President Polarize: Polls Show Historic Divide

[MintJulep]

Partisan Gap in Obama Job Approval Widest in Modern Era

April 2, 2009

For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. The 61-point partisan gap in opinions about Obama's job performance is the result of a combination of high Democratic ratings for the president -- 88% job approval among Democrats -- and relatively low approval ratings among Republicans (27%).

http://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/1178-1.gif

By comparison, there was a somewhat smaller 51-point partisan gap in views of George W. Bush's job performance in April 2001, a few months into his first term. At that time, Republican enthusiasm for Bush was comparable to how Democrats feel about Obama today, but there was substantially less criticism from members of the opposition party. Among Democrats, 36% approved of Bush's job performance in April 2001; that compares with a 27% job approval rating for Obama among Republicans today.

The partisan gap in Bill Clinton's early days was also substantially smaller than what Obama faces, largely because Democrats were less enthusiastic about Clinton. In early April 1993, 71% of Democrats approved of Clinton's job performance, which is 17 points lower than Obama's current job approval among Democrats. Republican ratings of Clinton at that point (26%) are comparable to their current ratings of Obama today (27%).

The growing partisan divide in presidential approval ratings is part of a long-term trend. Going back in time, partisanship was far less evident in the early job approval ratings for both Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon. In fact, a majority of Republicans (56%) approved of Carter's job performance in late March 1977, and a majority of Democrats (55%) approved of Nixon's performance at a comparable point in his first term.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic

[Richard Poor]

Interesting... sadly and predictably, Obama does not seem able to unite this country... hmm, who could have a predicted that a radical liberal, with racist leanings at best, and no real leadership experience would have problems uniting a country divided? At least with McCain, who was the true centrist in the race, both sides would have something to complain about.

[SeniorChief]

I'd say it's more like 4%, but you can't argue statistics -

"For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. The 61-point partisan gap in opinions about Obama's job performance is the result of a combination of high Democratic ratings for the president -- 88% job approval among Democrats -- and relatively low approval ratings among Republicans (27%)."

Full article - http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic

[SeniorChief]

Sorry Mods - I started another thread about this (Obama 27% approval rating) same topic. Can you delete that other thread so we don't have a duplicate?
Sorry.

[Independent Harry]

I'd say it's more like 4%, but you can't argue statistics -

"For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. The 61-point partisan gap in opinions about Obama's job performance is the result of a combination of high Democratic ratings for the president -- 88% job approval among Democrats -- and relatively low approval ratings among Republicans (27%)."

Full article - http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic

I wonde why the approval rating is so low for republicans and so high for democrats...oh yes, a lot of republicans listen to talk radio trash....and get their brains turned into jelly...

[Independent Harry]

LOL, the people polarizing this thing are not the president...the president has been in office for 2 months, not even a chance to do anything much yet. It's talk radio that is polarizing the nation...

[mwillman]

Talk radio and ignorant haters. Who were going to hate him no matter what he says or does because he doesn't agree with the right wing desire to destroy everything in the name of the rich.

[Reality4u]

LOL, the people polarizing this thing are not the president...the president has been in office for 2 months, not even a chance to do anything much yet. It's talk radio that is polarizing the nation...

lol. That's funny. You blame conservative talk radio for the partisan divide, while ignoring the other side of the coin. Did it ever occur to you the it's the liberal bias in all the other broadcast mediums that responsible for that divide? When you look at the numbers, one might conclude that was the case.

The overwhelming majority of people get their news and information in the morning between 6-9am, and in the evening from 5-8pm Here are some numbers for you to digest.

Morning News
29 million people daily get their news from left leaning ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NPR
14 million people daily get their news from right leaning FOX, Laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck

Afternoon/Evening News
40 million people daily get their news from left leaning ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC
16 million people daily get their news from right leaning FOX, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage and Mark Levin

Then of course there are the 10's of millions of people who read newspapers every day, the majority of which, have a strong left leaning perspective.

When you look at where the American people get their news and information, you see that vastly more people rely on left leaning sources, than they do right leaning ones. So blaming talk radio for the partisan divide is a phony argument in my opinion, because significantly more people are fed an "Obama can do no wrong" perspective, than listen to talk radio.

[mwillman]

The majority of Americans are not republicans anymore as the last elections proved.

The kind of people he is talking about are the ignorant talk radio sheep that patrol this forum.

[SeniorChief]

The majority of Americans are not republicans anymore....

69,456,897 voted for Barry Hussein
59,934,814 voted for Captain John McCain, US Navy (Retired)

Approximately 10,000,000 Mexicans and dead people bussed in to give Osama the victory.

