You stay classy FOX "the magic negro" News

[Bill]

Angry white republicans just love that magic negro!

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[Binky]

Huh? Keeps cutting out and ends before it's finished. Can't tell what she is talking about.

[Smurf-Herder]

Angry white republicans just love that magic negro!

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Bill, that text scrolling at the bottom is a live text message from whoever "Jen and John C." are.

(are you turning into an SM?)

[Independent Harry]

Bill, that text scrolling at the bottom is a live text message from whoever "Jen and John C." are.

(are you turning into an SM?)

So you're saying Fox has no control over what is scrolled on their news channel?

[Smurf-Herder]

So you're saying Fox has no control over what is scrolled on their news channel?


I'm saying Fox didn't initiate it; and apparently doesn't consider it any more controversial than the Administrators on this board calling the Republicans a party of "Angry White Guys".

I'd love to see what a similar text scroll would include on MSNBC's Countdown, about Bush and the Republicans.

[luciano]

I'm saying Fox didn't initiate it; and apparently doesn't consider it any more controversial than the Administrators on this board calling the Republicans a party of "Angry White Guys".

I'd love to see what a similar text scroll would include on MSNBC's Countdown, about Bush and the Republicans.

Actually they have a screener for those texts, you see I was watching Bill and Megyn's show in the morning and they were telling people they were gonna have the live text thing that night for their New Year's Eve show, and they said just dont send in anything rude because it wont get past "XXXX"(cant remember the name). So "XXXX" let that be put on the air and he should be fired for it in my opinion. Easy job, dont let any abusive comments on the air, he failed.

[Smurf-Herder]

Actually they have a screener for those texts, you see I was watching Bill and Megyn's show in the morning and they were telling people they were gonna have the live text thing that night for their New Year's Eve show, and they said just dont send in anything rude because it wont get past "XXXX"(cant remember the name). So "XXXX" let that be put on the air and he should be fired for it in my opinion. Easy job, dont let any abusive comments on the air, he failed.

First of all, do you even know where the expression came from? It's a parody of Al Sharpton; originally based on an LA Times Op-Ed piece. In the song, Al's voice is impersonated.

"The evocative phrase “Magic Negro” was first applied to Barack Obama by Hollywood writer David Ehrenstein in a March 2007 op-ed in the Los Angeles Times that concluded: “Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes.” Shanklin adapted the phrase to the tune of “Puff, the Magic Dragon” for a parody that featured Al Sharpton grousing.

The point was not to attack Obama, but to lampoon the envious reaction of Sharpton."

http://www.kansascity.com/273/story/961173.html

Your opinion is very thin-skinned.

Should that writer for the LA Times be fired?

[Smurf-Herder]

Listen to the damned song.

It's a slam against Sharpton's opinion of Obama.

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How the hell do you embed videos here?

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5JFeaJ5A4g

[luciano]

Ive heard the song, know what its about. My point is they shouldnt of never put the word negro up there, no matter who it was about. That text shouldnt of been put up there. The word isnt accepted in society for the last 40 years, its not accepted in the scrolling ticker either. Just seeing that word offends people.

Im not a Fox News hater, its pretty much the only 24 hours news station I watch. They made a mistake putting that up there.

[Smurf-Herder]

Ive heard the song, know what its about. My point is they shouldnt of never put the word negro up there, no matter who it was about. That text shouldnt of been put up there. The word isnt accepted in society for the last 40 years, its not accepted in the scrolling ticker either. Just seeing that word offends people.

Im not a Fox News hater, its pretty much the only 24 hours news station I watch. They made a mistake putting that up there.


In that case, the LA Times should be called out for their writer using a racial slur.

So what if I feel the term "Caucasian" is a racial slur?

How about ther term "Asian"?

And besides, the term "Majic Negro" is a satirical term, originating from a song; descriptive of Obama's election being a panacea for somehow solving race relations, just by electing a black guy who otherwise would have been a nobody among the other candidates.

[Moby]

Bill, that text scrolling at the bottom is a live text message from whoever "Jen and John C." are.

