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Hog Trash
01-06-2009, 03:07 PM
INTERESTING
FACTS ----- NOTICE LINK
AND
MAP
AT BOTTOM
Some unreported
stats about the 2008 election
Professor
Joseph Olson of Hemline University
School of Law,
St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some
interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:
-Number of States won by:
Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30
-Square miles of land won by: Democrats:
580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000
-Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million
-Murder rate per 100,000
residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the
map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying
citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented
or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the
"governmental dependency" phase.
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/163337
bairdi
01-06-2009, 06:33 PM
INTERESTING
FACTS ----- NOTICE LINK
AND
MAP
AT BOTTOM
Some unreported
stats about the 2008 election
Professor
Joseph Olson of Hemline University
School of Law,
St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some
interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:
-Number of States won by:
Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30
-Square miles of land won by: Democrats:
580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000
-Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million
-Murder rate per 100,000
residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the
map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying
citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented
or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the
"governmental dependency" phase.
292
http://www.newsweek.com/id/163337
"There's an old saying in Tennessee _ I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee _ that says, fool me once, shame on _ shame on you. Fool me _ you can't get fooled again." _ George Bush Sept. 17, 2002, in Nashville, Tenn.
For an old goat, you are pretty damn gullible hawg.
This chain e-mail is a hoax. The "statistics" are grossly incorrect, and Prof. Olson says he didn't write it.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/whats_the_deal_with_prof_joseph_olsons.html
Cat slave
01-06-2009, 07:13 PM
INTERESTING
FACTS ----- NOTICE LINK
AND
MAP
AT BOTTOM
Some unreported
stats about the 2008 election
Professor
Joseph Olson of Hemline University
School of Law,
St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some
interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:
-Number of States won by:
Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30
-Square miles of land won by: Democrats:
580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000
-Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million
-Murder rate per 100,000
residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the
map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying
citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented
or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the
"governmental dependency" phase.
292
http://www.newsweek.com/id/163337
Well, arent you just a little bundle of sunshine!:D Much too close to what
I think is the truth. Link and all.:p
Cat slave
01-06-2009, 07:14 PM
"There's an old saying in Tennessee _ I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee _ that says, fool me once, shame on _ shame on you. Fool me _ you can't get fooled again." _ George Bush Sept. 17, 2002, in Nashville, Tenn.
For an old goat, you are pretty damn gullible hawg.
This chain e-mail is a hoax. The "statistics" are grossly incorrect, and Prof. Olson says he didn't write it.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/whats_the_deal_with_prof_joseph_olsons.html
That was a hoot! Too funny. The text loses something without the blank,
lost looks.
Hog Trash
01-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Well, arent you just a little bundle of sunshine!:D Much too close to what
I think is the truth. Link and all.:pI think most liberals will agree that reality ain't all it's cracked up to be.
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=7518 What Is The Truth ?
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Originally Posted by Frankg
For you deep thinkers out there this is a geat video, check it out .
http://www.maniacworld.com/what-is-the-truth.html
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"Truth is relative".....This is the basis of all liberal philosophy. :taunt:
Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 09:30 AM
Bump!!!
It's been two days...Ain't you little whiney liberals gonna bitch about "junk chain e-mail"?
Please don't tell me that pussy-ass bairdi's the only libby around here that has a set. :punchballs:
Mr. Blue
01-08-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm neither liberal or conservative. All I will say on the topic is...I have a bridge for sale Hog Trash...I'll give you a good deal on it because I like you.
Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 01:13 PM
I'm neither liberal or conservative. All I will say on the topic is...I have a bridge for sale Hog Trash...I'll give you a good deal on it because I like you.Hog may be a lot of things, but gullible is not one of them.
However Hog does like controversy and tormenting liberals.
There is a sure-fire, simple litmus test to detect "gullibility".
"Did you vote for Barack Hussein Obama?"...100% foolproof!
[sorry but several million other Americans already bought that bridge november 4th]
By the way, how did you end up with the bridge anyway??? :winkwink:
Mr. Blue
01-08-2009, 01:16 PM
Hog may be a lot of things, but gullible is not one of them.
