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Hog Trash
01-07-2009, 11:09 AM
I had no idea just how evil and dangerous George Soros really is.

He may be the worlds most dangerous threat to America and Democracy....Seriously!

This man is worth more than 7 billion dollars and he hates America and intends too use his fortune to destroy it.
Having experienced this success in 2000, Soros moved to exploit the power of 527s on a much larger scale during the 2004 election cycle. Toward that end, he was a key force in the creation of the so-called “Shadow Party” in 2003. This term refers to a nationwide network of unions, non-profit activist groups, and think tanks whose agendas are ideologically to the left, and which are engaged in campaigning for the Democrats. This network's activities include fundraising, get-out-the-vote drives, political advertising, opposition research, and media manipulation.

According to Richard Poe, co-author (with David Horowitz) of the book The Shadow Party:

"The Shadow Party is the real power driving the Democrat machine. It is a network of radicals dedicated to transforming our constitutional republic into a socialist hive. The leader of these radicals is ... George Soros. He has essentially privatized the Democratic Party, bringing it under his personal control. The Shadow Party is the instrument through which he exerts that control.... It works by siphoning off hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions that would have gone to the Democratic Party in normal times, and putting those contributions at the personal disposal of Mr. Soros. He then uses that money to buy influence and loyalty where he sees fit. In 2003, Soros set up a network of privately-owned groups which acts as a shadow or mirror image of the Party. It performs all the functions we would normally expect the real Democratic Party to perform, such as shaping the Party platform, fielding candidates, running campaigns, and so forth. However, it performs these functions under the private supervision of Mr. Soros and his associates. The Shadow Party derives its power from its ability to raise huge sums of money. By controlling the Democrat purse strings, the Shadow Party can make or break any Democrat candidate by deciding whether or not to fund him. During the 2004 election cycle, the Shadow Party raised more than $300 million for Democrat candidates, prompting one of its operatives, MoveOn PAC director Eli Pariser, to declare, 'Now it’s our party. We bought it, we own it.…'"

In a November 11, 2003 interview with Laura Blumenfeld of the Washington Post, Soros described how he had jump-started the Shadow Party during the summer of 2002 by summoning a team of political strategists, activists, and Democrat donors to his Southampton beach house in Long Island. The attendees included: Morton H. Halperin (Director of Soros' Open Society Institute); John Podesta (Democrat strategist and former Bill Clinton chief of staff); Jeremy Rosner (Democrat strategist and pollster, and ex-foreign policy speechwriter for Bill Clinton); Robert Boorstin (Democrat strategist and pollster); Carl Pope (America Coming Together co-founder, Democrat strategist, and Sierra Club Executive Director); Steve Rosenthal (Labor leader, CEO of America Coming Together, and former advisor to Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich); Peter Lewis (major Democrat donor and insurance entrepreneur); Rob Glaser (major Democrat donor and Silicon Valley pioneer); Ellen Malcolm (co-founder and President of America Coming Together and founder of Emily's List); Rob McKay (major Democrat donor); and Lewis and Dorothy Cullman (major Democrat donors).
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In 1979 Soros established the Open Society Institute (OSI), which serves as the flagship of a network of Soros foundations that donate tens of millions of dollars each year to a wide array of individuals and organizations that share the founder's agendas. Those agendas can be summarized as follows:

promoting the view that America is institutionally an oppressive nation

promoting the election of leftist political candidates throughout the United States

opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government, particularly the Patriot Act

depicting American military actions as unjust, unwarranted, and immoral

promoting open borders, mass immigration, and a watering down of current immigration laws

promoting a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs funded by ever-escalating taxes

promoting social welfare benefits and amnesty for illegal aliens

defending the civil rights and liberties of suspected anti-American terrorists and their abetters

financing the recruitment and training of future activist leaders of the political Left

advocating America’s unilateral disarmament and/or a steep reduction in its military spending

opposing the death penalty in all circumstances

promoting socialized medicine in the United States

promoting the tenets of radical environmentalism, whose ultimate goal, as writer Michael Berliner has explained, is “not clean air and clean water, [but] rather ... the demolition of technological/industrial civilization”

bringing American foreign policy under the control of the United Nations

promoting racial and ethnic preferences in academia and the business world alike

promoting taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand

advocating stricter gun-control measures

advocating the legalization of marijuana
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Organizations that, in recent years, have received direct funding and assistance from George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI) include the following. (Comprehensive profiles of each are available in the "Groups" section of DiscoverTheNetworks.org):

Alliance for Justice: Best known for its activism vis a vis the appointment of federal judges, this group consistently depicts Republican judicial nominees as "extremists."

America Coming Together: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to coordinate and organize pro-Democrat voter-mobilization programs.

America Votes: Soros also played a major role in creating this group, whose get-out-the-vote campaigns targeted likely Democratic voters.

American Civil Liberties Union: This group opposes virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government. It supports open borders, has rushed to the defense of suspected terrorists and their abettors, and appointed former New Left terrorist Bernardine Dohrn to its Advisory Board.

American Constitution Society for Law and Policy: This Washington, DC-based think tank seeks to move American jurisprudence to the left by recruiting, indoctrinating, and mobilizing young law students, helping them acquire positions of power. It also provides leftist Democrats with a bully pulpit from which to denounce their political adversaries.

American Family Voices: This group creates and coordinates media campaigns charging Republicans with wrongdoing.

American Friends Service Committee: This group views the United States as the principal cause of human suffering around the world. As such, it favors America's unilateral disarmament, the dissolution of American borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, the abolition of the death penalty, and the repeal of the Patriot Act.

American Immigration Law Foundation: This group supports amnesty for illegal aliens, on whose behalf it litigates against the U.S. government.

American Library Association: This group has been an outspoken critic of the Bush administration's War on Terror -- most particularly, Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act, which it calls "a present danger to the constitutional rights and privacy rights of library users."

The American Prospect, Inc.: This corporation trains and mentors young leftwing journalists, and organizes strategy meetings for leftist leaders.

Amnesty International: This organization directs a grossly disproportionate share of its criticism for human rights violations at the United States and Israel.

Arab American Institute Foundation: The Arab American Institute denounces the purportedly widespread civil liberties violations directed against Arab Americans in the post-9/11 period, and characterizes Israel as a brutal oppressor of the Palestinian people.

Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now: This group conducts voter mobilization drives on behalf of leftist Democrats. These initiatives have been notoriously marred by fraud and corruption.

Bill of Rights Defense Committee: This group provides a detailed blueprint for activists interested in getting their local towns, cities, and even college campuses to publicly declare their opposition to the Patriot Act, and to designate themselves "Civil Liberties Safe Zones." The organization also came to the defense of self-described radical attorney Lynne Stewart, who was convicted in 2005 of providing material support for terrorism.

Brennan Center for Justice: This think tank/legal activist group generates scholarly studies, mounts media campaigns, files amicus briefs, gives pro bono support to activists, and litigates test cases in pursuit of radical "change."

Brookings Institution: This organization has been involved with a variety of internationalist and state-sponsored programs, including one that aspires to facilitate the establishment of a U.N.-dominated world government. Brookings Fellows have also called for additional global collaboration on trade and banking; the expansion of the Kyoto Protocol; and nationalized health insurance for children. Nine Brookings economists signed a petition opposing President Bush's tax cuts in 2003.

Campaign for America's Future: This group supports tax hikes, socialized medicine, and a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs.

Campus Progress: A project of the Soros-bankrolled Center for American Progress, this group seeks to "strengthen progressive voices on college and university campuses, counter the growing influence of right-wing groups on campus, and empower new generations of progressive leaders."

Catholics for a Free Choice: This nominally Catholic organization supports women's right to abortion-on-demand.

