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Life_Long_Dem!
05-24-2009, 01:59 PM
the why did conservative host mancow last all of 6 seconds and cry that it WAS torture?

Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before saying its torture...


Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller decided he'd get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn't torture.

It didn't turn out that way. "Mancow," in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul. Apparently, the experience went pretty badly -- "Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop," according to NBC Chicago.

"The average person can take this for 14 seconds," Marine Sergeant Clay South told his audience before he was waterboarded on air. "He's going to wiggle, he's going to scream, he's going to wish he never did this."

Mancow was set on a 7-foot long table with his legs elevated and his feet tied.

"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face...I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "

The upshot? "It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow told listeners. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back...It was instantaneous...and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."

"Absolutely. I mean that's drowning," he added later. "It is the feeling of drowning."

"If I knew it was gonna be this bad, I would not have done it," he said.

at least he had the balls to step up and try it unlike that pussy hannity.

The_Limit
05-24-2009, 02:03 PM
the why did conservative host mancow last all of 6 seconds and cry that it WAS torture?

Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before saying its torture...


Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller decided he'd get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn't torture.

It didn't turn out that way. "Mancow," in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul. Apparently, the experience went pretty badly -- "Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop," according to NBC Chicago.

"The average person can take this for 14 seconds," Marine Sergeant Clay South told his audience before he was waterboarded on air. "He's going to wiggle, he's going to scream, he's going to wish he never did this."

Mancow was set on a 7-foot long table with his legs elevated and his feet tied.

"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face...I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "

The upshot? "It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow told listeners. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back...It was instantaneous...and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."

"Absolutely. I mean that's drowning," he added later. "It is the feeling of drowning."

"If I knew it was gonna be this bad, I would not have done it," he said.

at least he had the balls to step up and try it unlike that pussy hannity.

Only a hyper partisan nutcase would think water boarding is not torture.

By the way, link the story please.

MintJulep
05-24-2009, 03:10 PM
Both of these are "bugs"...


http://www.dpughphoto.com/images/ladybug%20durham%2050305.JPG http://biology.clc.uc.edu/graphics/taxonomy/animals/arthropoda/arachnida/black%20widow/JSC%209911%20Black%20Widow%20belly%202.JPG

As the ladybug is to the black widow, so is waterboarding to what has historically been called torture

MintJulep
05-24-2009, 03:15 PM
Furthermore, the difference between torture and interrogation is clear; torture is the desire to inflict harm, whereas with waterboarding the intention is the extract information.

The Professor
05-24-2009, 03:18 PM
yes, intention, ie, motive, plays a big role

and we've already covered this ground

round and round we go on dcj

dizzy, dizzy folk

move on, all

and say hi to mancow for me

LOL!

cliff

Life_Long_Dem!
05-24-2009, 03:20 PM
Only a hyper partisan nutcase would think water boarding is not torture.

By the way, link the story please.
as far as links there are multiple ones out there, go to politico.com or rawstory.com and do a search.

The_Limit
05-24-2009, 05:40 PM
Furthermore, the difference between torture and interrogation is clear; torture is the desire to inflict harm, whereas with waterboarding the intention is the extract information.

The only thing 'clear' is the absurdity of your propositions. One can use torture to extract information. In fact, in 99 per cent of state sponsored torture cases, the intention is precisely to torture in order extract valuable information.

The only thing I can extrapolate from your sentence is that interrogation and torture have two different definitions if one was to look both words up in the dictionary. Which, is quite obvious.

You've provided nothing else.

The_Limit
05-24-2009, 05:44 PM
yes, intention, ie, motive, plays a big role



Wrong, very wrong. Especially in this case.