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LadyMod at scam.com
11-06-2008, 09:41 PM
All the gloom and doom from the far, far right how OBama was going to hurt the rich. Well guess what? The "Rich" didn't buy it either. Go ahead! Read on...


This American Moment — The Surprises (http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/this-american-moment-the-surprises/?8ty&emc=ty)

Guess who won Joe the Plumber’s vote. Not Joe the symbol and unlicensed tax-dodger coming soon to a garage sale near you, but real people who make about $42,000 a year, the median income for plumbers and pipefitters.

Barack Obama carried hard-working Americans of that income stripe by 10 points, according to exit polls.

And the only voters who were told directly that their taxes would go up under a new Democratic president? Obama took the rich as well, winning by six points that small sliver of the electorate that makes more than $200,000 year. Soak ’em.

As for the Bradley effect, there was none. Perhaps a Reverse Bradley – in which more people actually voted for the black guy than they told pollsters.

Witness Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan, three prime states where working-class whites were supposed to be saving their true racial feelings for the privacy of the voting booth. Obama won Michigan by 16 points, Pennsylvania by 11 and Ohio by four. In each case, the vote was well above the election eve average of all polls. Hillary Clinton voters came home. Ditto Reagan Democrats. Did I mention that Obama won the Catholic vote — and Scranton, the iconic blue-collar town?

Overall, the pollsters mostly got it right — and a tip of the hat to Scott Rasmussen for nailing the popular vote, 52 percent to 46, and to my friend Johnny Verhovek, age 15, for predicting the exact number of electoral votes in my local betting pool.

In my younger and more vulnerable years, my father gave me some advice on the question of what to do when your dreams come true: don’t tell anyone.

Conversely, what do we do when our darkest fears, our hardened conventional wisdom and our historic homilies are all found to be hooey? Shout it from the rooftops.

This was a transformative election, but not because there was some big lurch to the left or an unequivocal rejection of the right. The culture is confused, as always. Gay marriage lost in liberal California, in Florida and Arizona. But abortion restrictions were voted down in conservative South Dakota. And 73 percent of voters in Colorado disagreed with a longheld Republican contention that human life begins at conception.

This was the first real 21st century election — rejecting the incompetence of the Bush years, the race-baiting of Karl Rove’s majority strategy and the poison of media-driven wedge politics. As a nation, we rejoin the world community. As a sustaining narrative, we found our story again.

Obama’s ascendancy is likely to have the ironic effect of ending affirmative action, and the old identity politics. He became only the second Democrat since Franklin Roosevelt to win more than 51 percent of the popular vote not because he’s black, but because he is smarter, with better ideas, and showed leadership under fire. This was a victory for meritocracy.

If affirmative action survives, it will be more class-based, as Obama suggested on the campaign trail.

In losing the urban vote and the suburbs as well, the Republican party is now a shrinking regional party of older white males, represented in the media by talk-radio kooks and far-right women dressed in high couture to sell low-culture friction.

Obama won the New South of Virginia, Florida and perhaps North Carolina. He flipped three states in the New West, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. He won the fastest-growing ethnic group, Latinos, by better than a 2-1 margin. As for the young, nobody since modern polling of age groups began has racked up a better percentage of the 18- to 29-year-old vote. Obama won 66 percent of the kids.

And sure, the youth vote is only 18 percent of the total electorate, but that’s still a bigger slice than those over 65 years of age (one of the few McCain cohorts).

See the trend: new, emerging, growing, tomorrow, young. Dormant for the darkest years of the Bush presidency, the oldest strain of American DNA is evident again.

For Republicans, the trouble is deep and spreading. They nearly lost Montana, Missouri and the most populous county in Idaho, a state where a Democrat was just elected to Congress. When this kind of thing happens in Idaho, it’s time to start reading up on the Whig party for history lessons.

Even Texas tightened from four years ago. But do 23 percent of Texans really think Obama is a Muslim, as a recent poll found? If reality indeed has no home on the Texas plains, it’s the perfect place for Bush to retire.

One of the better lines in Obama’s election night speech was a slap to the rejectionist politics of Bush. Rove always insisted a president only needed 50 percent plus one to win. And Bush governed that way, permanently angering half the population.

On Tuesday night, Obama reached out to the other half. For those who did not vote for him, he said, “I will be your president, too.”

What an idea — simple and obvious. But like so much American common sense, it’s been missing for too long.


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hdmarketing
11-06-2008, 09:50 PM
ha ha ha ha ha ha:lmao2:
Tha was funny.

And while we are still laughing so hard, lets laugh som more at Homosexuals not getting the OK to Wed.

Yup the same people that voted for Obama, voted against Gay Maarriage.

7 in 10 Blacks, and 50% of Mexicans voted down the Prop..

Now that's Funny.
:lmao2:

LadyMod at scam.com
11-07-2008, 07:56 AM
ha ha ha ha ha ha:lmao2:
Tha was funny.

And while we are still laughing so hard, lets laugh som more at Homosexuals not getting the OK to Wed.

Yup the same people that voted for Obama, voted against Gay Maarriage.

7 in 10 Blacks, and 50% of Mexicans voted down the Prop..