Center for American Progress: This leftist think tank is headed by former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta, works closely with Hillary Clinton, and employs numerous former Clinton administration staffers. It is committed to "developing a long-term vision of a progressive America" and "providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals."

Center for Community Change: This group recruits and trains activists to spearhead leftist "political issue campaigns." Promoting increased funding for social welfare programs by bringing "attention to major national issues related to poverty," the Center bases its training programs on the techniques taught by the famed radical organizer Saul Alinsky.

Center for Constitutional Rights: This pro-Castro organization is a core member of the open borders lobby, has opposed virtually all post-9/11 anti-terrorism measures by the U.S. government, and alleges that American injustice provokes acts of international terrorism.

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: Reasoning from the premise that tax cuts generally help only the wealthy, this organization advocates greater tax expenditures on social welfare programs for low earners.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington: This group litigates and brings ethics charges against "government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests" and "betray the public trust." Almost all of its targets are Republicans.

Coalition for an International Criminal Court: This group seeks to subordinate American criminal-justice procedures to those of an international court.

Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund: Defenders of Wildlife opposes oil exploration in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It condemns logging, ranching, mining, and even the use of recreational motorized vehicles as activities that are destructive to the environment.

Democracy Alliance: This self-described "liberal organization" aims to raise $200 million to develop a funding clearinghouse for leftist groups. Soros is a major donor to this group.

Democracy 21: This group is a staunch supporter of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold Act.

Democratic Party: Soros' funding activities are devoted largely to helping the Democratic Party solidify its power base. In a November 2003 interview, Soros stated that defeating President Bush in 2004 "is the central focus of my life" ... "a matter of life and death." He pledged to raise $75 million to defeat Bush, and personally donated nearly a third of that amount to anti-Bush organizations. "America under Bush," he said, "is a danger to the world, and I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is." Claiming that "the Republican party has been captured by a bunch of extremists," Soros accuses the Bush administration of following a "supremacist ideology" in whose rhetoric he claims to hear echoes of "Nazi slogans."

Earthjustice: This group seeks to place severe restrictions on how U.S. land and waterways may be used. It opposes most mining and logging initiatives, commercial fishing businesses, and the use of motorized vehicles in undeveloped areas.

EMILY's List: This political network raises money for Democratic female political candidates who support unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.

Feminist Majority: Characterizing the United States as an inherently sexist nation, this group focuses on "advancing the legal, social and political equality of women with men, countering the backlash to women's advancement, and recruiting and training young feminists to encourage future leadership for the feminist movement in the United States."

Free Press: This "media reform" organization has worked closely with many notable leftists and such organizations as Media Matters for America, Air America Radio, Global Exchange, Code Pink, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, the Revolutionary Communist Party, Mother Jones magazine, and Pacifica Radio.

Funding Exchange: Dedicated to the concept of philanthropy as a vehicle for social change, this organization pairs leftist donors and foundations with likeminded groups and activists who are dedicated to bringing about their own version of "progressive" change and social justice. Many of these grantees assume that American society is rife with racism, discrimination, exploitation, and inequity and needs to be overhauled via sustained education, activism, and social agitation.

Gamaliel Foundation: Modeling its tactics on those of the radical Sixties activist Saul Alinsky, this group takes a strong stand against current homeland security measures and immigration restrictions.

Human Rights First: This group supports open borders and the rights of illegal aliens; charges that the Patriot Act severely erodes Americans' civil liberties; has filed amicus curiae briefs on behalf of terror suspect Jose Padilla; and deplores the Guantanamo Bay detention facilities.

Human Rights Watch: This group directs a disproportionate share of its criticism at the United States and Israel. It opposes the death penalty in all cases, and supports open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.

Immigrant Legal Resource Center: This group claims to have helped gain amnesty for some three million illegal aliens in the U.S., and in the 1980s was part of the sanctuary movement which sought to grant asylum to refugees from the failed Communist states of Central America.

Independent Media Institute: This group provides leftist organizations with "strategic communications consulting, training, coaching, networking opportunities and concrete tools" to help them "achieve their social justice goals."

Institute for Policy Studies: This think tank has long supported Communist and anti-American causes around the world. Viewing capitalism as a breeding ground for "unrestrained greed," IPS seeks to provide a corrective to "unrestrained markets and individualism." Professing an unquestioning faith in the righteousness of the United Nations, it aims to bring American foreign policy under UN control.

Institute for Women's Policy Research: This group views the U.S. as a nation rife with discrimination against women, and publishes research to draw attention to this alleged state of affairs. It also advocates unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, stating that "access to abortion is essential to the economic well-being of women and girls."

International Crisis Group: One of this organization's leading figures is its Mideast Director, Robert Malley, who was a President Bill Clinton's Special Assistant for Arab-Israeli Affairs. His analysis of the Mideast conflict is markedly pro-Palestinian.

Joint Victory Campaign 2004: Founded by George Soros and Harold Ickes, this group was a major fundraising entity for Democrats during the 2004 election cycle. It collected contributions (including large amounts from Soros personally) and disbursed them to two other groups, America Coming Together and the Media Fund, which also worked on behalf of Democrats.

Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law: This group views America as an unremittingly racist nation; uses the courts to mandate race-based affirmative action preferences in business and academia; has filed briefs against the Department of Homeland Security's efforts to limit the wholesale granting of green cards and to identify potential terrorists; condemns the Patriot Act; and calls on Americans to "recognize the contribution" of illegal aliens.

League of United Latin American Citizens: This group views America as a nation plagued by "an alarming increase in xenophobia and anti-Hispanic sentiment"; favors racial preferences; supports the legalization of illegal Hispanic aliens; opposes military surveillance of U.S. borders; opposes making English America's official language; favors open borders; and rejects anti-terrorism legislation like the Patriot Act.

League of Women Voters Education Fund: The League supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; supports "motor-voter" registration, which allows anyone with a driver's license to become a voter, regardless of citizenship status; and supports tax hikes and socialized medicine.

Lynne Stewart Defense Committee: IRS records indicate that Soros's Open Society Institute made a September 2002 grant of $20,000 to this organization. Stewart was the criminal-defense attorney who was later convicted for abetting her client, the "blind sheik" Omar Abdel Rahman, in terrorist activities connected with his Islamic Group.

MADRE: This international women's organization deems America the world's foremost violator of human rights. As such, it seeks to "communicat[e] the real-life impact of U.S. policies on women and families confronting violence, poverty and repression around the world," and to "demand alternatives to destructive U.S. policies." It also advocates unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.

Malcolm X Grassroots Movement: This group views the U.S. as a nation replete with racism and discrimination against blacks; seeks to establish an independent black nation in the southeastern United States; and demands reparations for slavery.

Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition: This group calls for the expansion of civil rights and liberties for illegal aliens; laments that illegal aliens in America are commonly subjected to "worker exploitation"; supports tuition-assistance programs for illegal aliens attending college; and characterizes the Patriot Act as a "very troubling" assault on civil liberties.

Media Fund: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to conceptualize, produce, and place political ads on television, radio, print, and the Internet.

Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund: This group advocates open borders, free college tuition for illegal aliens, lowered educational standards to accommodate Hispanics, and voting rights for criminals. In MALDEF's view, supporters of making English the official language of the United States are "motivated by racism and anti-immigrant sentiments," while advocates of sanctions against employers reliant on illegal labor seek to discriminate against "brown-skinned people."

Meyer, Suozzi, English and Klein, PC: This influential defender of Big Labor is headed by Democrat operative Harold Ickes.

Midwest Academy: This entity trains radical activists in the tactics of direct action, targeting, confrontation, and intimidation.

Migration Policy Institute: This group seeks to create "a North America with gradually disappearing border controls ... with permanent migration remaining at moderate levels."

Military Families Speak Out: This group ascribes the U.S. invasion of Iraq to American imperialism and lust for oil.

