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Hog Trash
05-19-2009, 08:30 PM
I think many of us have suspected this for a very long time...Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill
Publishes extensive study on 'Psychological Causes of Political Madness'
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Posted: November 12, 2008
6:33 pm Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.
"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."
While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."
For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.
Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.
"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."
Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
*creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
*augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
*rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494Check out Doctor Rossiter's credentials below in bold print...The Liberal Mind (book)
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By: Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.
Are Liberals Out of Their Minds? Why do modern liberals think and act as they do? The radical left's politics and its destructive effects on our basic freedoms have provoked many to speculate on what makes these people tick. "The Liberal Mind" answers these questions. This book is the first systematic analysis of the political madness that now threatens to destroy the West's greatest achievement: the American dream of civilized liberty.
In his penetrating analysis, Dr. Rossiter reveals modern liberalism's assaults on:
*The freedom of adults to make good lives for themselves by cooperating with others
*The ability of families to raise children to be self-reliant and mutual
*The morals, rights and laws that protect our freedoms
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"Modern liberalism's irrationality can only be understood as the product of psychopathology. So extravagant are the patterns of thinking, emoting, behaving and relating that characterize the liberal mind that its relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders of the psyche." "The Liberal Mind" reveals the madness of the modern liberal for what it is: a massive transference neurosis acted out in the world's political arenas, with devastating effects on the institutions of liberty.
The author is an MD who received his medical and psychiatric training at the UNiversity of Chicago and served for two years as a psychiatrist in the U.S. Army. He is currently in private practice in Chicago.
Dr. Rossiter is board certified in both general and forensic psychiatry and has diagnosed and treated mental disorders for more than 40 years. He has been retained by numerous public offices, courts and private attorneys as a forensic psychiatrist and has consultted in more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases in both state and federal jurisdictions.
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mwillman
05-19-2009, 08:33 PM
Well I guess the majority of this nation is mentally ill then.
It must be sad being the only sane person in a crazy world.
Or maybe your just crazy and so all the sane people seem crazy to you.
SimonDavid
05-19-2009, 11:00 PM
Educated fools are fools just the same.
A similar commentary made the rounds a few years ago calling conservatives mentally ill, with a lot of scientific mumbo jumbo as rationale.
I am sure that was bought by the conservatives just as enthusiastically as this report.
SeniorChief
05-20-2009, 07:18 AM
It doesn't take a Phd to write about something that's so obvious.
Richard Poor
05-20-2009, 07:40 AM
Educated fools are fools just the same.
A similar commentary made the rounds a few years ago calling conservatives mentally ill, with a lot of scientific mumbo jumbo as rationale.
I am sure that was bought by the conservatives just as enthusiastically as this report.
Yes, but unlike that one, this one makes sense. Lol.
Richard Poor
05-20-2009, 07:41 AM
It doesn't take a Phd to write about something that's so obvious.
LMAO :lmao2:
SimonDavid
05-20-2009, 09:56 AM
Why is it the insane laugh so freely...oh, to be so easily entertained.
SeniorChief
05-20-2009, 09:58 AM
Why is it the insane laugh so freely...oh, to be so easily entertained.
Don't know many Liberals who laugh, or who have any sense of humor for that matter. They seem miserable and angry all the time.
SimonDavid
05-20-2009, 10:12 AM
Don't know many Liberals who laugh, or who have any sense of humor for that matter. They seem miserable and angry all the time.
Here is your exception. Pleasure...well, not really...to meet you.
Just not in a dark alley.
Crist Ero
05-20-2009, 12:00 PM
if liberals are mentally ill.
I'd rather be crazy, than stupid.
PS: i wrote a report too. Conservatives on the verge of retardation. an expose.
SeniorChief
05-20-2009, 12:02 PM
if liberals are mentally ill.
I'd rather be crazy, than stupid.
PS: i wrote a report too. Conservatives on the verge of retardation. an expose.
Did you just surf in from a porn site? Two posts and you're already on a Liberal roll.
Crist Ero
05-20-2009, 12:04 PM
Did you just surf in from a porn site? Two posts and you're already on a Liberal roll.
PORN SIte? Who do you thing I am? Ted Haggard?
Hog Trash
05-31-2009, 12:55 PM
Educated fools are fools just the same.
A similar commentary made the rounds a few years ago calling conservatives mentally ill, with a lot of scientific mumbo jumbo as rationale.
I am sure that was bought by the conservatives just as enthusiastically as this report.Did the commentators that "made the rounds a few years ago calling conservatives mentally ill" posses the credintials or neutrality that Dr. Lyle Rossiter has???