[The Professor]

deficits are now IN EXCESS of 10% of gdp

sure death

NOT politics

gravity

14.2 trillion gdp in 2008

1.75 trillion deficit (according to obama) in 2010

1.75 divided by 14.2

ie, 12.3%

keynesian death

substance

not personalities

not talking points

not politics

not rush---LOLOL!

nope, just little old cliffy, the math teacher

deficits under obama EXCEED 10% of gdp

no defense proffered for that

cuz there is no defense for that

obama is surely gonna kill us all

12.3

percent

cliff

[mwillman]

hahaha, you really are pathetic arnt you SC, I mean really 10 million mexicans, why dont you just put up a big sign that says I SC am a racist.

[doctordog]

Partisan Gap in Obama Job Approval Widest in Modern Era

April 2, 2009

For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. The 61-point partisan gap in opinions about Obama's job performance is the result of a combination of high Democratic ratings for the president -- 88% job approval among Democrats -- and relatively low approval ratings among Republicans (27%).

http://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/1178-1.gif

By comparison, there was a somewhat smaller 51-point partisan gap in views of George W. Bush's job performance in April 2001, a few months into his first term. At that time, Republican enthusiasm for Bush was comparable to how Democrats feel about Obama today, but there was substantially less criticism from members of the opposition party. Among Democrats, 36% approved of Bush's job performance in April 2001; that compares with a 27% job approval rating for Obama among Republicans today.

The partisan gap in Bill Clinton's early days was also substantially smaller than what Obama faces, largely because Democrats were less enthusiastic about Clinton. In early April 1993, 71% of Democrats approved of Clinton's job performance, which is 17 points lower than Obama's current job approval among Democrats. Republican ratings of Clinton at that point (26%) are comparable to their current ratings of Obama today (27%).

The growing partisan divide in presidential approval ratings is part of a long-term trend. Going back in time, partisanship was far less evident in the early job approval ratings for both Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon. In fact, a majority of Republicans (56%) approved of Carter's job performance in late March 1977, and a majority of Democrats (55%) approved of Nixon's performance at a comparable point in his first term.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic

Good article Lady, so far he is proving to be more than twice as bad as Carter. Oh well, we were warned.

[Independent Harry]

lol. That's funny. You blame conservative talk radio for the partisan divide, while ignoring the other side of the coin. Did it ever occur to you the it's the liberal bias in all the other broadcast mediums that responsible for that divide? When you look at the numbers, one might conclude that was the case.

The overwhelming majority of people get their news and information in the morning between 6-9am, and in the evening from 5-8pm Here are some numbers for you to digest.

Morning News
29 million people daily get their news from left leaning ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NPR
14 million people daily get their news from right leaning FOX, Laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck

Afternoon/Evening News
40 million people daily get their news from left leaning ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC
16 million people daily get their news from right leaning FOX, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage and Mark Levin

Then of course there are the 10's of millions of people who read newspapers every day, the majority of which, have a strong left leaning perspective.

When you look at where the American people get their news and information, you see that vastly more people rely on left leaning sources, than they do right leaning ones. So blaming talk radio for the partisan divide is a phony argument in my opinion, because significantly more people are fed an "Obama can do no wrong" perspective, than listen to talk radio.

While they may be left leaning, I don't see the outright lying that Fox news and people like Rush Limbaugh resort too.

[mwillman]

Poor lossers crying about the sky falling again. Come on already, you must realize what whinners and crybabies you are.

[doctordog]

I wonde why the approval rating is so low for republicans and so high for democrats...oh yes, a lot of republicans listen to talk radio trash....and get their brains turned into jelly...

Employment percentages for Republicans are higher and the bail outs and pork spending are taking their toll on the working people.

[mwillman]

Whats really funny is how fast you forget that your president had the lowest approval ratings in modern history.

[doctordog]

Whats really funny is how fast you forget that your president had the lowest approval ratings in modern history.

Not three months into his first term:lmao2:

[mwillman]

Well first its been less then 3 months and while thats true, It shows how partisan the right wing is and little if anything about the President.

[Reality4u]

While they may be left leaning, I don't see the outright lying that Fox news and people like Rush Limbaugh resort too.

Could you give some examples of the "lies" you speak of please?

[SeniorChief]

It shows how partisan the right wing is and little if anything about the President.

What, precisely, has Obama "reached across the isle" to the Reps for since office?

Let me give you a hint - Nothing. Everything he's done, signed, though of is left-winged Liberalism.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended).

[doctordog]

Well first its been less then 3 months and while thats true, It shows how partisan the right wing is and little if anything about the President.

Just like the divide created by the democrats after 9/11 during Bush's tenure. For 8 years we listened to the left wing whine machine and now you are complaining after a few months.:lmao2:

You better toughen that boy up.

[Reality4u]

Sorry for the re-post, but I don't want this to get lost in the shuffle.

While they may be left leaning, I don't see the outright lying that Fox news and people like Rush Limbaugh resort too.