MoveOn.org: This Web-based organization supports Democratic political candidates through fundraising, advertising, and get-out-the-vote drives.

Ms. Foundation for Women: This group laments what it views as the widespread and enduring flaws of American society: racism, sexism, homophobia, and the violation of civil rights and liberties. It focuses its philanthropy on groups that promote affirmative action for women, unfettered access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, amnesty for illegal aliens, and big government generally.

NARAL Pro-Choice America: This group supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, and works to elect pro-abortion Democrats.

NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund: The NAACP supports racial preferences in employment and education, as well as the racial gerrymandering of voting districts. Underpinning its support for race preferences is the fervent belief that white racism in the United States remains an intractable, largely undiminished, phenomenon.

The Nation Institute: This nonprofit entity sponsors leftist conferences, fellowships, awards for radical activists, and journalism internships.

National Abortion Federation: This group opposes any restrictions on abortion at either the state or federal levels, and champions the introduction of unrestricted abortion into developing regions of the world.

National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy: This group depicts the United States as a nation in need of dramatic structural change financed by philanthropic organizations. It overwhelmingly promotes grant-makers and grantees with leftist agendas, while criticizing their conservative counterparts.

National Council for Research on Women: This group supports big government, high taxes, military spending cuts, increased social welfare spending, and the unrestricted right to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.

National Council of La Raza: This group lobbies for racial preferences, bilingual education, stricter hate-crime laws, mass immigration, and amnesty for illegal aliens.

National Council of Women's Organizations: This group views the United States as a nation rife with injustice against girls and women. It advocates high levels of spending for social welfare programs, and supports race and gender preferences for minorities and women in business and academia.

National Immigration Forum: Opposing the enforcement of present immigration laws, this organization urges the American government to "legalize" en masse all illegal aliens currently in the United States who have no criminal records, and to dramatically increase the number of visas available for those wishing to migrate to the U.S. The Forum is particularly committed to opening the borders to unskilled, low-income workers, and immediately making them eligible for welfare and social service programs.

National Immigration Law Center: This group seeks to win unrestricted access to government-funded social welfare programs for illegal aliens.

National Lawyers Guild: This group promotes open borders; seeks to weaken America's intelligence-gathering agencies; condemns the Patriot Act as an assault on civil liberties; rejects capitalism as an unviable economic system; has rushed to the defense of convicted terrorists and their abettors; and generally opposes all U.S. foreign policy positions, just as it did during the Cold War when it sided with the Soviets.

National Organization for Women: This group advocates the unfettered right to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; seeks to "eradicate racism, sexism and homophobia" from American society; attacks Christianity and traditional religious values; and supports gender-based preferences for women.

National Priorities Project: This group supports government-mandated redistribution of wealth -- through higher taxes and greater expenditures on social welfare programs. NPP exhorts the government to redirect a significant portion of its military funding toward public education, universal health insurance, environmentalist projects, and welfare programs.

National Security Archive Fund: This group collects and publishes declassified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act to a degree that compromises American national security and the safety of intelligence agents.

National Women's Law Center: This group supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; lobbies against conservative judicial appointees; advocates increased welfare spending to help low-income mothers; and favors higher taxes for the purpose of generating more funds for such government programs as Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, foster care, health care, child-support enforcement, and student loans.

Natural Resources Defense Council: One of the most influential environmentalist lobbying groups in the United States, the Council claims a membership of one million people.

Pacifica Foundation: This entity owns and operates Pacifica Radio, awash from its birth with the socialist-Marxist rhetoric of class warfare and hatred for capitalism.

Peace and Security Funders Group: This is an association of more than 50 foundations that give money to leftist anti-war and environmentalist causes. Its members tend to depict America as the world's chief source of international conflict, environmental destruction, and economic inequalities.

People for the American Way: This group opposes the Patriot Act, anti-terrorism measures generally, and the allegedly growing influence of the "religious right."

Physicians for Human Rights: This group is selectively and disproportionately critical of the United States and Israel in its condemnations of human rights violations.

Physicians for Social Responsibility: This is an anti-U.S.-military organization that also embraces the tenets of radical environmentalism.

Planned Parenthood: This group is the largest abortion provider in the United States and advocates taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.

Ploughshares Fund: This public grantmaking foundation opposes America's development of a missile defense system, and contributes to many organizations that are highly critical of U.S. foreign policies and military ventures.

Prison Moratorium Project: This initiative was created in 1995 for the express purpose of working for the elimination of all prisons in the United States and the release of all inmates. Reasoning from the premise that incarceration is never an appropriate means of dealing with crime, it deems American society's inherent inequities the root of all criminal behavior.

Project Vote: This is the voter-mobilization arm of the Soros-funded ACORN. A persistent pattern of lawlessness and corruption has followed ACORN/Project Vote activities over the years.

Proteus Fund: This foundation directs its philanthropy toward a number of radical leftwing organizations.

Public Citizen Foundation: Public Citizen seeks increased government intervention and litigation against corporations -- a practice founded on the notion that American corporations, like the capitalist system of which they are a part, are inherently inclined toward corruption.

Sentencing Project: Asserting that prison-sentencing patterns are racially discriminatory, this initiative advocates voting rights for felons.

Sojourners: This evangelical Christian ministry preaches radical leftwing politics. During the 1980s it championed Communist revolution in Central America and chastised U.S. policy-makers for their tendency "to assume the very worst about their Soviet counterparts." More recently, Sojourners has taken up the cause of environmental activism, opposed welfare reform as a "mean-spirited Republican agenda," and mounted a defense of affirmative action.

Thunder Road Group: This political consultancy, in whose creation Soros had a hand, coordinates strategy for the Media Fund, America Coming Together, and America Votes.

Tides Foundation and Tides Center: Tides is a major funder of the radical Left.

Urban Institute: This research organization favors socialized medicine, expansion of the federal welfare bureaucracy, and tax hikes for higher income-earners.

USAction Education Fund: USAction lists its priorities as: "fighting the right wing agenda"; "building grassroots political power"; winning "social, racial and economic justice for all"; supporting a system of taxpayer-funded socialized medicine; reversing "reckless tax cuts for millionaires and corporations" which shield the "wealthy" from paying their "fair share"; advocating for "pro-consumer and environmental regulation of corporate abuse"; "strengthening progressive voices on local, state and national issues"; and working to "register, educate and get out the vote ... [to] help progressives get elected at all levels of government."

YWCA World Office, Switzerland: The YWCA opposes abstinence education; supports universal access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; and opposes school vouchers.
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http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977

Smurf-Herder
01-07-2009, 11:57 PM
SM, get your ass in here ... :hammer:

Smurf-Herder
01-07-2009, 11:59 PM
I had no idea just how evil and dangerous George Soros really is.

He may be the worlds most dangerous threat to America and Democracy....Seriously!

This man is worth more than 7 billion dollars and he hates America and intends too use his fortune to destroy it.


That's what i've been trying to tell people like SM :rant:

Moby
01-08-2009, 12:09 AM
That's what i've been trying to tell people like SM :rant:
Where the fuck have you guys been since 1997? It's so sad that you have been so blind for so long.

It's so funny that people can be so naive yet so sad that people like you and HAWG vote based on the opinions of others that are paid to manipulate you :banghead:

Let's say it out load. Soros is bad. OK? We agree now? Again :banghead:

Show me where he even comes close to those that have manipulated the Republican voters since 1997. Go ahead. I've been waiting for a long time.

Let's see it. Come on now. You can do it. Can't you? :banghead:

AntiChrist insanity now. You guys have totally lost it.

Smurf-Herder
01-08-2009, 12:14 AM
Where the fuck have you guys been since 1997? It's so sad that you have been so blind for so long.

It's so funny that people can be so naive yet so sad that people like you and HAWG vote based on the opinions of others that are paid to manipulate you :banghead:

Let's say it out load. Soros is bad. OK? We agree now? Again :banghead:

Show me where he even comes close to those that have manipulated the Republican voters since 1997. Go ahead. I've been waiting for a long time.

Let's see it. Come on now. You can do it. Can't you? :banghead:

AntiChrist insanity now. You guys have totally lost it.

That's HT's terminology.

bairdi
01-08-2009, 09:46 AM
I had no idea just how evil and dangerous George Soros really is.

He may be the worlds most dangerous threat to America and Democracy....Seriously!

This man is worth more than 7 billion dollars and he hates America and intends too use his fortune to destroy it.
There is much, much more you need to know in this link:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
I've noticed that most of the source material you post is either from hoax e-mails or neoconservative websites or authors. This seems awful odd to me for someone who describes himself as a "freethinker" to continually post information that is slanted to a particular view and uses terminology that incites hatred.

Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 10:01 AM
Where the fuck have you guys been since 1997? It's so sad that you have been so blind for so long.

It's so funny that people can be so naive yet so sad that people like you and HAWG vote based on the opinions of others that are paid to manipulate you :banghead:

Let's say it out load. Soros is bad. OK? We agree now? Again :banghead:

Show me where he even comes close to those that have manipulated the Republican voters since 1997. Go ahead. I've been waiting for a long time.

Let's see it. Come on now. You can do it. Can't you? :banghead:

AntiChrist insanity now. You guys have totally lost it."Anti-Christ" was simply stressing the point of how dangerous George Soros is, you idiot.

The major problem with dealing with morons is one must explain every minute detail to them.

Knowing how bad Soros is, we must learn to avoid and be anti everything and everybody that he supports.

The fact that George Soros supported Barack Hussein Obama for president should tell us everything we need to know.

Wake up America!!!

Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 10:06 AM
I've noticed that most of the source material you post is either from hoax e-mails or neoconservative websites or authors. This seems awful odd to me for someone who describes himself as a "freethinker" to continually post information that is slanted to a particular view and uses terminology that incites hatred.Are you disputing any of the information I provided in the link??? Put your facts where your accusations are or shut the fuck up, idiot.

Do you think liberal, left-wing media Pro-Obama patsies or George Soros funded organizations are going to tell us the truth about these things, you moron???

bairdi
01-08-2009, 10:25 AM
Are you disputing any of the information I provided in the link??? Put your facts where your accusations are or shut the fuck up, idiot.

Do you think liberal, left-wing media Pro-Obama patsies or George Soros funded organizations are going to tell us the truth about these things, you moron???
It is not difficult to see a right wing bias and agenda in the article you posted. The fact that you are blinded to this bias is just an indication of how effective the programming has been in influencing your views.

Moby
01-08-2009, 10:29 AM
I've noticed that most of the source material you post is either from hoax e-mails or neoconservative websites or authors. This seems awful odd to me for someone who describes himself as a "freethinker" to continually post information that is slanted to a particular view and uses terminology that incites hatred.
At least he's posted 2 links this year. That about matches his last year total.

Didn't we mention in another thread the dangers of people not knowing the difference between pundit information and news information? Some people will never get it.

Independent Harry
01-08-2009, 10:30 AM
I've noticed that most of the source material you post is either from hoax e-mails or neoconservative websites or authors. This seems awful odd to me for someone who describes himself as a "freethinker" to continually post information that is slanted to a particular view and uses terminology that incites hatred.

its just his free wheeling, free thinking ways. Don't worry Bairdi, here just drink this kool aid and everything will be ok..

Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 10:39 AM
At least he's posted 2 links this year. That about matches his last year total.

Didn't we mention in another thread the dangers of people not knowing the difference between pundit information and news information? Some people will never get it.This is exactly what I expected from you Moby....You're very predictable.

Like I've been saying, you demand links, but dispute their validity if they're not from a liberal source.

Like I told Bairdi;
Originally Posted by Hog Trash
Are you disputing any of the information I provided in the link??? Put your facts where your accusations are or shut the fuck up, idiot.

Moby
01-08-2009, 11:12 AM
"Anti-Christ" was simply stressing the point of how dangerous George Soros is, you idiot.

The major problem with dealing with morons is one must explain every minute detail to them.

Knowing how bad Soros is, we must learn to avoid and be anti everything and everybody that he supports.

The fact that George Soros supported Barack Hussein Obama for president should tell us everything we need to know.

Wake up America!!!
No one is asking for minute details but I am asking for some. Like The Shadow Party is the real power driving the Democrat machine. It is a network of radicals dedicated to transforming our constitutional republic into a socialist hive. The leader of these radicals is ... George Soros.
Who are these people? Do they really exist or are they just made up to scare you. You are scared. We can see that. You claimed that you were voting a certain way because you were scared.

George Soros is not a good man. We're all aware of that but there are other really bad people and in many cases these people are much worse. They've focused on manipulating you at a such a strong emotional level that you're no longer able to think freely. There's more then just pundits writing about it to scare you. They really exist and the organizations and money trails really exist.

These pundits make the claims without providing any factual evidence. Then you take the stand of proving THEM wrong. It's a totally flawed process to force people to prove innocence.

Take this for example:
opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government

You're demanding that someone prove that statement is wrong. For some reason the pundit that made the statement makes no attempt to prove that there's guilt. He simply states it and you beleive it.

I could simply state that, "you're a communist" and then say "prove me wrong". It goes back to the dark ages and the mentality of witch hunts. It only helps to hide the real facts.

George Soros is a bad guy but unless you have some evidence that he's any where close to the other bad guys that you've been supporting all you have is an emotional witch hunt.

Moby
01-08-2009, 11:14 AM
This is exactly what I expected from you Moby....You're very predictable.

Like I've been saying, you demand links, but dispute their validity if they're not from a liberal source.

This is a link to an opinion piece. Where are the names of people involved in the "Shadow Government".

Where is a link showing that Soros was, "opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government " or even a single one for that matter.

Don't you understand the difference between opinions and news?

Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 02:56 PM
This is a link to an opinion piece. Where are the names of people involved in the "Shadow Government".

Where is a link showing that Soros was, "opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government " or even a single one for that matter.

Don't you understand the difference between opinions and news?The opinions are based on news and facts, with links for verification.

There must be in excess of a hundred links in the article.

Are you denying the information in the links?

Do you think Soros would deny any of this?

Are you denying George Soros' motivations?

Are you denying his extreme leftist ideology?

Are you denying that Obama and Soros are of the same ideology?

Do you deny that Soros is extreme, even by extremist standards?

Soros has invested literaly billions of dollars into Anti-Americanism.

Did you see the list of organizations he has financed and donated money to?

Click this for an example: MALCOLM X GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT (MXGM)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7318
Where are the names of people involved in the "Shadow Government".
You didn't read the post did you Moby?In a November 11, 2003 interview with Laura Blumenfeld of the Washington Post, Soros described how he had jump-started the Shadow Party during the summer of 2002 by summoning a team of political strategists, activists, and Democrat donors to his Southampton beach house in Long Island. The attendees included: Morton H. Halperin (Director of Soros' Open Society Institute); John Podesta (Democrat strategist and former Bill Clinton chief of staff); Jeremy Rosner (Democrat strategist and pollster, and ex-foreign policy speechwriter for Bill Clinton); Robert Boorstin (Democrat strategist and pollster); Carl Pope (America Coming Together co-founder, Democrat strategist, and Sierra Club Executive Director); Steve Rosenthal (Labor leader, CEO of America Coming Together, and former advisor to Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich); Peter Lewis (major Democrat donor and insurance entrepreneur); Rob Glaser (major Democrat donor and Silicon Valley pioneer); Ellen Malcolm (co-founder and President of America Coming Together and founder of Emily's List); Rob McKay (major Democrat donor); and Lewis and Dorothy Cullman (major Democrat donors).http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=977

Moby
01-08-2009, 03:35 PM
So you're saying that people like

Peter Lewis (major Democrat donor and insurance entrepreneur)

Are actually involved with controlling the shadow government? How and why is such a claim being made?

Moby
01-08-2009, 03:37 PM
The opinions are based on news and facts, with links for verification.
I didn't see a link to support the claim that I mentioned

"opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government"

Where is it?

Moby
01-08-2009, 03:46 PM
Look at how terrible he is for wanting to produce a documentary described horribly by one of those links you mentioned. Imagine allowing these soldiers that put their life on the line for this country to discuss there moral values in public. That is terrible. Only the Anti Christ would support these soldiers.

Soldiers of Conscience (2007): “Their country asked them to kill. Their hearts asked them to stop. From West Point grads to drill sergeants, from Abu Ghraib interrogators to low-ranking reservist mechanics; soldiers in the U.S. Army today reveal their deepest moral concerns about what they are asked to do in war.”

Here's another one. Just terrible to produce documentaries about these issues. We should keep it in the dark.

An American Soldier (2008): “A disproportionate number of people serving and dying in Iraq come from small-town southern America. How they get there, rather than why, is the point of ‘An American Soldier.’ It’s a film about process: the seduction process.” (Washington Post film critic John Anderson)

Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 04:18 PM
So you're saying that people like

Peter Lewis (major Democrat donor and insurance entrepreneur)

Are actually involved with controlling the shadow government? How and why is such a claim being made?I didn't say it, that's what George Soros told Laura Blumenfeld of the Washington Post in an interview November 11, 2003. didn't see a link to support the claim that I mentioned

"opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government"

Where is it?He's made these statements many times publicly, concerning this matter. There's over a hundred links in the article...Look it up yourself lazy-ass.Look at how terrible he is for wanting to produce a documentary described horribly by one of those links you mentioned. Imagine allowing these soldiers that put their life on the line for this country to discuss there moral values in public. That is terrible. Only the Anti Christ would support these soldiers.

Soldiers of Conscience (2007): “Their country asked them to kill. Their hearts asked them to stop. From West Point grads to drill sergeants, from Abu Ghraib interrogators to low-ranking reservist mechanics; soldiers in the U.S. Army today reveal their deepest moral concerns about what they are asked to do in war.”

Here's another one. Just terrible to produce documentaries about these issues. We should keep it in the dark.

An American Soldier (2008): “A disproportionate number of people serving and dying in Iraq come from small-town southern America. How they get there, rather than why, is the point of ‘An American Soldier.’ It’s a film about process: the seduction process.” (Washington Post film critic John Anderson)Bullshit!.....Seems to me the reason you find so little fault with George Soros, is you and him share the same marxist ideology and goals.

The difference being, you are a meaningless one-vote nobody flyspeck, and George Soros has 7+ billion dollars and an America hating, marxist agenda.

You are nothing more than a 'trained circus flea' and George Soros is your Ringmaster.

Moby
01-08-2009, 05:19 PM
There's over a hundred links in the article...Look it up yourself lazy-ass.
I thought that you had your facts straight. Didn't you bother to check the facts before comparing him to the AntiChrist? I don't need to find him guilty as I'm not making these huge insane claims about him. That's what you're doing and you're showing that you DON'T have your facts in order or even bothered to check them in any way. Good job free thinker :thumbsup:

You wanted more sensationalism and now you have it. I'm glad that you found exactly what you wanted to find on a Neoconservative attack site.


Bullshit!.....Seems to me the reason you find so little fault with George Soros, is you and him share the same marxist ideology and goals.

Actually Hog this was one of the links in the article that you posted.
http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1204311857.pdf and I did a cut and paste of the information from the article where they were attacking George Soros and Robert Redford for creating the movies described below.
Soldiers of Conscience (2007): “Their country asked them to kill. Their hearts asked them to stop. From West Point grads to drill sergeants, from Abu Ghraib interrogators to low-ranking reservist mechanics; soldiers in the U.S. Army today reveal their deepest moral concerns about what they are asked to do in war.”

An American Soldier (2008): “A disproportionate number of people serving and dying in Iraq come from small-town southern America. How they get there, rather than why, is the point of ‘An American Soldier.’ It’s a film about process: the seduction process.” (Washington Post film critic John Anderson)
I guess you didn't check that part of the article either. Oh well. Why bother with facts HAWG when you can just be ummm...... Angry.

Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 06:01 PM
I thought that you had your facts straight. Didn't you bother to check the facts before comparing him to the AntiChrist? I don't need to find him guilty as I'm not making these huge insane claims about him. That's what you're doing and you're showing that you DON'T have your facts in order or even bothered to check them in any way. Good job free thinker :thumbsup:

You wanted more sensationalism and now you have it. I'm glad that you found exactly what you wanted to find on a Neoconservative attack site.


Actually Hog this was one of the links in the article that you posted.
http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/v1204311857.pdf and I did a cut and paste of the information from the article where they were attacking George Soros and Robert Redford for creating the movies described below.

I guess you didn't check that part of the article either. Oh well. Why bother with facts HAWG when you can just be ummm...... Angry.I Don't post facts or links for you Moby. Like I said, you except nothing that is not from a left-wing biased source. Your programmers would be proud of the job they did on you.

I posted the information and "facts" in this thread for people who are rational and can still be objective, not for people so brainwashed they can no longer think for themselves.

You are so far gone, short of a miricle, I don't think there is any hope for you....You're kinda pathetic.

Moby
01-08-2009, 07:45 PM
I Don't post facts or links for you Moby. Like I said, you except nothing that is not from a left-wing biased source. Your programmers would be proud of the job they did on you.

I posted the information and "facts" in this thread for people who are rational and can still be objective, not for people so brainwashed they can no longer think for themselves.

You are so far gone, short of a miricle, I don't think there is any hope for you....You're kinda pathetic.
You said that you posted facts and now you're saying that you don't. Whatever keeps you happy.

When people don't buy the opinions you can just attack them. There's no point in dealing in truth when you have sensationalism and and you can simply attack people. You've learned well.

I posted some things directly from the research and you called it bullshit. Why?

One of the links really is attacking Soros for creating the documentaries below. Really it is. Check it out. Of course if you really stopped believing the bullshit and actually educated yourself on the issues you might find that you've been wrong for a very long time.

Maybe the reason why the posted so many links and simply told you what was on those link is because they know the loyal readers are sheep and will beleive anything that put in their feed. Yummy!
Soldiers of Conscience (2007): “Their country asked them to kill. Their hearts asked them to stop. From West Point grads to drill sergeants, from Abu Ghraib interrogators to low-ranking reservist mechanics; soldiers in the U.S. Army today reveal their deepest moral concerns about what they are asked to do in war.”

An American Soldier (2008): “A disproportionate number of people serving and dying in Iraq come from small-town southern America. How they get there, rather than why, is the point of ‘An American Soldier.’ It’s a film about process: the seduction process.” (Washington Post film critic John Anderson)

Independent Harry
01-08-2009, 07:50 PM
You said that you posted facts and now you're saying that you don't. Whatever keeps you happy.

When people don't buy the opinions you can just attack them. There's no point in dealing in truth when you have sensationalism and and you can simply attack people. You've learned well.

I posted some things directly from the research and you called it bullshit. Why?

One of the links really is attacking Soros for creating the documentaries below. Really it is. Check it out. Of course if you really stopped believing the bullshit and actually educated yourself on the issues you might find that you've been wrong for a very long time.

Maybe the reason why the posted so many links and simply told you what was on those link is because they know the loyal readers are sheep and will beleive anything that put in their feed. Yummy!

I find it interesting that Hog is posting information from Neo con sites, considering how he has expressed he is completely against the neo-con movement and is an independent free thinker...

SeedyROM
01-08-2009, 08:44 PM
Where the fuck have you guys been since 1997? It's so sad that you have been so blind for so long.

It's so funny that people can be so naive yet so sad that people like you and HAWG vote based on the opinions of others that are paid to manipulate you :banghead:

Let's say it out load. Soros is bad. OK? We agree now? Again :banghead:

Show me where he even comes close to those that have manipulated the Republican voters since 1997. Go ahead. I've been waiting for a long time.

Let's see it. Come on now. You can do it. Can't you? :banghead:

AntiChrist insanity now. You guys have totally lost it.

The momentum is growing SM. Plenty of details to show how dirty Soro's is comparable to Murdoch. Soro's does it through many intermediaries and directly as well. fyi, I read the PNAC's site is active again, yes that's right they are publsihing new material. And good ole Robert Kagan endorse's Obama. The scary people are back in vogue with the democrats, so the infestation continues.

SeedyROM
01-08-2009, 08:48 PM
Good read Hog, Soro's is just as twisted and evil as neocons. The man favors Palestine over Israel even though he was once a man of jewish faith.
Billionaire Goerge Soro's used to be Jewish, from Yugolavia, he renonced his jewish faith and now he sides with Palestine over Israel. Soro's doesn't hate Israel per se, but he throws a lot of money at liberal far lefties to write and report on TV in favor of Palestine which leads the some in the media to dislike Israel when it attacks. It also fuels liberal American hate of Israel at times.

The Open Society foundation founded by Soro's gives many grants to journalists. Soro's throws money at over 2 dozen liberal media organizations which may be one reason why the media are playing the double standard with Israel. Some Dems foolishly like Soro's, they often look the other way when this manipulator interferes in our country. Soro's is manipulating the MN senate vote count too, amoungst other major interfereces this foreigner engages in!

bairdi
01-08-2009, 08:52 PM
I find it interesting that Hog is posting information from Neo con sites, considering how he has expressed he is completely against the neo-con movement and is an independent free thinker...
If it looks like a neo-con, squawks like a neo-con and justifies itself with blather from neo-con websites, it must be a neo-con.

bairdi
01-08-2009, 09:25 PM
The momentum is growing SM. Plenty of details to show how dirty Soro's is comparable to Murdoch. Soro's does it through many intermediaries and directly as well. fyi, I read the PNAC's site is active again, yes that's right they are publsihing new material. And good ole Robert Kagan endorse's Obama. The scary people are back in vogue with the democrats, so the infestation continues.
I think your attempt to tie Obama to the neoconservative movement is a little far fetched. PNAC must have paid their internet bill, but they haven't published anything new on their website since 2006.

Moby
01-08-2009, 09:35 PM
The momentum is growing SM. Plenty of details to show how dirty Soro's is comparable to Murdoch. Soro's does it through many intermediaries and directly as well. fyi, I read the PNAC's site is active again, yes that's right they are publsihing new material. And good ole Robert Kagan endorse's Obama. The scary people are back in vogue with the democrats, so the infestation continues.
The PNAC website has been back up for a long time now. Where have you been?

Sure Soros is not good for the country but listen to the hysteria created by the sheep. Hog actually tries to time him to the ANti Christ. Smurf was all in a tough because News Max mentioned him in an article. They didn't draw any connection between the issue and Soros but they're using the knee jerk emotional responses to keep people afraid and in line. It's sad to see grown men falling for it.

Moby
01-08-2009, 09:36 PM
If it looks like a neo-con, squawks like a neo-con and justifies itself with blather from neo-con websites, it must be a neo-con.
He's a free thinker, remember :lmao2:

foxbaron
01-09-2009, 12:56 AM
Have any of you ever wondered if Soros has even one real honest to God friend.

I'll bet that when he dies he will die as a lonely, bitter old bastard and the only ones who will miss him will be those who were getting his money.

Bet he sets up a bunch of foundations that will carry on his legacy of destroying America and the liberals will turn this asshole into some kind of martyr.

SeedyROM
01-09-2009, 04:29 AM
I think your attempt to tie Obama to the neoconservative movement is a little far fetched. PNAC must have paid their internet bill, but they haven't published anything new on their website since 2006.


Obama hired neocons for his campaign, they are still around, I'll start a new thread next week if I have time. BO is getting advice from these people did you think they'd wait 4 years to further thier agenda? It seems Sirmoby agrees that PNAC is operational.

Here is one PNAC article, well they allege it is, read and let me know what you think as well I'd like the opinons of others??

Strengthening the Partnership: The New PNAC Document?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7785574/Strengthening-the-Partnership-The-New-PNAC-Document

SeedyROM
01-09-2009, 04:30 AM
The PNAC website has been back up for a long time now. Where have you been?

Sure Soros is not good for the country but listen to the hysteria created by the sheep. Hog actually tries to time him to the ANti Christ. Smurf was all in a tough because News Max mentioned him in an article. They didn't draw any connection between the issue and Soros but they're using the knee jerk emotional responses to keep people afraid and in line. It's sad to see grown men falling for it.

You've got a lot to learn about Soro's.

Moby
01-09-2009, 07:29 PM
You've got a lot to learn about Soro's.
"If there really is an "Anti-Christ", George Soros is him."

So you think Soros is the Anti Christ?
What about Obama being tied to the Anti Christ?
What about Obama being called the Messiah?

This is not a sane and rational thought process involved her Seedy. This is hysteria, sensationalism and designed to control the masses through fear. HAWG is already calling for opposing "everything" without listening or judging any of the issues.

He's been assimilated to be a good soldier for the party no matter what the issue is.

Soros is a bad guy but the people behind causing this constant fear and hysteria in grown men is the single most destructive force in America.

After all, this type of fear was used to distract Americans while pork increased 1,000%, budget deficits sky rocketed and spending went through the roof. None of that could have happened with a rational conservative population. They had to be focused on hysteria.

I know that Soros is not a good guy.

You have a lot to learn about controlling a population through fear.

SeedyROM
01-11-2009, 04:23 AM
"If there really is an "Anti-Christ", George Soros is him."

So you think Soros is the Anti Christ?
What about Obama being tied to the Anti Christ?
What about Obama being called the Messiah?

This is not a sane and rational thought process involved her Seedy. This is hysteria, sensationalism and designed to control the masses through fear. HAWG is already calling for opposing "everything" without listening or judging any of the issues.

He's been assimilated to be a good soldier for the party no matter what the issue is.

Soros is a bad guy but the people behind causing this constant fear and hysteria in grown men is the single most destructive force in America.

After all, this type of fear was used to distract Americans while pork increased 1,000%, budget deficits sky rocketed and spending went through the roof. None of that could have happened with a rational conservative population. They had to be focused on hysteria.

I know that Soros is not a good guy.

You have a lot to learn about controlling a population through fear.

Using those NLP style questions again, Glenn Beck style questions that is. I'm not using fear, but people should be wary of Soro's. You continue to talk in cirlces with Soro's, try to engage the dialect rather than chastize us with old material.

What about Obama being called the Messiah?
Wasn't he born in a manger, oh no I know, he could almost see a manger from his Karl Marx Marxist Kiddie Crib with a Faux Iron Curtin and Kiddie Goose Stepping Shoes. Bwa hahahahahahahahaha:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Hog Trash
01-11-2009, 04:33 PM
You said that you posted facts and now you're saying that you don't. Whatever keeps you happy.
No, what I actually said was, I don't post facts for you and I even took the time to explain why.I Don't post facts or links for you Moby. Like I said, you except nothing that is not from a left-wing biased source.

