American capitalism gone with a whimper

[Richard Poor]

American capitalism gone with a whimper

27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Stanislav Mishin


-Link (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/)Even the Russians know that we are headed in the wrong direction fast... wow, how sad for United States that Obama won and America lost.

[Binky]

Reading this just breaks my heart knowing that this is all too true. Our leaders are arrogant and turn a deaf ear from leaders of other countries that have been there, done that.

How stupid are we to have let them have the control they now display? :(

[Richard Poor]

Reading this just breaks my heart knowing that this is all too true. Our leaders are arrogant and turn a deaf ear from leaders of other countries that have been there, done that.

How stupid are we to have let them have the control they now display? :(
I agree - it hurts.

[Bill Cosby]

Yes & the right wing wackO's of this country are quoting pravda........ WTF???:lmao2: :lmao2:

[Richard Poor]

Yes & the right wing wackO's of this country are quoting pravda........ WTF???:lmao2: :lmao2:
Lol, sometimes it is better to listen to a fool with experience than to listen to a liberal fool without any. In the end, regardless of the source, the truth stands tall... and so you are reduced to attacking the author of the article, rather than the article itself - that fact itself, speaks more than any image.

[radioguy]

Here's something to ponder...

Why is China becoming a world economic giant, and our status is weakening?

A: Because China is moving more and more toward capitalism, while we are inching further and further away from it.

Why is Russia becoming a wealthier and wealthier nation, and we are becoming poorer and poorer?

A: Because Russia is tapping into their vast resources of oil, and we refuse to tap into ours.

Think about it.

[Bill Cosby]

Lol, sometimes it is better to listen to a fool with experience than to listen to a liberal fool without any. In the end, regardless of the source, the truth stands tall... and so you are reduced to attacking the author of the article, rather than the article itself - that fact itself, speaks more than any image.

lol..... So says the man who gets his news from Pravda...........:lmao2: :lmao2:

I am sure all the right wing wackO's like yourself quote Pravda all thime..... ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Forgive me it is just to damn funny..........

Goldwater, Ronnie, Dicky gw etc.. quaoted it all the time............

[Bill Cosby]

I guess I could come up w/ lots of reasons in addition to that....

What you have done is seen a sitch & then projected your rational upon it. This is simply your conjecture & opinion & that is fine.......

Lets look @ sudi Arabia. They cut off hands & treat women like beasts........ So we should do the same & be rich like them........ Oy Vay

[Richard Poor]

lol..... So says the man who gets his news from Pravda...........:lmao2: :lmao2:

I am sure all the right wing wackO's like yourself quote Pravda all thime..... ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Forgive me it is just to damn funny..........

Goldwater, Ronnie, Dicky gw etc.. quaoted it all the time............
So many words and yet so little said.

The fact that you have wasted so much time attacking everyone and anyone except the argument itself speaks volumes about your position and how sad it is.

[Richard Poor]

Here's something to ponder...

Why is China becoming a world economic giant, and our status is weakening?

A: Because China is moving more and more toward capitalism, while we are inching further and further away from it.

Why is Russia becoming a wealthier and wealthier nation, and we are becoming poorer and poorer?

A: Because Russia is tapping into their vast resources of oil, and we refuse to tap into ours.

Think about it.
So true... and so sad.

[Bill Cosby]

so much time attacking everyone and anyone except the argument itself speaks volumes about your position and how sad it is.

So says the man pointing the gun........ :lmao2: :lmao2:

You wanna claim the end of capitalism via fucking pravda go head............ & excuse me for laughing as you do it.......... I guess that would be the right one........ :pokefun:

Don't forget to pound yea shoe before you abandon your thread.........http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZnjPfHM7cBc/ScF-wv56eyI/AAAAAAAAGw0/sUkk79d8yPQ/s400/khrushchev_shoe1.jpg

[disrupter]

This article is so full of holes there is really nothing there.

First of all a vast majority of Americans are religious idiots.
It is the capitalist fascist that were [are?] taking away our rights.

Capitalism IS anarchy.

Law & Order IS socialism.

The best system is righteous [fair, ethical] law & order capitalism, [A hybrid of socialism & capitalism]

Not pure dictator, gangster, twisted pretzel law capitalism,
which is parasitic, degenerative & ultimately suicidal.

Outlaw capitalism ends up looking very much like centrally 'planned' communism,
because they are both about consolidating power at a single axis.

The worst enemy of free & fair markets are big, bloated, corrupt corporations taking parasitic government contracts instead of working to produce something.

A really healthy & maximum wealth producing system is one that distributes opportunity over as wide a spectrum as possible.
The wing of an airplane is wide to gather as much upward pressure as possible.

In a free & FAIR [honest, ethical] market
People work hard, go the extra mile because they believe they get a fair shake & get to keep most of what they produce.