While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56494 This is a legitament opinion from a reputable and qualified doctor based on psychological studies with no consideration too politics.
Being a liberal, you should read and study this with concern instead of mindlessly blowing it off.....Liberals will never learn.
SimonDavid
05-31-2009, 05:29 PM
Did the commentators that "made the rounds a few years ago calling conservatives mentally ill" posses the credintials or neutrality that Dr. Lyle Rossiter has???This is a legitament opinion from a reputable and qualified doctor based on psychological studies with no consideration too politics.
Being a liberal, you should read and study this with concern instead of mindlessly blowing it off.....Liberals will never learn.
Do you believe that "credentials" can be superseded by political dogma?
I submit this...
The Liberal Mind (book)
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By: Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.
Are Liberals Out of Their Minds? Why do modern liberals think and act as they do? The radical left's politics and its destructive effects on our basic freedoms have provoked many to speculate on what makes these people tick. "The Liberal Mind" answers these questions. This book is the first systematic analysis of the political madness that now threatens to destroy the West's greatest achievement: the American dream of civilized liberty.
In his penetrating analysis, Dr. Rossiter reveals modern liberalism's assaults on:
*The freedom of adults to make good lives for themselves by cooperating with others
*The ability of families to raise children to be self-reliant and mutual
*The morals, rights and laws that protect our freedoms
...is political dogma masquerading as "science", exposed by the very terms used in the description. That is "neutrality"?
From the good doctor's book comes this stunning insight:
Certain neurotic themes are dominant in the radical liberal mind’s perceptions of the world. All of them portray the citizen as a suffering child who is victimized, helpless and in need of rescue. All are evident in various liberal platforms. They represent the liberal mind’s transference of childhood dynamics into the world of adult relationships.
These and related themes of deprivation and neglect, exploitation and abuse, domination and control, blaming and punishing, caring and caretaking, protection and security, rescuing and nurturing—all are the radical liberal mind’s unconscious projections of early childhood dynamics transferred into the political arenas of adult life. These projections define the transference neurosis of the radical liberal mind ...
From this we learn that "liberals", one and all, from FDR to the Kennedys to Al Franken, have been "deprived, neglected, exploited, abused, blamed and punished".
That, my hogtrashy friend, is poppycock.
My point, one from which I will be happy to exempt you, however, was not "conservatives" are themselves mentally ill (although it was a based on a (Bush) government funded study apparently done by the American Psychological Associations' Psychological Bulletin in 2003), but rather that stories of this sort make the rounds periodically.
doctordog
05-31-2009, 09:26 PM
Here is your exception. Pleasure...well, not really...to meet you.
Just not in a dark alley.
Couldn't control yourself, huh?:disbelief:
Hog Trash
05-31-2009, 09:51 PM
Do you believe that "credentials" can be superseded by political dogma?
I submit this...
...is political dogma masquerading as "science", exposed by the very terms used in the description. That is "neutrality"?
From the good doctor's book comes this stunning insight:
From this we learn that "liberals", one and all, from FDR to the Kennedys to Al Franken, have been "deprived, neglected, exploited, abused, blamed and punished".
That, my hogtrashy friend, is poppycock.
My point, one from which I will be happy to exempt you, however, was not "conservatives" are themselves mentally ill (although it was a based on a (Bush) government funded study apparently done by the American Psychological Associations' Psychological Bulletin in 2003), but rather that stories of this sort make the rounds periodically.What you have posted is a 3rd party commentary of Dr Rossiter and his findings.
They have nothing to do with the motivations for his opinions, so what's your point?
Hog Trash
05-31-2009, 10:01 PM
My point, one from which I will be happy to exempt you, however, was not "conservatives" are themselves mentally ill (although it was a based on a (Bush) government funded study apparently done by the American Psychological Associations' Psychological Bulletin in 2003), but rather that stories of this sort make the rounds periodically.I never make excuses for George W, the reason being, I like many others do not consider him to be a conservative.
He is a big government, big spending, fuck the constitution politician, more like one of your tax and spend yahoos.
SimonDavid
06-01-2009, 12:27 AM
What you have posted is a 3rd party commentary of Dr Rossiter and his findings.
They have nothing to do with the motivations for his opinions, so what's your point?
No, part of what I posted were his own words from his book. His "motivations" for his opinions are clearly completely political, not "science" since his absurd claims are unprovable. "Liberals" were not, in the main, "deprived, neglected, exploited, abused, blamed and punished" as children, any more than "conservatives".
