The President of the United States Bows to Saudi King

[Richard Poor]

The President of the United States Bows to Saudi King

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What message has Barack sent to our closest ally? He merely nodded politely to the Queen of England [LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLuLEfVNow)], whose nation has stood with us as brothers before and after the murderous acts of 9/11, yet bowed, with cowardly humility, to the King of Saudi Arabia whose country arguably supported/supports terrorism against the United States and her citizenry.

Moreover, how can the President of the United States bow down to a king? Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, John Adams, John Jay, James Madison, and so many others whose names may have been lost to the annals of history, but whose sacrifice and courage can never be forgotten, risked everything so that no American will ever bow down to a sovereign.

Ultimately, our American Founders bled, died, and sacrificed so that their posterity would not cower down, as simple subjects, to a concave crown. How far and how quickly has this once great nation fallen; from Patrick Henry’s famous last words, “give me liberty, or give me death” to Obama’s, now infamous, craven bow.

Micelle Obama, once callously remarked that she had never been proud of her country [in her adult life], now all Americans can feel a great lack of pride in their country thanks to the irresponsible actions of Barack Hussein Obama.

Apparently, Mr. Obama seems ready to follow in the inauspicious footsteps of that other iniquitous American, Benedict Arnold. Has it ever been more embarrassing to be an American citizen?
-Link (http://www.speak-out.org/)
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[BlackAsCoal]

Uber-stupid of the highest order.

Find a real argument.

[MintJulep]

This retard makes Neville Chamberlain look like Winston Churchill on steriods.

[mwillman]

poor poor republicans you don't have much say left in the world so you just lambaste those that have replaced you. You realize its your own fault you were replaced don't you. If it weren't for you horrible mismanagement of this nation and its security you wouldn't have had you asses handed to you on election day.

Now your powerless and pathetic.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

again typical bs from the right, be isolationists and piss of anyone different and bitch and moan about AND mock a prez who actually is trying to do something to reshape our rep in the world..BLAH!

[bairdi]

Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow hold hands or kiss? Thank goodness one of the presidents got it right.

http://dohiyimir.typepad.com/bush-abdulah.jpg

[Mr. Blue]

poor poor republicans you don't have much say left in the world so you just lambaste those that have replaced you. You realize its your own fault you were replaced don't you. If it weren't for you horrible mismanagement of this nation and its security you wouldn't have had you asses handed to you on election day.

Now your powerless and pathetic.

Everything old is new again. This is part of the political process now, find minutia, run with it, and make it like it's the most important thing in the world. I.E. when Bush was President, dems went loopy over him winking at the queen, and also accused him of sexual assault when he touched the German Chancellor. Both incidents I thought were just stupid and blown out of proportion, but people ran with it.

Now the same is happening with Obama. First the queen and now the bowing thing is inconsequential to me, as Bush did odd things as well as Bairdi pointed out.

Only thing I can say, if I were President, I wouldn't bow to anyone, I wouldn't hold hands, and or man kiss them....so....lol. I will roll my eyes a little at it, but it's just a silly little blip on the radar of nothingness.

[Richard Poor]

Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow hold hands or kiss? Thank goodness one of the presidents got it right.

http://dohiyimir.typepad.com/bush-abdulah.jpg
Umm, the pictures you provided are of two leaders meeting as equals... what message did Obama send by bending over to the Saudi King... at the same time, what message did he send by not bowing to the English Queen?

[Richard Poor]

Everything old is new again. This is part of the political process now, find minutia, run with it, and make it like it's the most important thing in the world. I.E. when Bush was President, dems went loopy over him winking at the queen, and also accused him of sexual assault when he touched the German Chancellor. Both incidents I thought were just stupid and blown out of proportion, but people ran with it.

Now the same is happening with Obama. First the queen and now the bowing thing is inconsequential to me, as Bush did odd things as well as Bairdi pointed out.

Only thing I can say, if I were President, I wouldn't bow to anyone, I wouldn't hold hands, and or man kiss them....so....lol. I will roll my eyes a little at it, but it's just a silly little blip on the radar of nothingness.I think this is ignorance speaking; ignorance of how his foolish actions can and are being perceived in international communities.

[Richard Poor]

again typical bs from the right, be isolationists and piss of anyone different and bitch and moan about AND mock a prez who actually is trying to do something to reshape our rep in the world..BLAH!
Yeah, why would I criticize a president who would make Americans beggars abroad?

[Richard Poor]

This retard makes Neville Chamberlain look like Winston Churchill on steriods.
Lol, sadly I think you are paying Obama too much of a compliment.

[Richard Poor]

Uber-stupid of the highest order.

Find a real argument.
Actually it is you who needs to "find a real argument"... all you did was make a foolish claim, without support... outside of liberal circles, that is not considered an argument.

[Mr. Blue]

I think this is ignorance speaking; ignorance of how his foolish actions can and are being perceived in international communities.

Gee, you should have been on this forum during the Bush years...

The scale of importance of this incident is only important to people indoctrinated in their political party. Just like I thought incidents with Bush were overblown by Dems, I think this is being blown out of proportion by Reps.

[Richard Poor]

Gee, you should have been on this forum during the Bush years...