In a rigged, crooked, corrupt system, with laws that only benefit a few elite insiders,
people become cynical & do as little as possible because they know they will be robbed of anything they don't immediately consume themselves.

Forcing supposed 'morality' laws such as prostitution & narcotics bans the individuals of a society are being hypocritical.
If it is truly better for people not to use drugs or engage in prostitution, then the internal logic of that supposed 'fact' will become apparent & people will stop themselves.
These are communist, victimless laws that make your behaviors that have no consequence to anyone but you the government/society's property.

Either you believe people's lives are their own to lead or you are trying to take possession of them, which is a form of slavery.
Again, because slaves do not get to keep what they produce they are disinclined to produce anymore than is required by their enslavers.

Freedom, Dreams, Fairness, Opportunity are what make an economy thrive.

Restriction, theft, burden, fear are what make economies fail.

[Mr, gone]

Finland comes to mind as a country which has found the best compromise of governance. I would consider this country as being a social democracy.

Check into it's government structure, I think you will be surprised.:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

Yep nice high standard of living & WTF are they all so happy about there??? lol

Imagine how much we could waste "on us" if we did have our military around the world & fighting two wars in Central Asia & ME.........

[Binky]

Yes & the right wing wackO's of this country are quoting pravda........ WTF???:lmao2: :lmao2:



Will you please knock off the hate crapola for a time, at least, as it's really gettin' old, and has long since become boring. :banghead:

[kres24GT]

We are moving toward a fascist state, not a socialist one. The goal is 100% control over all of our lives. In most of our lifetimes almost every action we take will be dictated the government. Where we can work, how much we can work for, how much we can keep, who we can marry, what we can do with out own bodies, what we can do on our own private property, what we can eat, how much we must exercise. Not to mention we will be forced to buy into more corrupt government programs like Social Security where politicians will steal our money by force under the guise of "it's what is best for us". Both parties strongly believe in a fascist government, they just differ on some of the details.

[Smurf-Herder]

We are moving toward a fascist state, not a socialist one. The goal is 100% control over all of our lives. In most of our lifetimes almost every action we take will be dictated the government. Where we can work, how much we can work for, how much we can keep, who we can marry, what we can do with out own bodies, what we can do on our own private property, what we can eat, how much we must exercise. Not to mention we will be forced to buy into more corrupt government programs like Social Security where politicians will steal our money by force under the guise of "it's what is best for us". Both parties strongly believe in a fascist government, they just differ on some of the details.

The article is right on target; and so is your post.

The beast we helped create uses elements of Marxism and Socialism, with the fundamental underlying aspects being Fascist, in it's ultimate goal of achieving total domination. The culmination of all oppressive governments from human history, using the one nation founded on the principle of individual freedom - the ultimate "Wolf in Sheeps Clothing" for all mankind.

It's not as much a Democrat versus Republican mindset. It's just the Nature of the Beast ... taken to it's full conclusion.

[disrupter]

Religious people are the first order fascists, who believe their dictates come directly from God.

Corporate gangsters &/or dictators love to manipulate them to their own ends, because their scope of vision & thought is SO limited, so corrupt corporate & government operations are completely beyond their comprehension.

Central planning is NOT communal, but it is what the right wingers want.

Democracy IS communal [communist] decision making.

Anarchy is the [ficticious? impossible?] NOTION of NO order, but in fact organizational fragments naturally start appearing, some of those are good some are evil. Families, gangsters come to mind.

[disrupter]

Maybe one of the most important operations of government is stopping evil structures from arising?

We always think of government as being the 'organizer', but maybe government has a [more important?] job of disorganizing things?

Aren't the worst forms of corruption, organized corruption?

Maybe the government should not be there to 'Do' things, but to stop others from doing certain categories of things,
namely trespassing on others?

And colluding to trespass on others is a higher order of crime,
which often is a product of our corrupted government(s).
The government becomes the collusion point rather than the eliminator of collusion.

[disrupter]

Do you think easy money is a stress on good economic decisions?

There probably does have to be innovation, but does that require loose money?
Does easy money make more innovation happen?
If it does, are the negative effects [corruption] worth it?

Isn't it really ultimately about rubber hitting the road?
How do you maximize progress without getting sloppy with money?
Accountability?
What about the overhead of accounting?

then there is deception & fraud that presents itself as 'accounting', creative accounting.

[MintJulep]

Maybe one of the most important operations of government is stopping evil structures from arising?Government is the most evil of structures.

[disrupter]

But you want government to get rid of all those terrorists don't you?

Which side of your forked tongue do you speak from, today?

[MintJulep]

But you want government to get rid of all those terrorists don't you?

Which side of your forked tongue do you speak from, today?The primary function of the govt is the security of the nation -- not all the womb-to-tomb "freebie" --read that, taxpayer paid-- bullshit you want. That is Marxism.

