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Smurf-Herder
06-11-2009, 08:05 PM
June 11, 2009
NK’s Post UN Sanctions Plans, Revealed
By James Rosen, Fox News State Department Correspondent

U.S. intelligence officials have warned President Obama and other senior American officials that North Korea intends to respond to the passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution this week -- condemning the communist country for its recent nuclear and ballistic missile tests -- with another nuclear test, FOX News has learned.

What's more, Pyongyang's next nuclear detonation is but one of four planned actions the Central Intelligence Agency has learned, through sources inside North Korea, that the regime of Kim Jong-Il intends to take -- but not announce -- once the Security Council resolution is officially passed, likely on Friday.

The other three actions include the reprocessing of all of the North's spent plutonium fuel rods into weapons-grade plutonium; a major escalation in the North's uranium-enrichment program; and the launching of another Taepodong-2 intercontinental ballistic missile from the Yunsong military complex on the west coast of North Korea. The North last launched a Taepodong-2 on April 5; it conducted its second nuclear test in the last three years on Memorial Day.

The intelligence community only learned of North Korea's plans this week, prompting CIA to alert senior officials. Asked who would be briefed on this kind of data, a source told FOX News: "The top people: POTUS, DNI." "POTUS" is acronym for the president of the United States; "DNI" refers to the director of the Office of National Intelligence.

FOX News is withholding some details about the sources and methods by which American intelligence agencies learned of the North's plans so as to avoid compromising sensitive overseas operations in a country -- North Korea -- U.S. spymasters regard as one of the world's most difficult to penetrate.

A White House official, contacted by FOX News, declined to comment, saying only that the U.S. government never speaks publicly about intelligence matters.

As top Obama administration officials weigh this prized data and what actions they might take to counter North Korea's plans for a third nuclear test, American intelligence analysts have also encountered setback in their efforts to track developments in the reclusive Stalinist country.

Where U.S. officials had observed the arrival of the first-stage transporter for a Taepodong-2 at Yunsong by June 2, leading to predictions of an imminent launch by officials as high-ranking as Defense Secretary Robert Gates, sources now tell FOX News they see no significant activity consistent with an imminent launch.

"The TD-2 activity has been rather dormant," one source said.

As well, where American intelligence officials on June 9 observed components for the long-range Musudan missile leaving the Wapo-ri installation area, they have now "lost track of them," FOX News has learned.

"We spotted the TELs [Transporter-Erector-Launchers] and then we lost track of them," a source said. "NGA lost track."

NGA refers to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a unit the Defense Department that provides imagery and geospatial information for military and civilian purposes.

"It's disturbing," the source added.

As well, despite multiple tests, U.S. scientists have only reached inconclusive results in their efforts to use air samplings collected over the Korean Peninsula in the days after the Memorial Day detonation to confirm with 100 percent certainty that North Korea conducted a nuclear test, as is still widely believed.

http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/11/nks-post-un-sanctions-plans-revealed/

Smurf-Herder
06-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Wonder how much of all these nuclear tests are joint-research ...


North Korea, Iran joined on missile work: U.S. general
By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iran and North Korea are working together to develop ballistic missiles and have made significant progress, the head of the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency said on Thursday.

"It really is an international effort going on out there to develop ballistic missile capability between these countries," Army Lieutenant General Patrick O'Reilly told a forum on Capitol Hill.

Iran and North Korea each is at odds with much of the international community over their nuclear programs, and North Korea has tested an atomic bomb. Each has demonstrated a capability to launch missiles with more than one stage, critical to more advanced systems.

They are sharing know-how on avionics, propulsion and materials, among other things, O'Reilly said.

"We've seen it for years and it continues," he said of such cooperation between North Korea and Iran, whose Shahab missiles are widely reported to be based on North Korean designs.

Their ability to fire missiles with a stable ignition and launch a second stage represents "a significant step forward" for both of them, O'Reilly said.

Asked which country was further ahead in missile development, he said it could be described as a "horse race" with no clear leader.

Other experts said Iran had demonstrated greater expertise with test-firing of a solid-fuel rocket with a stated range of some 1,200 miles -- enough to reach Israel, U.S. bases in the Gulf or southeastern Europe.

Solid-propellant missiles offer many advantages over those with liquid fuel. They are easier to store, harder to detect and may be launched without a fueling process readily observable by spy satellites.

Iran's use of solid-fuel missiles demonstrated "a quantum leap in capabilities" over those shown by North Korea, Uzi Rubin, the former head of Israel's Missile Defense Organization, told Reuters in an interview.

