It seems Obama has alot of bad luck with his appointees?

[Hog Trash]

Does anybody besides me think it's a little odd that many of Obama's appointees seem to be of questionable character?....Coincidence?....Poor judgement?

Since this is an MSNBC report it most likely has been sanitized to soften any damage to their boy Obama...They've pretty much been in his corner all along.FBI makes arrest at D.C. government office

Obama administration recently tapped office chief Kundra for new role
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Feds raid D.C. tech offices
Federal agents have reportedly raided the offices of the Washington, D.C., chief technology officer stemming from an apparent ongoing corruption investigation. NBC’s Pete Williams reports.
MSNBC

updated 6:25 p.m. ET, Thurs., March. 12, 2009

WASHINGTON - A District of Columbia employee and a technology consultant were charged with corruption Thursday after a raid on the former office of a city official who now works for President Barack Obama.

The charges were formalized in a federal court hearing as the FBI finished searching the city's technology office, which was led until recently by Obama's new computer chief, Vivek Kundra.

Yusuf Acar, the acting chief security officer in the city's technology office, was ordered held without bond pending a hearing Tuesday. Prosecutors said $70,000 in cash was found during a search of Acar's Washington home and that he posed a serious flight risk.

Technology consultant Sushil Bansal of Dunn Loring, Va., was released but was ordered not to conduct overseas financial transactions or leave the Washington metropolitan area. Bansal is due back in court on April 21, and prosecutors said they were hopeful that a plea agreement could be reached in his case.

Acar worked under Kundra, Obama's pick to coordinate federal computer systems. Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs would not say whether the White House knew the investigation was under way when it named Kundra last week, but called the case "a serious matter."

Acar, a 40-year-old native of Turkey, had a $127,468-a-year position purchasing the city's computer equipment and lining up contract workers for numerous city agencies, according to court documents.

Schemes and 'ghost' contracts
Authorities say Acar and Bansal, along with others, defrauded the government through a variety of schemes, including billing the city for items that were never delivered and "ghost" contract employees who did not work. The scheme involved Acar approving falsified bills and splitting the money with vendors including Bansal, who submitted them, court documents alleged.

Bansal, a native of India who turns 42 next week, is a former city employee and the founder and chief executive of Advanced Integrated Technologies Corp. The company has offices in Washington and India and did more than $13 million in business with the District of Columbia government in the past five years, according to court documents.

One contract involved providing computer support for the city's Department of Motor Vehicles. The company also was given a contract to upgrade the city's human resources computer records and sold virus detection software to the city.

In August Bansal was named entrepreneur of the year by the Association of Indians in America.

An FBI affidavit supporting the arrest warrants indicates that several other businesses and individuals were involved in the alleged schemes, but the other people are identified only by their initials.

The FBI worked with another employee in the city's technology office, who was in on the scheme and secretly recorded conversations with Acar and Bansal as part of the investigation.

In 2007, federal investigators uncovered a massive embezzlement scheme in the city's tax office.

Men and women dressed in suits and wearing latex gloves could be seen entering and leaving the glass-enclosed lobby of the Office of the Chief Technology Officer on Thursday afternoon.

Gibbs said the Justice Department notified lawyers of the search before hand. But another White House spokesman, Ben LaBolt, later said the department didn't give the White House a heads-up.

Even as the raid was taking place, Kundra was giving a speech at FOSE, an annual government technology expo. Kundra said part of his focus is to change the way the government buys technologies from vendors.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29657487/

[GetAClue]

Wow, BHO's character could be in question here? Who would have thought? From all that I heard during the election, any attempts to judge his character or his judgement based on his relationships was just people trying to change the subject from what he was saying.

Sounds like they might have been on to something.

[Hog Trash]

Wow, BHO's character could be in question here? Who would have thought? From all that I heard during the election, any attempts to judge his character or his judgement based on his relationships was just people trying to change the subject from what he was saying.