(are you turning into an SM?)
Actually it's not live at all. It's censored and monitored by Fox News before it's posted. Someone at Fox News, who is paid by Rupert Murdoch decided that the message was acceptable and appropriate. You know that.

[Moby]

I'm saying Fox didn't initiate it; and apparently doesn't consider it any more controversial than the Administrators on this board calling the Republicans a party of "Angry White Guys".
I don't agree with statement of "Angry White Guys" but it is funny to see Hog become an Agry White Guy over it :)

[Smurf-Herder]

Actually it's not live at all. It's censored and monitored by Fox News before it's posted. Someone at Fox News, who is paid by Rupert Murdoch decided that the message was acceptable and appropriate. You know that.

You're a real paranoid bitch, semi-Sarah.

[Cat slave]

Free thinking people all over the world must just fall on the floor laughing
watching us tip toe around words...the n word, the b word, the ....whatever.
Its friggin ridiculous and its way past time for people to get over it and get
on with it.

There is not a more boring person anywhere than one who takes himself
way too seriously....and thats the national passtime, oh, good grief!

I thought the song was a hoot!

[Smurf-Herder]

If you can't laugh at satire and parody, you have a problem, I always say.

Hey, check these out:

John McCain sings "Saracuda"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0TiKVQGw-g&feature=related

Barack Obama sings "Jeremiah was my Pastor"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hw549HZr7c&feature=related

Al Gore sings "Ball of Fire"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrc1XZayp4&feature=related

Al Sharpton sings "Feed Caroline"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W-z0wZUMHQ

[Moby]

You're a real paranoid bitch, semi-Sarah.
Are you saying that someone that works for Fox News wasn't censoring and approving those messages being sent in? You know you don't beleive that.

[Smurf-Herder]

Are you saying that someone that works for Fox News wasn't censoring and approving those messages being sent in? You know you don't beleive that.

Someone was, of course. It was their call. I don't believe the big man at the top was supervising.



But seriously, who was it that had nothing better to do with their lives than to monitor Fox text scrolls, to get that?

I guess we can thank the hardline extremists who monitor every little word, from every single conservative source - the Left-wing Thought Police.

BTW, when will this be appearing on Keith Olbermann's Countdown?

The left are really showing themselves to be nothing more than cry babies.

[luciano]

The left are really showing themselves to be nothing more than cry babies.

And the right is showing how out of touch they are with the rest of America, you cant say "negro", sorry.

You cant make a song about Barack the Magic Negro.

That is overt racism.

[Smurf-Herder]

And the right is showing how out of touch they are with the rest of America, you cant say "negro", sorry.

You cant make a song about Barack the Magic Negro.

That is overt racism.

Tell it to the LA Times writer who originated the term "Magic Negroes"; and the LA Times felt no problem with putting to print in their paper.

Wasn't he a Democrat?

I thought the term "Colored" was racist for decades.

But what do the initials NAACP stand for?

Calling something racist is whatever people happen to feel like bitching about at the time.


Hey dipshit, did you ever hear of the United Negro College Fund?

http://www.uncf.org/
(a mind is a terrible thing to waste)

You people need to get a life.

[luciano]

Dipshit??

Okie dokie

[Smurf-Herder]

Dipshit??

Okie dokie

Like the United Negro College Fund's motto says, "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste."

[Smurf-Herder]

This wordgame shit is foolish.

"Black" used to be a slur, when "Negro" was considered standard ethically correct language.

"African American" doesn't consider that all Africans aren't black; and not all blacks are from Africa.

We can all agree on the "N" word being a slur, yet Negro means "black" in Spanish and Portugese; and both are originally derived from the word "black" in the original Latin.

[Smurf-Herder]

You should all read what this is originally based on, before jumping to conclusions.

Obama the 'Magic Negro'
The Illinois senator lends himself to white America's idealized, less-than-real black man.

By David Ehrenstein, L.A.-based DAVID EHRENSTEIN writes about Hollywood and politics.

March 19, 2007

AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.

As might be expected, this figure is chiefly cinematic — embodied by such noted performers as Sidney Poitier, Morgan Freeman, Scatman Crothers, Michael Clarke Duncan, Will Smith and, most recently, Don Cheadle. And that's not to mention a certain basketball player whose very nickname is "Magic."

