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disrupter
05-19-2009, 08:43 PM
It turns out that in secret briefings to Bush from Rumsfeld's Pentagon the Iraq invasion was treated as a religious crusade.

They were each covered with photos from Iraq accompanied by a quote from the bible rationalizing this atrocity.

We have heard how atheists, & other religious faiths were badgered & abused by the christian religious fanatics in the US military.

Biblical Quotes Said to Adorn Pentagon Reports

By DAVID E. SANGER
Published: May 17, 2009
WASHINGTON — A series of cover sheets for

intelligence reports

written for Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld and other senior Pentagon officials during the early days of the war in Iraq in 2003

were adorned with biblical quotations,

and appeared Sunday, six years later, on the Web site of GQ magazine.

The daily briefings were called the “Worldwide Intelligence Update,” one of several intelligence reports compiled overnight and presented in a folder for Mr. Rumsfeld and other officials as they came to work.

In the selection of the cover sheets that GQ placed on its Web site, photographs of soldiers praying or in action on the sands of Iraq were overlaid with quotations like this one from Isaiah: “Their arrows are sharp, all their bows are strung; their horses’ hoofs seem like flint, their chariot wheels are like a whirlwind.”

Another, showing a tank at sunset, had this quotation from Ephesians: “Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.”

The accompanying article, written by Robert Draper, the author of a book about George W. Bush that was published in the last year of his presidency, suggested that Mr. Rumsfeld often delivered the briefings “by hand, to the White House.” But several former officials said Sunday that they doubted that Mr. Bush regularly saw the Pentagon briefing, which was considered both less complete and less sensitive than the president’s daily brief, the compilation of overnight and long-term intelligence assessments prepared for the president, and delivered every morning.

Lawrence Di Rita, the Pentagon spokesman during Mr. Rumsfeld’s time as secretary of defense, said that he had no recollection of the biblical briefs, but that he doubted the famously acerbic and sometimes cranky secretary would have tolerated them for long, much less shared them with Mr. Bush.

“The suggestion that Rumsfeld would have used these reports to somehow curry favor over at the White House is pretty laughable,” Mr. Di Rita said. “He bristled anytime people put quotes or something extraneous on the reports he wanted to read.”

Mr. Rumsfeld’s reputation at the Pentagon was as a strong ideologue, but not as someone motivated by religious convictions.

The GQ article reports that the cover sheets were thought up by a general who worked on the Joint Staff, and that they replaced

humorous covers that had been created in the prelude to the war.

[In other words they LAUGHED about an Iraq invasion as some kind of JOKE,

& how they tricked the American people with their lies.].

The magazine reported that some Pentagon officials were concerned that, if the cover sheets — which were marked “Top Secret” — were ever leaked, they could be interpreted as a suggestion that the war was religiously driven, a battle against Islam. But those officials were not named in the article, and a number of former Pentagon officials interviewed Sunday said they had no memory of seeing the illustrations or quotations.

Still, the publication of the cover sheets may raise more questions about the proper role of religion in the military, and whether a Christian-influenced culture, rather than a neutral one, permeated some corners of the military.

The issue flared at the Air Force Academy four years ago, when the football coach posted a locker room banner for “Team Jesus,” and there have been lawsuits against the Pentagon concerning military retreats at off-base churches, or the displays of crucifixes at military chapels in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2005, the Pentagon’s inspector general recommended “corrective action” against Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, the deputy under secretary of defense for intelligence, who, in appearances before evangelical groups, likened the war against Islamic militants to a battle against Satan.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/18/us/18rumsfeld.html?hp

We must round up & arrest all these religious freak traitors of America & its values,

including a freedom of & from religion.

They are disrespecters of our US Constitution & our Founding Forefathers.

They are also liars who broke their oath to uphold the US Constitution.

Military Religious Traitors of the Pentagon
treat the trust of the United States People as meaningless.

Maybe you can shove a knife in their ribs to teach them some meaning.

Hog Trash
05-19-2009, 08:46 PM
It is a "religious war" on the part of the terrorists and a war for survival on the part of the rest of us.

disrupter
05-19-2009, 08:48 PM
So you believe the same way the terrorists do?

Yeah i knew it, you are just another religious fundamentalist terrorist.

foxbaron
05-19-2009, 11:48 PM
Our war on terror is/was a religious war from day one and always has been. The problem is no one is willing to admit that fact (publicly). Accept that fact and then fight the damn thing to win it.

They are attacking us on religious grounds and are using their religion as justification for their attacks.

Maybe it is time Mecca and Medina ceased to exist.

mwillman
05-20-2009, 12:48 AM
You want to fight a religious war with Muslims.

Are you fucking serious.

How very unchristian of you.

ROdger Right
05-20-2009, 01:13 AM
Cry Cry Cry.
All you silly people do. We went in and beyond that we cant leave because then we'd be blamed for muslims killing muslims. I know keeping people from killing each other may seem unchristian to you but for the rest of us it seems like a worthy cause.

mwillman
05-20-2009, 01:26 AM
I am just glad you middle ages sociopaths have no say in this nation.

ROdger Right
05-20-2009, 01:31 AM
Oh, Here we go. Gitmo stays open without plan says senators.

As we continue to have over a 100k troops in iraq and with no plan to withdrawl all troops we will continue to help iraq thrive under its new government.

Middle Aged? Who>
You naive little boy.

mwillman
05-20-2009, 01:35 AM
Your the ones claiming its some fucking crusade so yes Middle Ages.

ROdger Right
05-20-2009, 01:44 AM
Thats so stupid and noone is fighting a religous war seeing how it would be unconstituional. We deal with most of the countries and only have gone to war with 2.