Could you give some examples of the "lies" you speak of please?

[MintJulep]

LOL, the people polarizing this thing are not the president...the president has been in office for 2 months, not even a chance to do anything much yet. It's talk radio that is polarizing the nation...ha ha ha....thanks for the laugh.

The polarization comes from eight years of the looney left on a mission to destroy Chimpybushitler around the clock.

Hope the fun times were worth it! LOL

[Reality4u]

ha ha ha....thanks for the laugh.

The polarization comes from eight years of the looney left on a mission to destroy Chimpybushitler around the clock.

Hope the fun times were worth it! LOL

Hey, it's "Chimpy McHitlerbush". Get it right next time. :lmao2:

[The Professor]

i talk about 12.3% of gdp, ie, sure death

obama's few remaining supporters talk about ME

and spell "losers" wrong

pathetic

[Mr. Blue]

Basically shows a widening separation in this country between the two parties. Both sides are guilty of it and it's just going to worsen in the next decade or so...I think you started seeing it in the last two years of Bush's administration and now Obama's.

It seems that political parties have won in creating a near hatred for the other side. It's more about the "party" now then it is about America.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

Partisan Gap in Obama Job Approval Widest in Modern Era

April 2, 2009

For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. The 61-point partisan gap in opinions about Obama's job performance is the result of a combination of high Democratic ratings for the president -- 88% job approval among Democrats -- and relatively low approval ratings among Republicans (27%).

http://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/1178-1.gif

By comparison, there was a somewhat smaller 51-point partisan gap in views of George W. Bush's job performance in April 2001, a few months into his first term. At that time, Republican enthusiasm for Bush was comparable to how Democrats feel about Obama today, but there was substantially less criticism from members of the opposition party. Among Democrats, 36% approved of Bush's job performance in April 2001; that compares with a 27% job approval rating for Obama among Republicans today.

The partisan gap in Bill Clinton's early days was also substantially smaller than what Obama faces, largely because Democrats were less enthusiastic about Clinton. In early April 1993, 71% of Democrats approved of Clinton's job performance, which is 17 points lower than Obama's current job approval among Democrats. Republican ratings of Clinton at that point (26%) are comparable to their current ratings of Obama today (27%).

The growing partisan divide in presidential approval ratings is part of a long-term trend. Going back in time, partisanship was far less evident in the early job approval ratings for both Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon. In fact, a majority of Republicans (56%) approved of Carter's job performance in late March 1977, and a majority of Democrats (55%) approved of Nixon's performance at a comparable point in his first term.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic


LMAO!!!! this is one of the funnier posts from you cons...making a big deal out of nothing! so his poll numbers are down......NEWSFLASH repubs will never get along with dems....Obama tried it and you guys said fuck you, Obama is not the reason for the divide, nimrods like Rush limbaugh and conservative hacks are, they wont jump on anything remotely democratic at all and want Obama to fail in a sad attempt to try and regain the power and control they lost after 8 years of the worst president in history.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

sad sad sacks...so his numbers are down...AMONG REPUBLICANS! SO FRIGGIN WHAT, you guys decided to give Obama a great big fuck you along time ago, you are the polarizing divide not Obama and dems. big deal over NOTHING!

[MintJulep]

LMAO!!!! this is one of the funnier posts from you cons...making a big deal out of nothing! so his poll numbers are down......NEWSFLASH repubs will never get along with dems....Obama tried it and you guys said fuck you, Obama is not the reason for the divide, nimrods like Rush limbaugh and conservative hacks are, they wont jump on anything remotely democratic at all and want Obama to fail in a sad attempt to try and regain the power and control they lost after 8 years of the worst president in history.Maybe you should have thought about that back when you were compromising our national security in order to destroy ChimpyBushitler.

Payback is a Bee-yotch.

[Mr. Blue]

Payback is a Bee-yotch.

At some point citizens need to stop thinking about payback and what's right for America. We've allowed the political parties to make our policy issues like a sporting event where we root for one side and boo and hiss the other side.

Only problem, it isn't a game, Dems and Reps, need to grow the hell up already. The last two years of Bush the Dems engaged in a "hands off, don't touch this problem, make sure we win the whitehouse by doing absolutely nothing"...Republicans will do the same now that the Dems have power.

The President, doesn't matter which Pres we're talking about, should be reaching out with an olive branch to the other side, but instead they beat the other side senseless with it.

Everyone, Dems and Reps, enjoy the back and forth...you're all fucking up America :thumbsup:

[MintJulep]

At some point citizens need to stop thinking about payback and what's right for America. We've allowed the political parties to make our policy issues like a sporting event where we root for one side and boo and hiss the other side.