Sounds like they might have been on to something.Obama's character has always been in question to people not blinded by his dazzle or baffled by his bullshit.

[GetAClue]

Obama's character has always been in question to people not blinded by his dazzle or baffled by his bullshit.

I agree completely. :thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

He's the epitome of the D.C. political con artist.

[The_Limit]

You guys are way off base.

[Smurf-Herder]

You guys are way off base.

You're just another "useful idiot" - look up the term.

[The_Limit]

You're just another "useful idiot" - look up the term.

No. I'm not going to get into a personal insult debate with you.

[mwillman]

Dont worry limit, these guys are just extremist nuts.

They cant even recognize that one of the main reasons they are having a hard time filling some of the positions because President Obama has put limits on what people can do during and after they take the positions.

Its his stand on lobbying that is keeping some people away from the positions.

[GetAClue]

Dont worry limit, these guys are just extremist nuts.

They cant even recognize that one of the main reasons they are having a hard time filling some of the positions because President Obama has put limits on what people can do during and after they take the positions.

Its his stand on lobbying that is keeping some people away from the positions.

Yea, like pay their taxes!:lmao2:

[mwillman]

Yes, they have to pay their taxes and they cant lobby and they cant be republican stooges.

[foxbaron]

[QUOTE=Hog Trash]Does anybody besides me think it's a little odd that many of Obama's appointees seem to be of questionable character?....Coincidence?....Poor judgement?


When all the people you know are crooks and shitbags it is kinda hard to find honest qualified folks because the honest and qualified have standards.

[Smurf-Herder]

Yes, they have to pay their taxes and they cant lobby and they cant be republican stooges.

Wasn't the Assistant Secretary of Defense he appointed a former Lobbyist for defense contractors?

So even if they don't pay their taxes, they can still be appointed if they pay them at the last minute?

[mwillman]

Yes there was one exemption and look how you jump on that like its the end of the world.

He is less likely to do it again which is more reason its hard to fill positions that have been going to bankers and lobbyist for most of the last 30 years.

Im fine with a critical analysis of the politicians but Im also aware of how many of the right will do just about anything to see him fail.

[Smurf-Herder]

Yes there was one exemption and look how you jump on that like its the end of the world.

He is less likely to do it again which is more reason its hard to fill positions that have been going to bankers and lobbyist for most of the last 30 years.

Im fine with a critical analysis of the politicians but Im also aware of how many of the right will do just about anything to see him fail.

How about his appointees who got big bonuses working for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

And how many appointees were there that owed back taxes?

This thread is because of the unprecedented number of problems with appointees.

[Cat slave]

He doesnt know anyone of any character. Just a bunch of crooks and
racists!

[GetAClue]

Yes, they have to pay their taxes and they cant lobby and they cant be republican stooges.

Shouldn't they pay them, BEFORE they are nominated? Face it, BHO's administration is filled with crooks and unscrupulus individuals. You know what they say, you can judge a person by the company he keeps.

[mwillman]

Please your holier then thou hypocrisy is boring me.

I don't see you ass hats doing anything except bitching and to be honest
you don't even know what your bitching about half the time.

Everyone's bad your all good, whah whah wah.

[GetAClue]

Please your holier then thou hypocrisy is boring me.

I don't see you ass hats doing anything except bitching and to be honest
you don't even know what your bitching about half the time.

Everyone's bad your all good, whah whah wah.

MY hyporisy? Are you serious? I'm not the one that appointed a tax cheat to run the IRS or appointed form lobyest's in my administration after stating during the campaign that those people had no place in my administration. I paid MY taxes!

You need to pull your head out of BHO's rear-end before you suffer colon cancer in your scalp.

[mwillman]

yes your hypocrisy and the rest of the whining do nothings on this board.

What are you doing about the economy.
Thats right nothing but you sure have an opinion.
I don't see any solutions from any of you all I see is bitching and
ignorant complaints.
Many around here complain like there is no tomorrow but in the end
you are nothing.