Poitier really poured on the "magic" in "Lilies of the Field" (for which he won a best actor Oscar) and "To Sir, With Love" (which, along with "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," made him a No. 1 box-office attraction). In these films, Poitier triumphs through yeoman service to his white benefactors. "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is particularly striking in this regard, as it posits miscegenation without evoking sex. (Talk about magic!)

The same can't quite be said of Freeman in "Driving Miss Daisy," "Seven" and the seemingly endless series of films in which he plays ersatz paterfamilias to a white woman bedeviled by a serial killer. But at least he survives, unlike Crothers in "The Shining," in which psychic premonitions inspire him to rescue a white family he barely knows and get killed for his trouble. This heart-tug trope is parodied in Gus Van Sant's "Elephant." The film's sole black student at a Columbine-like high school arrives in the midst of a slaughter, helps a girl escape and is immediately gunned down. See what helping the white man gets you?

And what does the white man get out of the bargain? That's a question asked by John Guare in "Six Degrees of Separation," his brilliant retelling of the true saga of David Hampton — a young, personable gay con man who in the 1980s passed himself off as the son of none other than the real Sidney Poitier. Though he started small, using the ruse to get into Studio 54, Hampton discovered that countless gullible, well-heeled New Yorkers, vulnerable to the Magic Negro myth, were only too eager to believe in his baroque fantasy. (One of the few who wasn't fooled was Andy Warhol, who was astonished his underlings believed Hampton's whoppers. Clearly Warhol had no need for the accouterment of interracial "goodwill.")

But the same can't be said of most white Americans, whose desire for a noble, healing Negro hasn't faded. That's where Obama comes in: as Poitier's "real" fake son.

The senator's famously stem-winding stump speeches have been drawing huge crowds to hear him talk of uniting rather than dividing. A praiseworthy goal. Consequently, even the mild criticisms thrown his way have been waved away, "magically." He used to smoke, but now he doesn't; he racked up a bunch of delinquent parking tickets, but he paid them all back with an apology. And hey, is looking good in a bathing suit a bad thing?

The only mud that momentarily stuck was criticism (white and black alike) concerning Obama's alleged "inauthenticty," as compared to such sterling examples of "genuine" blackness as Al Sharpton and Snoop Dogg. Speaking as an African American whose last name has led to his racial "credentials" being challenged — often several times a day — I know how pesky this sort of thing can be.

Obama's fame right now has little to do with his political record or what he's written in his two (count 'em) books, or even what he's actually said in those stem-winders. It's the way he's said it that counts the most. It's his manner, which, as presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden ham-fistedly reminded us, is "articulate." His tone is always genial, his voice warm and unthreatening, and he hasn't called his opponents names (despite being baited by the media).

Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

[Hog Trash]

And the right is showing how out of touch they are with the rest of America, you cant say "negro", sorry.

You cant make a song about Barack the Magic Negro.

That is overt racism.You are accusing people of racism for nothing more than words without any racist actions what-so-ever. This is only comedy, which blacks do about whites much more often, with no complaints.

You are guilty of practicing Political Correctness, which is nothing more than censorship, and have little respect for freedom of speech. You are weak and have have been brainwashed by the left.

[Mr. Blue]

This is only comedy

Essentially the problem becomes that news channels are not about comedy. I mean the argument could be made that this is comedy, but news outlets shouldn't be posting this type of thing because it's all about context.

If a comedian was doing this joke at a comedy club, he still may get flack for this, but at least I would give some leeway that it was an attempt at comedy and people need to lighten up. However, news channels should steer clear of this type of thing and shouldn't have run it.

[Mr. Blue]

I will add one thing though, CNN also had an issue with using the 'negro' term before and I didn't see many people posting about it here.

[Moby]

Someone was, of course. It was their call. I don't believe the big man at the top was supervising.



But seriously, who was it that had nothing better to do with their lives than to monitor Fox text scrolls, to get that?

I guess we can thank the hardline extremists who monitor every little word, from every single conservative source - the Left-wing Thought Police.

BTW, when will this be appearing on Keith Olbermann's Countdown?