I posted the information and "facts" in this thread for people who are rational and can still be objective, not for people so brainwashed they can no longer think for themselves.

You are so far gone, short of a miricle, I don't think there is any hope for you....You're kinda pathetic.Your constant failure to understand what you read is what I meant in an earlier post when I mentioned dealing with "morons"."Anti-Christ" was simply stressing the point of how dangerous George Soros is, you idiot.

The major problem with dealing with morons is one must explain every minute detail to them.

Knowing how bad Soros is, we must learn to avoid and be anti everything and everybody that he supports.

The fact that George Soros supported Barack Hussein Obama for president should tell us everything we need to know.

Wake up America!!!Explaining and re-explaining things to you is a wasted effort.

Trying to make you understand the simplest of things can be frustrating.

Growing up, you must have been quite a challenge for your parents and teachers.

Hog Trash
01-12-2009, 11:43 AM
Interesting compilation of Soros stuff.....Of course the libby's will complain about the source.

Liberals believe that any information that doesn't come from MoveOn.org or other lefties isn't reliable.
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What's really shocking is the way Soros used "Move On" as a tool in a smear campaign against Halliburton

to effectively lower the stock and then purchased 2 million shares, resulting in a 40 million dollar profit in 2006.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/3776

Mr "I care about the little guy" Michael Moore was also a Halliburton stock holder and war profiteer...Disgusting hippicrits!
Moore and his wife – showed ownership of 2,000 shares of Halliburton, the company most vilified by Moore in "Fahrenheit 9/11."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54532

Moby
01-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Liberals believe that any information that doesn't come from MoveOn.org or other lefties isn't reliable.
That's a strange accusation and of course, baseless as usual.

Do a quick search on links and you won't find MoveOn.org being quoted as a news source here. Of course you can find Gateway Pundits, News Max,
Discover The Networks and many other well funded attack sources from supporters on the right.

Isn't it amazing how you keep making these claims that can't be supported by actual facts? :confused:

Programming feels good though, don't it?


Come on HAWG, you already called something Bull Shit that came from the site that you quoted pretty much proving that you didn't check the facts behind the opinion piece.

Hog Trash
01-12-2009, 02:40 PM
That's a strange accusation and of course, baseless as usual.

Do a quick search on links and you won't find MoveOn.org being quoted as a news source here. Of course you can find Gateway Pundits, News Max,
Discover The Networks and many other well funded attack sources from supporters on the right.

Isn't it amazing how you keep making these claims that can't be supported by actual facts? :confused:

Programming feels good though, don't it?


Come on HAWG, you already called something Bull Shit that came from the site that you quoted pretty much proving that you didn't check the facts behind the opinion piece.If you wasn't so brainwashed you would know that dirt on liberals is hard to find at the liberal mainstream news media and you make the same claims about Fox that you do about "Gateway Pundits, News Max, Discover The Networks".

You have pretty much restricted yourself out of alot of information. I hear you complain about the sources alot, but you rarely deny the accusations they make. You think if you jump up and down and make alot of noise, nobody will notice.

Moby
01-12-2009, 05:44 PM
I hear you complain about the sources alot, but you rarely deny the accusations they make. You think if you jump up and down and make alot of noise, nobody will notice.
There you point to one of the many tools used to control the sheep. Make a claim, act like it's true and then force people to disprove something that you never proved to begin with. It's what savage counties do but civilized nations abandon.

It's easy to do. Here's an example of the insanity behind that way of thinking HAWG.


George W. Bush is an alien robot.
Dick Cheney is actually the devil.
Sarah Palin never really went to college.


Can you disprove any of the above 3 statements? Of course not. That's why most sane and rational people insist on evidence proving guilt but I guess people that hate our way of life might want to take your approach.

All three of those statements are silly, wrong and there's nothing to support them. However, some sheep would beleive such statements depending on the source.

When there's nothing to support a rational claim it always falls back on the primitive "Witch Hunt" mentality. Why abandon what this nation believes in just to support your hate?

Moby
01-12-2009, 06:07 PM
Using those NLP style questions again, Glenn Beck style questions that is. I'm not using fear, but people should be wary of Soro's. You continue to talk in cirlces with Soro's, try to engage the dialect rather than chastize us with old material.
I'm pointing out the hysteria that is over taking people like Hog and Smurf. I'm not asking questions of you to answer or to put thoughts in your head I'm using them as statements to point out the insanity involved.

If you understood NLP you'd know that those statements aren't. :)

Hog Trash
01-12-2009, 06:12 PM
I'm pointing out the hysteria that is over taking people like Hog and Smurf. I'm not asking questions of you to answer or to put thoughts in your head I'm using them as statements to point out the insanity involved.

If you understood NLP you'd know that those statements aren't. :)Once again...This is exactly what I expected from you Moby....You're very predictable.

Like I've been saying, you demand links, but dispute their validity if they're not from a liberal source.

Moby
01-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Once again...
There are no facts based on data that can eb disbuted because the facts are missing. I took just two random comments from the article and there are no supporting facts for them and you can't find them either.

The Shadow Party is the real power driving the Democrat machine. It is a network of radicals dedicated to transforming our constitutional republic into a socialist hive. The leader of these radicals is ... George Soros.
Who are these people? The article doesn't mention them or any supporting evidence that they actually exist.

Let me guess, you want me to prove that these people don't exist even though the article refuses to provide even a single fact about their existence. You know, like a name.

We're supposed to be sheep and believe that people that aren't named exist and that they must exist unless someone can prove that htey don't exist.
opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government
The article doesn't mention a single issue, item or how it was opposed. It just says "virtually all". I'm asking you what where the issues and how he opposed them. The article provides no facts.

Did you see the facts mentioning the names of the people, the issues or how they were actually opposed?

Like I said earlier Hog, and you're proving it now. The sheep will believe anything that they're told.

They offer as much support for their claims as I offered for the 3 statements that I made earlier. Get it?

Maybe one day you'll become a free thinker again and learn the difference between a news source and an opinion piece. Or maybe not.

Moby
01-12-2009, 10:05 PM
Hog you were very open about the fact that you were a good sheep and would beleive anything that you heard about Obama without any facts or evidence to support it.

But now it seems you've accepted the same programming on any issue that they choose.

I'm still not saying that Soros is a good guy. I'm just pointing out that the article offers no evidence to support it;s claim and with sheep like you, they will never need to.

Bill
01-12-2009, 11:12 PM
Anybody that makes hoggy sad has got to be a great freekin guy.

And "anti-christ" - hot damn! If you can't say anything bright, go for the biblical insult - thats some fine police work there, Lou.

Thats about as close to a ringing endorsement as one can find on this internet.

Keep it up soros! Keep slamming the boot into the nuts of the hater reds.

SeedyROM
01-13-2009, 01:30 AM
I'm pointing out the hysteria that is over taking people like Hog and Smurf. I'm not asking questions of you to answer or to put thoughts in your head I'm using them as statements to point out the insanity involved.

If you understood NLP you'd know that those statements aren't. :)

I know, I'm teasing you because you questions are similar to the way many
in the media ask them. NLP takes on many forms including questions. Its not insanity, Murdoch and Soro's are two different animals, Soros has many connections in the media, his money has bought a lot of support. Soros influence is as dangerous as Murdoch because Soros has many far left loones who follow him blindly. What hysteria are you speaking of? All I see is HG and Smurf waring that Soro's is a bad man.

SeedyROM
01-13-2009, 01:33 AM
Hog you were very open about the fact that you were a good sheep and would beleive anything that you heard about Obama without any facts or evidence to support it.

But now it seems you've accepted the same programming on any issue that they choose.

I'm still not saying that Soros is a good guy. I'm just pointing out that the article offers no evidence to support it;s claim and with sheep like you, they will never need to.