The scale of importance of this incident is only important to people indoctrinated in their political party. Just like I thought incidents with Bush were overblown by Dems, I think this is being blown out of proportion by Reps.
Well, in comparison to the racism and complete lack of judgment Obama displayed over his 20+ year relationship with Mr. Wright, I can see how this may look somewhat small, but that fact does not make this incident small - only small in comparison.

[UABblazer]

Everything old is new again. This is part of the political process now, find minutia, run with it, and make it like it's the most important thing in the world. I.E. when Bush was President, dems went loopy over him winking at the queen, and also accused him of sexual assault when he touched the German Chancellor. Both incidents I thought were just stupid and blown out of proportion, but people ran with it.

Now the same is happening with Obama. First the queen and now the bowing thing is inconsequential to me, as Bush did odd things as well as Bairdi pointed out.

Only thing I can say, if I were President, I wouldn't bow to anyone, I wouldn't hold hands, and or man kiss them....so....lol. I will roll my eyes a little at it, but it's just a silly little blip on the radar of nothingness.

The BEST argument I have ever seen made on this site.

[UABblazer]

I think this is ignorance speaking; ignorance of how his foolish actions can and are being perceived in international communities.

Like invading a country posing as liberators just to become occupiers?

[Richard Poor]

Like invading a country posing as liberators just to become occupiers?
Well, I am not sure what you are trying to state... for America truly liberated Iraq.

Tell me, has America occupied all of Europe since the end of WWII? Is America an occupier of Europe to this day in your opinion?

[Richard Poor]

The BEST argument I have ever seen made on this site.
You probably should read more... however, this does explain a lot.

[Hog Trash]

Obama wasn't bowing, he was sniffin the kings crotch.

A common practice among gay muslim men. :bowdown::punchballs:

[mwillman]

I am amazed at your in depth knowledge of gay cultures around the world.

[Hog Trash]

I am amazed at your in depth knowledge of gay cultures around the world.Yea I know what ya mean, I amaze myself sometimes Willy. :thumbsup:

[mwillman]

Im sure you do, you seem to be easily amazed. :taunt:

[doctordog]

Obama wasn't bowing, he was sniffin the kings crotch.

A common practice among gay muslim men. :bowdown::punchballs:

Actually it was Muslim code for "I'll bend over, you drive":lmao2:

[Smurf-Herder]

poor poor republicans you don't have much say left in the world so you just lambaste those that have replaced you. You realize its your own fault you were replaced don't you. If it weren't for you horrible mismanagement of this nation and its security you wouldn't have had you asses handed to you on election day.

Now your powerless and pathetic.

Powerless to watch the Idiot in Chief making us look weak and foolish for electing him as our "leader".

[Smurf-Herder]

Like invading a country posing as liberators just to become occupiers?

Which one is that?

[mwillman]

I find it funny how we see things right in front of us so differently.

I see a proud intelligent man recognizing human equality without any fear of being seen as weak. You must feel the need to prove that you are not a coward but many dont see that as anything but insecurity.

[UABblazer]

I find it funny how we see things right in front of us so differently.

I see a proud intelligent man recognizing human equality without any fear of being seen as weak. You must feel the need to prove that you are not a coward but many dont see that as anything but insecurity.

I just love it how Fox News has spent more time talking about this "bow" than anything else.

[Smurf-Herder]

I am amazed at your in depth knowledge of gay cultures around the world.

I actually heard about "gay" muslim culture, from my kid who was just outside of Sadr City for a year. He was stationed at FOB Camp Rustamiyah - a joint US/Iraqi base. But I won't discuss it here, for obvious reasons.

[Smurf-Herder]

I find it funny how we see things right in front of us so differently.

I see a proud intelligent man recognizing human equality without any fear of being seen as weak. You must feel the need to prove that you are not a coward but many dont see that as anything but insecurity.

I see a newbie, who appears either too ignorant to have a staff foreign protocol advisor (like, that's what the State Department does for these overseas trips), or he knowingly wanted to put that image into the heads of muslim leaders and viewers (this was probably all over muslim TV) - the President of the United States, showing his allegiance and acknowledging his low stature to the Guardian of Mecca. Because allegiance and acknowledging his rule over them is what the King's subjects are showing when they bow before him.

[Hog Trash]

I actually heard about "gay" muslim culture, from my kid who was just outside of Sadr City for a year. He was stationed at FOB Camp Rustamiyah - a joint US/Iraqi base. But I won't discuss it here, for obvious reasons.Why do you think liberals like muslims so much?

[mwillman]

And I should care what you see because?
Tell me whats your experience in world affairs.

Oh thats right, you're just some poh-dunk who thinks they know everything.

Hahaha

[Kanadesaga]

Jesus fucking christ, Obama bows as is custom and you homophobes have all sorts of witty retorts. yet when the retard practically french kisses the saudi's mouth and holds hands so sweetly, not a fucking word.

That is hypocrisy and typical for tighty rightys.



http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bush_abdullah.jpg

[Trillian]

Jesus fucking christ, Obama bows as is custom and you homophobes have all sorts of witty retorts. yet when the retard practically french kisses the saudi's mouth and holds hands so sweetly, not a fucking word.

That is hypocrisy and typical for tighty rightys.



http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bush_abdullah.jpg

reference your bush-abdullah pic-have you seen that Utube?

