View Full Version : Obama's Chief of Staff choice Rahm Emanuel son of a Terrorist!!
SeedyROM
11-06-2008, 08:32 PM
I thought Obama wanted to bridge the divide between Dems and Reps and work together to restore the economy. Well, he still can, the question is, will Obama control Emanuel or will this pitbull be as dangerous as Dick Cheney? CoS's tend to be tough an decisive, but this guy is going to be hard to rate. Emanual is a good friend of Pelosi and Emanual is non-partisan and way to left, not a moderate. Yikes......a friend of Pelosi!!:banghead:
Obama's Chief of Staff is just another Washington criminal that has aided with the bankrupting of Social Security, Medicare, healthcare and wants to tax your retirement savings.
Obama's Chief of Staff defended Bush and the war in Iraq. Rahm's father, a Jew who is connected to a Zionist terrorist group.
http://truthalliance.net/Archive/tabid/67/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1747/Default.aspx
Rahm Emanuel’s father was member of militant terror group that bombed hotels, massacred villagers - Obama pick is keen supporter of lobbying group aimed at creating militarized youth brigades
President elect Barack Obama’s first appointment, Rahm Emanuel, who is set to become chief-of-staff, is the son of a member of the Zionist terrorist group Irgun, which was responsible for bombing hotels, marketplaces as well as the infamous Deir Yassin massacre, in which hundreds of Palestinian villagers were slaughtered.
Revelations about Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers, a Weather Underground domestic terrorist, which dogged him during the final weeks of the campaign trail, pale in significance to his selection of Emanuel, whose father, Benjamin M. Emanuel, was an Irgun member.
Irgun has been labeled a terrorist organization by both The New York Times newspaper and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.
Irgun was closely affiliated with the widely
Emanuel worked in investment banking, reportedly earning $8 million in his three years as managing director of Wasserstein Perella & Co./Dresdner Kleinwort
Emanuel became a senior advisor to Clinton at the White House from 1993 to 1998.
On the night after the 1996 election, "Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name." His "take-no-prisoners attitude" earned him the nickname "Rahm-bo".
USA Today reported in late January 2007 that Emanuel failed to disclose that he was an officer of a family charity, a violation of law requiring members of Congress to report non-profit leadership roles.
Where is that change? The only change I see is MORE corruption! Hahahahaha
Emanuel is also a ballet dancer! Yikes, men in tights in the whitehouse. Rahm's anger suggests he is problematic, which is not a bad thing unless he has a knife in his hand or dead fish! :lmao2:
This guy once worked at Arby's........... from fast food to the whitehouse, never thought I'd see that. Maybe he should work in the whitehouse kitchen? He sounds kind of dangerous.........and for all we know he may have cut his finger off in a rage. :D
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20238595,00.html
• He could have been a ballet dancer. He studied ballet as a teen and was offered a scholarship to join the renowned Joffrey Ballet, but went to Sarah Lawrence College instead.
• He's missing part of a finger. In his youth, Emanuel badly cut a finger on a meat slicer while working at an Arby's. The wound became infected, and he lost half of the middle finger on his right hand.
• He volunteered with the Israeli army. During the first Gulf War, he did a stint as a civilian volunteer with the Israel Defense Forces, rust-proofing brakes on a base in northern Israel.
• He once sent a rotten dead fish to a political enemy. In the Clinton administration, his take-no-prisoners style earned him the nickname
"Rahm-bo."
asroc
11-06-2008, 08:46 PM
LOLOLOLOLOL
You should make up your mind. Do you want him to favor israel or not?
Oh, and be more positive please.
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 04:52 AM
Positive, I'm pointing out flaws in Obama's decisions and that's all you've got. Hard to be positive with bad mistakes made by politicians.
Independent Harry
11-07-2008, 09:56 AM
Positive, I'm pointing out flaws in Obama's decisions and that's all you've got. Hard to be positive with bad mistakes made by politicians.
The point is, this guy is a hardliner against Islam, and the Palestinians. So he woudl therefore by definition be against Islamic terrorism. Which do you want, do you want the US to support Israel, or Palestine, or neither. I personally vote for neither, but since most people seem to love Israel so much, I would think this woudl make you happy.
Mr. Blue
11-07-2008, 09:59 AM
I've always thought our extreme loyalty to Israel was slightly misguided...however, it looks like we'll just keep doing what we've been doing all along.
Rahm Emanuel has a reputation for getting things done which is exactly what you want in a Chief of Staff.
It took Frank 3 days to start blaming Obama for economic trends that started before he even started running for President.
It took Seedy, Hannity and Rove 2 days to start attacking Obama.
I think we can see where the change needs to begin.
Independent Harry
11-07-2008, 01:51 PM
Rahm Emanuel has a reputation for getting things done which is exactly what you want in a Chief of Staff.
