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disrupter
06-12-2009, 04:23 PM
Looks like the terrorist/murderer that struck the Holocaust museum yesterday is another Obama hater like so many of the right wing nuts who post here in this forum.

Museum shooting suspect James von Brunn's chilling racist note

BY Richard Sisk In Washington and Rich Schapiro In New York
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Updated Thursday, June 11th 2009, 3:11 PM
Investigators found a sinister note inside the car of the geriatric neo-Nazi accused of storming the Holocaust Museum, court papers released Thursday show.

"You want my weapons - this is how you'll get them," reads the note discovered inside James von Brunn's car shortly after his murderous rampage.

"The Holocaust is a lie.

Obama was created by Jews."

The hateful screed emerged as police revealed that Stephen Tyrone Johns, 39, opened the door for von Brunn before the hatemonger turned the museum lobby into a shooting gallery.

"Johns was kind enough to open the door to allow him to enter," said Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier. "As he entered, he raised the rifle, opened fire, striking Special Police Officer Johns."

Johns took a bullet in his torso and died a short while later. Two guards returned fire, critically wounding von Brunn, 88.

The Holocaust-denying, white supremacist will be charged with murder and using a firearm on federal property - capital crimes that could lead to von Brunn receiving the death penalty, officials said.

Johns' mother, Jacqueline Carter, said Thursday she feels like she's stuck in a "bad nightmare."

"It's the hardest thing I think any mother can go through."

Carter added: "With it being this way, from the hands of someone so filled with hatred, I would hope that this person would eventually pull himself together and get rid of some of that venom inside."

Johns' former colleagues remembered the slain guard Thursday as a gentle giant who went out of his way to be kind to museum visitors.

"He was a big guy with a big heart," said Milton Talley, 44, a former colleague of Johns. "He'd do anything for the visitors that came to the museum."

Johns, a diehard Redskins fan, lived in Temple Hills in Maryland. He graduated in 1988 from the Crossland High School in Temple Hills.

On Monday mornings in the fall, Johns often led spirited debates among his co-workers about the NFL, former colleagues said.

"He and the other guards would be talking smack back and forth about the Redskins and the Cowboys," Burcky said.

Johns' former colleagues said that he had remarried about a year ago, and had at least one child.

"If you had to pick someone who exuded caring and seeing the best in people, that was him," said Bill Parsons, chief of staff at the museum. "He was terrific at it."

"He was this big guy with a big smile. If we ever had a football team, he would have been one of our linebackers."

Von Brunn spewed hate online for decades. In his self-published book, "Kill the Best Gentiles," he railed against a Jewish conspiracy to "destroy the white gene pool."

Von Brunn spent more than six years in prison after he tried to hold Federal Reserve officials hostage in 1981.

His ex-wife told the Daily News Wednesday he planned to "go out with his boots on."http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/06/11/2009-06-11_holocaust_museum_guard_.html

I am sure not everyone who dislikes Obama is a nut, but it doesn't seem to be at all out of the ordinary.

SeniorChief
06-12-2009, 04:32 PM
We've already established -
He hated Bush 1
He hated NEOCONS
He hated Bush 2
He supports your 9/11 whacked conspiracy theory
He hates Jews (ala Hitler, Obama, Rev. Wright)
He hated McCain

Case fucking closed, asshole.

LIBERAL

bairdi
06-12-2009, 04:35 PM
We've already established -
He hated Bush 1
He hated NEOCONS
He hated Bush 2
He supports your 9/11 whacked conspiracy theory
He hates Jews (ala Hitler, Obama, Rev. Wright)
He hated McCain

Case fucking closed, asshole.

LIBERAL
Not only are you a welsher, you're a dumbass as well. The moron was a nutcase and he was a very far right nutcase. He hated LIBERALS you fucking idiot.

MintJulep
06-12-2009, 04:44 PM
Not only are you a welsher, you're a dumbass as well. The moron was a nutcase and he was a very far right nutcase. He hated LIBERALS you fucking idiot.He was a 9/11 twoofer who hated Bush. On his list of targets was the Weekly Standard and Fox news locations -- which are both markedly right wing. A right winger would love Fox News. You are wrong about this so why don't you just own up to it?

Thursday, June 11, 2009 15:10 EDT

Report: Von Brunn targeted Weekly Standard

James Von Brunn, the 88-year-old man who allegedly shot and killed a guard at the U.S. Holocaust Museum on Wednesday, was reportedly carrying a long list of potential targets at the time of the attack. Among the names on it are some that may surprise a few people, including the Weekly Standard and a Fox News office.

Politico's Ben Smith reports (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Standard_may_have_been_shooter_target.html# comments) that the Standard, a conservative magazine founded by Bill Kristol, got a visit from FBI agents yesterday, and that the agents told staffers they'd found the office address on a piece of paper "associated with" Von Brunn.