[Kanadesaga]

reference your bush-abdullah pic-have you seen that Utube?

I try not to watch when my leaders embarass themselves.

[The Professor]

Jesus fucking christ, Obama bows as is custom and you homophobes have all sorts of witty retorts. yet when the retard practically french kisses the saudi's mouth and holds hands so sweetly, not a fucking word.

That is hypocrisy and typical for tighty rightys.



http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bush_abdullah.jpg

uncouth?

LOLOLOL!!!

[Richard Poor]

I find it funny how we see things right in front of us so differently.

I see a proud intelligent man recognizing human equality without any fear of being seen as weak. You must feel the need to prove that you are not a coward but many dont see that as anything but insecurity.
Only a blind liberal would see a craven bow from just one man to another [and not visa versa] as "recognizing human equality"... one has to wonder why king Abdullah, Obama's apparent equal, did not feel the need to bow before him in return or why Obama did not bow as an equal before the Queen of England.

[Richard Poor]

I just love it how Fox News has spent more time talking about this "bow" than anything else.
I know it must dissapoint you to talk aboust something new; seeing how MSNBS is still spending countless hours desparging President Bush... :lmao2:

[Kanadesaga]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/BushSaudiKing.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/04-26_DU.jpg
We all know why he loves the Saudis so much.



He gazed into his soul.
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http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bushabbas.jpg

[Richard Poor]

Jesus fucking christ, Obama bows as is custom and you homophobes have all sorts of witty retorts. yet when the retard practically french kisses the saudi's mouth and holds hands so sweetly, not a fucking word.

That is hypocrisy and typical for tighty rightys.



http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bush_abdullah.jpg




Please do not take the Lord's name in vain.

Tell me, why did Obama not bow to the queen of England then... as is custom?

By the way, Bush and the Saudi King both kissed each other as is custom... did the Saudi King bow to Obama in return?

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[Richard Poor]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/BushSaudiKing.jpg

Some more crap...

Lol, Mr. Obama makes an ass out of himself and America, and in typical liberal fashion, your knee-jerk reaction is to attack former President Bush when ironically, it was actually President Bush who was following correct cultural protocol during those meetings.

[Kanadesaga]

Please do not take the Lord's name in vain.

Jesus fucking christ!!

Tell me, why did Obama not bow to the queen of England then... as is custom?

It was an informal meeting, not required.

By the way, Bush and the Saudi King both kissed each other as is custom... did the Saudi King bow to Obama in return?

The Saudis are arrogant fucks. You do know that no ambassador to their "kingdom" is allowed to know Arabic. Nice.

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Just as Michele's arm was not out of protocol.

[Kanadesaga]

Lol, Mr. Obama makes an ass out of himself and America, and in typical liberal fashion, your knee-jerk reaction is to attack former President Bush when ironically, it was actually President Bush who was following correct cultural protocol during those meetings.


No, addressing the hypocrisy that no one on the right said a word when bush embarrassed himself fawning over the Saudis. Another one whose elevator doesn't quite reach the top floor.

[The Professor]

Jesus fucking christ!!



It was an informal meeting, not required.



The Saudis are arrogant fucks. You do know that no ambassador to their "kingdom" is allowed to know Arabic. Nice.

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Just as Michele's arm was not out of protocol.[/QUOTE]


uncouth?!

LOLOLOL!!!

[Kanadesaga]

uncouth?!

LOLOLOL!!!


uncouth
One entry found.




Main Entry: un·couth
Pronunciation: \ən-ˈküth\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English uncūth, from un- + cūth familiar, known; akin to Old High German kund known, Old English can know — more at can
Date: before 12th century
1 aarchaic : not known or not familiar to one : seldom experienced : uncommon , rare bobsolete : mysterious , uncanny
2 a: strange or clumsy in shape or appearance : outlandish b: lacking in polish and grace : rugged <uncouth verse> c: awkward and uncultivated in appearance, manner, or behavior : rude— un·couth·ly adverb
— un·couth·ness noun


Yes, uncouth. I've bolded the pertinent definitions.

[The Professor]

this, from the open pusher of porn

[Kanadesaga]

this, from the open pusher of porn


That, young man is slander.

[Richard Poor]

It was an informal meeting, not required.Hmm, Mr. Obama's first time meeting with the Queen of Englad on his first trip to Europe as President, in front of reporters... yeah, very informal.

Do you just make things up as you go along?



Just as Michele's arm was not out of protocol.
Oh, so since there were [at least] two mistakes made by the Obama's, then that must be right. Wrong.

[Richard Poor]

No, addressing the hypocrisy that no one on the right said a word when bush embarrassed himself fawning over the Saudis. Another one whose elevator doesn't quite reach the top floor.
No you were addressing your imagined hypocracy between apples and oranges. At least Bush had enough sense not bow like a craven in front of him... to bad Obama does not.

[Kanadesaga]

Hmm, Mr. Obama's first time meeting with the queen of Englad on his first trip to Europe as President, in front of reporters... yeah, very informal.

Do you just make things up as you go along?




Oh, so since there were [at least] two mistakes made by the Obama's, then that must be right. Wrong.


You really shouldn't embarass yourself like this. I assume you can read?

