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Life_Long_Dem!
06-22-2009, 02:14 PM
White House & Mainstream Media Don't Seem to Care


A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Co-Editor of ThePoliticalCarnival.blogspot.com

Major Barry Wingard is an attorney who represents an innocent Kuwaiti detainee named Fayiz al-Kandari. Fayiz has been in imprisoned -- and abused -- for 7 ½ years. In Fayiz's opinion, and I trust him over most who have never been a guest at Hotel Gitmo, conditions there are worse than they were before. To add salt to his many wounds, Fayiz is still waiting for his day in court.

How in the world did a nice, well-to-do, well-educated guy such as Fayiz end up in Gitmo? He was in Afghanistan doing charity work. He gave, they took... his freedom. 95% of the prisoners captured in Afghanistan were not captured by American forces. Fayiz was swept up and sold to our guys by bounty hunters. He had always considered America an ally, but he was in for a rude awakening.

The Guantanamo Bay Resort is not the swanky new digs it's been cracked up to be. After President Obama was elected, the perception was that Gitmo would be closed, and things would improve. But Barry feels that the opposite has happened. How bad is it? This bad:

Attorney-client privilege is now a thing of the past. His client's letters have been opened, which, believe it or not, didn't happen under the Bush Administration. No, I'm not kidding.

As for "harsh interrogations," it's not as horrific as it was a few years ago, but the, er, "give-and-take" between guards and inmates is ongoing. And by give-and-take I mean that the violence continues. Since Obama has been in office, this happens more than ever. Again, no, I'm not kidding... or should I say, Fayiz and Barry aren't.

Barry Wingard, who has extensive experience as a prosecutor and an investigator and is now a defense attorney, has seen the worst of the worst when it comes to bad guys. And after all that exposure to all those clients and their stories, he is 100% convinced that his client is innocent. He tells me that the so-called evidence against Fayiz consists of layers of hearsay, "gossip" if you will. The allegations have (d)evolved:

Fayiz has been accused by other detainees of being a "Super Al Qaeda Operative"... whatever that means. Did I mention that there is no evidence to back that up? The allegations get more ridiculous. One of my favorites is his supposedly creating tens of thousands of video and audio tapes. When Barry asked for even one, the government said, in so many words, "We'll try to find ya some and we'll bring 'em to ya," doing their best Sarah Palin impression. In addition, A told B through C that Fayiz was also at some training camp or other. This is like Telephone Hour on crack.

So, you may be wondering, what are the accommodations at the Gitmo Resort like? As Ana Marie Cox asked in her Air America interview (listen here), "Do the prisoners frolic on the sand?" It is beachfront property, after all. Location, location, location! The answer: No. Fayiz is still in solitary confinement. No prime rib dinners yet, no after-dinner handy Wet Wipes, no pillow mints, no nothin'.

The good news? Fayiz and Barry have a wonderful relationship. It started off a little rocky, Barry explains, but there is a mutual trust. It took time, but it has evolved into something kind of sweet.

The bad news? Under Barack Obama, not only have things changed very little, but in some ways they have worsened. The prisoners get redacted newspapers, and they get one phone call... per year. Fayiz tells Barry that when the 2008 election took place, there was real hope for real justice. But so far, no real change. Real disappointing.

However, despite having his hopes crushed, Fayiz is resilient. He holds no hard feelings, amazingly. He is strong, he works out every day, and he even teaches others to read at Hotel Gitmo... an unselfish effort which, astoundingly, could be used against him, because that proves his Super Al Qaedatude.

As of now, we have an untried, untested system of justice for these detainees. But since federal district court hasn't been an option, a "new and improved" military commission is what Fayiz faces, assuming he ever gets there. And if he does, well...

Evidence is being withheld, in Barry's opinion, because it might cause the U.S. a steaming mug full of embarrassment when all the sadistic details are revealed. Which begs the question, what's missing here? Let's all say it together: Transparency.

Please go here to read everything I've written on this subject, see any video, hear or link to any audio to date. As more is posted, that link will update automatically. Major Wingard's story is remarkable, his client Fayiz is no Super Al Qaeda, but he is nearly superhuman. Let's do what we can to get him out of that hell hole and back home where he belongs.

http://blog.buzzflash.com/contributors/2000

radioguy
06-22-2009, 02:30 PM
It's not that the media doesn't seem to care, it's a question of credibility. This blog story is based on a military attorney speaking on behalf of his client. He's doing his job, which is to do and say whatever he can to get his client released.

Him being in the military doesn't make him any different than any other lawyer. I mean, do you really think that all the lawyers of OJ's dream team that publicly protested his innocence during the trial, actually believed he was innocent?