"Basically, this is big-power league," he said, adding that the jury was still out, as far he was concerned, on whether the two had integrated their ballistic missile programs.

The U.S. Air Force's National Air and Space Intelligence Center, says Iran, with support from outside sources, within six years could produce a missile capable of hitting the United States.

"Iran has ambitious ballistic missile and space launch development programs and, with sufficient foreign assistance, Iran could develop and test an ICBM capable of reaching the United States by 2015," it said in a new report.

The report, made available by the Federation of American Scientists, said North Korea was continuing work on its Taepodong 2 "that could reach the United States with a nuclear payload" if developed as an intercontinental ballistic missile.

The Obama administration has asked Congress for $7.8 billion for the U.S. Missile Defense Agency in fiscal 2010, down about $1.2 billion from 2009. Congress is considering adding more funds.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE55A4E720090611

Dale escondido
06-11-2009, 08:35 PM
China is fighting a war by proxy with us.
They want to enjoy the benefits of globalizing knowing its hardest on the most developed nations and seeing us struggle with a situation they could resolve with a phone call.
If Obama apologizes to them they might help:banghead:

Smurf-Herder
06-11-2009, 08:45 PM
China is fighting a war by proxy with us.
They want to enjoy the benefits of globalizing knowing its hardest on the most developed nations and seeing us struggle with a situation they could resolve with a phone call.
If Obama apologizes to them they might help:banghead:

They're really pissed at us now. They're worried we won't be able to pay them back, with all the economic craziness; on top of just the usual wanting to rule the world.

Dale escondido
06-11-2009, 09:01 PM
They're really pissed at us now. They're worried we won't be able to pay them back, with all the economic craziness; on top of just the usual wanting to rule the world.

Good analogy, they want to break us down slowly.
They intend to be the next super nation.
Breaking us down slowly trying to recover some if not all moneys.
They are adopting a new capital-communistism that working for them.
They are building nuclear plants ,coal plants, drilling for oil all over the world and beating us up with their aliances.
If you want to see the future of america with our new policys just look south to mexico, its our future.

The Professor
06-11-2009, 09:32 PM
1. if kim invades with his madly disciplined million man army there is nothing ON THE GROUND to stop him

2. when the north invaded so suddenly in the summer of 50, it went SO FAST, we were squished within weeks into the teeny pusan perimeter at the foot of the peninsula, where we were in danger of getting pushed off altogether, when macarthur amphibiously accomplished inchon, got behind the enemy, and suddenly we're heading north at 60 mph

3. super, super fast, first south, then north, all the way to the yalu border with china by october, when the people's army, a million men, suddenly attacked us one freezing nite that winter---and we're heading south once more at 60 mph

4. super, super fast, back to the parallel in weeks

5. if kim invades, there is nothing ON THE GROUND to stop his numbers, technology equal to ours and overwhelming WILL, we will be fleeing south as fast as 1950, any americans left there (we have 38000 today on the dmz) will be slaughtered, obama will have to pull them from hopeless retreat

6. and to avoid increased commitment

7. however, we have an unlimited NAVAL presence in the region, including nukes

8. no one this side of mac himself advocates using a nuke, with obama it's out of the question anyway

9. but obama must then restort to targeting spots in the north with his offshore missile capacity

9. good

10. except naval and usaf employment in the theater is PURE expression of american WILL

11. and---the point---obama has NOT the WILL to SUSTAIN a missile offensive for MORE THAN A WEEK

12. with obama as commander in chief, our WILL to resist, our WILL to USE in any way our military in any place or circumstance anywhere on earth is absolute zero

13. THAT's what's going on in korea

14. it is the ILLUSTRATION of a military dynamic where the regional deterrent to kim is so extremely loathe to use its military, so fast to blame america first and apologize for everything else

15. we simply OBVIOUSLY (to everybody) have zero WILL to stand up to anyone for anything at any time under this extreme PACIFIST of a president, one SO EAGER to diplomatize with deranged despots

16. direly dangerous, deadly, disastraous, obama has no idea how to be president, he brings this all on himself, he is 100% responsible

The Professor
06-12-2009, 01:44 AM
also, pyongyang has never owned a weapon it did not sell

the nuclear reactor in syria destroyed (september, 2007) by one of those famous strikes by the israeli air force was built by koreans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard

the world is spiraling into catastrophic danger because obama's EXTREME pacifism, his LOATHING of our military preventing its employment actively ENCOURAGES punks to act out

the international situation is looking more and more like lord of the flies after the adults are gone

obama's foreign policy, when he's not bowing before abdullahs, is Ostrich---bury one's head, hope all just goes away

a DISGRACE as president

a WEAKLING