Some Gun Control Facts!

[Zeb]

1911 Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1929 The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1935 China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1938 Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 6 to 7 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and 12 million Christians who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1956 Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1964 Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1970 Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Doctors vs. Guns U.S. Statistics:

Number of physicians in the US = 700,000
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year =120,000
Accidental deaths per physician = 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health &
Human Services)
Number of gun owners in the US = 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) =1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner = 0.0000188 (U.S. Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms)
Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous
than gun owners.

Greece. Ireland. Jamaica. Bermuda. England. Canada. New York City. What do all of these countries or jurisdictions have in common? The answer: each government used gun registration lists to later confiscate firearms. more

History repeats itself, always has, always will, and those who haven't learned their history is doomed to repeat with it.

Having the Gold, they were in deed privileged to make the rules. And THAT they finally did with the Federal Reserve Act and the Federal Reserve Bank. This was long after the Militia became such a little known concept that People forgot about their POWER, and the day that they protected themselves from the plundering of the Creditor Class. Since that time there is a continued record of the efforts of the Creditor Class to control the flow of Arms in this land. To prove it, look at the Second Amendment.

The Word "infringed" means to hinder. Yet the Federal Government has hindered the creation and sale (spread) of arms in this land, despite the Second Amendment. And who is in charge of overseeing this hindrance of the People being armed with the only types of weapons that they are allowed to possess pursuant to Miller v. U.S.? The Creditor Class; through their own Branch of Government called the Treasury Department. IRS Garnishment Turns Peaceful Worker Into Killer
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[Hog Trash]

Excellent post! :thumbsup: :happy:

Knowing the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights and particularly the Second Ammendment are sacred inalienable rights, the gun ban activists, mainly the left, has focused their attention on outlawing certain types of firearms, in hopes of eventually whittleling down Americans gun right to owning only weapons that are non-effective for the purpose of self-defense from a tyranical government.

Don't be fooled!....Denying what type of weapon you can own is in violation of the Second Ammendment of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the Untied States of America....No ifs ands or buts!

[Independent Harry]

Excellent post! :thumbsup: :happy:

Knowing the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights and particularly the Second Ammendment are sacred inalienable rights, the gun ban activists, mainly the left, has focused their attention on outlawing certain types of firearms, in hopes of eventually whittleling down Americans gun right to owning only weapons that are non-effective for the purpose of self-defense from a tyranical government.

Don't be fooled!....Denying what type of weapon you can own is in violation of the Second Ammendment of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the Untied States of America....No ifs ands or buts!

oh i don't know about that. I don't thin people should be allowed to own SAM's or Nuclear Arsenal. But automatic rifle bans are stupid.

[Binky]

An excellent post. You've done your homework. You have also paid attention in class. I learned most of this way back while in school ions ago. The rest of it came later after I had graduated and read up and did MY homework as well.

This is what is coming for Americans. Extermination, if we willingly give up our rights to bear arms. Only those with the weapons will survive. The rest will be slaves to those that have. And then there will be others that will go and meet their maker.

[doctordog]

An excellent post. You've done your homework. You have also paid attention in class. I learned most of this way back while in school ions ago. The rest of it came later after I had graduated and read up and did MY homework as well.

This is what is coming for Americans. Extermination, if we willingly give up our rights to bear arms. Only those with the weapons will survive. The rest will be slaves to those that have. And then there will be others that will go and meet their maker.

I have several guns but none will stand up to what the DOD provides soldiers and ops people. However, I might get the opportunity to take a few with me if it ever comes to that.;)

[Mr, gone]

It is unfortunate that the very same entity that is supposed to protect it's citizens, now has the capacity to exterminate very large portions of it in an instant. The weapons that are available and in the hands of the common people now, are merely pea shooters in comparison to what our government arsenals contain.:disbelief:

[Hog Trash]

I don't thin people should be allowed to own SAM's or Nuclear Arsenal.Everybody take note of this rediculous statement by a liberal.

This is an example of their justification every time they ban any particular type of firearm.