Only problem, it isn't a game, Dems and Reps, need to grow the hell up already. The last two years of Bush the Dems engaged in a "hands off, don't touch this problem, make sure we win the whitehouse by doing absolutely nothing"...Republicans will do the same now that the Dems have power.

The President, doesn't matter which Pres we're talking about, should be reaching out with an olive branch to the other side, but instead they beat the other side senseless with it.

Everyone, Dems and Reps, enjoy the back and forth...you're all fucking up America :thumbsup:Look, I GAVE him the benefit of the doubt when he was first elected and hoped he would govern from the center.

Well, as you can see, that was a pipe dream and he is trying to ram Socialism --and I venture to say, communism-- down our throats with trillion dollar giveaway checks, bank nationalization and the rest of the commie agenda. I'm sorry, but I'm with Rush and the rest of his detractors. I won't sit by and watch my country destroyed by a retarded Marxist with a grudge. This is more than about 'party' for me, pal.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

At some point citizens need to stop thinking about payback and what's right for America. We've allowed the political parties to make our policy issues like a sporting event where we root for one side and boo and hiss the other side.

Only problem, it isn't a game, Dems and Reps, need to grow the hell up already. The last two years of Bush the Dems engaged in a "hands off, don't touch this problem, make sure we win the whitehouse by doing absolutely nothing"...Republicans will do the same now that the Dems have power.

The President, doesn't matter which Pres we're talking about, should be reaching out with an olive branch to the other side, but instead they beat the other side senseless with it.

Everyone, Dems and Reps, enjoy the back and forth...you're all fucking up America :thumbsup:
I totally agree, dems and libs in general did it with bush...but I didnt right away, it was well into his second term when I really saw what Dubya was doing that I spoke about it but the repubs and cons are far worse now with Obama...many have said they wish him to fail and bitch and moan and whine about the most inanely dumb things, Obama tried taking the high road with an olive branch and got the afore mentioned fuck you......if we all dont unite and quit this stupid, childish bs we will fuck things up even more than they already are.

[The Professor]

oh, no, sir

his numbers are UP

way UP

12.3%

deficit is approx 12.3% of gdp

that's suicide

according to jm keynes

himself

poll numbers, you're right, who really cares

especially now

12.3%---everyone who knows which way gravity goes cares

cares a lot

oh well

it was fun while it lasted

cliff

[Life_Long_Dem!]

Look, I GAVE him the benefit of the doubt when he was first elected and hoped he would govern from the center.

Well, as you can see, that was a pipe dream and he is trying to ram Socialism --and I venture to say, communism-- down our throats with trillion dollar giveaway checks, bank nationalization and the rest of the commie agenda. I'm sorry, but I'm with Rush and the rest of his detractors. I won't sit by and watch my country destroyed by a retarded Marxist with a grudge. This is more than about 'party' for me, pal.
Grow up and get over it...stop whinning and actually try helping and try and get this country back right, solve the problem instead of continuing it for once, hell I dont like 100 percent of what Obama does but I am giving him a fair chance to prove himself( far longer than the 2 months or less most cons are hell bent on giving him) this is a big issue to tackle right now and to think things change overnight is assinine

[MintJulep]

Grow up and get over it...stop whinning and actually try helping and try and get this country back right, solve the problem instead of continuing it for once, hell I dont like 100 percent of what Obama does but I am giving him a fair chance to prove himself( far longer than the 2 months or less most cons are hell bent on giving him) this is a big issue to tackle right now and to think things change overnight is assinineI don't want socialism. If that's the track Maobama wants me to get on, hell will freeze over first. He's done nothing but run the Dow into the crapper and write a check that every dime of every 'rich' person COULD NOT pay for and now he is appeasing nutball despots.

Sorry, but I cannot and will not 'jump on board' with that sorry a$$ agenda. Ironically, it was said that Bush was dumb but this teleprompter idiot makes Bush look like a freaking genius. Uh uh uh um um um

[UABblazer]

It is interesting to not that Obama has the highest approval rating of a president at this point in his administration since Reaga. I also find it interesting that SC would title this thread as "Obama- 27% approval rating" which is false in all aspects of the statement.

[Life_Long_Dem!]

I don't want socialism. If that's the track Maobama wants me to get on, hell will freeze over first. He's done nothing but run the Dow into the crapper and write a check that every dime of every 'rich' person COULD NOT pay for and now he is appeasing nutball despots.

Sorry, but I cannot and will not 'jump on board' with that sorry a$$ agenda. Ironically, it was said that Bush was dumb but this teleprompter idiot makes Bush look like a freaking genius. Uh uh uh um um um
sounds like you been drinking the kool-aid of the oxycontin addicted blowhard Rush....stop spewing the same blind party rhetoric and use your brains to think and get views from all sides to decide what to believe...thats what I do, my name say life long dem but I dont just blindly follow them, Open your mind and read a book, check out an independent news site...JUST GET FULLY EDUCATED...blind faith in one party or view is what got us in this friggin mess.