Separately, a Fox affiliate reports (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/national/090610Shots_Fired_AT_Holocaust_Museum) that during a search of Von Brunn's car, law enforcement found a notebook that contained information about "six to nine locations in the D.C. area," including what's described only as "a Fox News location," the White House, the Capitol, the Washington Post and, of course, the Holocaust Museum.

Really, it shouldn't be all that surprising that Von Brunn would have directed some of his ire at the Weekly Standard. Based on his writing published to the Internet, his hatred of Jews appears to be pretty all-encompassing. Like a lot of people on the fringe, that hatred extends to neo-conservatives, who he saw as running U.S. foreign policy in service of Israel. Considering the Weekly Standard's prominence as an outlet for writers like Kristol, it was natural that he'd focus on it. (As for Fox News and the Washington Post, well, the old
canard that Jews run the media dies hard.)

Von Brunn has now been formally charged in the case. According to the criminal complaint (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5081368.shtml), among the things he'd written in the notebook was, "Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what his Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America's money. Jews control the mass media... JVB swore (LT USNR) to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Jews -- Bolsheviks -- Zionist are America's enemies." The complaint also reveals that Von Brunn was shot in the face, apparently by a shot fired by another museum guard, who was using a .38 caliber weapon. Von Brunn was allegedly using a .22 caliber rifle.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/06/11/standard/

SeniorChief
06-12-2009, 04:56 PM
Bairdi - I have given you multiple chances to back off the bet and/or man up.

You're nothing more than a pussy.

Von Brunn's all yours asshole.

Whether you want to alter your sig line to reflect your loss of the bet is between you and yourself.

I could really give a shit less.

bairdi
06-12-2009, 05:04 PM
Bairdi - I have given you multiple chances to back off the bet and/or man up.

You're nothing more than a pussy.

Von Brunn's all yours asshole.

Whether you want to alter your sig line to reflect your loss of the bet is between you and yourself.

I could really give a shit less.
Only problem here you little weasel is that I didn't lose the bet. I have no more to say on the subject. The facts are here on a public forum in black and white and anyone who wants can access them and see for themselves the shallowness of your character.

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Captain Hanks: And what would that be, Chief Brashear?"
Carl Brashear: " Honor, sir"

radioguy
06-12-2009, 05:12 PM
Here... Look at this (http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=9549)

bairdi
06-12-2009, 05:36 PM
Here... Look at this (http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=9549)
An opinion piece by a conservative writer. No surprise here, just some inaccuracies and a predictable conclusion. To get a true measure of the man, I suggest you read his own words.

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=105853&postcount=17

radioguy
06-12-2009, 07:33 PM
An opinion piece by a conservative writer. No surprise here, just some inaccuracies and a predictable conclusion. To get a true measure of the man, I suggest you read his own words.

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=105853&postcount=17

Here are some more of the mans words from a piece he wrote called "CHRISTIANITY and the HOLOCAUST (http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/jameswvonbrunnalsohatedchristians/)":

Saul had an incredible, earthshaking IDEA. A light-bulb inspiration. He, Saul — a Roman citizen — suddenly realized how he could destroy Rome! Saul trembled uncontrollably with fear and joy. He would simply promulgate the insane teachings of Jesus! What better way to destroy a Nation — any Nation — than to undermine her hubris; her gods, ethics, mores, history, her gene-pool — in short, Saul would DESTROY ROMAN CULTURE. Then, as night follows day, with her foundations rotted, the Roman Empire would FALL. Saul decided to begin the HOAX by inventing a miraculous encounter on the road to Damascus with the reincarnated Jesus the Christ!
Toward that end — no different than Hollywood script-writers today — Saul created a bogus a la Spielberg docu-drama stuffed with lies, miracles, guilt trips, betrayal, virgin birth, eternal damnation, salvation — a scenario appealing to the superstitious, vulnerable, ignorant yearning sheep — he named his hoax “Christianity.”...

...These dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, DESTROYED the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!
The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION … CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES.
“Christianity” destroyed Roman Civilization. The “Holocaust” Religion is destroying Western Civilization. The Aryan gene-pool dies, “unwept, unhonored and unsung.”

The guy was a fucking kook bairdi. He subscribed to an ideology of hate, not republican or democrat.

I think it's pretty lame for you, or anyone else, to attempt to assign this guy to a political party. He embraced anyone that subscribed to his brand of hatred, which you can find on both the extreme right, and the extreme left.

btw, I went to your link, and the link to the original story came up "Page can not be displayed". His site has been taken down.

