Jessie Ventura smacks down Hannity and Hasselbeck

[bairdi]

Wow, Jessie smacks down these two right wing wackos fairly easily.


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[SimonDavid]

Indeed! Well done.

[Mr. Blue]

I've always like Jesse Ventura and wish more people like him were in Washington.

[mwillman]

I've always like Jesse Ventura and wish more people like him were in Washington.

I agree,


I just wish he had brought up water boarding, Ventura has gone through it during SERE training for the SEALs. Hannity said he would go through it for charity and now a month later he just pretends like he never said it.

[Mr. Blue]

The thing about Jesse, whether you agree or disagree with him, you know he believes what he's saying. That goes a long way in my books because there's too many people in Washington looking at poll numbers going...wait, should I say that? How will the public view me if I do?

So, agree or disagree, Jesse is just who he is and that's an admirable quality.

[SeniorChief]

Wow! He's angry - and out of touch. Bush this, Bush that. Perfect Liberal.

He'd fit in well here with some of you left-winged kooks.

Sean, on the other hand, calm, cool.

I call this Hannity 1, Ventura 0

[Hog Trash]

Considering Ventura is a large intimidating man with a deep authorative voice, Elizabeth held her ground quite well.

In fact she sits outnumbered in a nest of ruthless hard core hollywood lefties every day and holds her ground.

I honestly don't know that much about her but I hope she is more of a conservative than a republican.

[Mr. Blue]

Wow! He's angry - and out of touch. Bush this, Bush that. Perfect Liberal.

He'd fit in well here with some of you left-winged kooks.

Sean, on the other hand, calm, cool.

I call this Hannity 1, Ventura 0

He has a lot of Libertarian ideas regarding government spending as well. Problem is people should be mad at Bush, should be mad at Obama, should be mad at the Republicans, should be mad at the Democrats, and I'd venture a guess that Ventura will do just that if 4 years pass and Obama turns out as bad as Bush.

There's different types of people that will objects / support Obama...it reads something like this:

1. The diehard democrat/liberal and the guy can do no wrong.
2. The people willing to give him a chance for a few years (I think Ventura falls into that group).
3. People willing to give him a little more time but think he's doing a crappy job at the moment (I fall into this group)
4. People that gave him a 100 days and sure he sucks completely and will Tea Party like it's 1773
5. People that were calling him Hitler the second he got into office.

[Zebulon0351]

5. People that were calling him Hitler the second he got into office.


They were calling him Hitler the second it looked like he may win.

[Mr. Blue]

They were calling him Hitler the second it looked like he may win.

That's true...I wanted to give them more credit and waited until he got elected, but you're right, it started beforehand.

[SimonDavid]

He has a lot of Libertarian ideas regarding government spending as well. Problem is people should be mad at Bush, should be mad at Obama, should be mad at the Republicans, should be mad at the Democrats, and I'd venture a guess that Ventura will do just that if 4 years pass and Obama turns out as bad as Bush.

There's different types of people that will objects / support Obama...it reads something like this:

1. The diehard democrat/liberal and the guy can do no wrong.
2. The people willing to give him a chance for a few years (I think Ventura falls into that group).
3. People willing to give him a little more time but think he's doing a crappy job at the moment (I fall into this group)
4. People that gave him a 100 days and sure he sucks completely and will Tea Party like it's 1773
5. People that were calling him Hitler the second he got into office.
I am in group 2; and I believe on his worst day he is superior to Bush, one of, if not the, worst presidents of the past hundred years.
I suspect I have little else in common with Mr. Ventura, however.

[SeniorChief]

I am in group 2; and I believe on his worst day he is superior to Bush, one of, if not the, worst presidents of the past hundred years.


You missed Nixon, Carter and Clinton I take it.

[SimonDavid]

You missed Nixon, Carter and Clinton I take it.
No, I lived through all three. Problematic though they may have been they do not hold a sparkler, to say nothing of a candle, to Bush.

[SeniorChief]

No, I lived through all three. Problematic though they may have been they do not hold a sparkler, to say nothing of a candle, to Bush.

Yeah, sure.

[SimonDavid]

Yeah, sure.
Indeed.......

[doctordog]

No, I lived through all three. Problematic though they may have been they do not hold a sparkler, to say nothing of a candle, to Bush.

You must have been in a coma during carter:banghead:

[Crist Ero]

You must have been in a coma during carter:banghead:

carter for all his faults, pales in comparison, to the levels of stupidity of the bush administration.

[MintJulep]

carter for all his faults, pales in comparison, to the levels of stupidity of the bush administration.If you believe that, you really need to brush up on your history. Carter was the worst President ever.

[Crist Ero]

If you believe that, you really need to brush up on your history. Carter was the worst President ever.

try reading up on harding, coolidge, and hoover and the great deppresion before you make up your mind on bad presidents... then look at the man, per say Bush, who turned a surplus into debt, before you judge on bad presidents.