[The Professor]

12.3 is totally unsustainable

economically AND politically

if you love obama, worry

if you love america, it's too late

cliff

[MintJulep]

sounds like you been drinking the kool-aid of the oxycontin addicted blowhard Rush....stop spewing the same blind party rhetoric and use your brains to think and get views from all sides to decide what to believe...thats what I do, my name say life long dem but I dont just blindly follow them, Open your mind and read a book, check out an independent news site...JUST GET FULLY EDUCATED...blind faith in one party or view is what got us in this friggin mess.I don't follow blindly and I am up on current events, thank you very much.

What part of Obama's agenda do you oppose?

[Life_Long_Dem!]

It is interesting to not that Obama has the highest approval rating of a president at this point in his administration since Reaga. I also find it interesting that SC would title this thread as "Obama- 27% approval rating" which is false in all aspects of the statement.
because he wants to get people to read it thinking its true to open it to find out its approval among republican voters...just a sad attempt to fool the masses

[Life_Long_Dem!]

freedom of choice act, the bailouts of the banks...thats the 2 big ones so far.

[The Professor]

politicos talk about minutiae

cliffy talks TWELVE POINT THREE PERCENT

cliffy talks CAP AND TRADE, o's very own smoot-hawley

cliffy talks E-VERIFY

cliffy talks HOME INTEREST DEDUCTION

cliffy doesn't talk POLITICS

cliffy talks AMERICA

cliffy KNOWS

obama's going DOWN

12.3 is unsustainable

not for a SINGLE SEASON

by summer, america is gonna want his SCALP

you'll see

YOU don't even support MORE for chrysler

or GM

or AIG

or fannie/fred

or merrill lynch

just wait til the PUBLIC learns about the merrill lynch BONUSES

100 times AIG's

you keep hearing cliffy talk politics

ie, you are not HEARING cliffy

obama has GONE TOO FAR for his very own supporters on dcj

ie, it's THAT bad

(plus, he's dumber than jimmy carter, he doesn't even understand the TRUTH's i've laid out above)

he sure looks good getting off a plane, tho, i gotta give him that

cliffy

[The Professor]

1. i can't speak for the others, but i am old and sophisticated enough to know---almost no one on this board even listens to rush, we all work

2. ask em, exactly how many of us repuglican'ts, or whatever, listen to rush

3. it's not about party either, if obama governed like a centrist or even a normal human being, you wouldn't see all this angst

4. what it really IS IS the trillions and trillions of things he's done in just 60 days

5. even his supporters are very NERVOUS about deficits EXCEEDing 10% of gdp

6. even his supporters are qualmy about any more bailouts for any more bonus-earners

7. payback has nothing to do with it, either, in amost all our cases, we are genuinely convinced that he's an idiot who doesn't know what he's doing and a socialist who's gonna destroy this country

8. it's spelled aig 3 times, the PELOSI PLAN (where's the change?), the omnibust with the 9000 earmarks according to the dems, the 70 bil for geithner the tax fraud who runs the IRS and mumbles, the cars, the FINING of americans who don't carry health coverage, the 3.75T budget with the 1.75T deficit according to obama...

i could go on and on

believe me

not just words

cliffy really can go on and on

it's not cheap politics

it's SUBSTANCE

i can say the above points ONE HUNDRED times---no one defends HIM against THEM

don't you get it?

ie, it's THAT bad

cliff

[Richard Poor]

LOL, the people polarizing this thing are not the president...the president has been in office for 2 months, not even a chance to do anything much yet. It's talk radio that is polarizing the nation...
How can you state that when he has past ostesnibly the most expensive bill in the history of America with something like three Republican votes only... :banghead: Obviously, the liberal media is affecting your judgment. All in all, the liberals in Congress with their liberal president are doing [spending] whatever they want on whatever they want.

[Richard Poor]

LMAO!!!! this is one of the funnier posts from you cons...making a big deal out of nothing! so his poll numbers are down......NEWSFLASH repubs will never get along with dems....Obama tried it and you guys said fuck you, Obama is not the reason for the divide, nimrods like Rush limbaugh and conservative hacks are, they wont jump on anything remotely democratic at all and want Obama to fail in a sad attempt to try and regain the power and control they lost after 8 years of the worst president in history.Umm, unlike liberals, a good speech does not truly count as trying to get along. Let us be perfectly clear, there has been nothing, of true importance, that has shown that the President, or Congress, is willing to work with Republicans. Stop drinking, the kool-aid and notice that Obama has never truly tried to work with Republicans... try to be honest.

[Richard Poor]

Look, I GAVE him the benefit of the doubt when he was first elected and hoped he would govern from the center.

