1st Club Gitmo Terrorist Arrives in the U.S.

[MintJulep]

and he is axing for a U.S. lawyer!!! Yippee!

Lawyer: Gitmo detainee in US wants military lawyer
By MIKE MELIA – 3 hours ago

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — A Guantanamo detainee transferred to the U.S. for trial in the American embassy bombings in Africa wants to keep his military defense team, one of the attorneys said Tuesday.

Two Pentagon-appointed attorneys for Ahmed Ghailani were traveling to New York for his arraignment Tuesday afternoon in hopes of staying on the case, Marine Col. Jeffrey Colwell said in a telephone interview from Washington.

"First and foremost is what he wants," Colwell said of his client. "We've got a good working relationship."

Ghailani is the first detainee from the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be transferred to the United States under an Obama administration plan to prosecute some of the remaining 240 prisoners in the federal court system.

Colwell said he and his fellow military counsel, Air Force Maj. Richard Reiter, have been preparing to defend Ghailani in federal court. He said the administration has not responded to their request to stay on the case.
Colwell, who was assigned to represent Ghailani before Guantanamo's military commissions, said protective orders bar him from sharing details of the regular meetings they have held at the remote U.S. Navy base in southeast Cuba since August.

As a "high-value" detainee, Ghailani, a Tanzanian, has been held since 2006 at a secret Guantanamo prison reserved for prisoners transferred out of CIA custody. He was arraigned at Guantanamo in October. At a closed hearing in 2007, he said that he unwittingly delivered the explosives for the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania.

More than 200 people were killed in the simultaneous attacks in August 1998

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[Zebulon0351]

He's not the first Jihadist to be locked up in American prisons, and we haven't had a problem with any of them so far, so I don't see much need to worry.

[MintJulep]

He is the first non-citizen, terrorist to be brought here from Club Gitmo. I hope he gets killed in prison before they can release into the streets.

[Zebulon0351]

He is the first non-citizen, terrorist to be brought here from Club Gitmo. I hope he gets killed in prison before they can release into the streets.

1: They won't release him into the streets, you need to quit watching Hannity and O'Reilly.

2: I don't have a problem with prison justice wiping the floor with him, just as long as it is not done by the very people working for the US Government who are bound by law to treat any enemy prisoner of war with the highest levels of humanity and morality.

[MintJulep]

1: They won't release him into the streets, you need to quit watching Hannity and O'Reilly.What if he gets a bleeding heart lawyer who gets the case thrown out on a technicality, lack of evidence, etc? Where is he going? Have you seen the plan, cause I haven't.

2: I don't have a problem with prison justice wiping the floor with him, just as long as it is not done by the very people working for the US Government who are bound by law to treat any enemy prisoner of war with the highest levels of humanity and morality.I don't care who does it. I don't want Gitmo terrorists in the U.S. It is a dereliction of duty on Obama's part to allow a terrorist to potentially be released into the US and the accountability is all his.

[Zebulon0351]

What if he gets a bleeding heart lawyer who gets the case thrown out on a technicality, lack of evidence, etc? Where is he going? Have you seen the plan, cause I haven't.

I don't care who does it. I don't want Gitmo terrorists in the U.S. It is a dereliction of duty on Obama's part to allow a terrorist to potentially be released into the US and the accountability is all his.

Again, there are many, many jihadists that have been in our prisons long before Obama became a household name. He's not the first to do it.

[MintJulep]

Again, there are many, many jihadists that have been in our prisons long before Obama became a household name. He's not the first to do it.You don't seem to understand. This is not a U.S. citizen. This is an illegal, enemy combatant terrorist from ANOTHER country being brought here.

I ask you again, if he is found not-guilty, where will he go?!!

[T-Cat]

You don't seem to understand. This is not a U.S. citizen. This is an illegal, enemy combatant terrorist from ANOTHER country being brought here.How is he an illegal enemy combatant? Ghailani was not captured on the battlefield nor in any act of terrorism. He was arrested by Pakistani forces in a city in Pakistan and then turned over to US authorities as Ghailani was indicted by a US federal grand jury for multiple counts of murder, conspiracy to commit murder, attempted murder, etc.

I ask you again, if he is found not-guilty, where will he go?!!He could be deported to his home country of Tanzania. Or returned to Pakistan. As he is not a US citizen he has no right to remain in the US even if he is found not guilty of all crimes.

He is of less danger than an American citizen who is a accused of terrorism because if the latter was found not guilty then they would have to be released in the US.

[Zebulon0351]

You don't seem to understand. This is not a U.S. citizen. This is an illegal, enemy combatant terrorist from ANOTHER country being brought here.

I ask you again, if he is found not-guilty, where will he go?!!

If he's found not guilty, then he's not guilty. So we have no reason to worry.