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Life_Long_Dem!
06-22-2009, 02:40 PM
I have read multiple books on gitmo and seen many a story online from the prospective of the detainee and they account how MANY were falsely brought to us by drug lords for the bountys we offered, how a 60+ year old crippled man that could barely walk was accussed of being a terrorist and made to suffer daily humiliation. so all these accounts coming from inside are false? I very highly doubt that one.

SeniorChief
06-22-2009, 02:48 PM
I have read multiple books on gitmo....

Name three.

radioguy
06-22-2009, 02:57 PM
I have read multiple books on gitmo and seen many a story online from the prospective of the detainee and they account how MANY were falsely brought to us by drug lords for the bountys we offered, how a 60+ year old crippled man that could barely walk was accussed of being a terrorist and made to suffer daily humiliation. so all these accounts coming from inside are false? I very highly doubt that one.

The key there is "the prospective of the detainee"... Would you expect any other opinion from them? They play to the liberal left and anti-war crowd in the US to advance their cause, which is "America sucks" and "get me out of here".

I truly believe that there were many people detained that were likely innocent, but there is no way that can be prevented. We don't have the ability in a war zone to do any type of efficient investigating, and we can't rely on the words of the local people based on the fact we are the invaders.

I understand that being detained during a war wouldn't be a very pleasant existence for anyone, but it's not supposed to be a country club atmosphere.

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Life_Long_Dem!
06-22-2009, 03:01 PM
"It's easy to mistreat something called No. 1154," Khan writes. "It's easy to shave its beard, to kick it around like an object, to spit on it, torture it, or make it cry ... It's harder to hate No. 1154 when you realize that he's more like you than he is different."

Excerpt: 'My Guantanamo Diary'
by Mahvish Rukhsana Khan





The prisoner was standing at the far end of the room behind a long table. His leg was chained to the floor beside a seven-by eight-foot cage. He looked wary as the door opened, but as our eyes met and he saw me in my traditional embroidered shawl, a smile broke across his weathered features. I smiled back and gave him the universal Islamic greeting:

"As-salaam alaikum — May peace be upon you."

"Walaikum as-salaam — May peace also be upon you," he responded.

With that, I shook hands with my first "terrorist."

He was a handsome, soft-spoken man with a short, neatly groomed beard. His once-dark hair was heavily flecked with gray. He was dressed in an oversized white prison uniform. I thought he looked much older than his forty-six years — closer to sixty or seventy.

…

His name was Ali Shah Mousovi. He was a pediatrician and the son of a prominent Afghan family from the city of Gardez, where he'd been arrested by U.S. troops more than three years earlier. He had returned to Afghanistan in August 2003 after twelve years of exile in Iran, he told us, to help rebuild his wathan, his homeland.

…

There was a ceiling camera in the cage to the right of our table, into which Mousovi was put before and after our meetings and at lunchtime. We'd been told that the camera was there for our protection. I wondered what could happen to us in a room with a prisoner who was shackled to the floor.

Attorney-client meetings at Guantanamo are supposed to be privileged and confidential, and the base captain had told us that morning that because the camera was located inside the cage, it couldn't pick up images of the legal papers laid on the table. He also told us that the camera wasn't recording us and didn't have audio, so we shouldn't worry about the military listening in on our conversations. I wondered about that.

…

As I translated from Pashto, Mousovi hesitantly described his life since his arrest. He had gone back to Gardez in August 2003 and remembered the small crowd of well-wishers who came out to greet his car as it jostled down the rocky mountain road into town. Sixty or eighty people, maybe more, rushed to meet him. They threw their arms around him, grateful for the return of professionals to Afghanistan.

In the coming days, he, his brother Ismail, and his cousin Reza, who were also physicians, planned to open their clinic. Once it was up and running, the men would fetch their families from Iran. Instead, on his second night in Gardez, American soldiers broke down the door to Mousovi's family guesthouse and took him away. He was accused of associating with the Taliban and of funneling money to anticoalition insurgents.

After his arrest, he spent twenty-two days in a makeshift outdoor jail in Gardez under constant interrogation and without the opportunity to shower or bathe. Then, he had been transported by helicopter to Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan. There, he was thrown into a tiny three-and-a-half-by-seven foot shed—face down, blindfolded, hooded, and gagged. Lying like this, he said, he was kicked in the head repeatedly.

At some point, his jailers cut the clothes off his body, and he squirmed, trying to cover himself. "This is American soil," he was told. "This is not your soil. You will obey us." He had become a stranger in his own land: the soil had changed beneath his feet. Twenty miles from Kabul, he was apparently no longer in Afghanistan.

Obeying, he had quickly learned, meant not resisting.