Now that's Funny.
:lmao2:

Does allowing Gays the right to Civil Unions threaten you HD? Why? Are you afraid they are going to convert you or something? Are YOU really so gullible that you would suddenly turn GAY just because homosexuals got the same rights as other citizens of this country?


Lady Mod


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hdmarketing
11-07-2008, 09:51 AM
Does allowing Gays the right to Civil Unions threaten you HD? Why? Are you afraid they are going to convert you or something? Are YOU really so gullible that you would suddenly turn GAY just because homosexuals got the same rights as other citizens of this country?


Lady Mod


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I don't know LM, YOU seem to be obsessed with a Plumber that really isn't bothering YOU in any way.

I just thought I would add to the Laughing!!!

It really is funny isn't it LM.

Lets laugh some more, shall we.

:lmao2:

Keep laughing LM,

Ha, ha, ha, this is too funny. ...

hdmarketing
11-07-2008, 09:53 AM
Does allowing Gays the right to Civil Unions threaten you HD? Why? Are you afraid they are going to convert you or something? Are YOU really so gullible that you would suddenly turn GAY just because homosexuals got the same rights as other citizens of this country?


Lady Mod


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No LM,
It is just something that I stand for.

You of all people shoulg know about that.
After YOU act as someone that is all for standing up for what one beleive's in.

Well, I am just standing up for what I beleive in.

disrupter
11-07-2008, 12:20 PM
I stand for good clear thought processes,

not locked onto ideological or religious superstitious dogmatic ignorance.

Would you expect anything other than ideological ignorance to drive hdmarketing? certainly not brains or brain power.

Nope.

hdmarketing
11-07-2008, 04:28 PM
I stand for good clear thought processes,

not locked onto ideological or religious superstitious dogmatic ignorance.

Would you expect anything other than ideological ignorance to drive hdmarketing? certainly not brains or brain power.

Nope.

I am no basing my beleief or stance on "Religion" or what the "Bible" says, I am not a Religious person, and do not buy into Structured Religion.

I just think it's wrong, I feel that way, and it's nasty in my eyes.
It served the reproduction process nothing.

It's alright for you to think Homosexuality is ok, but it's dememted and twisted for me to think it's not?

Well speak of logic there disrupter and call me out on it?

Seems to me that the one with the brain trouble isn't me, but rather YOU!

I dis agree with your stance, therefore I am a Homophobic, Bible Thumping Biggot.

But if I was ok with Homosexuals, well then that would bring a whole new light on things.

ROdger Right
11-07-2008, 05:07 PM
U know i wouldnt mind getting lots of medical marijuana but the docs say i donbt need it because im not dying or need to help y appetite, the reason gays shouldnt be allowed to marry is on the same principle, they r not qualified for what they r signing up for

Frankg
11-07-2008, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Ladymod
Guess who won Joe the Plumber’s vote. Not Joe the symbol and unlicensed tax-dodger coming soon to a garage sale near you, but real people who make about $42,000 a year, the median income for plumbers and pipefitters.

Ladymod

Why do you obamatrons hate Joe Wurzelbacher ?

All he did was ask Barack Hussein Obama the following question:

"I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year. Your new tax plan's going to tax me more, isn't it?"

To which Barack Hussein Obama replied :

My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off [...] if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.

Its because of that answer I'm not jumping on the BO express , he's going to have to earn my support.

LadyMod at scam.com
11-07-2008, 08:56 PM
Ladymod

Why do you obamatrons hate Joe Wurzelbacher ?

All he did was ask Barack Hussein Obama the following question:



Frankie, try to understand old man, that no one hates good old Joe. But Joe only turned out to be a liar and phony. Kind of like McCain and Palin both did.

And for the REAL plumbers across America, using someone as an example and having the audacity to call him a real plumber is an insult.

It kind of looks like the REAL plumbers understood that.


Lady Mod

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Frankg
11-08-2008, 07:17 AM
What did he lie about ?

LadyMod at scam.com
11-08-2008, 08:32 AM
What did he lie about ?


I can't believe I have to point out the obvious to you frankie. The man wasn't a plumber and a long way from having to pay any more taxes under OBama's plan.

Those are pretty big whopper lies.

Of course now that the jobless rate is at a 14 year high (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/08/business/08jobs.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin)(thanks in part to Neoconservative policies) he may be eligable for government assistance soon.

:lmao2:

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Binky
11-08-2008, 11:15 AM
Joe, the plumber works for a man with a plumbing business. Joe does plumbing, so in that sense, he is a plumber, just not licenced, as yet. His boss has been chatting with him about one day taking over the business. And Joe is wanting to do that, when the time is right.

He asked a legitmate question, that is a real issue, and not some idiotic one. And by actually having the cahonies to chat with Obama and ask that question, the media and many people have tossed him to the wolves.

It seems that the media have become so shallow, that they are ready, at the drop of a hat, to condemn someone for actually using his brain and popping out an intelligent question.

How dare anyone to speak up and ask about real issues to our politicians. Heaven forbid! Let's throw him in the lions den.

Mick063
11-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Time to move past Joe. He will be getting his tax break soon enough.