G20 summit: President Barack Obama meets the Queen at Buckingham Palace - and gives her an iPod
President Barack Obama arrived at Buckingham Palace tonight for a much anticipated first meeting with the Queen, and reportedly gave her an iPod as a gift.
Mr Obama and wife Michelle swept into the Royal residence in their chauffeur-driven car – known as The Beast – for private talks with the Monarch.

The Queen was meeting Mr Obama ahead of a Palace reception for G20 leaders and other international organisations.

He and his wife looked relaxed as they were greeted on the steps of the Garden Entrance by the Master of the Household Air Vice-Marshal David Walker.

The President was dressed in a dark suit with a striped tie while his wife wore a black dress.

Earlier today the President spoke of his admiration for the Queen.

Her "decency and civility" were important to people across the US, he said.

And he revealed that he and his wife were looking forward to meeting the Queen.

Mr Obama said: "There's a last thing I should mention about Great Britain and that's the Queen, so I am very much looking forward to meeting her for the first time later this evening.

"As you might imagine, Michelle has been really thinking about it too.

"I think in the imagination of people throughout America, what the Queen stands for, her decency and her civility and what she represents is very important."

The informal chat between the Queen, aged 82, and the president, 47, was an opportunity for the pair to talk freely.

They were joined by the Duke of Edinburgh, 87, and Michelle Obama, 45.

The two couples met in a room within the Queen's private apartments without advisers, aides or Palace staff.

Presents were exchanged between the two heads of state with the Obamas presenting the Queen with a personalised iPod containing a video of her visit to Virginia, Washington, in 2007.

In return, the royal couple gave them a silver-framed, signed photograph of themselves.

During the Queen's reign there have been 12 US presidents and she has met all of them, except Lyndon B Johnson.

The setting for this evening's G20 reception was formal but the idea was for the atmosphere to be informal to allow the politicians to relax before the major summit tomorrow.

The dress code was low-key with lounge suits stipulated and spouses were also invited to the event.

Limousines carrying the dignitaries pulled into the Palace at regular intervals to drop off the politicians but there was no set order for arrivals.

The reception was attended by world leaders including Gordon Brown, Russian president Dimitry Medvedev, his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy, German chancellor Angela Merkel, UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon and European Commission President José Manuel Barroso.

Palace staff served canapés made by chefs from the royal kitchens and drinks – red and white wine, apple and orange juice and still water – were on offer.

The Queen was expected to mingle among the guests during the 75-minute long royal reception.

Each G20 nation and the international organisations were allocated up to five guests and around 150 were expected to attend.

The reception was due to finish with a group photo of the world leaders with the Queen.

The Queen wore a bright salmon pink dress to greet her visitors inside the palace.

She smiled warmly as she shook hands with Mrs Obama while their husbands looked on.

The foursome chatted briefly in front of photographers, who were allowed to record the initial moments of the historic encounter.

The Queen and Mrs Obama, who wore a dramatic monochrome outfit of a full black skirt and cardigan over a white scoop-neck top, echoed each other's poses as they stood before the cameras.

They held their hands clasped before them, while they also appeared to share a taste for statement jewellery, both wearing sparkly, chunky necklaces.

Their footwear – black, closed-toe court shoes – also matched.

Meanwhile, President Obama, who appeared relaxed and cheerful, was dressed similarly to the Duke of Edinburgh, who wore a dark suit, white shirt and tie.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5090548/G20-summit-President-Barack-Obama-meets-the-Queen-at-Buckingham-Palace---and-gives-her-an-iPod.html





In case you missed it! :lmao2:

[Kanadesaga]

No you were addressing your imagined hypocracy between apples and oranges. At least Bush had enough sense not bow like a craven in front of him... to bad Obama does not.

No, instead he tongues them.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bush_abdullah.jpg

[The Professor]

That, young man is slander.

LOLOLOL!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

[Kanadesaga]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/attentionwhore.gif

[Richard Poor]

You really shouldn't embarass yourself like this. I assume you can read?




In case you missed it! :lmao2:
Oh, so regardless of the facts; since someone characterized it as "an informal meeting" therefore it must have been one... yeah, they were just downing Guinness’ together at a local pub.

No, rather it was the first meeting between Obama and the Queen of England on Barack's first European trip -- these are the facts - it was a significant meeting.

Someone's label does not affect the reality of the situation... moreover it does not explain why Obama would bow like a cowering servant before the King of Saudi Arabia, nor does it explain why he did not bow like a faithful servant before the British Queen then.

Your own articles notes, that this was not just a regular meeting, despite the later mischaracterization. A special meeting between the newly elected President of the United States and the Queen of England is not truly informal.
G20 summit: President Barack Obama meets the Queen at Buckingham Palace - and gives her an iPod
President Barack Obama arrived at Buckingham Palace tonight for a much anticipated first meeting with the Queen, and reportedly gave her an iPod as a gift.

Mr Obama and wife Michelle swept into the Royal residence in their chauffeur-driven car – known as The Beast – for private talks with the Monarch.

The Queen was meeting Mr Obama ahead of a Palace reception for G20 leaders and other international organisations. ...

Lol, you just encapsulated one the biggest problems liberals have; they tend to believe anything without thinking about it. If the article went on to write that 2 + 2 = 15, would you then argue that 2 + 2 actually equals fifteen?