[doctordog]

yes your hypocrisy and the rest of the whining do nothings on this board.

What are you doing about the economy.
Thats right nothing but you sure have an opinion.
I don't see any solutions from any of you all I see is bitching and
ignorant complaints.
Many around here complain like there is no tomorrow but in the end
you are nothing.

No wonder California is 45 million in the hole, too many damn pessimists!

[MintJulep]

bump.................

[Hog Trash]

yes your hypocrisy and the rest of the whining do nothings on this board.

What are you doing about the economy.
Thats right nothing but you sure have an opinion.
I don't see any solutions from any of you all I see is bitching and
ignorant complaints.
Many around here complain like there is no tomorrow but in the end
you are nothing.There's nothing we can do about the economy....I'm just sitting back watching helplessly while Obama uses this crisis as a tool to destroy America.

But his loyal followers will defend him untill the end...Our tombstone will read: "Obama tried courageously to save us from the destruction that Bush brought upon us...Long live Obama."

[Smurf-Herder]

There's nothing we can do about the economy....I'm just sitting back watching helplessly while Obama uses this crisis as a tool to destroy America.

But his loyal followers will defend him untill the end...Our tombstone will read: "Obama tried courageously to save us from the destruction that Bush brought upon us...Long live Obama."

I found this interesting. Obama taking all the blame on his shoulders, while maintaning his innocence. Effectively symbolizing himself as the suffering Messiah - the man without sin taking on all the sins of mankind.

Obama Accepts Blame for AIG Bonuses

"Washington is all in a tizzy and everybody is pointing fingers at each other and saying it's their fault, the Democrats' fault, the Republicans' fault," he said at a town hall meeting Wednesday. "Listen, I'll take responsibility. I'm the President."

He also make clear that it isn't really his fault. "We didn't grant these contracts," he said.

But he added: "So for everybody in Washington who's busy scrambling, trying to figure out how to blame somebody else, just go ahead and talk to me, because it's my job to make sure that we fix these messes, even if I don't make them."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123742582093579655.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[GetAClue]

yes your hypocrisy and the rest of the whining do nothings on this board.

What are you doing about the economy.
Thats right nothing but you sure have an opinion.
I don't see any solutions from any of you all I see is bitching and
ignorant complaints.
Many around here complain like there is no tomorrow but in the end
you are nothing.

Are you for real? You cannot be as stupid as you post. But tell you what, here is an idea.

The major problem suffered by individuals is the lost of their jobs, would you agree? If we could get people back to work, that would most likely help stimulate the economy, correct? And if he fostered in environment where they could actually work and maintain a job, long term (and not just until the new bus stop with some congressmans name on it is finished), the economy might pick up.

So my suggestion is that we create an atomosphere that would attract buisness's to invest and produce products that could be sold. In order to do that, we need to make it easier to do buisness. Therefore, if we CUT the corporate tax rate, lowered the capital gains taxes and reduced (if not REMOVED) the minimum wage, those with funds to invest may actually choose to invest in buisneses that had a chance to return a profit for their investment.

What we DON'T need is the government picking the winners and losers in this environment by granting bailouts or subsides to those buisnesses that are towing the flavor of the day populist line. Let buisness prosper by taking advantage of the free market (something we have not seen in this country in close to 100 yrs).

But that would actually require liberals to become producers instead of sitting by taking advantage of the government confiscating the assets of those that are producing and distributing to those that are too lazy to work for a living.

[bairdi]

Are you for real? You cannot be as stupid as you post. But tell you what, here is an idea.

The major problem suffered by individuals is the lost of their jobs, would you agree? If we could get people back to work, that would most likely help stimulate the economy, correct? And if he fostered in environment where they could actually work and maintain a job, long term (and not just until the new bus stop with some congressmans name on it is finished), the economy might pick up.