By the way einstein, these are explosive devises which are already restricted by other laws.

Do you know why they're restricted by other laws, einstein?....Because they're not considered firearms.

Of all the liberals of the world, the American liberal is the most rediculous and absurd of all...Without a doubt!

[Hog Trash]

The weapons that are available and in the hands of the common people now, are merely pea shooters in comparison to what our government arsenals contain.:disbelief:I have several guns but none will stand up to what the DOD provides soldiers and ops people.Which is exactly the goal of the powers that be.

The United Nations have been a major proponent of a total worldwide civillian gun ban.

Tha United States is the last remaining nation capable of defending itself from a tyranical government.

Why does the government work so hard trying to convince us that we would be much safer without guns?

When the government no longer trusts the people, the people should no longer trust the government.

[Independent Harry]

Everybody take note of this rediculous statement by a liberal.

This is an example of their justification every time they ban any particular type of firearm.

By the way einstein, these are explosive devises which are already restricted by other laws.

Do you know why they're restricted by other laws, einstein?....Because they're not considered firearms.

Of all the liberals of the world, the American liberal is the most rediculous and absurd of all...Without a doubt!

I love how you lie, where did I say we should control guns, I simply stated that SAM devices and nuclear arsenal should not be put in the hands of the general population. Any type of gun including automatic rifles should not be banned.

You Hog love to lie and you just get off on calling anyone who doesn't toe your exact line of thinig a liberal. Which is a pretty obvious tactic of the republicans here.

[Mr. Blue]

Everybody take note of this rediculous statement by a liberal.

You're too stupid to own a fork and knife, let alone a gun, if you could take what Harry said and try to make it a liberal statement.

Oh yeah, everyone should be owning a nuke, good lord are you intentionally trying to make yourself look stupid?

I happen to agree with Harry, reread what he wrote, and then don't play with pointy objects for the rest of the day.

[Hog Trash]

You're too stupid to own a fork and knife, let alone a gun, if you could take what Harry said and try to make it a liberal statement.

Oh yeah, everyone should be owning a nuke, good lord are you intentionally trying to make yourself look stupid?

I happen to agree with Harry, reread what he wrote, and then don't play with pointy objects for the rest of the day.Poor Mr Blue.....It appears my very simple point went right over your head.....Sorry you missed it.

[Mr. Blue]

Poor Mr Blue.....It appears my very simple point went right over your head.....Sorry you missed it.

Hog, really, get your head out of your ass.

Harry owns a gun, he doesn't agree with bans on assault rifles, yet you still try to label him a liberal? Seriously, the only thing he said was SAM's and Nukes, umm, and that was basically just an over the top example of what most people would say is commonsense, but nnooooo, not Hogtrash, he wants to own a shiny nuke.

You've truly lost the one marble you had left rolling around in that head of yours.

[Binky]

I have several guns but none will stand up to what the DOD provides soldiers and ops people. However, I might get the opportunity to take a few with me if it ever comes to that.;)


Better to have one that works than none. No one is saying you need to be a one man army, only that you need to prepare yourself in case they try to haul you off. Better to go down fighting/shooting, than to lie down and let them stomp on you.

[doctordog]

Better to have one that works than none. No one is saying you need to be a one man army, only that you need to prepare yourself in case they try to haul you off. Better to go down fighting/shooting, than to lie down and let them stomp on you.


I agree. I would like to think we would all band together like the movie "V" for Vendetta.

[Hog Trash]

Hog, really, get your head out of your ass.

Harry owns a gun, he doesn't agree with bans on assault rifles, yet you still try to label him a liberal? Obama also claims to be pro-Second Ammendment but like Harry his politics and policies contridict his words!....I've heard many of Harry's views and beilieve me he's as liberal as they come.

Obama claims he supports your right to own a gun, as long as he gets to choose what kind it is and providing the gun and it's ammunition are taxed to the extent that most Americans can't afford them.

No, Im not exagerating and Obama is the man Harry openly and enthusiastcly supports....A mans actions are a better indicator of what's in his heart than the words that come out of his mouth.

