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Smurf-Herder
01-05-2009, 10:02 PM
Some of you can understand how this interrelates to everything; and some cannot. I was up until 2AM this morning, watching the entire thing. Please, don't make an objective judgement unless you watch all 18 segments of the lecture and Q&A; to fully appreciate all it entails.

Dr. Thomas Campbell - My Big TOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxECb7zcQhQ

Hog Trash
01-06-2009, 12:05 PM
I too watched the whole thing. I was fascinated but a little skeptical of the doctors motivations.

Sounds a whole lot like Budhism. I have much the same theories about the 'big picture' or 'big toe', myself.

It interested me enough to want to research Dr Campbell, to find out a little bit about his personal and professional life.

Smurf-Herder
01-06-2009, 12:29 PM
I too watched the whole thing. I was fascinated but a little skeptical of the doctors motivations.

Sounds a whole lot like Budhism. I have much the same theories about the 'big picture' or 'big toe', myself.

It interested me enough to want to research Dr Campbell, to find out a little bit about his personal and professional life.

I've been reading about the concepts involved since the 70s. It is a lot like Budhism. But it is old knowledge among those who practice meditation, etc. The new thing is, it being apparently vindicated in some ways by Quantum Physics.

Look up Astrotonomy (yes, that's spelled correctly) in YouTube. This guy seems to have the same basic concepts, but from more of a new physics angle; on time, space and matter. Remember, most of an atom is space; and the actual particles in an atom turn out to be only energy concentrations.

Cat slave
01-06-2009, 07:34 PM
Are there spaces in black holes?

Smurf-Herder
01-06-2009, 07:59 PM
Are there spaces in black holes?

I'm not sure if black holes are really what we assume them to be. They have incredible mass, yet we can't detect the actual hole; only the effects of it.

While looking up "White Holes" I found this:

"A more recently proposed view of black holes might be interpreted as shedding some light on the nature of classical white holes. Some researchers proposed that when a black hole forms, a big bang occurs at the core, which creates a new universe that expands into extra dimensions outside of the parent universe."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole

So in other words, each Black Hole may be in reality a seperate Universe on another dimensional plane, using material from this universe to feed it's expansion on that plane. That's why things get sucked into it and we see it grow in size; yet all we see is a growing void.

So technically, a Black Hole has all the space of a Universe, on it's dimensional plane. Virtually every Galaxy we can detect seems to be revolving around a Black Hole - in essence, our Universe having babies.

Cat slave
01-06-2009, 08:04 PM
Sooooo very interesting! Thanks! Gonna go read the wikipedia link now.
SM should love the link.:D

Cat slave
01-06-2009, 08:09 PM
Wouldnt it make sense that the two are connected like with a huge worm
hole with flutes at each end??? Taking in universes, refurbishing them then
spewing them out the faraway white hole? Too simplistic I guess. Just a
thought!

Smurf-Herder
01-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Wouldnt it make sense that the two are connected like with a huge worm
hole with flutes at each end??? Taking in universes, refurbishing them then
spewing them out the faraway white hole? Too simplistic I guess. Just a
thought!

I don't think something going in would return though, like point A to point B. I think it involves whatever goes through forever going on, wherever somewhere else is; being converted to that "other" stuff.

What I feel may be more important is, what is "Dark Matter" and "Dark Energy", which makes up over 90% of our Universe - yet can't in itself actually be detected by any instruments we can yet create, other than the effects it has on visible matter and light. It's the stuff that prevents the Universe from collapsing back in on itself, forever expanding at an accelerating rate.

Our Universe is someone else's Black Hole.

Cat slave
01-06-2009, 09:56 PM
LOL....good analogy there SH. It boggles my mind!!:disbelief:

Hog Trash
01-06-2009, 09:57 PM
"A more recently proposed view of black holes might be interpreted as shedding some light on the nature of classical white holes. Some researchers proposed that when a black hole forms, a big bang occurs at the core, which creates a new universe that expands into extra dimensions outside of the parent universe."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole
Oh my god....I considered something simular once several years ago, but I never knew of "white holes".

