does appear to work, as the limited experimental data confirms the math, the equations which describe a continuous radiation-free cold fusion with considerable output. :)
I have faith in the invention, but I also know the energy conglomerates will do everything to fund it's engineering in scaled-up form, then having bought control of the process, will bury it for fifty years while they suck out the available cash from the peasant classes in return for thier sucking out the last of the world's oil.
Whenever there is a shifting of ecconomic power, those that already have wealth grow murderous.
Stefan
Linkster
05-09-2007, 07:51 AM
First off - he isnt the inventor of this - its been around since the 1950s - basically his thinking is that he can build one small enough to produce propulsion for a submarine (which is why his funding comes from the US Navy) - many Universities are working on these types of devices and there are many being funded by the private sector (one that comes to mind is a similar device being looked at by Chryslers' military division right now)
The problem right now is that the collection of the output is evading everyone - while this guy thinks he has a way to do it, his last experiments showed that the collection apparatus still has flaws.
It is touted as being the answer to clean cheap electricity, but as history has proven, you arent going to get support from the general public for it unless you can somehow get the terms nuclear and radiation out of the conversation - which is holding back most research money from congressional sources etc
Mr. Blue
05-09-2007, 09:14 AM
It is touted as being the answer to clean cheap electricity, but as history has proven, you arent going to get support from the general public for it unless you can somehow get the terms nuclear and radiation out of the conversation - which is holding back most research money from congressional sources etc
Just adding a caveat that not all countries fear the words "nuclear/radiation"...just look at France, most of their electricity comes from nuclear plants.
Americans though, they're a different story altogether, as we're becoming a nation that fears everything and enjoys arguing ourselves to a standstill.
stefan segal
05-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Linkster, if you watched the film, you would have heard him tick off all the names in his related field.
He goes on to state (quite clearly), that all those others are working with a system called 'grids', which Bussard claims is a failed and impossible mathematically system in which his patented system has no utility for such a grid system.
He also states his feed stock to carry on fusion is unique in the field...I would assume that is also a patented method.
That the man states that he will supply 16.000 documents and history of his process to any country who will: One...engineer and produce it, and two: that they will share it with the world...that he would be more than satisfied with his royalties.
Since patents are issued only for origional work, and in this case, a patent with billions in royalities... the inference being the desire to end-run these royalities would be primary in invester thinking...inferring the patent must be too comprehensive...too central to the process to avoid payment.
I believe this belies your statement that his process is dusty with history.
The fact is that all these experimenters are feeding from the same seed stock...that of Tesla's notes and claims, would tend to give the work a homogenus appearance...but Bussard's work is origional with Bussard.
Stefan
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