Look, I understand this kind of nonsense echoes in the caverns of the conservative brain, but that does not mean it has any merit.
SimonDavid
06-01-2009, 12:29 AM
Couldn't control yourself, huh?:disbelief:
What, you did not see the humor?
We should all continue to believe every thing on World Net Daily. :banghead:
SeniorChief
06-01-2009, 08:20 AM
We should all continue to believe every thing on World Net Daily. :banghead:
World Net Daily carried this piece on the book titled, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness."
If you don't like the fact that World Net Daily carried the piece, then simply go out and buy the book and read about the Liberal mind on your own time.
SimonDavid
06-01-2009, 12:12 PM
World Net Daily carried this piece on the book titled, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness."
If you don't like the fact that World Net Daily carried the piece, then simply go out and buy the book and read about the Liberal mind on your own time.
You are correct, it is not WorldNetDaily that is at issue, but rather the swill and nonsense filled tome which should be denounced, certainly without buying it, however.
MintJulep
06-01-2009, 12:14 PM
What is a tome? :lmao2:
SimonDavid
06-01-2009, 01:38 PM
What is a tome? :lmao2:
Definition of tome (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tome).
Smurf-Herder
06-01-2009, 06:58 PM
Definition of tome (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tome).
Gawd!
You be so durned articulate.
We'uns be vewy impwethed. :D
MintJulep
06-01-2009, 07:05 PM
Gawd!
You be so durned articulate.
It's called bloviation. :lmao2:
SimonDavid
06-01-2009, 07:20 PM
Gawd!
You be so durned articulate.
We'uns be vewy impwethed. :D
Sorry, did I use a word you edumacated cons were unfamiliar with?
Get used to it.
MintJulep
06-01-2009, 07:22 PM
Sorry, did I use a word you edumacated cons were unfamiliar with?
Get used to it.That's fine, just keep it pithy. :taunt:
Smurf-Herder
06-01-2009, 08:09 PM
Sorry, did I use a word you edumacated cons were unfamiliar with?
Get used to it.
Why are you using words that I haven't even seen used in anything, from any source anywhere, ever?
Does it make you feel superior?
Do you need that, deep down inside, to compensate in some way?
doctordog
06-01-2009, 08:10 PM
Why are you using words that I haven't even seen used in anything, from any source anywhere, ever?
Does it make you feel superior?
Do you need that, deep down inside, to compensate in some way?
he has a man crush on you Smurfy!:lmao2:
Smurf-Herder
06-01-2009, 08:35 PM
he has a man crush on you Smurfy!:lmao2:
Yuck! :ugho:
I hope he points his oratory in another direction. I don't want him bloviating all over my screen.
It's a bitch to clean up.
doctordog
06-01-2009, 08:40 PM
Yuck! :ugho:
I hope he points his oratory in another direction. I don't want him bloviating all over my screen.
It's a bitch to clean up.
He probably slams his tome shut at just the right time:lmao2:
mwillman
06-01-2009, 08:45 PM
Why are you using words that I haven't even seen used in anything, from any source anywhere, ever?
Does it make you feel superior?
Do you need that, deep down inside, to compensate in some way?
If you think tome is never used then you probable haven't read much.
Tom Clancy doesn't count.
The fact that you people didn't even know what it meant tells me more then all the crap you spew daily.
MintJulep
06-01-2009, 08:48 PM
He probably slams his tome shut at just the right time:lmao2::lmao2: :lmao2:
Smurf-Herder
06-01-2009, 09:28 PM
If you think tome is never used then you probable haven't read much.
Tom Clancy doesn't count.
The fact that you people didn't even know what it meant tells me more then all the crap you spew daily.
Oh, so people use that specific word a lot, do they?
Like it matters? Of all the least common words, you decide people are idiots because of a specific word, hardly ever used.
You, of all people, who can't understand some of the most basic concepts we argue with you over.
MintJulep
06-01-2009, 11:40 PM
If you think tome is never used then you probable haven't read much.
Tom Clancy doesn't count.
The fact that you people didn't even know what it meant tells me more then all the crap you spew daily.I know the difference between two and to.
How you like dem apples?
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mwillman
06-02-2009, 01:31 AM
Nice try terrorist lover Lady,
but my not caring about spelling and your not knowing a pretty simple word like tome is all I need to know. You lose :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
mwillman
06-02-2009, 01:42 AM
Oh, so people use that specific word a lot, do they?
Like it matters? Of all the least common words, you decide people are idiots because of a specific word, hardly ever used.
You, of all people, who can't understand some of the most basic concepts we argue with you over.