Well, as you can see, that was a pipe dream and he is trying to ram Socialism --and I venture to say, communism-- down our throats with trillion dollar giveaway checks, bank nationalization and the rest of the commie agenda. I'm sorry, but I'm with Rush and the rest of his detractors. I won't sit by and watch my country destroyed by a retarded Marxist with a grudge. This is more than about 'party' for me, pal.
Excellent post... however, after seeing his racist relationship with Mr. Wright, his lack of leadership experience, his inexperience with working with an opposing party, and listing to high sounding emptiness, I knew he was not good for America. There was no doubt for me... I am too much of a realist to hope that crap can become something different after becoming elected.

[Richard Poor]

I totally agree, dems and libs in general did it with bush...but I didnt right away, it was well into his second term when I really saw what Dubya was doing that I spoke about it but the repubs and cons are far worse now with Obama...many have said they wish him to fail and bitch and moan and whine about the most inanely dumb things, Obama tried taking the high road with an olive branch and got the afore mentioned fuck you......if we all dont unite and quit this stupid, childish bs we will fuck things up even more than they already are.
Again, I call BS! Do you not recall the vitriolic chants of "not my president" after 'W' was rightfully elected? Recall how the democrats embraced Bush before 9/11.

What is funny is that now that Obama won by a large margin of electoral votes... democrats love to chirp how Obama won by a landslide and ignore the fact that he only garnered about 53% of the popular vote. However, when Bush won the electoral vote... all that mattered to democrats was the popular votes. Democrats cannot even be consistent on what they believe in; perhaps because too many on the left do not believe in anything….

[Richard Poor]

Grow up and get over it...stop whinning and actually try helping and try and get this country back right, solve the problem instead of continuing it for once, hell I dont like 100 percent of what Obama does but I am giving him a fair chance to prove himself( far longer than the 2 months or less most cons are hell bent on giving him) this is a big issue to tackle right now and to think things change overnight is assinine
As our friend Zackman likes to remind everyone; in the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president. - Ann Coulter

More importantly, Republicans should work tirelessly to oppose the socialistic policies of Obama, because ultimately their opposition is right for America and Americans...

[Smurf-Herder]

Sorry Mods - I started another thread about this (Obama 27% approval rating) same topic. Can you delete that other thread so we don't have a duplicate?
Sorry.

Somebody responded in that thread already, so I merged them into one, instead.

[Smurf-Herder]

Talk radio and ignorant haters. Who were going to hate him no matter what he says or does because he doesn't agree with the right wing desire to destroy everything in the name of the rich.

But that isn't true.

I for one, agree with trying to limit US and Russian nuke stockpiles to 1500 each; building up in Afghanistan; and trying to talk with Syria - in hopes of luring them away from Iran and getting a peace deal with Israel .............. which actually I think will be broken - but it's worth a shot.

And those are things Obama has in his agenda.

[The Professor]

you robot

i'm SURE rush is TOTALLY into NUMBER SIX

i mean, since you are

what other POSSIBLE explanation

i'm grateful for the reference, i dig it now

truly, when kirk (he's totally into it) explained it to me, oh, several times, i didn't get it like i do now

i get it good enough to make one of my OBSCURE ALLUSIONS even

LOL!

really, i do, and i'm grateful

i will move it UP on my list

you must understand i'd have a list

already longer than a lifetime

right?

you too, obviously

cliff

[The Professor]

Somebody responded in that thread already, so I merged them into one, instead.

seamlessly, sir

LOL!

[Mr. Blue]

Look, I GAVE him the benefit of the doubt when he was first elected and hoped he would govern from the center.

Well, as you can see, that was a pipe dream and he is trying to ram Socialism --and I venture to say, communism-- down our throats with trillion dollar giveaway checks, bank nationalization and the rest of the commie agenda. I'm sorry, but I'm with Rush and the rest of his detractors. I won't sit by and watch my country destroyed by a retarded Marxist with a grudge. This is more than about 'party' for me, pal.

So wait, when Bush was jacking the economy with huge bailouts...what? When Bush was overspending like there was no tomorrow...umm...how did that work for you?

People make it like Obama is doing something radically different, when he's not, he's just being a typical politician, very much in the same vein as Bush. America didn't need a Bush Jr. type politician but that seems to be all we get now.

So, yeah, it is about party with you. You can try to make it something else, but it's not. That's fine, you're in step with most of America at the moment, Reps, Dems, the whole stinking lot of them, because we vote with a myopic view of the world. We vote for substandard politicians that get regurgitated from the bowls of a political machine.

Republicans suddenly throws up their hands at spending, "Ohhhh Noeess, what are you doing?" meanwhile, they had a good old time spending for the last 8 years.