[disrupter]

Is the security of the nation acceptable for government when 'government is the most evil of structures'?

sidebar: We think of [political] government as a centralized thing, but there are to some degree alternate forces, such as social pressures, acceptability.

oftentimes it is us who almost compulsively seem to want a centralized government.
"There ought to be a law . . . "

[disrupter]

But LadyLiberty7, i am sure it is ok for the 'most evil of structures' to prevail as long as it dresses itself inside military uniforms, yes?

[kres24GT]

Religious people are the first order fascists, who believe their dictates come directly from God.

Corporate gangsters &/or dictators love to manipulate them to their own ends, because their scope of vision & thought is SO limited, so corrupt corporate & government operations are completely beyond their comprehension.

Central planning is NOT communal, but it is what the right wingers want.

Democracy IS communal [communist] decision making.

Anarchy is the [ficticious? impossible?] NOTION of NO order, but in fact organizational fragments naturally start appearing, some of those are good some are evil. Families, gangsters come to mind.


Whether the fascism comes form religion or politics makes no difference to me. Most Americans want government to force their ideals on everyone. Whether it's outlawing abortion, preventing gay marriage, forcing Social Security on us, nationalized health care, whatever it is.... it is someone that has a belief and wants to use the police power of government to force everyone else to subscribe to it. Where these beliefs come form is irrelevant.

[Bill Cosby]

Will you please knock off the hate crapola for a time, at least, as it's really gettin' old, and has long since become boring. :banghead:

I would suggest you utilize the ignore feature..

[Bill Cosby]

The primary function of the govt is the security of the nation -- not all the womb-to-tomb "freebie" --read that, taxpayer paid-- bullshit you want. That is Marxism.

& what we have is simple militarism...................

[ROdger Right]

purpose of government is to protect its people. You fucking stupid shit liberals.

Beyond that the government should not choose to be involved for as disrupter says in every post thats not about health care government is evil.

[Bill Cosby]

Believe that if you like........

That is what they want you to believe...... That they want you to believe this should be & of it's self make you question it...........

They would rather spend our tax money on war- The MIC- military industrial complex..............

Other countries don't waste all their money on war.. Thus they can afford to use their tax payers money on their taxpayers.............

That is not socialism that is democracy............

[Mr, gone]

Our government is MORE than capable of vaporing any threat from these so called hostile flea bite sized countries. I have a huge issue when said government inflates and propagates these threats to create a feeling of fear within it's easily manipulated citizens!

It is embarrissing to watch the US beat up on little non threat entities, and then attempt to justify these overeaching acts as needed to stop terrorism on our soil.

I referenced Finland as an example of a country which has no enemies, and is most at peace with itself as compared to other fisrt world nations. It's simple people: leave others alone and they are likely to do the same! Walk softly while carrying a big stick.

And for those of you self righteous folks who will say something to the effect of 'yeah but Finland is small a country that terroist won't waste their time with ', are ignorant rantings of those in denial. This is not a liberal vs. conservative issue - it's simple logic and rational thinking 101.

I mostly don't waste my time one what the president says anymore, as the two party system both share this same idiot idealogy of continuing this dis-information regarding terroism. As one of my favorite qoutes from the great Benjiman Franklin states: "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety"

[ROdger Right]

Smaller countries = smaller problems

[Bill Cosby]

Our government is MORE than capable of vaporing any threat from these so called hostile flea bite sized countries. I have a huge issue when said government inflates and propagates these threats to create a feeling of fear within it's easily manipulated citizens!

It is embarrissing to watch the US beat up on little non threat entities, and then attempt to justify these overeaching acts as needed to stop terrorism on our soil.

I referenced Finland as an example of a country which has no enemies, and is most at peace with itself as compared to other fisrt world nations. It's simple people: leave others alone and they are likely to do the same! Walk softly while carrying a big stick.

And for those of you self righteous folks who will say something to the effect of 'yeah but Finland is small a country that terroist won't waste their time with ', are ignorant rantings of those in denial. This is not a liberal vs. conservative issue - it's simple logic and rational thinking 101.

I mostly don't waste my time one what the president says anymore, as the two party system both share this same idiot idealogy of continuing this dis-information regarding terroism. As one of my favorite qoutes from the great Benjiman Franklin states: "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety"

:thumbsup:

Hell Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our government is MORE than capable of vaporing any threat from these so called hostile flea bite sized countries. I have a huge issue when said government inflates and propagates these threats to create a feeling of fear within it's easily manipulated citizens!


Tell it brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is embarrissing to watch the US beat up on little non threat entities, and then attempt to justify these overeaching acts as needed to stop terrorism on our soil.


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

GREAT POST!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need more like this........ :thumbsup: