YOUR THOUGHT YOU LIVE IN AMERICA...HIDE YOUR GUNS

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/30/BAG4NOUOVE1.DTL&hw=Suit+alleges+that+police+did+strip+searches+in+ public&sn=001&sc=1000

OAKLAND
Suit alleges police did strip searches in public
Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, March 30, 2007

In the latest of several suits over strip searches, seven men have filed a $5 million federal civil rights lawsuit against the city of Oakland, saying officers conducted invasive and illegal strip searches of them in public.

In the suit filed Wednesdayin U.S. District Court in San Francisco, the plaintiffs said police officers pulled down their pants and exposed their genitalia or buttocks on the street during incidents from 2005 to 2007.

The searches allegedly occurred in public throughout the city, including along West MacArthur Boulevard and Martin Luther King Jr. Way -- both major thoroughfares in West Oakland -- and near the intersections of 89th Avenue and Plymouth Street and of International Boulevard and 50th Avenue, according to the suit.

"Plaintiffs suffered severe and extreme emotional distress, fear, terror, anxiety, humiliation and loss of their sense of security, dignity and pride as United States citizens," the suit says. "Plaintiffs were illegally strip-searched by the defendant officers noted herein without any just provocation or probable cause."

Erica Harrold, spokeswoman for Oakland City Attorney John Russo, said the allegations "are very serious" and reserved further comment until city officials had a chance to review the complaint.

The suit was filed by Oakland civil rights attorneys John Burris and Michael Haddad, who have filed five other similar suits on behalf of eight other men.

"Oakland is the only police department of which we, and the OPD, are aware that has a written policy allowing officers to conduct strip searches on the street," Haddad said Thursday. "We contend that such searches are clearly unconstitutional."

"These humiliating searches are made worse" by the apparent singling out by police of African Americans that are searched, Haddad said. All but one of the plaintiffs in this suit are African American.

Burris said the practice "undermines the relationship" between police and the community. The suit was filed the same day that another suit was filed accusing Alameda County of illegally strip-searching youths at Juvenile Hall in San Leandro.

[Caskey_91]

Well thats America and it's government for ya.

They don;t seem to give a S*** about the constitution anymore and it is a shame.

[Bill]

One of the arguments I always have with the few good old boys I occasionaly drink with is about gun confiscation.

" Them Democrats is gonna take our guns...", they whine.

I tell em, "That's just stupid.". (You can imagine how they like that, but I'm a big guy, they bristle but they can't actually attack me.) "It's the republicans who are planning to confiscate guns. It's the republicans who want the police state. Everything the republicans do is about their future vision of a police state. When the gun police come knockin', it's going to be in a republican administration.".

As you can imagine, the argument goes on. Those boys buy the party line hook line and sinker - dems hate guns, repubs love guns.

I've said this before - if the dems want to capture the popular heart, all they have to do is give up the urban obsession with gun control. They can pass all the draconiam laws against gun crimes they want - personally I like the idea of a "shoot your wife, jail for life" law - but if they say "We approve of the idea of an armed citizenry as a defense against government oppression.", they will be loved like no political party has ever been loved before.

[exarmyranger]

The N.R.A. and those who lobbie against any "further" deletions,or revision to the text that remains intact,as it is set down in the 2nd Amendment...The N.R.A.'s, "2nd Amendment Task Force" and thier constant villigence of any/all proposed Bill's before the House that pertains to the 2nd.amendment...It is these men/women who loudly voice :rant: thier oposition :talktothehand: and imo the only remaining wall left between "The People's Right to Own and Bear Arm's",and the W.H.'s ongoing attempt's to remove that right from us.I can't recall any mention of "The Police Department's Right to Detain and Bear Your Ass.. :lmao2: .But it would'nt suprize me if they snuck that one in when we were'nt looking. :rolleyes: ex

[exarmyranger]

One of the arguments I always have with the few good old boys I occasionaly drink with is about gun confiscation.

" Them Democrats is gonna take our guns...", they whine.

I tell em, "That's just stupid.". (You can imagine how they like that, but I'm a big guy, they bristle but they can't actually attack me.) "It's the republicans who are planning to confiscate guns. It's the republicans who want the police state. Everything the republicans do is about their future vision of a police state. When the gun police come knockin', it's going to be in a republican administration.".

As you can imagine, the argument goes on. Those boys buy the party line hook line and sinker - dems hate guns, repubs love guns.

I've said this before - if the dems want to capture the popular heart, all they have to do is give up the urban obsession with gun control. They can pass all the draconiam laws against gun crimes they want - personally I like the idea of a "shoot your wife, jail for life" law - but if they say "We approve of the idea of an armed citizenry as a defense against government oppression.", they will be loved like no political party has ever been loved before.
:oldman: Yes Sir,My Daddy alaay's told me "Son,(he always called me that,bless his soul...sniff.)Son he'd say,remember this about keeping a pistola...It's a helluva lot better to have a gun and never have the need to use it;Than it is to need a gun and not have one to use... :thumbsup:t/c ex

[Linkster]

There's some pissed off good ole boys down here - after Katrina when people started getting their weapons taken away