Dems are just as bad, they complain about 8 years of Bush, yet they didn't do anything about it. Even once they got congress, they just looked on the sidelines and made sure they got their pork.

Obama himself, with his little visit to Europe, takes some shots at the Bush Administration...sorry, I don't agree with that, not in front of a bunch of pantywaist Europeans...but bet he scored some political mileage with it.

So, these poll numbers just show a countdown to great divide that will happen in the near future. A political party loses, the voters are so polarized that they're willing to break the country up, and for what? Talking heads that are pretty much the same.

[Reality4u]

While they may be left leaning, I don't see the outright lying that Fox news and people like Rush Limbaugh resort too.

For the third time, could you please post some examples of those "lies"?

[The Professor]

the gentleman himself said it

bush was a loser

and obama is just doing more of the same

except 10 times faster

the bush/obama bailouts

where's the change?

is the change we all hoped for just having a president who talks DOWN the economy

and takes back his tax cuts

cuz, i mean, at least bush smiled

obama is the worst of w-nomics

without the smile

nor the tax cuts

cliff

[Reality4u]

While they may be left leaning, I don't see the outright lying that Fox news and people like Rush Limbaugh resort too.


For the forth time, could you please post some examples of those "lies"?

[Bill Cosby]

Dems are just as bad, they complain about 8 years of Bush, yet they didn't do anything about it. Even once they got congress, they just looked on the sidelines and made sure they got their pork.
.

That is what they call bi-partisanship..... http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2007/01/bush%20pelosi.jpg

[Smurf-Herder]

That is what they call bi-partisanship..... http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2007/01/bush%20pelosi.jpg

Looks like they're arm wrestling. And Pelosi is cheating.

[The Professor]

i still think w can take her

she's really skinny

and kinda shaky

and she BLINKS a lot

LOLOL!

[The Professor]

dcj's right is a hundred times funnier than its left

how come?

[Hog Trash]

Partisan Gap in Obama Job Approval Widest in Modern Era

April 2, 2009

For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades. I can't imagine why anyone would be surprised by this...Anyone not under the Obama spell can see the reality of this evil man.

His policies has worsened 10 fold, an economy already in decline....He has destroyed my grandchildrens future.

The world will be an increasingly more dangerous place for America because of his military and international policies.

If Obama had took a 4 year vacation immediately after swearing in, we would have recovered from this mess much quicker.

And the liberals continue to laugh and dance and pretend Obama is going to save us.......We are so fucked!

[Cat slave]

So wait, when Bush was jacking the economy with huge bailouts...what? When Bush was overspending like there was no tomorrow...umm...how did that work for you?

People make it like Obama is doing something radically different, when he's not, he's just being a typical politician, very much in the same vein as Bush. America didn't need a Bush Jr. type politician but that seems to be all we get now.

So, yeah, it is about party with you. You can try to make it something else, but it's not. That's fine, you're in step with most of America at the moment, Reps, Dems, the whole stinking lot of them, because we vote with a myopic view of the world. We vote for substandard politicians that get regurgitated from the bowls of a political machine.

Republicans suddenly throws up their hands at spending, "Ohhhh Noeess, what are you doing?" meanwhile, they had a good old time spending for the last 8 years.

Dems are just as bad, they complain about 8 years of Bush, yet they didn't do anything about it. Even once they got congress, they just looked on the sidelines and made sure they got their pork.

Obama himself, with his little visit to Europe, takes some shots at the Bush Administration...sorry, I don't agree with that, not in front of a bunch of pantywaist Europeans...but bet he scored some political mileage with it.

So, these poll numbers just show a countdown to great divide that will happen in the near future. A political party loses, the voters are so polarized that they're willing to break the country up, and for what? Talking heads that are pretty much the same.

Bushs spending frenzy doesnt hold a candle to the agenda driven decimation
of our country. God, I remember Bush very fondly now. Never ask how can
it get any worse....it has, big time worse!

[Cat slave]

I can't imagine why anyone would be surprised by this...Anyone not under the Obama spell can see the reality of this evil man.

His policies has worsened 10 fold, an economy already in decline....He has destroyed my grandchildrens future.

The world will be an increasingly more dangerous place for America because of his military and international policies.

If Obama had took a 4 year vacation immediately after swearing in, we would have recovered from this mess much quicker.

And the liberals continue to laugh and dance and pretend Obama is going to save us.......We are so fucked!


That, my friend, is a gross understatement. BO is a Hitler/Stalin personality.
Doesnt anyone remember how Hitler got in? He was elected just like this
traitor from the dark side. Just shows the majority doesnt always know best,
but when you got so many people on the dole, promise them more chickens
in their pots, delivered and already cooked, free (and oxymoron) health care,
free college education (that would be for the illegals since the previously
mentioned block wont lift a finger to do anything), free mortgages, free
bailouts of everything.....who wouldnt vote for him but the clear thinking
conservatives!