You know, the irony with Obama is most details that made it onTV were true whether he addressed the issues or not. The myths that never made the TV are just myths. We'll continue to load Soro's dirt, there is so much it takes time to go thru it and of course there are other important issues.

Hog Trash
02-17-2009, 11:49 PM
You know, the irony with Obama is most details that made it onTV were true whether he addressed the issues or not. The myths that never made the TV are just myths. We'll continue to load Soro's dirt, there is so much it takes time to go thru it and of course there are other important issues.Here is a photo of Obama addressing the issues with the help of his good friend George Soros.

Moby
02-18-2009, 03:01 PM
Here is a photo of Obama addressing the issues with the help of his good friend George Soros.
Same old Hog. Still no facts to support the claim that Soros comes anywhere close to the media control of your pundits.

Hog Trash
02-18-2009, 06:08 PM
Same old Hog. Still no facts to support the claim that Soros comes anywhere close to the media control of your pundits.Soros gets much more air time and media exposure than Murdoch and Moon does put together.

Exposure is control, not to mention the control that 7+ billion dollars can buy and the power it wields.

When Soros talks everybody turns their camera on and sticks a microphone in his face...That's media control.

Moby
02-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Soros gets much more air time and media exposure than Murdoch and Moon does put together.

Exposure is control, not to mention the control that 7+ billion dollars can buy and the power it wields.

When Soros talks everybody turns their camera on and sticks a microphone in his face...That's media control.
Murdoch has two news papers and 24/7 cable news network.
Mays has a constant blathering of radio talk shows with many of the hosts getting huge money from Murdoch.

What does Soros have to compare to that?

Hog Trash
02-18-2009, 06:31 PM
Murdoch has two news papers and 24/7 cable news network.
Mays has a constant blathering of radio talk shows with many of the hosts getting huge money from Murdoch.

What does Soros have to compare to that?Do I really have to answer this twice? :disbelief:

Moby
02-18-2009, 07:13 PM
Do I really have to answer this twice? :disbelief:
No, just once will be fine. You can always just link to it if you posted it

Hog Trash
02-18-2009, 07:20 PM
No, just once will be fine. You can always just link to it if you posted itHere's your link...that's twice.Soros gets much more air time and media exposure than Murdoch and Moon does put together.

Exposure is control, not to mention the control that 7+ billion dollars can buy and the power it wields.

When Soros talks everybody turns their camera on and sticks a microphone in his face...That's media control.You couldn't see it it the first time...I doubt your programing will permit you to see it if I post it a hundred times.

Independent Harry
02-18-2009, 08:59 PM
God, this douche bag is worse than Radio Guy...

SeedyROM
02-19-2009, 01:46 AM
God, this douche bag is worse than Radio Guy...

Get a life douche bag

Moby
02-19-2009, 09:51 AM
Get a life douche bag
Stop harassing IH douche bag. :taunt:

Moby
02-19-2009, 09:52 AM
God, this douche bag is worse than Radio Guy...
It seems this is as far as Hog can go with facts. It's in my head, I'm not sure how it got there but it's there so it must be true.

RG could at least post to articles and information even if they said something different or came from pundits with no supporting facts.

SeedyROM
02-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Stop harassing IH douche bag. :taunt:

You better watch your back. You need to learn what harassment is and is not!!

Hog Trash
02-22-2009, 03:25 AM
Murdoch has two news papers and 24/7 cable news network.
Mays has a constant blathering of radio talk shows with many of the hosts getting huge money from Murdoch.

What does Soros have to compare to that?The ultimate all time left-wing liberal media mogul was the multi-billionaire, Ted Turner and his hard core left-wing network was CNN.

The Commie fucker donated a billion dollars to the United Nations. How unamerican is that...Let's not forget his America hating wife, Jane Fonda.

Smurf-Herder
02-22-2009, 11:26 AM
The ultimate all time left-wing liberal media mogul was the multi-billionaire, Ted Turner and his hard core left-wing network was CNN.

The Commie fucker donated a billion dollars to the United Nations. How unamerican is that...Let's not forget his America hating wife, Jane Fonda.

http://www.vietnamwar.com/jane_gun.jpg

Who can forget Hanoi Jane

Moby
02-23-2009, 01:20 AM
The ultimate all time left-wing liberal media mogul was the multi-billionaire, Ted Turner and his hard core left-wing network was CNN.
Why are you changing the subject again? You brought up Soros. I don't think he's a good guy but there's a couple of billionaires that are doing few more damage to the media then Soros.

I've pointed them out over and over again. No one has ever tried to defend them and you can't seem to show any evidence that Soros has any where close to the influence that your Master Programmers have.

Hog if you're not able to support your insane claims then why make them at all? Is it because you programmers make you believe it's true?

Hog Trash
02-23-2009, 05:01 AM
Why are you changing the subject again? You brought up Soros. I don't think he's a good guy but there's a couple of billionaires that are doing few more damage to the media then Soros.

I've pointed them out over and over again. No one has ever tried to defend them and you can't seem to show any evidence that Soros has any where close to the influence that your Master Programmers have.

Hog if you're not able to support your insane claims then why make them at all? Is it because you programmers make you believe it's true?I was simply pointing out a related fact about Ted Turner, einstein.....George Soros is worth 7+ billion dollars...A fortune.

We know Soros is a Marxist who hates America and democracy and has demonstaited his willingness to invest his fortune in their destruction.

Neither you nor I knows for sure what all Soros owns, but we do know of the things his fortune can and has bought, of which "influence" is only one.

Soros and Obama are of the same mind-set.....You are a blind loyal fool, Moby.

Moby
02-23-2009, 08:55 AM
We know Soros is a Marxist who hates America and democracy and has demonstaited his willingness to invest his fortune in their destruction.

Neither you nor I knows for sure what all Soros owns, but we do know of the things his fortune can and has bought, of which "influence" is only one.

Soros and Obama are of the same mind-set.....You are a blind loyal fool, Moby.
1. How do you know Soros is a Marxist?
2. How do you know that he hates America?
3. So Soros is guilty because he's wealthy? Doesn't that mean that Warren Buffet is even more evil?
4. How do you know this?

Come on Hog, doesn't the constant ranting of fact less claims get old after a while? I'm sure acting things are facts has worked for years but now isn't it time to bring facts to the table at least once in a while?

Hog Trash
02-23-2009, 03:20 PM
1. How do you know Soros is a Marxist?
2. How do you know that he hates America?
3. So Soros is guilty because he's wealthy? Doesn't that mean that Warren Buffet is even more evil?
4. How do you know this?

Come on Hog, doesn't the constant ranting of fact less claims get old after a while? I'm sure acting things are facts has worked for years but now isn't it time to bring facts to the table at least once in a while?Rupert Murdoch told me so! :winkwink:

Moby
02-23-2009, 05:04 PM
Rupert Murdoch told me so! :winkwink:
We all know that.

Can't you think beyond that? What happened to the man that was claiming to be a free thinker? Where has he been the the past 8 months or so?

What a shame when people turn to sheep and follow the media moguls that they know are controlling them? :(

SeedyROM
02-26-2009, 07:03 PM
We all know that.

Can't you think beyond that? What happened to the man that was claiming to be a free thinker? Where has he been the the past 8 months or so?

What a shame when people turn to sheep and follow the media moguls that they know are controlling them? :(

Where and when is Murdoch speaking publically these days? Soro's is out there talking trash and pushing socialist policy and deceiving Americans while he loots our money with currency trading. Soro's has dozens of media outlets that cater to him, over 50 I believe. Murdoch has how many, a dozen? Soro's still has a stronger reach because the liberal media pick up stories that spawn from the Soro's group. I sure Murdochhas has fangs in deep but Murdoch doesn't have the ear of the liberal media. But Murdoch does have a neocon voice in the Whitehouse.