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bairdi
06-12-2009, 07:57 PM
Here are some more of the mans words from a piece he wrote called "CHRISTIANITY and the HOLOCAUST (http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/jameswvonbrunnalsohatedchristians/)":

Saul had an incredible, earthshaking IDEA. A light-bulb inspiration. He, Saul — a Roman citizen — suddenly realized how he could destroy Rome! Saul trembled uncontrollably with fear and joy. He would simply promulgate the insane teachings of Jesus! What better way to destroy a Nation — any Nation — than to undermine her hubris; her gods, ethics, mores, history, her gene-pool — in short, Saul would DESTROY ROMAN CULTURE. Then, as night follows day, with her foundations rotted, the Roman Empire would FALL. Saul decided to begin the HOAX by inventing a miraculous encounter on the road to Damascus with the reincarnated Jesus the Christ!
Toward that end — no different than Hollywood script-writers today — Saul created a bogus a la Spielberg docu-drama stuffed with lies, miracles, guilt trips, betrayal, virgin birth, eternal damnation, salvation — a scenario appealing to the superstitious, vulnerable, ignorant yearning sheep — he named his hoax “Christianity.”...

...These dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, DESTROYED the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!
The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION … CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES.
“Christianity” destroyed Roman Civilization. The “Holocaust” Religion is destroying Western Civilization. The Aryan gene-pool dies, “unwept, unhonored and unsung.”

The guy was a fucking kook bairdi. He subscribed to an ideology of hate, not republican or democrat.

I think it's pretty lame for you, or anyone else, to attempt to assign this guy to a political party. He embraced anyone that subscribed to his brand of hatred, which you can find on both the extreme right, and the extreme left.

btw, I went to your link, and the link to the original story came up "Page can not be displayed". His site has been taken down.

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rg....I never attempted to assign this guy to a political party and find it quite offensive that you would even accuse me of that especially in light of what I have posted on this incident.

Yes, most times these people belong to parties that are on the fringe if they belong to a party at all. However, the point I have been making is that everyone has a belief that falls somewhere along the political spectrum, either right or left. People like this guy usually fall somewhere to the extreme side of that spectrum. In this guy's case, his beliefs are way out to the right. Had he written about the illegality of the Iraq war and walked into some military building and opened fire, I would say he was a far left wacko.

What the fuck are you talking about? Conservative Republican? Where did that come from? The guy is a wacko. On that point we all agree. Does he have right wing leanings or left wing leanings? I think I have shown that in the man's own words, his leanings are very much on the right side of the political spectrum.

I want you to read some of the stuff that this nutcase wrote. Yes, the site is down. What you have to do is put the following link into google. When the google page comes up, you will see the following.
Holy Western Empire - FED Caper and Precedents
Sep 1, 2004 ... Over the years Revisionists have asked me to write about my effort in 1981 to place the Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System (FED), ...
www.holywesternempire.org/fed-caper.html - Cached - Similar
click on the cached link and that will bring up the cached copy of the page.


Here is the link to paste into google.
http://www.holywesternempire.org/fed-caper.html

SeniorChief
06-13-2009, 08:10 AM
rg....I never attempted to assign this guy to a political party....



Then why did you participate in the bet, weasel?

bairdi
06-13-2009, 09:16 AM
Then why did you participate in the bet, weasel?
Really.......

How much you want to bet....

Sig line???

If he's not a "right winged whacko" as you suggest - you walk around with

"I'm a Muslim-Loving Terrorist Supporter"

in your sig line for 30 days.

If he IS a "right winged whacko," I'll wear it.

Deal??
:lmao2:
Right wing wacko is not a party dipshit. Man up asshole!

SeniorChief
06-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Right wing wacko is not a party dipshit. Man up asshole!

His beliefs are LEFT LEANING asshole. You lost the bet. You know it, I know it.

Get bent. I don't give a shit if you wear the sigline or not.

disrupter
06-13-2009, 11:50 AM
He attacked & murdered innocent people for baseless reasons,

Just like the Neocons invaded Iraq.

Even though he hates them, they have parallel behaviors.

The Neocons have murdered over a million innocents, he only killed one.

The NEOCONs are mass murdering terrorists,
he is small time by comparison.

Mr. Blue
06-13-2009, 05:48 PM
The Dems and Reps are equal on this one point...I think you're all nuts on this topic.

This guy was crazy, trying to put a political party to him is kind of like going to an insane asylum and getting the political pulse of the patients. Von Brunn pretty much hated everyone. I can only say let this be a cautionary tale for those of you that become unhinged on the internet that you might end up like this lunatic.

Also as a sidenote, if any of you do go batshit crazy and they mention this forum....I'm so being the first one to contact the newspapers that I knew you when and I won't be kind, I'll make shit up about you...like...you admitted to eating aged dog turd, you enjoyed watching female midget mud wrestling, and you wore diapers on long car rides so you didn't have to use a restroom.