Your comment proves how one-sided your mind is. You are just assuming he's guilty in the first place. He may just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But you don't care, he's Muslim and that automatically makes him guilty.

[MintJulep]

He could be deported to his home country of Tanzania. Or returned to Pakistan. As he is not a US citizen he has no right to remain in the US even if he is found not guilty of all crimes.What are the Obama Administration's plans for anyone found not-guilty? Do you have something you're basing this on or it is simply a guess?

He is of less danger than an American citizen who is a accused of terrorism because if the latter was found not guilty then they would have to be released in the US.It doesn't matter. Our sworn, foreign enemies do not belong here.

[T-Cat]

What are the Obama Administration's plans for anyone found not-guilty? Do you have something you're basing this on or it is simply a guess?The fact that the US can deport any non-citizen is not a guess. People who haven't even been accused of crimes can be denied entrance into the country.

From the looks of the indictment against this guy I think the odds of him being found not guilty are next to zero.

It doesn't matter. Our sworn, foreign enemies do not belong here.He was already indicted by a federal court. He was turned over to US jursidiction and should stand trial for those indicted crimes. "Sworn" enemy is just another catch phrase but is legally meaningless.

[MintJulep]

The fact that the US can deport any non-citizen is not a guess. People who haven't even been accused of crimes can be denied entrance into the country.The US --or any other nation-- has never given foreign enemies a venue in the domestic court system. Our own military cannot sue for habeas corpus in our federal courts. Yet you approve of giving special citizens' rights to a terrorist? This is what I don't understand. He is not a citizen, he did not commit a crime on our soil, he is NOT covered by the U.S. Constitution.

From the looks of the indictment against this guy I think the odds of him being found not guilty are next to zero.He's asking for a lawyer. I'm sure there is some bleeding heart, terrorist lover lawyer who would love to get him released. There was another such American lawyer, Lynn somebody, who was found conspiring with a terrorist.

He was already indicted by a federal court. He was turned over to US jursidiction and should stand trial for those indicted crimes. "Sworn" enemy is just another catch phrase but is legally meaningless.He is not a citizen and does not, I repeat NOT, have a right to a trial in our federal courts. This is simply Bammy takin' care of his Muzzie bruthas.

[MintJulep]

If he's found not guilty, then he's not guilty. So we have no reason to worry.

Your comment proves how one-sided your mind is. You are just assuming he's guilty in the first place. He may just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But you don't care, he's Muslim and that automatically makes him guilty.He's not American and is a potential danger to our society. That's the issue. I don't give a damn about giving an Islamofascist the warm and fuzzies.

I thought soldiers advocate protecting the citizenry, not endangering them.

[T-Cat]

The US --or any other nation-- has never given foreign enemies a venue in the domestic court system. Our own military cannot sue for habeas corpus in our federal courts. Yet you approve of giving special citizens' rights to a terrorist? This is what I don't understand. He is not a citizen, he did not commit a crime on our soil, he is NOT covered by the U.S. Constitution.Except he was indicted in a federal court for specific crimes against American citizens and property. Embassy's are considered a country's "soil". Simply stating he is a terrorist does not change his legality.

He's asking for a lawyer. I'm sure there is some bleeding heart, terrorist lover lawyer who would love to get him released. There was another such American lawyer, Lynn somebody, who was found conspiring with a terrorist.So now people who are indicted for crimes don't deserve a lawyer? Again there is no law that would allow him to be released in the US instead of being deported.

He is not a citizen and does not, I repeat NOT, have a right to a trial in our federal courts. This is simply Bammy takin' care of his Muzzie bruthas.He was indicted by a federal court and should face those charges. Your silly childish rhetoric is noted.

[Zebulon0351]

He's not American and is a potential danger to our society. That's the issue. I don't give a damn about giving an Islamofascist the warm and fuzzies.

I thought soldiers advocate protecting the citizenry, not endangering them.

I advocate fair, ethical, and humane treatment for any individual who is under our care after being detained. As I have said before, we are currently holding a few hundred international terrorists in our prisons within our borders, and as far as I have heard, not one of them have ever been released onto our streets.

http://www.allgov.com/ViewNews/Al_Qaeda_Terrorists_in_US_Prisons__Theyre_Already_ Here_90524

[Binky]

What if he gets a bleeding heart lawyer who gets the case thrown out on a technicality, lack of evidence, etc? Where is he going? Have you seen the plan, cause I haven't.

I don't care who does it. I don't want Gitmo terrorists in the U.S. It is a dereliction of duty on Obama's part to allow a terrorist to potentially be released into the US and the accountability is all his.


It's a slap in the face of Americans. An insult to say the least.

[xav8terx]

The US --or any other nation-- has never given foreign enemies a venue in the domestic court system. Our own military cannot sue for habeas corpus in our federal courts. Yet you approve of giving special citizens' rights to a terrorist? This is what I don't understand. He is not a citizen, he did not commit a crime on our soil, he is NOT covered by the U.S. Constitution.