Sadly, this type of intellectual acquiescence explains how so many helped elect a racist with little-to-no real leadership experience as president.

Next time, try thinking before you embarrass yourself.
:lmao2:

[Smurf-Herder]

Jesus fucking christ, Obama bows as is custom and you homophobes have all sorts of witty retorts. yet when the retard practically french kisses the saudi's mouth and holds hands so sweetly, not a fucking word.

That is hypocrisy and typical for tighty rightys.



http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/bush_abdullah.jpg


Yeah, I'd like to see a link to where that pic came from, too.

I want to know if that was photoshopped.

[Hog Trash]

Only a blind liberal would see a craven bow from just one man to another [and not visa versa] as "recognizing human equality"... one has to wonder why king Abdullah, Obama's apparent equal, did not feel the need to bow before him in return or why Obama did not bow as an equal before the Queen of England.Why did Obama bow to the Muslim Saudi King, but not the Queen of England?

Obama and his wife and children had a 20 year attendence record at the Church of Reverend Jerimiah Wright in Chicago Il, where marxist rooted, Black Liberation Theology was taught, which included outragious conspiracy theories such as AIDs was created by the white power structure to exterminate the black race and also taught racial hatred for the white race and the Jews. I don't think anyone would even attempt to deny this because there is simply to much documentation, including videos.

Barack Hussein Obama has had many anti-America, Marxist and Islamic friends and associates in his personal and political history. Most main stream news organizations have pretty much ignored and kept these reports low-keyed, leading most people to believe that there must be nothing to these "accusations". People have been led to believe that most of these "accusations" were nothing more than attempts by the right-wing and the Republican Party to discredit Obama.

Why did Barack Hussein Obama bow to the Saudi King???....Because he more identifies with this man through their history, religion and heritage...The King is as his Father.

Why did he not bow to the Queen of England???....Obama is a racist who will never bow his head to any jew nor especially to whitey for the terrible injustice to his people.

[MintJulep]

Why did Obama bow to the Muslim Saudi King, but not the Queen of England?

Obama and his wife and children had a 20 year attendence record at the Church of Reverend Jerimiah Wright in Chicago Il, where marxist rooted, Black Liberation Theology was taught, which included outragious conspiracy theories such as AIDs was created by the white power structure to exterminate the black race and also taught racial hatred for the white race and the Jews. I don't think anyone would even attempt to deny this because there is simply to much documentation, including videos.

Barack Hussein Obama has had many anti-America, Marxist and Islamic friends and associates in his personal and political history. Most main stream news organizations have pretty much ignored and kept these reports low-keyed, leading most people to believe that there must be nothing to these "accusations". People have been led to believe that most of these "accusations" were nothing more than attempts by the right-wing and the Republican Party to discredit Obama.

Why did Barack Hussein Obama bow to the Saudi King???....Because he more identifies with this man through their history, religion and heritage...The King is as his Father.

Why did he not bow to the Queen of England???....Obama is a racist who will never bow his head to any jew nor especially to whitey for the terrible injustice to his people.Exactly.......

[Richard Poor]

Why did Obama bow to the Muslim Saudi King, but not the Queen of England?

Obama and his wife and children had a 20 year attendence record at the Church of Reverend Jerimiah Wright in Chicago Il, where marxist rooted, Black Liberation Theology was taught, which included outragious conspiracy theories such as AIDs was created by the white power structure to exterminate the black race and also taught racial hatred for the white race and the Jews. I don't think anyone would even attempt to deny this because there is simply to much documentation, including videos.

Barack Hussein Obama has had many anti-America, Marxist and Islamic friends and associates in his personal and political history. Most main stream news organizations have pretty much ignored and kept these reports low-keyed, leading most people to believe that there must be nothing to these "accusations". People have been led to believe that most of these "accusations" were nothing more than attempts by the right-wing and the Republican Party to discredit Obama.

Why did Barack Hussein Obama bow to the Saudi King???....Because he more identifies with this man through their history, religion and heritage...The King is as his Father.

Why did he not bow to the Queen of England???....Obama is a racist who will never bow his head to any jew nor especially to whitey for the terrible injustice to his people.
:thumbsup:

[SeniorChief]

Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow hold hands or kiss? Thank goodness one of the presidents got it right.

http://dohiyimir.typepad.com/bush-abdulah.jpg


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhEA/R5yMP91H5RI/AAAAAAAAEZk/k_b4lo4_qIM/s400/080127-clinton-saudi.jpg

http://pro.corbis.com/images/WL009854.jpg?size=67&uid=%7B03AADB85-CCFF-4792-AB53-2907E8DC4DE4%7D

http://z.about.com/d/middleeast/1/0/f/3/-/-/1219-bandar-clinton.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/03/03/washington/03diplo.600.jpg

[SeniorChief]

http://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/480/385/30779827-saudi-arabias.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/008Xasj9ht8aN/520x.jpg

http://www.uark.edu/depts/silc/ark/PLUS/Clinton_7.jpg

http://cdn.wn.com/o25/ph//2008/12/19/1dad44f714819ec7177517ef4b4f5502-grande.jpg

[SeniorChief]

Yeah, I'd like to see a link to where that pic came from, too.