It took Frank 3 days to start blaming Obama for economic trends that started before he even started running for President.
It took Seedy, Hannity and Rove 2 days to start attacking Obama.
I think we can see where the change needs to begin.
I love how the guy hasn't even stepped foot in the whitehouse yet, and he's already being blamed for shit...lol, nothing like the voices of reason...
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 03:23 PM
The point is, this guy is a hardliner against Islam, and the Palestinians. So he woudl therefore by definition be against Islamic terrorism. Which do you want, do you want the US to support Israel, or Palestine, or neither. I personally vote for neither, but since most people seem to love Israel so much, I would think this woudl make you happy.
Israel needs to grow up and face its enemies without our soldiers and money. I don't know why you'd think I was in favor loving Israel, the neocons and neolib money comes from Israel. So on one hand we can all hope for thier best, but on the other, shouldn't they deal with thier own threats without US intervention? As is our boots will outnumber thiers if we invade Iran, that's exactly what the neo's want, that's how they get paid to secretly buy a war. Israel will only be required to use the prorata number of soldiers while we send in the masses.
We'll see whether Emanuel will be a hardliner against Islam or not, the point I made is, this man is not liked by many in DC. We will see support for the choice because the party always backs a new administration even though many will quietly disagree. This man represents the old DC ways, he does not represent the "Change" message that Obama inspired a nation with. 3 of Obama's transition team are from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, they too represent the old DC ways and show bad judgement in thier selection. We need fresh ideas not the same ole DC insider club.
This choice for CoS is a bad one. David Axelrod would have been a great choice. Hardliners tend to pitbull and use tactics that create more tension along with some results. Emanuel is a very Partisan politician and he's way to the left which suggests Obama will rule from the hard left, not a moderate he pretended to be at times.
Good to see you didn't attack with negatives. I posted relevant information and the writers of the articles are the ones who should be attacked. As is, the partisan hacks attack me rather than openly discuss problems with this choice. The smart choice is to address the relevant issues rather than attack the thread poster. I've seen many attacks on members and no intelligent dialog. People can learn from thier mistakes and they can learn from the negatives that are outlined in these discussions. The problem is, they have closed minds geared towards hating everyone who posts something they disagree with, very immature and lacking in substance.
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 03:26 PM
I've always thought our extreme loyalty to Israel was slightly misguided...however, it looks like we'll just keep doing what we've been doing all along.
Exactly, 4 more years of the same old same old. Some think Israeli's are the chosen ones. I see them as another country of people wanting peace and prosperity. Problem is, they want us to give it to them. Our close ties to Israel have cost us dearly.
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 03:30 PM
Rahm Emanuel has a reputation for getting things done which is exactly what you want in a Chief of Staff.
It took Frank 3 days to start blaming Obama for economic trends that started before he even started running for President.
It took Seedy, Hannity and Rove 2 days to start attacking Obama.
I think we can see where the change needs to begin.
What did Hannity have to say about Emanuel? I'm pointing out problems with Obama's choice, not an attack. It is you 3 who choose to attack with negatives and ridicule. You got it backwards.
asroc
11-07-2008, 04:43 PM
So.... Obama is a secret muslim socialist with numerous ties to anti-American radicals and Islamic fundamentalists, who puts the son of a radical Israeli nationalist "terrorist" in his cabinet.
Do I have that straight?
What did Hannity have to say about Emanuel? I'm pointing out problems with Obama's choice, not an attack. It is you 3 who choose to attack with negatives and ridicule. You got it backwards.
"Obama's Chief of Staff choice Rahm Emanuel son of a Terrorist!!" That's not exactly a title that's designed for rational discussions or even a title that is accurate in any way. Was Emanuel's father ever convicted of terrorism or is this just the same old and tired try to scare people into thinking your emotional way?
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 05:06 PM
"Obama's Chief of Staff choice Rahm Emanuel son of a Terrorist!!" That's not exactly a title that's designed for rational discussions or even a title that is accurate in any way. Was Emanuel's father ever convicted of terrorism or is this just the same old and tired try to scare people into thinking your emotional way?
The article speaks for itself. You people attacked the competiton with nonsense about clothes, hair and makeup to say the least. You do not control free speech, my choice of words suffices since this man is the son of a militant. I'm not emootional over this choice but he is a bad choice, as usual, you overreact and act like a child with accusations. You need to regain a sense of humor! Did I say Emanuel's father was arrested?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel
Rahm Israel Emanuel (Hebrew: רם עמנואל) was born in Chicago, Illinois.[29] His first name, Rahm, means "high" or "lofty" in Hebrew,[30] while his last name, Emanuel, means "God is with us."