He's asking for a lawyer. I'm sure there is some bleeding heart, terrorist lover lawyer who would love to get him released. There was another such American lawyer, Lynn somebody, who was found conspiring with a terrorist.

He is not a citizen and does not, I repeat NOT, have a right to a trial in our federal courts. This is simply Bammy takin' care of his Muzzie bruthas.



So does your bigot club have a card to show your membership or is it just a fuckin handshake? I have never seen so many racist fucks gathered in one place. You people are off the motherfuckin chain!!

[SeniorChief]

So does your bigot club have a card to show your membership or is it just a fuckin handshake? I have never seen so many racist fucks gathered in one place. You people are off the motherfuckin chain!!

Why don't you become the "Community Organizer" for the Muslims coming into the country from GTMO. Perhaps you could greet them at the airport, take them home to meet your Mother, etc.

[MintJulep]

So does your bigot club have a card to show your membership or is it just a fuckin handshake? I have never seen so many racist fucks gathered in one place. You people are off the motherfuckin chain!!If being against GITMO terrorists brought into this country is waycist, then color me a waycist. Maybe some of them can bunk with you and you can show them how much you love them.

[xav8terx]

If being against GITMO terrorists brought into this country is waycist, then color me a waycist. Maybe some of them can bunk with you and you can show them how much you love them.


Yeah, say hi to the clan next time you fucks rally up.

[xav8terx]

Why don't you become the "Community Organizer" for the Muslims coming into the country from GTMO. Perhaps you could greet them at the airport, take them home to meet your Mother, etc.

Hey, maybe your boyfriend Bush could shack them up at his fuckin place since this is his mess. Go burn a cross or something.

[SeniorChief]

Hey, maybe your boyfriend Bush could shack them up at his fuckin place since this is his mess. Go burn a cross or something.

Perhaps you'll meet a nice Muslim man and the two of you can settle down together. Be sure to wear you best Burka to the airport! Bring a goat too! You'll get extra credit for sure.

[xav8terx]

Perhaps you'll meet a nice Muslim man and the two of you can settle down together. Be sure to wear you best Burka to the airport! Bring a goat too! You'll get extra credit for sure.

You sure know a lot about man on man love. Want to tell us something instead of beating (off) around the Bush?

[SeniorChief]

You sure know a lot about man on man love.

I am merely trying to get you connected with someone just like you.

[MintJulep]

Yeah, say hi to the clan next time you fucks rally up.Awww, look at the little Muzzie, terrorist lover. Allah Akbar.

[doctordog]

So does your bigot club have a card to show your membership or is it just a fuckin handshake? I have never seen so many racist fucks gathered in one place. You people are off the motherfuckin chain!!

it takes one to recognize another, welcome to the club

[disrupter]

We may find out these are human beings.

Who we need to treat with proper law & justice,

not only for their sake, but for our own.

Either we believe with conviction in law & justice or we have lost our souls.

If they have provably committed crimes they need to pay the price, if not they should be released & should have NEVER put in that filthy place created by the terrorists, Bush & Cheney.

Gitmo was created by terrorists within the US government.

Torture is a tool of terrorists, NOT of law abiding governments & citizens.

[doctordog]

We may find out these are human beings.

Who we need to treat with proper law & justice,

not only for their sake, but for our own.

Either we believe with conviction in law & justice or we have lost our souls.

If they have provably committed crimes they need to pay the price, if not they should be released & should have NEVER put in that filthy place created by the terrorists, Bush & Cheney.

Gitmo was created by terrorists within the US government.

Torture is a tool of terrorists, NOT of law abiding governments & citizens.

All praise be to Allah my brother.

[Cat slave]

If he's found not guilty, then he's not guilty. So we have no reason to worry.

Your comment proves how one-sided your mind is. You are just assuming he's guilty in the first place. He may just some guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But you don't care, he's Muslim and that automatically makes him guilty.

Hmm...."found not guilty"? Somehow that fails to make one feel secure. Courts/juries have agendas...can we say O.J.?

[Cat slave]

Perhaps you'll meet a nice Muslim man and the two of you can settle down together. Be sure to wear you best Burka to the airport! Bring a goat too! You'll get extra credit for sure.


ROTFL..:lmao2:

[xav8terx]

I am merely trying to get you connected with someone just like you.



You dont have to lie to kick it son.

[xav8terx]

Awww, look at the little Muzzie, terrorist lover. Allah Akbar.


Fuck off minty, take dog with you. :lmao2:

[xav8terx]

it takes one to recognize another, welcome to the club


I wasn’t asking for an invite moron. You can keep your club (I was never any good at secret handshakes anyway). I'm sure you can find plenty of your kind on here to recruit.