I want to know if that was photoshopped.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CSUPQ7EpU_4/SQttR05YmuI/AAAAAAAAclQ/Umx56Jbjthk/S1600-R/obama-bin-laden.jpg

[Trillian]

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Just as Michele's arm was not out of protocol.[/QUOTE]

OMG, that outfit makes her look like Shamu.

[Mason66]

Gee, you should have been on this forum during the Bush years...

The scale of importance of this incident is only important to people indoctrinated in their political party. Just like I thought incidents with Bush were overblown by Dems, I think this is being blown out of proportion by Reps.

Forgetting about politcal party for a second the bow made the US look weak in front of the muslim world. Strong male leaders do not bow to anyone. They are bowed to.

If the extremists see the US as a weaker country with Obama as president they will attack on US soil again.

Obama doesn't get that.

Appearance is everything.

Would McCain have bowed to the King? Doubtful

[Trillian]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CSUPQ7EpU_4/SQttR05YmuI/AAAAAAAAclQ/Umx56Jbjthk/S1600-R/obama-bin-laden.jpg

Zooming in on pixelation-If this is Photoshopped they did an almost perfect piece. The blue drapery background has total pixel continuity behind both parties, but the shadow coming off Obama's arm stops right below the green lei. There is no shadow cast on Osama. Interesting.

[Hog Trash]

http://www.uark.edu/depts/silc/ark/PLUS/Clinton_7.jpg

Hey SC, is there any doubt about what our ex-POTUS is covering up here?...Hubba-Hubba-Harem! :flowers:

Oh my goodness Mr President, is that a Cuban Cigar you're hiding or are you just happy to see us? :banana:

[Mason66]

It was an informal meeting, not required.





No meeting with the Queen of England is informal. Especially the first meeting between the new president of the US and the Queen.

There is protocol for EVERYTHING with her down to the smallest thing.

She is a figurehead but you must respect her position and of couse Obama didn't give her the respect she deserved.

I wonder what she really thinks of him now.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CSUPQ7EpU_4/SQttR05YmuI/AAAAAAAAclQ/Umx56Jbjthk/S1600-R/obama-bin-laden.jpg
that one was photo shopped for sure! but I dont think senior is smart enough to do it himself so where did you find it man?

[Richard Poor]

Zooming in on pixelation-If this is Photoshopped they did an almost perfect piece. The blue drapery background has total pixel continuity behind both parties, but the shadow coming off Obama's arm stops right below the green lei. There is no shadow cast on Osama. Interesting.
It looks pretty fake to me - just check out Obama's beard... also, notice that Obama's hands are not in someone's back pocket [looking for their wallet]... thus, it has to be fake.

[Kanadesaga]

Oh, so regardless of the facts; since someone characterized it as "an informal meeting" therefore it must have been one... yeah, they were just downing Guinness’ together at a local pub.

No, rather it was the first meeting between Obama and the Queen of England on Barack's first European trip -- these are the facts - it was a significant meeting.

Someone's label does not affect the reality of the situation... moreover it does not explain why Obama would bow like a cowering servant before the King of Saudi Arabia, nor does it explain why he did not bow like a faithful servant before the British Queen then.

Your own articles notes, that this was not just a regular meeting, despite the later mischaracterization. A special meeting between the newly elected President of the United States and the Queen of England is not truly informal.


Lol, you just encapsulated one the biggest problems liberals have; they tend to believe anything without thinking about it. If the article went on to write that 2 + 2 = 15, would you then argue that 2 + 2 actually equals fifteen?

Sadly, this type of intellectual acquiescence explains how so many helped elect a racist with little-to-no real leadership experience as president.

Next time, try thinking before you embarrass yourself.
:lmao2:


You're the one embarassing yourself, dick. Maybe you should watch the BBC and see what the British are saying, instead of some fat ass blowhard, or some dry drunk Mormon wackjob. It was informal, as everyone has stated, I know you want the Prez to be some hayseed boob, like bush was, but he isn't. But hey you still have Palion to embarass you guys.

[Kanadesaga]

No meeting with the Queen of England is informal. Especially the first meeting between the new president of the US and the Queen.

There is protocol for EVERYTHING with her down to the smallest thing.

She is a figurehead but you must respect her position and of couse Obama didn't give her the respect she deserved.

I wonder what she really thinks of him now.


Shu, fly.


.....

[Mason66]

Shu, fly.


.....

What an intelligent reply.

Congratulations

[Kanadesaga]

What an intelligent reply.

Congratulations


Only dealing with what you've given me.

[Kanadesaga]

Yeah, I'd like to see a link to where that pic came from, too.

I want to know if that was photoshopped.

Here's the same kiss from another angle, mmmmmmmmmm bromance!


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/3kc3m53l1ZZZZZZZZZ949efbcc57ad06513.jpg


and here's the link for that pic.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pol/1114342985.html

[Hog Trash]

What an intelligent reply.

CongratulationsDefinately not much there....Despite being pretty far down the evolutionary ladder, Kandy could still be considered a mental giant compared to some of these other liberals here.

There's a few that I suspect can't even feed or dress themselves....What a sad and pathetic bunch.

[Kanadesaga]

Definately not much there....Despite being pretty far down the evolutionary ladder, Kandy could still be considered a mental giant compared to some of these other liberals here.

There's a few that I suspect can't even feed or dress themselves....What a sad and pathetic bunch.