However Hog does like controversy and tormenting liberals.
There is a sure-fire, simple litmus test to detect "gullibility".
"Did you vote for Barack Hussein Obama?"...100% foolproof!
[sorry but several million other Americans already bought that bridge november 4th]
By the way, how did you end up with the bridge anyway???
I voted for Nader and the bridge has been in my family for decades...I'll give you a deal on it though.
Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 02:27 PM
I voted for Nader and the bridge has been in my family for decades...I'll give you a deal on it though.Voting for Nader signals that you are most likely a liberal, just not one of the progressive liberal extremist nuts.
I congradulate you on not voting for Obama. This would indicate you are most likely an intelligent liberal.
A very rare thing indeed. You might actually be a collectors item.....And I do happen to believe Nader is a good and honest man.
I would have preferred him over Obama or McCain, even though I don't agree with much of his politics. At least we could of trusted him.
I suspect you were lying when you said you "like me" :angel: If you did, that would mean you're not a liberal, making me wrong about you.
Cat slave
01-08-2009, 03:38 PM
Voting for Nader signals that you are most likely a liberal, just not one of the progressive liberal extremist nuts.
I congradulate you on not voting for Obama. This would indicate you are most likely an intelligent liberal.
A very rare thing indeed. You might actually be a collectors item.....And I do happen to believe Nader is a good and honest man.
I would have preferred him over Obama or McCain, even though I don't agree with much of his politics. At least we could of trusted him.
I suspect you were lying when you said you "like me" :angel: If you did, that would mean you're not a liberal, making me wrong about you.
I would have never believed I would see a time when I would rather have
seen Hitlary than BO or McAmnesty.....but, she would have been a walk in
the park.
That just shows all things are relevant.
Hog Trash
01-08-2009, 04:05 PM
I would have never believed I would see a time when I would rather have
seen Hitlary than BO or McAmnesty.....but, she would have been a walk in
the park.
That just shows all things are relevant.It would deffinately have been the lesser of two evils. :help:
Mr. Blue
01-08-2009, 05:32 PM
Voting for Nader signals that you are most likely a liberal, just not one of the progressive liberal extremist nuts.
I congradulate you on not voting for Obama. This would indicate you are most likely an intelligent liberal.
A very rare thing indeed. You might actually be a collectors item.....And I do happen to believe Nader is a good and honest man.
I would have preferred him over Obama or McCain, even though I don't agree with much of his politics. At least we could of trusted him.
I suspect you were lying when you said you "like me" :angel: If you did, that would mean you're not a liberal, making me wrong about you.
The Nader vote has less to do with my politics and more to do with a protest vote. A true protest vote to me involves picking someone that has absolutely no chance of winning and you vote for them anyway because you're generally so disgusted with the choices you have that you want to make a small statement.
lol, also I don't dislike anyone. There's too much hate in the world and I try not to take part in it. I have conservative friends, liberal friends, my sister married a Jew, my brother married a Muslim, and family get together resembles a UN meeting. I have atheists as friends and religious friends, even have a friend that's studying to be a priest :disbelief:
I've said this a few times on the forum that people are more alike then they are different and I'll always hold that to be true, you just have to find the common threads of interest and build from there.
Onto you, why would I dislike you? I don't practice the religion of politics, so differing views don't really offend me all that much. Also, you're a slightly older guy, you come from a different generation, and even if I find your presentation on some issues a little antiquated, I stop and ask why? People want to dismiss previous generations as being somehow "out of touch" and they're not really, they just want those things that made life comfortable in their youth. Can't blame anyone for wanting those things of the past.
When I talk to my mom, she basically makes the 1950's sound perfectly magical, lol, now that I'm getting a little older, yikes, I see myself reflecting back on the 1980's, LOL...time catches us that way.
So anyway, I don't dislike you and I think some people take the forum too seriously...I'm just not one of them, lol.
Hog Trash
01-11-2009, 02:13 PM
The Nader vote has less to do with my politics and more to do with a protest vote. A true protest vote to me involves picking someone that has absolutely no chance of winning and you vote for them anyway because you're generally so disgusted with the choices you have that you want to make a small statement.
