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Moby
12-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Remember how Bush fired this guy for telling the truth to the American people and wanting to save the lives of soldiers and 100s of Billions of tax payer dollars?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/President44/wireStory?id=6408962
Obama set to name Rumsfeld nemesis Shinseki as Veterans Affairs secretary
By HOPE YEN Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON December 6, 2008 (AP)

President-elect Barack Obama has chosen retired Gen. Eric K. Shinseki to be the next Veterans Affairs secretary, turning to a former Army chief of staff once vilified by the Bush administration for questioning its Iraq war strategy.

Obama will announce the selection of Shinseki, the first Army four-star general of Japanese-American ancestry, at a news conference Sunday in Chicago. He will be the first Asian-American to hold the post of Veterans Affairs secretary, adding to the growing diversity of Obama's Cabinet.

"I think that General Shinseki is exactly the right person who is going to be able to make sure that we honor our troops when they come home," Obama said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" to be broadcast Sunday.

NBC released a transcript of the interview after The Associated Press reported that Shinseki was Obama's pick.

Shinseki's tenure as Army chief of staff from 1999 to 2003 was marked by constant tensions with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, which boiled over in 2003 when Shinseki testified to Congress that it might take several hundred thousand U.S. troops to control Iraq after the invasion.

Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, belittled the estimate as "wildly off the mark" and the army general was ousted within months. But Shinseki's words proved prophetic after President George W. Bush in early 2007 announced a "surge" of additional troops to Iraq after miscalculating the numbers needed to stem sectarian violence.

Obama said he chose Shinseki for the VA post because he "was right" in predicting that the U.S. will need more troops in Iraq than Rumsfeld believed at the time.

"When I reflect on the sacrifices that have been made by our veterans and I think about how so many veterans around the country are struggling even more than those who have not served — higher unemployment rates, higher homeless rates, higher substance abuse rates, medical care that is inadequate — it breaks my heart," Obama told NBC.


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Smurf-Herder
12-07-2008, 12:35 PM
But they were both wrong:

"Shinseki's tenure as Army chief of staff from 1999 to 2003 was marked by constant tensions with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, which boiled over in 2003 when Shinseki testified to Congress that it might take several hundred thousand U.S. troops to control Iraq after the invasion.

Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, belittled the estimate as "wildly off the mark" and the army general was ousted within months. But Shinseki's words proved prophetic after President George W. Bush in early 2007 announced a "surge" of additional troops to Iraq after miscalculating the numbers needed to stem sectarian violence."

Shinseki said it would take "several hundred thousand" troops.

But it didn't take several hundred thousand. His estimate was "wildly off the mark".

It did take more troops - but not several hundred thousand.

Not that I'm saying Rumsfeld was right, though. The stategy was fundamentally flawed, until Gates came in.

SeniorChief
12-07-2008, 12:38 PM
Another "Wes Clark" type General. Yeeeeshk.

I forget what we used to call Wes Clark when he was at NATO (Never At The Office).

It wasn't very complimentary, as everyone hated the little weasle.

Anyone remember the nickname? Little Dictator, or something like that....

Smurf-Herder
12-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Another "Wes Clark" type General. Yeeeeshk.

I forget what we used to call Wes Clark when he was at NATO (Never At The Office).

It wasn't very complimentary, as everyone hated the little weasle.

Anyone remember the nickname? Little Dictator, or something like that....


Isn't Wes Clark an advisor to Obama?

SeniorChief
12-07-2008, 01:18 PM
Isn't Wes Clark an advisor to Obama?

That wouldn't surprise me. He's probably the "Surrender In Chief" advisor.

Smurf-Herder
12-07-2008, 01:35 PM
That wouldn't surprise me. He's probably the "Surrender In Chief" advisor.


I believe during the election he said he had 300 advisors.

Can you imagine listening to all those viewpoints and making any kind of decision?