[MintJulep]

try reading up on harding, coolidge, and hoover and the great deppresion before you make up your mind on bad presidents... then look at the man, per say Bush, who turned a surplus into debt, before you judge on bad presidents.Put it this way, the misery index under Carter was the highest in history.

[SimonDavid]

Put it this way, the misery index under Carter was the highest in history.
And misery itself highest under Bush.

[Binky]

I would rather have had Ventura for prez rather than Bush or Obama. At least with Ventura you know where you stand. And since he's an independant rather than a demopug, he's more apt to speak up when there's some not so nice things going on. I like the guy. And I happen to agree with him. Obama inherited this huge mess that was created on Bushs watch. And it is far too early to slam judgements at OB when he's only been in office four months.

Good for Jesse for speaking out. I would imagine he isn't liked a whole lot in DC. Partly because he's highly opinionated. Partly because he was a wrestler. And partly because they can't pull the wool over his eyes and pretend such and such didn't happen.

[doctordog]

try reading up on harding, coolidge, and hoover and the great deppresion before you make up your mind on bad presidents... then look at the man, per say Bush, who turned a surplus into debt, before you judge on bad presidents.

The surplus you speak of was gained by cutting the DOD in half and leaving our nation vulnerable to 9/11. Someone has to pick up the slack when the liberals are in office and party with no thought for tomorrow.

[MintJulep]

And misery itself highest under Bush.Only if you were a BDS patient......

or a terrorist. :)

[Crist Ero]

The surplus you speak of was gained by cutting the DOD in half and leaving our nation vulnerable to 9/11. Someone has to pick up the slack when the liberals are in office and party with no thought for tomorrow.


9/11 was happened under a conservative president, that failed to read memos, and defend his nation.

[SimonDavid]

Only if you were a BDS patient......

or a terrorist. :)
Oh, paralysis humor, marvelous. And equating them with terrorists, no less.
So Christopher Reeve = Mohammed Atta. Bush Cultism dies hard.
To the list I would add a middle class citizen with a 401K to which one had contributed for twenty years, families of servicemen, citizens of New Orleans, owners of homes whose value dropped like so many old men on a Cheney quail hunt, anyone with a brain who wants national leadership with intelligence and comprehension of complex issues...the list goes on, but I am a busy fellow.

[SeniorChief]

9/11 was happened under a conservative president, that failed to read memos, and defend his nation.


Memos?
Do you have links to these?
Of course you don't.

You're an idiot.

[MintJulep]

Oh, paralysis humor, marvelous. And equating them with terrorists, no less.
So Christopher Reeve = Mohammed Atta. Bush Cultism dies hard.Are you completely daft?

BDS = Bush Derangement Syndrome.

[SimonDavid]

Are you completely daft?

BDS = Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Also: (BDS) (lumbar disc hernia or stable spinal trauma).

[foxbaron]

Wow! He's angry - and out of touch. Bush this, Bush that. Perfect Liberal.

He'd fit in well here with some of you left-winged kooks.

Sean, on the other hand, calm, cool.

I call this Hannity 1, Ventura 0


Ventura is definitely out of touch. He got dropped on his head one time too many during his wrestling career.

I had great hopes for this man when he ran for Governor, simply because he was a former Navy Seal. Thought that finally here was a guy that would take no B.S. and would hold people's feet to the fire. He was a guy who had been there, done that and got the T-shirt.

He was pretty damn conservative until he got elected. What happened? This was a man that could have been a kick ass President some day.

[MintJulep]

Also: (BDS) (lumbar disc hernia or stable spinal trauma).Alrighty then....

[doctordog]

9/11 was happened under a conservative president, that failed to read memos, and defend his nation.

Defend with what, your stupid dumb fuck liberal President cut the defense budget in half.

[mwillman]

Defend with what, your stupid dumb fuck liberal President cut the defense budget in half.

Yes becuase all those bases in Germany were going to stop terrorists from flying commercial airliners into the WTC.

Please it was BushCO ignoring the warnings and bad inter agency communications that did more to allow the attack then cutting the military budget which was still focused on cold war weaponry and strategies.

Get a freaking clue would ya. Stop spewing the party line and think for once in your life.

[Frankg]

"IF WATERBOARDING IS OK THAN WHY CAN'T POLICE DO IT TO SUSPECTS SO WE CAN LEARN WHAT THEY KNOW"
Jessie Ventura


OMG Jesse Ventura is such a dumb fuck !

[SeniorChief]

OMG Jesse Ventura is such a dumb fuck !

I wish he'd stay in Mexico - revoke his citizenship, etc.

Dumb fuck yes.

[doctordog]

Yes becuase all those bases in Germany were going to stop terrorists from flying commercial airliners into the WTC.

Please it was BushCO ignoring the warnings and bad inter agency communications that did more to allow the attack then cutting the military budget which was still focused on cold war weaponry and strategies.

Get a freaking clue would ya. Stop spewing the party line and think for once in your life.