The left are really showing themselves to be nothing more than cry babies.
Weren't you and HAWG taking issue about Bill using the phrase, "Angry White Guys"? I do get a kick out of the outrage from both sides over this. Much more the defense of Fox which is always funny.

Personally I don't give a shit. I think it's funny that the best that Limbaugh and Fox can come up with is stuff like this and the sheep follow like moths to a flame.

I wonder what Hannity or Bill O would do if the ticker stated that the party of Angry White Guys lost or "See you later redneck President".

[Smurf-Herder]

Weren't you and HAWG taking issue about Bill using the phrase, "Angry White Guys"? I do get a kick out of the outrage from both sides over this. Much more the defense of Fox which is always funny.

Personally I don't give a shit. I think it's funny that the best that Limbaugh and Fox can come up with is stuff like this and the sheep follow like moths to a flame.

I wonder what Hannity or Bill O would do if the ticker stated that the party of Angry White Guys lost or "See you later redneck President".


As usual, you miss the main point, Sarah. All you care about is attacking what you can't understand.

[Hog Trash]

Weren't you and HAWG taking issue about Bill using the phrase, "Angry White Guys"? I do get a kick out of the outrage from both sides over this. Much more the defense of Fox which is always funny.

Personally I don't give a shit. I think it's funny that the best that Limbaugh and Fox can come up with is stuff like this and the sheep follow like moths to a flame.

I wonder what Hannity or Bill O would do if the ticker stated that the party of Angry White Guys lost or "See you later redneck President".Way off the mark as usual Moby....I could care less about the terms "angry white guys" or "magic negroes"....Political Correctness was my issue.

I simply pointed out the reverse bigotry of someone who bitched about one and promoted the other in the same post and never even noticed his own stupidity.

Much the same as you....You would never think of saying something negative regarding negroes, but you have no hesitation lumping together and insulting rednecks.

[Moby]

As usual, you miss the main point, Sarah. All you care about is attacking what you can't understand.
Has anyone of major importance been demanding a retraction?

[Moby]

Much the same as you....You would never think of saying something negative regarding negroes, but you have no hesitation lumping together and insulting rednecks.
That's not true HAWG. I was only making fun of your Angry reactions to Bill calling you a member of the Angry White Guys party. You're response was classic.

From time to time I also make fun of rednecks because my father was a redneck, my uncles, aunts, grandmothers and most of my cousins are and were rednecks. Many of my closets friends growing up in Virginia were rednecks.

I grew up in such a family so I understand it pretty well. I haven't lived the life or walked the walk of other groups so it's hard for me to judge them as what I know about their values and beliefs often comes from media instead of reality. I know some people much prefer the media hype or sensationalism as you once called it over reality but I don't.

[Moby]

So now even Fox News admits to it being wrong. Of course, they're now comparing themselves to Kathy Griffin. When you're only defense is claiming to be classier then Kathy Griffin you know you've about hit the bottom.

Fox News VP of programming Suzanne Scott explains, “We received tens of thousands of text message submissions during our New Years Eve special, and this particular viewer submission was inadvertently cleared for air. At FOX we recognize our error as opposed to networks who allow their hosts to utter crude vulgarities to the public.”

[Smurf-Herder]

So now even Fox News admits to it being wrong. Of course, they're now comparing themselves to Kathy Griffin. When you're only defense is claiming to be classier then Kathy Griffin you know you've about hit the bottom.


Yes, they're sensitive to the hyper-sensitivity of people like you.

Read the article I posted and try to understand what the meaning of the term is - and how it fits.

[Hog Trash]

So now even Fox News admits to it being wrong. Of course, they're now comparing themselves to Kathy Griffin. When you're only defense is claiming to be classier then Kathy Griffin you know you've about hit the bottom.Yes, Kathy Griffin is about a skanky low-life trashy fuckin whore who only finds enjoyment in the sick perverted filthy sewers of life.

Damn!...Can you imagine this kind of brutal honesty about themselves, from the folks at Fox News? They finaly told the truth, huh SM?

I bet you would never get this from CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC or CNN, although I have been seeing improvement at CNN regarding their bias.