So my suggestion is that we create an atomosphere that would attract buisness's to invest and produce products that could be sold. In order to do that, we need to make it easier to do buisness. Therefore, if we CUT the corporate tax rate, lowered the capital gains taxes and reduced (if not REMOVED) the minimum wage, those with funds to invest may actually choose to invest in buisneses that had a chance to return a profit for their investment.

What we DON'T need is the government picking the winners and losers in this environment by granting bailouts or subsides to those buisnesses that are towing the flavor of the day populist line. Let buisness prosper by taking advantage of the free market (something we have not seen in this country in close to 100 yrs).

But that would actually require liberals to become producers instead of sitting by taking advantage of the government confiscating the assets of those that are producing and distributing to those that are too lazy to work for a living.
So your solution for the current economic situation is to let the fat cats skim off and manipulate even more wealth while at the same time screwing the real producers, the workers, by lowering their wages?

[mwillman]

Exactly Bairdi,

They like to throw out comments like stupid but in the end whats stupid is how they can so willingly give away the rights of the middle class and working class on the off chance they might get rich some day.

To me that's stupid.

[GetAClue]

Exactly Bairdi,

They like to throw out comments like stupid but in the end whats stupid is how they can so willingly give away the rights of the middle class and working class on the off chance they might get rich some day.

To me that's stupid.

You lefties just are so anti-capitalist that you would slit your own thoats to prove a point. At least you have that conviction.

I don't know about you, but it is quite apparent that discouraging buisness and investment will do nothing but drive them elsewhere. But as long as you have the government to bail you out, you believe you will be ok.

Problem is, once all the capital and buisness leave for greener pastures, who will the government confiscate money from?

[mwillman]

And you righties are so pro chaos that you would sell yourselves and your children on the off chance you will get rich.

Capitalism without regulation is not heaven on earth it just gives the ultra rich the ultimate power while making slaves of the masses.

[doctordog]

And you righties are so pro chaos that you would sell yourselves and your children on the off chance you will get rich.

Capitalism without regulation is not heaven on earth it just gives the ultra rich the ultimate power while making slaves of the masses.

Actually what Obama is trying do now is make slaves out of the responible working class while giving the welfare class and irresponsible all this free moeny.

[Smurf-Herder]

And you righties are so pro chaos that you would sell yourselves and your children on the off chance you will get rich.

Capitalism without regulation is not heaven on earth it just gives the ultra rich the ultimate power while making slaves of the masses.

And both sides are fighting among themselves over wealth envy; allowing the government to gain control over all involved.

[mwillman]

Please save you conspiracy theories for fiction night.

So your saying our government wants the rich and the poor to be fighting each other so that they can take control of the world.

Do you know how stupid that sounds. How about the rich who already control most of the government and the world are trying to make it look like they are victims when in truth they are the perpetrators.

Your argument is fucking laughable at best. The poor rich, hahaha

[Smurf-Herder]

Please save you conspiracy theories for fiction night.

So your saying our government wants the rich and the poor to be fighting each other so that they can take control of the world.

Do you know how stupid that sounds. How about the rich who already control most of the government and the world are trying to make it look like they are victims when in truth they are the perpetrators.

Your argument is fucking laughable at best. The poor rich, hahaha

Isn't that how most communist revolutions started?

What does power want? - more power.

[mwillman]

No most communist revolutions started because the rich had way to much power over the masses and they were treating them like property. Of course most often the Rich have been the ones that represented government especially in the aristocratic societies of Russia, China. Hell even Cuba was fighting over the fact that a small group of people controlled everything and were treating the masses as if they were property.

The lesson to be learned and Republicans seem to have forgotten this is either keep the masses contented or you will loose their ire. Which is of course why republicans are now out of power.

[Smurf-Herder]

No most communist revolutions started because the rich had way to much power over the masses and they were treating them like property. Of course most often the Rich have been the ones that represented government especially in the aristocratic societies of Russia, China. Hell even Cuba was fighting over the fact that a small group of people controlled everything and were treating the masses as if they were property.