Anyways if it was I would could consider it a total failure seeing how we extincted them indians pretty good.

mwillman
05-20-2009, 01:48 AM
I guess you didn't see Rumsfeld's briefings to bush.

When you have you will understand the thread.

ROdger Right
05-20-2009, 02:00 AM
That didnt seem all to concrete to say the least.

You mean when he showed him some pictures with captions that presumably could have been created at anytime that never said it was our christian duty to purify these people?

mwillman
05-20-2009, 02:16 AM
No it was the briefings where Rumsfeld used Bible quotes on the title of the briefings.

Being that Rumsfeld is not a religious man the only conclusion can be that he was using bushs religion to give his arguments for going to war in Iraq the kind of sound that bush liked namely religious bullshit.

ROdger Right
05-20-2009, 02:27 AM
Not as if we massacred these people at any rate.

foxbaron
05-20-2009, 10:02 PM
You want to fight a religious war with Muslims.

Are you fucking serious.

How very unchristian of you.


We are fighting a religious war whether you want to admit it or not.
AND, we are already fighting Muslims.
AND, why does recognizing this make me unchristian?

mwillman
05-20-2009, 10:08 PM
We are not fighting a religious war.

Who do you think taught those cave dwellers how to use religion to attract new recruits. Thats right Rumsfeld and Bush senior with the CIA. Who do you think taught Al -Quada to use weapons and explosives. Thats right the neo cons that lead this nation into our latest financial crisis and a useless war.

Religion is just an excuse, Its right wingers fault we even have an Al - Quada so I think its about time you got off your fucking high horsed and basiclly just shut the fuck up.

You have done enough already it will be years before the fucking mess is cleaned up and its mostly your fucking fault.

disrupter
05-21-2009, 08:45 PM
I am an American & i am NOT a 'Christian'.

Christ had some high ideals, but most of what calls itself 'Christianity' is a putrefaction & refutation of his humanity & his mercy.

I am an agnostic/atheist who sees the nobility & inspiration of Christ & the lilliputian wannabes who corrupt everything they touch.

Find the essence of uplift & inspiration & drop all the foul baggage that has built up in organized religions.

Jesus was a Liberal.

God is a psycho, mass-murdering barbarian.

ROdger Right
05-21-2009, 09:15 PM
disrupter dont act like the people that god kills dont deserve it. If they were good then a better place awaits and if they wearnt then he made earth a better place.

mwillman I never knew that we paid the russians to invade afghanistan. you fucking retard. Stick to sucking cock and leave this board.

mwillman
05-21-2009, 09:23 PM
disrupter dont act like the people that god kills dont deserve it. If they were good then a better place awaits and if they wearnt then he made earth a better place.

mwillman I never knew that we paid the russians to invade afghanistan. you fucking retard. Stick to sucking cock and leave this board.

No nimrod we paided Bin Laden to fight Russia. We trained him in how to recruit young fanatics. We taught him how to make explosives and IDEs.

No nimrod our enemy exists and is dangerous becuase neo cons taught him how to be our enemy.

ROdger Right
05-21-2009, 11:52 PM
No nimrod we paided Bin Laden to fight Russia. We trained him in how to recruit young fanatics. We taught him how to make explosives and IDEs.

No nimrod our enemy exists and is dangerous becuase neo cons taught him how to be our enemy.

Then why did they make a movie about Charlie Wilson:lmao2: :lmao2:

Who was a liberal if I might add.
Play the blame game somewhere else like a school yard.

mwillman
05-22-2009, 12:18 AM
Yea, I didn't realize you thought movies were reality.

Its ok just take your pills and it will be alright.

ROdger Right
05-22-2009, 12:21 AM
Aww the partisian hack needs a diaper change?

mwillman
05-22-2009, 12:30 AM
Please you fucking right wingers, you create the fucking enemy then we need to spend trillion of dollars cleaning up your mistakes and you act like you are trying to save us.

Its a fucking joke.

MintJulep
05-22-2009, 12:45 AM
Please you fucking right wingers, you create the fucking enemy then we need to spend trillion of dollars cleaning up your mistakes and you act like you are trying to save us.

Its a fucking joke.How did we create the enemy?

You do realize Islamofacism has existed for decades, no?

mwillman
05-22-2009, 01:34 AM
You really should learn you history.

When Russia invaded Afganistan it was our CIA who taught Bin Laden and his cronies how to use religion to recruit members. They taught them how to use weapons and all they needed to become the terrorists we are fighting today.

If it weren't for neocons during Reagan era we wouldn't even have an al-quada.

You guys are so fucking war mongering that you create most the enemies we end up having to fight. Hell you even built up Sadam originally.

Smurf-Herder
05-22-2009, 01:51 AM
You really should learn you history.

When Russia invaded Afganistan it was our CIA who taught Bin Laden and his cronies how to use religion to recruit members. They taught them how to use weapons and all they needed to become the terrorists we are fighting today.

If it weren't for neocons during Reagan era we wouldn't even have an al-quada.

You guys are so fucking war mongering that you create most the enemies we end up having to fight. Hell you even built up Sadam originally.

Did it ever occur to you that alliances change over time?

Like when Russia and China were our allies against Germany and Japan; and now Germany and Japan are our allies against Russia and China.

Are you saying we should have let the Soviets have Afghanistan ... and use that as a stepping stone to threaten the middle east from the east? Remember, back in the '80s that was a real threat - the Soviets invading the entire region.


BTW, please give a reference for "our CIA who taught Bin Laden and his cronies how to use religion to recruit members."

That's the first time I've ever heard that part.

mwillman
05-22-2009, 11:18 AM
Did it ever occur to you that the allies the right have chosen over and over again turn on us and become our enemies doing more damage to our nation then our enemies.

Sounds like bad choices to me.

http://www.geocities.com/libertystrikesback/afghans.html