The fact is Clinton cut every budget that was linked to intelligence or military funding. He had the perfect opportunity to take out Osama and sent one fucking cruise missile. Clinton was the dumbest fucking President when it came to dealing with terrorist.

[SimonDavid]

OMG Jesse Ventura is such a dumb fuck !
In fact, that is an interesting question. Never mind all the folderol about whether or not these detainees deserve American civil rights; why not waterboard criminal suspects? Why bother with Miranda, Habeas Corpus, et. al., since we must wring out of them whatever information these people have?
Why is Ventura a "dumb fuck" for asking such a question?

[doctordog]

I wish he'd stay in Mexico - revoke his citizenship, etc.

Dumb fuck yes.

These same voters elected Al Franken, another dumb fuck:lmao2:

[SimonDavid]

The fact is Clinton cut every budget that was linked to intelligence or military funding. He had the perfect opportunity to take out Osama and sent one fucking cruise missile. Clinton was the dumbest fucking President when it came to dealing with terrorist.
What if Clinton had taken out Osama? Would that have prevented September 11 or any other terrorist attack, which was inevitable in this country? Or would it have moved the process up in time, either for revenge or further "martyrdom"?
And do not forget that "dumbest fucking president" prevented the Millennium bombing.

[doctordog]

What if Clinton had taken out Osama? Would that have prevented September 11 or any other terrorist attack, which was inevitable in this country? Or would it have moved the process up in time, either for revenge or further "martyrdom"?
And do not forget that "dumbest fucking president" prevented the Millennium bombing.

The only thing that dumb fuck prevented was marital sex in the White House:thumbsup:

[Frankg]

In fact, that is an interesting question. Never mind all the folderol about whether or not these detainees deserve American civil rights; why not waterboard criminal suspects? Why bother with Miranda, Habeas Corpus, et. al., since we must wring out of them whatever information these people have?
Why is Ventura a "dumb fuck" for asking such a question?

SD

Hello??.... big difference between domestic criminals and Al-Queada terrorsts.

Cmon !....don't embarass yourself

[SimonDavid]

SD

Hello??.... big difference between domestic criminals and Al-Queada terrorsts.

Cmon !....don't embarass yourself
What difference? I urge you to avoid embarrassment yourself and answer the question.
What is the difference, in terms of capacity to do evil, between Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden?
Why do we not torture low level Mafia hoods in order to gain information on the Dons?
Why do we not torture low level drug dealers in order to gain information on their superiors?

[SimonDavid]

The only thing that dumb fuck prevented was marital sex in the White House:thumbsup:
No, the Millennium bombing was prevented as well.

[Frankg]

What difference? I urge you to avoid embarrassment yourself and answer the question.
What is the difference, in terms of capacity to do evil, between Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden?
Why do we not torture low level Mafia hoods in order to gain information on the Dons?
Why do we not torture low level drug dealers in order to gain information on their superiors?

Because international terrorsts are not domestic common criminals Simon , that is not a hard concept to grasp.

It was not necessary to waterboard Timothy McVeigh because he confessed to the crime, he was working by himself whereas Ramsi Bihn Al Shibh was connected to Al-Qauda , which classifies him as an enemy combatant and a potential source to provide information on future terrorists attacks.

Not difficult to understand.

[SimonDavid]

Because international terrorsts are not domestic common criminals Simon , that is not a hard concept to grasp.

It was not necessary to waterboard Timothy McVeigh because he confessed to the crime, he was working by himself whereas Ramsi Bihn Al Shibh was connected to Al-Qauda , which classifies him as an enemy combatant and a potential source to provide information on future terrorists attacks.

Not difficult to understand.
I did not ask you about Timothy McVeigh or anyone else who confesses of his own free will. Read my scenarios again and, if you choose, respond to those situations.
International terrorists or not, why not apply the same rules to "domestic common criminals"...after all, the police are attempting to save lives, are they not?

[MintJulep]

I did not ask you about Timothy McVeigh or anyone else who confesses of his own free will. Read my scenarios again and, if you choose, respond to those situations.
International terrorists or not, why not apply the same rules to "domestic common criminals"...after all, the police are attempting to save lives, are they not?The difference is they are not American citizens.

[SimonDavid]

The difference is they are not American citizens.
What difference should that make? We are talking about saving lives, are we not? Regardless of the citizenship of criminals why should we bother with Miranda, Habeas, or any other restriction on obtaining life-saving information from dangerous criminals who are putting lives in danger? Are not saving lives more important than mere law? Oliver North thought so, and I am sure he is on your perverse list of Great Americans. Should we not torture the location of kidnapped children out of the accomplices of the likes of John Wayne Gacy?
What is mere citizenship compared to innocent human lives?

[Smurf-Herder]

No, the Millennium bombing was prevented as well.

You need to thank a border guard on the Canadian border for that. If it weren't for her, he would have gotten through.

[SimonDavid]

You need to thank a border guard on the Canadian border for that. If it weren't for her, he would have gotten through.
On whose watch?
And I do thank her. It is unfortunate the Bush administration did not take its job as seriously as that border guard.