The lesson to be learned and Republicans seem to have forgotten this is either keep the masses contented or you will loose their ire. Which is of course why republicans are now out of power.

So the Democrats keep the masses contented by stealing from the rich to give to the poor, until there's no more money for anybody but the government.

[doctordog]

No most communist revolutions started because the rich had way to much power over the masses and they were treating them like property. Of course most often the Rich have been the ones that represented government especially in the aristocratic societies of Russia, China. Hell even Cuba was fighting over the fact that a small group of people controlled everything and were treating the masses as if they were property.

The lesson to be learned and Republicans seem to have forgotten this is either keep the masses contented or you will loose their ire. Which is of course why republicans are now out of power.

And look at us now, huge debt expenditures on welfare, failed mortgages, and banking without little or no thought to job creation. The first big bill contains almost 9,000 earmarks. We have went from the fleecing of America to the total ass rape of America just 2 months into Obama's term.

Does anyone here remember O'Neil and Carter, well that was nothing compared to Pelosi Obama.

[Smurf-Herder]

And look at us now, huge debt expenditures on welfare, failed mortgages, and banking without little or no thought to job creation. The first big bill contains almost 9,000 earmarks. We have went from the fleecing of America to the total ass rape of America just 2 months into Obama's term.

Does anyone here remember O'Neil and Carter, well that was nothing compared to Pelosi Obama.

If we're getting ass raped in only two months, Washington will be contemplating necrophilia by the 2010 mid-term elections.

Owww! :noway:

[mwillman]

I find it sad that you people always want to blame the poor for things they have no power over specifically money.

We are in huge debt becuase of Republicans no matter how many times you try and act like it was the democrats. The Rebublicans were the ones in power for most of the last 30 years so if you dont like were we are then at least learn to blame the right fucking people.

Its the same old crap the republicans create a huge fucking mess and then when the Democrats are forced to spend to fix it they get blamed for spending.

I know it can't be proven but I truly believe that if Al Gore had not had the election stolen from him we would not be in the huge debt we are in now.

We got ass raped for 8 years dumb asses.

[doctordog]

I find it sad that you people always want to blame the poor for things they have no power over specifically money.

We are in huge debt becuase of Republicans no matter how many times you try and act like it was the democrats. The Rebublicans were the ones in power for most of the last 30 years so if you dont like were we are then at least learn to blame the right fucking people.

Its the same old crap the republicans create a huge fucking mess and then when the Democrats are forced to spend to fix it they get blamed for spending.

I know it can't be proven but I truly believe that if Al Gore had not had the election stolen from him we would not be in the huge debt we are in now.

We got ass raped for 8 years dumb asses.

Al Gore was a loser before he ran for President and he is a loser now. Reagans economic plans kept our economy growing for the better part of 25 years. Obama was aware of what Reagan did and did exactly the opposite. Obama's approval ratings are taking on water faster than the Titanic. Al Gore:lmao2: stop it! AL GOREhttp://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1231_hysterically_laughing.gif

STOP IT!

[mwillman]

Bush was a corrupt republican loser who had failed at everything he ever tried.

Now we are paying for his biggest mistake to date and you just keep screaming socialist like the ignorant brain washed right winger that you are.

[GetAClue]

I know it can't be proven but I truly believe that if Al Gore had not had the election stolen from him we would not be in the huge debt we are in now.


Now that is funny. :lmao2: You are right, we would not he in a huge debt now. We would all be praying towards Mecca 3 times a day! He would have surrendered to the terrorists after 9/11!

[Hog Trash]

Originally Posted by mwillman
I know it can't be proven but I truly believe that if Al Gore had not had the election stolen from him we would not be in the huge debt we are in now.
Now that is funny. :lmao2: You are right, we would not he in a huge debt now. We would all be praying towards Mecca 3 times a day! He would have surrendered to the terrorists after 9/11!Willy is an idiot and this would be funny as hell except for the point that there are millions of idiots just like him along with many young gullible Americans who are also registered voters.