He described how he was beaten regularly by Americans in civilian clothing. More painful than the bruises and wounds that covered his body were the unbroken days and nights without sleep. Tape recordings of screeching sirens blared through the speakers that soldiers placed by his ears. His head throbbed. Whenever he managed, mercifully, to doze off, he'd be startled awake by wooden clubs striking loud blows against the wall. He recalled the sting as he was repeatedly doused with ice water. He said he was not allowed to sit down for two weeks straight. At some point his legs felt like wet noodles; when they gave out, he was beaten and forced to stand back up. He couldn't remember how many times this happened.

In rotating shifts, U.S. soldiers periodically kicked and beat him and the other prisoners. Some yelled things about September 11. Others spat on him. Many cursed his mother, sisters, and other family members. They cursed his nationality and religion. He wanted to stand up for his loved ones and for himself as the young soldiers swore obscenities at him, but he could only groan as the hard boots slammed into his throbbing head.

"Many of the Afghans did not understand the terrible things they were saying," he told us, "but I understood." He used to understand English well, he said, but years of abuse and sleep deprivation had taken a toll on his memory.

Peter scribbled notes furiously as the doctor spoke, describing how soldiers had tied a rope around him and dragged him around through dirt and gravel. He said he was subjected to extreme temperatures of heat and cold. Sometimes he was kept in complete darkness for hours and then made to stare into intense bright light. He was made to stand endless hours of the night in uncomfortable positions. He was punished if he looked to his right or to his left. Each moment, he believed, could be his last.

And with every blow, he would repeat to himself, "La-illahailla-Allah — There is no God but God."

These words are the first words a Muslim hears upon his birth and often the last words spoken before he dies. When a baby is born, the doctor or the father utters this prayer into the crying infant's ear. On the threshold of death, a doctor or family member often urges the dying person to speak these final parting words. And afterward, the family will echo this prayer as the deceased is laid to rest.

"La-illaha-illa-Allah, Mohammad-an-rasul Allah — There is no god but God, and Mohammad is his messenger."

…

Mousovi said he didn't know why he'd been brought to Guantanamo Bay. He believed that someone had sold him to U.S. forces to collect a reward of up to $25,000 for anyone who gave up a Taliban or al-Qaeda member. Perhaps his political opponents had given false reports to the Americans to prevent him from running for parliament. He could only speculate. He insisted that he was simply a doctor who wanted to help rebuild his country.

From the book My Guantanamo Diary by Mahvish Rukhsana Khan. Reprinted by arrangement with PublicAffairs, a member of the Perseus Books Group. Copyright © 2008.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92744955

Hog Trash
06-22-2009, 03:24 PM
White House & Mainstream Media Don't Seem to Care


A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Co-Editor of ThePoliticalCarnival.blogspot.com

Major Barry Wingard is an attorney who represents an innocent Kuwaiti detainee named Fayiz al-Kandari. Fayiz has been in imprisoned -- and abused -- for 7 ½ years. In Fayiz's opinion, and I trust him over most who have never been a guest at Hotel Gitmo, conditions there are worse than they were before. To add salt to his many wounds, Fayiz is still waiting for his day in court.
Exactly how did you determine Fayiz is innocent if he hasn't had his day in court yet?

Tara cards, crystal ball, intuition, blind faith or by some means I have not yet heard of?

Like most liberals, you base your conclusions on what fits your political agenda for each situation.

An innocent Fayiz would substantiate your political beliefs and accusations for the past 8 years.

You need Fayiz to be innocent, therefore he is....Do you now recognize your liberal rationale?

Zebulon0351
06-23-2009, 12:51 AM
Exactly how did you determine Fayiz is innocent if he hasn't had his day in court yet?

Tara cards, crystal ball, intuition, blind faith or by some means I have not yet heard of?

Like most liberals, you base your conclusions on what fits your political agenda for each situation.

An innocent Fayiz would substantiate your political beliefs and accusations for the past 8 years.

You need Fayiz to be innocent, therefore he is....Do you now recognize your liberal rationale?


Wow... this is funny. I can remember many on this site who determine every single detainee in Gitmo guilty before trial. Shit.. there are even some who still determine them guilty after they were found not guilty in court.

So don't act like it isn't coming from the right just as much.

Hog Trash
06-23-2009, 09:12 AM
Wow... this is funny. I can remember many on this site who determine every single detainee in Gitmo guilty before trial. Shit.. there are even some who still determine them guilty after they were found not guilty in court.

So don't act like it isn't coming from the right just as much.I don't believe anyone on the right gave much thought about guilt or innocence.

Captured enemy combatants are not usually subject to the same rights as common criminals.

They are simply locked-up untill the end of the war and released back to their respective nations.

Trials are only necessary when a captured enemy is accused of war crimes.

disrupter
06-23-2009, 04:04 PM
Gitmo is a crime & it is an additional travesty how it was populated & run.

America is shameful for not being disgusted by this institution that is in entirety a war crime.

The Professor
06-23-2009, 04:20 PM
and more than 50 blue senators voted to keep it open

LOLOLOL!!!