This from the veritable ham slammer!!

[Smurf-Herder]

Here's the same kiss from another angle, mmmmmmmmmm bromance!


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/3kc3m53l1ZZZZZZZZZ949efbcc57ad06513.jpg


and here's the link for that pic.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pol/1114342985.html

If you put it in Photoshop and zoom in on the lips and Bush's nose, the pixels don't look right.

[Hog Trash]

If you put it in Photoshop and zoom in on the lips and Bush's nose, the pixels don't look right.I don't know for sure but ta me it looks an awful lot like their swappin spit.

You know what they say about them lonesome cowboys and them damn Persians been known ta hop the fence occasionaly to.

[Smurf-Herder]

What ever happened to the original point of this thread?:doh:

[Mr. Blue]

Forgetting about politcal party for a second the bow made the US look weak in front of the muslim world.

The ability to turn the middle east into a glass bowl...by default...makes the U.S. strong, will always be strong, and people need to calm the hell down as one mistake, and I think Obama would like to take this one back, isn't exactly going to change the fact that we can blow all their shit up if we want.

However, while this act may not have overly impressed everyone, it might have made us look weak in the minds of some demented M.E. leader, etc, it can also have a sobering effect on the population of the middle east.

Not everyone in the Middle East is willing to jihad your ass just for the fun of it. Not every Muslim is radical, not every Muslim hates America, and this bow, even though I wasn't crazy about it, might help those Moderate Middle East leaders, politicians, citizens, with moving forward, changing public opinion, and normalizing relations with the U.S.

Either way, I don't honestly see this as a huge deal...certainly not 8 pages worth, lol.

[Hog Trash]

What ever happened to the original point of this thread?:doh:What was it? :confused:

Oh yea!....You know how it is Smurf...The libbies always take everything back to Bush.

[Mason66]

The ability to turn the middle east into a glass bowl...by default...makes the U.S. strong, will always be strong, and people need to calm the hell down as one mistake, and I think Obama would like to take this one back, isn't exactly going to change the fact that we can blow all their shit up if we want.

However, while this act may not have overly impressed everyone, it might have made us look weak in the minds of some demented M.E. leader, etc, it can also have a sobering effect on the population of the middle east.

Not everyone in the Middle East is willing to jihad your ass just for the fun of it. Not every Muslim is radical, not every Muslim hates America, and this bow, even though I wasn't crazy about it, might help those Moderate Middle East leaders, politicians, citizens, with moving forward, changing public opinion, and normalizing relations with the U.S.

Either way, I don't honestly see this as a huge deal...certainly not 8 pages worth, lol.

The US is not a masculine dominated society like Saudi or any of thoses countries.

The King would never show reverence to another leader like that.

You have to look at it from that point of view.

Any show of weakness can be exploited and I am sure they will.

Yes it was a mistake but it could have repercussions in the future and lets not even talk about the lies from the white house staff about it was or was not a bow.

Combine that with the video tape to Iran and Obamas willingness to talk down the US in a foreign country, and you see a President that seems more worried about what they think of him than appearing strong in support of his own country.

Just keep an eye on him. The next time he meets with foreign leaders something else will happen.

[Smurf-Herder]

The US is not a masculine dominated society like Saudi or any of thoses countries.

The King would never show reverence to another leader like that.

You have to look at it from that point of view.

Any show of weakness can be exploited and I am sure they will.

Yes it was a mistake but it could have repercussions in the future and lets not even talk about the lies from the white house staff about it was or was not a bow.

Combine that with the video tape to Iran and Obamas willingness to talk down the US in a foreign country, and you see a President that seems more worried about what they think of him than appearing strong in support of his own country.

Just keep an eye on him. The next time he meets with foreign leaders something else will happen.


Has he given the Prime Minister of Israel a Virginia Baked Ham yet? :lmao2:

[Cat slave]

I just love it how Fox News has spent more time talking about this "bow" than anything else.

A little behind the times eh? Now its "Fox Nation".:D

[Trillian]

If you put it in Photoshop and zoom in on the lips and Bush's nose, the pixels don't look right.

It sure dont.

[Smurf-Herder]

Somebody used too large a brush setting for the rubber stamp tool. Good call!

I noticed your avatar - I loved Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

The book is nothing like seeing the whole thing played out in live action.

[Binky]

Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow, hold hands or kiss? Bow hold hands or kiss? Thank goodness one of the presidents got it right.

http://dohiyimir.typepad.com/bush-abdulah.jpg



Actually, they look ever so much like young lovers except neither is that young. :lmao2:

[Binky]

Umm, the pictures you provided are of two leaders meeting as equals... what message did Obama send by bending over to the Saudi King... at the same time, what message did he send by not bowing to the English Queen?


That he was an amateur at the presidental game? And wasn't fully aware of the respectful overtures he was to perform? :(

[Binky]

Here's the same kiss from another angle, mmmmmmmmmm bromance!


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/3kc3m53l1ZZZZZZZZZ949efbcc57ad06513.jpg


and here's the link for that pic.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pol/1114342985.html


I wonder if Bush liked that kiss or was it the mustache? Hummmm, gross, either way.