And OMG, an IPod to the queen? With country music and clips of the Dark
One riddled through it. It might as well have been watermelon
seeds and a gift card to KFC! Totally incompetent and void of protocol.
And no one is supposed to touch the queen, oh, but the BOs arent subject
to mundane rules of etiquette. Kiss, kiss!!!!

Wonder if anyone ventured to make "them" aware of the demonstrations
taking place down in the streets. Wonder if they can even see the streets
from their lofty summit in the clouds???

[Mr. Blue]

Bushs spending frenzy doesnt hold a candle to the agenda driven decimation
of our country. God, I remember Bush very fondly now. Never ask how can
it get any worse....it has, big time worse!

Horseshit. You should be just as outraged at Bush's spending, be outraged goddamn it, don't make excuses, don't pander to your party, you make it like doubling our deficit was okay because he's a republican or the next guy is going to do more damage.

So, does Obama's spending make Bush better somehow? Are you kidding me? Would Obama have gotten elected if Bush didn't ride the country in the ground?

Seriously, Republican stop making excuses for Bush being incompetent baffoon and Democrats quit blaming everything on Bush and start looking in your own backyard.

[The Professor]

The Bush/Obama Bailouts

ie, where's the CHANGE?

$148 billion: STIMULUS, last Feb, 1 year ago

400 bil: FANNIE & FRED, Summer

150 bil: AIG, Summer

700 bil: TARP, Oct 3, around the time McCain suspended his campaign (LOL!)

30 bil: AUTO's, late Bush admin

780 bil: PELOSI PLAN, Feb

75 bil: HOUSING, Feb

410 bil: OMNIBUS SPENDING, Feb, containing 8000 earmarks

70 bil: GEITHNER PLAN, March

30 bil: AIG, once more, including the Dodd/Geithner bonuses, just a couple weeks ago, the 150 billion 6 months ago apparently is ALL GONE, pissed away, good money after bad

3.75 TRIL: BUDGET, March, including 1.75T deficit (and that's according to Obama himself)

The Prof

[Hog Trash]

That, my friend, is a gross understatement. BO is a Hitler/Stalin personality.
Doesnt anyone remember how Hitler got in? He was elected just like this
traitor from the dark side. Just shows the majority doesnt always know best,
but when you got so many people on the dole, promise them more chickens
in their pots, delivered and already cooked, free (and oxymoron) health care,
free college education (that would be for the illegals since the previously
mentioned block wont lift a finger to do anything), free mortgages, free
bailouts of everything.....who wouldnt vote for him but the clear thinking
conservatives!

And OMG, an IPod to the queen? With country music and clips of the Dark
One riddled through it. It might as well have been watermelon
seeds and a gift card to KFC! Totally incompetent and void of protocol.
And no one is supposed to touch the queen, oh, but the BOs arent subject
to mundane rules of etiquette. Kiss, kiss!!!!

Wonder if anyone ventured to make "them" aware of the demonstrations
taking place down in the streets. Wonder if they can even see the streets
from their lofty summit in the clouds???Bribing the ignorant masses with government freebies is an effective socialist strategy to gain power.

Oh wait!....Hitler, Stalin and Obama are socialist..........OK, I see your point Cat! :thumbsup:

[SeniorChief]

The Bush/Obama Bailouts

ie, where's the CHANGE?

$148 billion: STIMULUS, last Feb, 1 year ago

400 bil: FANNIE & FRED, Summer

150 bil: AIG, Summer

700 bil: TARP, Oct 3, around the time McCain suspended his campaign (LOL!)

30 bil: AUTO's, late Bush admin

780 bil: PELOSI PLAN, Feb

75 bil: HOUSING, Feb

410 bil: OMNIBUS SPENDING, Feb, containing 8000 earmarks

70 bil: GEITHNER PLAN, March

30 bil: AIG, once more, including the Dodd/Geithner bonuses, just a couple weeks ago, the 150 billion 6 months ago apparently is ALL GONE, pissed away, good money after bad

3.75 TRIL: BUDGET, March, including 1.75T deficit (and that's according to Obama himself)

The Prof

Quit dazzling these braindead Liberals with FACTS Professor. They have their noses so imbedded into Obama's anus, they'll never see them.

[Bill Cosby]

Looks like they're arm wrestling. And Pelosi is cheating.

LOL......... Not the way they are looking into each others eyes...... :lmao2:

[Bill Cosby]

Quit dazzling these braindead Liberals with FACTS Professor. They have their noses so imbedded into Obama's anus, they'll never see them.

Are you presently in the service????

[Reality4u]

While they may be left leaning, I don't see the outright lying that Fox news and people like Rush Limbaugh resort too.

I'm still waiting for you to post some examples of these "lies".