You cannot support both Barack Obama and the Second Ammendment!
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[Smurf-Herder]

It is unfortunate that the very same entity that is supposed to protect it's citizens, now has the capacity to exterminate very large portions of it in an instant. The weapons that are available and in the hands of the common people now, are merely pea shooters in comparison to what our government arsenals contain.:disbelief:

Not if you have a really good plan ... :D

Ever heard of military supported popular uprising?

[Mr, gone]

That could be interesting... I would be amazed if such a dissent of our rank in file could take place.

[Independent Harry]

Obama also claims to be pro-Second Ammendment but like Harry his politics and policies contridict his words!....I've heard many of Harry's views and beilieve me he's as liberal as they come.

Obama claims he supports your right to own a gun, as long as he gets to choose what kind it is and providing the gun and it's ammunition are taxed to the extent that most Americans can't afford them.

No, Im not exagerating and Obama is the man Harry openly and enthusiastcly supports....A mans actions are a better indicator of what's in his heart than the words that come out of his mouth.

You cannot support both Barack Obama and the Second Ammendment!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9GwXJNM2c&NR=1

I supported him over Mcain, I also OWN a gun, which is an action that speaks louder than words as you would say. You have read my views through your fillters, which are quite screwed up, so its not surprising you would see me as a liberal...

[Hog Trash]

Originally Posted by Mr, gone

Hog, you can't be serious when you proposed the slobbering masses have nuclear weapon capability are you?I've never said, nor insinuated that.

I can't imagine where you got such a silly idea?

Are you sure you have read my posts carefully?

Maybe you should check before you make an ass out of yourself.

[Independent Harry]

Not if you have a really good plan ... :D

Ever heard of military supported popular uprising?

I tihnk a lot of people in our military would not take the order to fire on their own brothers in sisters.

[Smurf-Herder]

That could be interesting... I would be amazed if such a dissent of our rank in file could take place.

It dependes on the integrity of the individual commanders; and how much they love their counry.

[Smurf-Herder]

I tihnk a lot of people in our military would not take the order to fire on their own brothers in sisters.

Would they defend them from being fired upon by other units who would?

Ever hear of Kent State?

[Independent Harry]

Would they defend them from being fired upon by other units who would?

Ever hear of Kent State?

If my family members were being attacked by anyone, your damn right i would.

[Dale escondido]

If your looking for EXTREME weapons, best to go where guns are banned as a rule of law.
Aks are only 200 bucks in pakistan
Grenades are easily bought in mexico if you need em.:lmao2:
My ar-15 is pretty kick ass.

[Smurf-Herder]

If your looking for EXTREME weapons, best to go where guns are banned as a rule of law.
Aks are only 200 bucks in pakistan
Grenades are easily bought in mexico if you need em.:lmao2:
My ar-15 is pretty kick ass.

I like the idea of a crossbow - you can retrieve your ammo.

And when it comes to an active resistance movement - whatever is handy to sabotage will do .......... if it's even worth staying in the country and trying to resist, that is.

[Dale escondido]

I like the idea of a crossbow - you can retrieve your ammo.

And when it comes to an active resistance movement - whatever is handy to sabotage will do .......... if it's even worth staying in the country and trying to resist, that is.

Actually protecting oneself from the have-nots is probably the biggest problem in an economic collapse.
I have been visiting small towns and the reality is so different and they are close nit communitys.
Kinda like what it should be like everywhere.

[Smurf-Herder]

Actually protecting oneself from the have-nots is probably the biggest problem in an economic collapse.
I have been visiting small towns and the reality is so different and they are close nit communitys.
Kinda like what it should be like everywhere.

Yeah, everybody I talk to is stashing away ammo and unregistered guns.

[doctordog]

Yeah, everybody I talk to is stashing away ammo and unregistered guns.

I have a coach gun in 3 rooms now and a few more pre-ban hand guns with extra clips.