[Binky]

What ever happened to the original point of this thread?:doh:


:lmao2: It took a flyin' leap into the bullpucky pile. :lmao2:

[Binky]

A little behind the times eh? Now its "Fox Nation".:D


How about Fox Cremation? :lmao2:

[Hog Trash]

I just love it how Fox News has spent more time talking about this "bow" than anything else.I suppose none of the other news networks have given much time to the Obama Bow?

Hmmm?.....Why am I not surprised?! :bowdown::hero:Originally Posted by mwillman
I find it funny how we see things right in front of us so differently.

I see a proud intelligent man recognizing human equality without any fear of being seen as weak. You must feel the need to prove that you are not a coward but many dont see that as anything but insecurity.That's because you're looking through Loyal Raptured Sheep goggles.

[Binky]

I suppose none of the other news networks have given much time to the Obama Bow?

Hmmm?.....Why am I not surprised?! :bowdown::hero:That's because you're looking through Loyal Raptured Sheep goggles.



How typical of you Hoggy. :lmao2: :lmao2:

[bairdi]

No you were addressing your imagined hypocracy between apples and oranges. At least Bush had enough sense not bow like a craven in front of him... to bad Obama does not.
Not according to one of frankie's and radioguy's favorite conservative sites, littlegreenfootballs.

Bush Bowed Too

World | Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:36:23 pm PDT

More than a few people on the right are screaming that Barack Obama should be impeached for bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

Those of you who are buying into this hyperventilating nonsense need to see this video. (Click the image to watch.)

This deference to a very bad country has been going on for decades; it didn’t start with Barack Obama, or with George W. Bush, or with John F. Kennedy for that matter.

Instead of impeaching Barack Obama, America needs to impeach its gas tanks.

And just imagine how much screaming there would be if Obama had let Abdullah hang a medal around his neck.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too

[disrupter]

You mean Obama didn't KISS him like lovey-dovey Bush did?

Bush :flowers: Saudi Prince

I guess being a Saudi dictatorial oil mogul just isn't what it used to be.

[Richard Poor]

Not according to one of frankie's and radioguy's favorite conservative sites, littlegreenfootballs.

Bush Bowed Too

World | Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:36:23 pm PDT

More than a few people on the right are screaming that Barack Obama should be impeached for bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

Those of you who are buying into this hyperventilating nonsense need to see this video. (Click the image to watch.)

This deference to a very bad country has been going on for decades; it didn’t start with Barack Obama, or with George W. Bush, or with John F. Kennedy for that matter.

Instead of impeaching Barack Obama, America needs to impeach its gas tanks.

And just imagine how much screaming there would be if Obama had let Abdullah hang a medal around his neck.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too
Did you actually watch the video that you posted?

Probably not, because if you had, you would have seen that Bush was not bowing, rather he was leaning over so that the King could put some kind of wreath, or medallion, around his neck.

There is a big difference between a subservient bow and someone leaning over in order to accept a necklace placed around their collar.

The author even tried, in vain, to deflect any criticism by attempting to claim, that had Obama accepted a medallion by the King, this would have somehow been worse than his submissive bow – which of course is garbage.

In the end, the author of that post demonstrated that he cared not for the truth; rather he was hoping someone like you, or another liberal sheep, would come along and not challenge him.

[Richard Poor]

You mean Obama didn't KISS him like lovey-dovey Bush did?

Bush :flowers: Saudi Prince

I guess being a Saudi dictatorial oil mogul just isn't what it used to be.
Obviously you have never traveled abroad... kisses are routinely exchanged, almost like handshakes in many cultures.

I guess being a liberal just isn't what it used to be... I remember when liberals claimed to be tolerant of other cultures... apparently, they finally decided to drop that pretense.

[The Professor]

if bowing to an abdullah is no big deal, then why does the white house deny it took place?

[Richard Poor]

You're the one embarassing yourself, dick. Maybe you should watch the BBC and see what the British are saying, instead of some fat ass blowhard, or some dry drunk Mormon wackjob. It was informal, as everyone has stated, I know you want the Prez to be some hayseed boob, like bush was, but he isn't. But hey you still have Palion to embarass you guys.
Hmm, you have been proven wrong beyond a reasonable doubt - and you think I am embarrassed? Well, maybe a little embarrassed for you.

Even now, you are embarrassing yourself with this argument. The BBC is no better than MSNBS; moreover stop looking for other to do your thinking... if you were to take a moment, you would likely realize that the first meeting between a newly elected president and the Queen of England on his first European trip is neither routine nor truly informal... :hi:

In regards to your backhanded comments toward President Bush, at least he spoke on his own and was not dependent on a teleprompter... besides, Bush was a far better man and, thus far, a far better president than the Saudi servant, Obama.

[Richard Poor]

if bowing to an abdullah is no big deal, then why does the white house deny it took place?
I was thinking that the other day... when I first heard the denial... apparently, he is not aware that liberal sycophants everywhere are scrambling to make excuses for the bow... he should have told them that he was going to try and flat-out deny it [lie] before they made their lies.

[Richard Poor]

I suppose none of the other news networks have given much time to the Obama Bow?

Hmmm?.....Why am I not surprised?! :bowdown::hero:That's because you're looking through Loyal Raptured Sheep goggles.


Lol, that pic was classic... http://dcjunkies.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=342&stc=1&d=1239385716