I understand every foolish thing you say but I realize that they are often so filled with false premise and false logic that they aren't worth arguing.
If you went to a library once in a while or read a few tomes you might know a word like tome but more then that your opinions would be based on something more then emotional ignorance and greed.
Hog Trash
06-02-2009, 02:36 AM
No, part of what I posted were his own words from his book. His "motivations" for his opinions are clearly completely political, not "science" since his absurd claims are unprovable.I was disputing only the part that wasn't his words.
His opinions are definately expert, validated by his credintials and his motivations are disputable only by those afflicted with his diagnosis.
"Liberals" were not, in the main, "deprived, neglected, exploited, abused, blamed and punished" as children, any more than "conservatives".
Look, I understand this kind of nonsense echoes in the caverns of the conservative brain, but that does not mean it has any merit.You apparently don't understand what you read or you make adjustments to fit the ideological image in your mind.
I'm not sure which is sadder.......Do the best you can with what little you have and good luck my little Obamanite.
SimonDavid
06-04-2009, 12:33 PM
I was disputing only the part that wasn't his words.
His opinions are definately expert, validated by his credintials and his motivations are disputable only by those afflicted with his diagnosis.
You apparently don't understand what you read or you make adjustments to fit the ideological image in your mind.
I'm not sure which is sadder.......Do the best you can with what little you have and good luck my little Obamanite.
I read his hypothesis that "liberals" were abused as children; as absurd a claim as any made anywhere. His "credentials" include such claims, and are therefore suspect.
SimonDavid
06-04-2009, 12:40 PM
Why are you using words that I haven't even seen used in anything, from any source anywhere, ever?
Does it make you feel superior?
Do you need that, deep down inside, to compensate in some way?
Hmmm, were you not threatening to "clamp down" on "personal attacks" in another thread?
I write as I write and use words which I enjoy using. Those capable of keeping up may follow what I say, those who are not may do as they will.
It makes no difference to me. However it is lamentable (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lamentable) you are so intimidated (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intimidated) by words with which you are initially (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/initially) unfamiliar.
Hog Trash
06-04-2009, 01:36 PM
Certain neurotic themes are dominant in the radical liberal mind’s perceptions of the world. All of them portray the citizen as a suffering child who is victimized, helpless and in need of rescue. All are evident in various liberal platforms. They represent the liberal mind’s transference of childhood dynamics into the world of adult relationships.
These and related themes of deprivation and neglect, exploitation and abuse, domination and control, blaming and punishing, caring and caretaking, protection and security, rescuing and nurturing—all are the radical liberal mind’s unconscious projections of early childhood dynamics transferred into the political arenas of adult life. These projections define the transference neurosis of the radical liberal mind ... From the excerpt above you have falsely concluded:...
From this we learn that "liberals", one and all, from FDR to the Kennedys to Al Franken, have been "deprived, neglected, exploited, abused, blamed and punished".
That, my hogtrashy friend, is poppycock.
My point, one from which I will be happy to exempt you, however, was not "conservatives" are themselves mentally ill (although it was a based on a (Bush) government funded study apparently done by the American Psychological Associations' Psychological Bulletin in 2003), but rather that stories of this sort make the rounds periodically.I read his hypothesis that "liberals" were abused as children; as absurd a claim as any made anywhere. His "credentials" include such claims, and are therefore suspect.You have selected a few of the doctors words as examples to twist the meaning of what Dr Rossiter actually says.
I don't play word games!
What he actually said was...These and related themes of deprivation and neglect, exploitation and abuse, domination and control, blaming and punishing, caring and caretaking, protection and security, rescuing and nurturing—all are the radical liberal mind’s unconscious projections of early childhood dynamics transferred into the political arenas of adult life.If you can't understand what he is really saying, then I am wasting my time on you.
If you are truely educated, it does not translate too intelligence....I am both my little liberal friend.
One other thing....I don't believe JFK could be considered a liberal.....A 1950's/60's era Democrat, yes.
In those days a liberal would be considered a socialist, and burned at the stake!
doctordog
06-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Hmmm, were you not threatening to "clamp down" on "personal attacks" in another thread?
I write as I write and use words which I enjoy using. Those capable of keeping up may follow what I say, those who are not may do as they will.
It makes no difference to me. However it is lamentable (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lamentable) you are so intimidated (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intimidated) by words with which you are initially (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/initially) unfamiliar.
Smurfy, the writing of this one works better for him than viagra would for you or me. Let him have his words if it makes him feel smarter, bigger, or more confident. Most of his post tell us all we need to know about him.
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