[Mr, gone]

Hog, I thought that my post mentioning you approving of nukes was deleted. I retract that statement due to a groundless accusation. My bad...:o

[ROdger Right]

I like the idea of a crossbow - you can retrieve your ammo.

And when it comes to an active resistance movement - whatever is handy to sabotage will do .......... if it's even worth staying in the country and trying to resist, that is.

Crazy story my dad was shoty with a bolt from a cross bow and it bounced off.:disbelief:

[Binky]

I have several guns but none will stand up to what the DOD provides soldiers and ops people. However, I might get the opportunity to take a few with me if it ever comes to that.;)


Then get a couple before they stop the sale of those that will stand up to theirs. :thumbsup:

[Binky]

I agree. I would like to think we would all band together like the movie "V" for Vendetta.


I hope we don't have to find out.

[Smurf-Herder]

I have a coach gun in 3 rooms now and a few more pre-ban hand guns with extra clips.

I know of people getting fully automatic assault guns off the internet. Uzis and such.

[doctordog]

I know of people getting fully automatic assault guns off the internet. Uzis and such.

most people aren't very accurate with those so IMO they are a total waste of money.

[Smurf-Herder]

most people aren't very accurate with those so IMO they are a total waste of money.

If you're defending yourself against a crazed mob with baseball bats and machetes you don't have to be. As long as you have a greater range.


Just a little "spray" will disperse them.

[Hog Trash]

most people aren't very accurate with those so IMO they are a total waste of money.But their really kool and fun ta shoot! :thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

But their really kool and fun ta shoot! :thumbsup:

I still wanna rocket launcher.

...... much more intimidating.

All you have to do is whip it out ... and watch everybody run for cover. :D

[Hog Trash]

I still wanna rocket launcher.

...... much more intimidating.

All you have to do is whip it out ... and watch everybody run for cover. :DEspecially the French! :lmao2:

[doctordog]

I still wanna rocket launcher.

...... much more intimidating.

All you have to do is whip it out ... and watch everybody run for cover. :D

I prefer a simple Thompson 45 or even a Browning 50 cal. Both are more accurate and have better control characteristics

[Binky]

I know of people getting fully automatic assault guns off the internet. Uzis and such.


Do you blame them? Why have a pea shooter, so to speak, when a bad ass weapon would do the trick?

[Binky]

But their really kool and fun ta shoot! :thumbsup:


You aren't kidding there, Hog. My man and I went to Knob Creek gun range (a huge machine gun shoot outside of Lexington, KY), a few years ago. I have a video of me shooting an AK47. It was so powerful it was all I could do to keep it aimed at the target. It was awesome. What a rush when I had that weapon in my hands. I had never held one like that before. During the time I shot off 50 rounds, the weapon kept going to the left and then moving back to the right and I was using all me strength to keep it aimed straight ahead. Everyone standing on the sidelines scattered to the four winds to get out of the way. It was one of the coolest things I have ever done. I will never forget it. Powerful. :banana: :woohoo:

[Smurf-Herder]

Do you blame them? Why have a pea shooter, so to speak, when a bad ass weapon would do the trick?

No, I don't. People are getting scared, with everything moving so fast.

They're just hiding them away, just in case they need them.

[Binky]

No, I don't. People are getting scared, with everything moving so fast.

They're just hiding them away, just in case they need them.


With darn good reason.

[doctordog]

You aren't kidding there, Hog. My man and I went to Knob Creek gun range (a huge machine gun shoot outside of Lexington, KY), a few years ago. I have a video of me shooting an AK47. It was so powerful it was all I could do to keep it aimed at the target. It was awesome. What a rush when I had that weapon in my hands. I had never held one like that before. During the time I shot off 50 rounds, the weapon kept going to the left and then moving back to the right and I was using all me strength to keep it aimed straight ahead. Everyone standing on the sidelines scattered to the four winds to get out of the way. It was one of the coolest things I have ever done. I will never forget it. Powerful. :banana: :woohoo:

Is that north of Lexington off I-75? I have come in to see the Cats play several times over the years.