What was the motivating factor for making Ralph Nader of the Green Party your "protest vote" instead of a Libertarian Party, Conservative Party or Independent Candidate?
Mr. Blue
01-12-2009, 06:39 AM
What was the motivating factor for making Ralph Nader of the Green Party your "protest vote" instead of a Libertarian Party, Conservative Party or Independent Candidate?
If I actually thought Nader would win, I wouldn't vote for him because we differ do much on a number of policies. I do like him though because he speaks his mind in a time where people just don't do that.
Now the thing that I like most about him is he basically argues against the two party system. He's just as critical of the Democrats in his speeches and some of the speeches are true indictments of what we've become as a nation and how our politicians are bought and sold.
Democrats, Republicans, and Corporations
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There's something rather refreshing about someone that will yell at the system and that's why I voted for him. Ron Paul, if he were running the big show I would have voted for him instead, Bob Barr didn't appeal to me because he spent too much time being a run of the mill Republican to have a sudden change of heart later.
Check out more nader clips on youtube...he rips EVERYONE, lol, it's rather refreshing.
Hog Trash
01-12-2009, 07:40 AM
If I actually thought Nader would win, I wouldn't vote for him because we differ do much on a number of policies. I do like him though because he speaks his mind in a time where people just don't do that.
Now the thing that I like most about him is he basically argues against the two party system. He's just as critical of the Democrats in his speeches and some of the speeches are true indictments of what we've become as a nation and how our politicians are bought and sold.
Democrats, Republicans, and Corporations
There's something rather refreshing about someone that will yell at the system and that's why I voted for him. Ron Paul, if he were running the big show I would have voted for him instead, Bob Barr didn't appeal to me because he spent too much time being a run of the mill Republican to have a sudden change of heart later.
Check out more nader clips on youtube...he rips EVERYONE, lol, it's rather refreshing.I agree with your views of Nader, and am an admirer and supporter of Dr Ron Paul. He may be the last honest man in Washington, and is republican in name only.
I disagree with your assessment of Bob Barr. The Libertarian Party has a strict standard of beliefs and will not compromise. Barr must agree to follow their party line or he would not be their candidate.
I suppose I could be wrong but I believe Barr saw the corruption and "party before country" attitude of the Republican Party, and made powerful enemies in Washington. He may actually care about America.
I was a card carrying libertarian for many years and still refer to myself as predominately libertarian in my political beliefs and conservative libertarian as a more specific description.
I am no longer a party member because of their open border policy. Liberal immigration policies, un-inforced immigration laws and possible amnesty are destroying the principles America was founded on.
I dislike Democrats and Republicans and I am absolutely disgusted by liberals. I have no tolerence for weak-minded, dependent, herd mentality people who promote big goverrnment, socialist programs.
Mr. Blue
01-12-2009, 08:55 AM
I agree with your views of Nader, and am an admirer and supporter of Dr Ron Paul. He may be the last honest man in Washington, and is republican in name only.
I disagree with your assessment of Bob Barr. The Libertarian Party has a strict standard of beliefs and will not compromise. Barr must agree to follow their party line or he would not be their candidate.
I suppose I could be wrong but I believe Barr saw the corruption and "party before country" attitude of the Republican Party, and made powerful enemies in Washington. He may actually care about America.
I was a card carrying libertarian for many years and still refer to myself as predominately libertarian in my political beliefs and conservative libertarian as a more specific description.
I am no longer a party member because of their open border policy. Liberal immigration policies, un-inforced immigration laws and possible amnesty are destroying the principles America was founded on.
I dislike Democrats and Republicans and I am absolutely disgusted by liberals. I have no tolerence for weak-minded, dependent, herd mentality people who promote big goverrnment, socialist programs.
Well, I thought Barr is a bit of a political opportunist. I suppose I could be wrong in that regard and maybe he legitimately turned to a Libertarian, but I'd rather have someone like Ron Paul that was always bucking the system, someone like Nader that always knocked heads with the powers that be.
I was disappointed that Ron Paul didn't continue his campaign through to the election...also I wish they gave him a fairer look on the media outlets. They'd focus on one thing he said and not look at the totality of his ideas which was basically to misinform or just give one side of the man.
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