I imagined a 'super black hole' becoming so massive from swallowing matter and energy that it instantainiously

created a worm hole and exploded into a new universe[Big Bang]spewing out the building blocks of our universe.

Cat slave
01-06-2009, 10:02 PM
Wow.........

Bill
01-06-2009, 10:07 PM
Executive summary please? What's the thesis in a nutshell?

Hog Trash
01-06-2009, 10:17 PM
I don't think something going in would return though, like point A to point B. I think it involves whatever goes through forever going on, wherever somewhere else is; being converted to that "other" stuff.

What I feel may be more important is, what is "Dark Matter" and "Dark Energy", which makes up over 90% of our Universe - yet can't in itself actually be detected by any instruments we can yet create, other than the effects it has on visible matter and light. It's the stuff that prevents the Universe from collapsing back in on itself, forever expanding at an accelerating rate.

Our Universe is someone else's Black Hole.I thought you might like to check this out Smurf....A little smaller scale but still interesting.
WASHINGTON – Take that, Andromeda! For decades, astronomers thought when it came to the major galaxies in Earth's cosmic neighborhood, our Milky Way was a weak sister to the larger Andromeda. Not anymore.

The Milky Way is considerably larger, bulkier and spinning faster than astronomers once thought, Andromeda's equal.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090106/ap_on_sc/sci_milky_way

Smurf-Herder
01-06-2009, 10:28 PM
Executive summary please? What's the thesis in a nutshell?

Nothing exists except consciousness and energy.

And that energy appears condensed as matter or as a force according to the frequency level of the information stream perceptible to the consciousness.

All consciouness and energy are at an infinite number of levels; and all are in a constant state of evolution.

There is no reality in any form without the consciousness perceiving it.

The unified field theory includes the consciousness.

Smurf-Herder
01-10-2009, 03:46 PM
Also ... I need to point out ..........

These theories (by their very nature - ALL probabilities exist as a reality, somewhere) don't rule-out, or rule-in some general concept of the existence of dieties (of some sort) embraced by most religions. Or, anything else the human mind can imagine.

What will the Matrix give us in the future?

An Apocalypse?

Alien Contact?

Asteroid Strike?

WWIII?

Magnetic Reversal?

Solar Storm?

Super Volcano?

All of the above?

How does this movie end? :cool:

SeedyROM
01-11-2009, 04:57 AM
Eventually dark matter must contract if newtons laws of physics apply. Dark matter can't expand forever, but there is no way to guage how far it can expand nor determine when contraction might occur if ever.

Smurf-Herder
01-11-2009, 12:16 PM
Eventually dark matter must contract if newtons laws of physics apply. Dark matter can't expand forever, but there is no way to guage how far it can expand nor determine when contraction might occur if ever.


I've heard the universe is expanding at an ever-accelerating rate; and that "Dark Matter" is converting to "Dark Energy" at an accelerating rate. I don't now how they've determined this. But dark material appears to be preventing the Universe from contracting. Physical matter that we can see only accounts for 5% of the Universe. The remaining 95% is the Dark stuff. I believe elements of Quantum Physics throw a monkey wrench into some of Newton's accepted theories.

SeedyROM
01-13-2009, 01:45 AM
I've heard the universe is expanding at an ever-accelerating rate; and that "Dark Matter" is converting to "Dark Energy" at an accelerating rate. I don't now how they've determined this. But dark material appears to be preventing the Universe from contracting. Physical matter that we can see only accounts for 5% of the Universe. The remaining 95% is the Dark stuff. I believe elements of Quantum Physics throw a monkey wrench into some of Newton's accepted theories.

Quantum Physics that's what I was thinking, that Newton's theories may not apply to everything as previously presumed. Today's discoveries are way beyond the comprehension of Newton or Einstein.