According to his father, his son is the namesake of Rahamim, a Lehi combatant who was killed.[31] Rahm’s surname was adopted by his family in 1933, after Rahm’s paternal uncle, Emanuel Auerbach, was killed in a skirmish with Arabs in Jerusalem.[32] His father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a pediatrician and former member of the Irgun,[31] a militant Zionist group active in the British Mandate of Palestine between 1931 and 1948.
Irgun............Killing innocent civilians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
Irgun (Hebrew: ארגון; shorthand for HaIrgun HaTzva'i HaLe'umi BeEretz Yisra'el, הארגון הצבאי הלאומי בארץ ישראל, "National Military Organization in the Land of Israel") was a militant Zionist group that operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948. It was established as a militant offshoot of the earlier and larger Jewish paramilitary organization Haganah (Hebrew: "The Defense", ההגנה). For secrecy reasons, people often referred to the Irgun, during that time, as Haganah Bet (Hebrew: literally "Defense 'B' " or "Second Defense", הגנה ב), or alternatively as Haganah Ha'leumit (ההגנה הלאומית) or Ha'ma'amad (המעמד). In present-day Israel, Irgun is commonly referred to as Etzel (אצ"ל), an acronym of the Hebrew initials.
The Irgun was the armed expression of the nascent ideology of Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky. He expressed this ideology as "every Jew had the right to enter Palestine; only active retaliation would deter the Arabs and the British; only Jewish armed force would ensure the Jewish state".[1] Initially, a central part of their efforts included attacks against Palestinian Arabs,[2] but it increasingly shifted to attacks against the British. Some of the better-known attacks by Irgun were the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre (accomplished together with the Stern Gang) on 9 April 1948. In the West, Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times newspaper,[3][4] and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.[5] Irgun attacks prompted a formal declaration from the World Zionist Congress in 1946, which strongly condemned "the shedding of innocent blood as a means of political warfare".[6]
Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut (or "Freedom") party, which led to today's Likud party. Likud has led or been part of most Israeli governments since 1977.
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 05:08 PM
So.... Obama is a secret muslim socialist with numerous ties to anti-American radicals and Islamic fundamentalists, who puts the son of a radical Israeli nationalist "terrorist" in his cabinet.
Do I have that straight?
Neither you nor IHarry seem to get it straight. Obama is not a terrorist, a radical sure, extremist no, friend of terrorists, yes. Got that straight?? Or do you need a Websters? Maybe you are confusing me with HG or one of the others!!
Communicate more you'll go further in life and learn more too!
The article speaks for itself. You people attacked the competiton with nonsense about clothes, hair and makeup to say the least.
Another perfect example of the divide and conquer strategy based on prejudice.
I never attacked or cared about Palin wasting vast amounts of republican money. My point was two fold on the issue.
GOP strategist thought her appearance was more important then actual policy when it came to appealing to people that might vote for her.
The double standard of the Neoconservative media attacking Edwards for spending $400 on a hair cut while defending Palin for spending 2 to 3 times that every day on makeup. Come on, that's some funny shit.
Neither you nor IHarry seem to get it straight. Obama is not a terrorist, a radical sure, extremist no, friend of terrorists, yes. Got that straight?? Or do you need a Websters? Maybe you are confusing me with HG or one of the others!!
Communicate more you'll go further in life and learn more too!
So your claim about Emanual's father being a terrorist is as false as all the claims about Obama's father. Come on Seedy, you're smarter then this. Can't you see that all it does is divide the nation and make your case very pathetically weak. If you have to lie to make your case then why bother even trying any more?
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 05:35 PM
So your claim about Emanual's father being a terrorist is as false as all the claims about Obama's father. Come on Seedy, you're smarter then this. Can't you see that all it does is divide the nation and make your case very pathetically weak. If you have to lie to make your case then why bother even trying any more?
You didn't read the second wikipedia source now did you, idiot? Militant groups like this were not part of the military, they were more like a radical wing of the CIA. They attacked and killed civilians.
Reading comprehension owns you!
You know damn well that militants killing civilians are not military. I know for a fact you did not even go to the Wiki page where a NY Times article outlined this group as terrorists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
In the West, Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times newspaper,[3][4] and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.[5] Irgun attacks prompted a formal declaration from the World Zionist Congress in 1946, which strongly condemned "the shedding of innocent blood as a means of political warfare
You didn't read the second wikipedia source now did you, idiot? Militant groups like this were not part of the military, they were more like a radical wing of the CIA. They attacked and killed civilians.
Reading comprehension owns you!
You know damn well that militants killing civilians are not military. I know for a fact you did not even go to the Wiki page where a NY Times article outlined this group as terrorists.
Was he a convicted terrorist or not?
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 05:45 PM
Another perfect example of the divide and conquer strategy based on prejudice.
I never attacked or cared about Palin wasting vast amounts of republican money. My point was two fold on the issue.
GOP strategist thought her appearance was more important then actual policy when it came to appealing to people that might vote for her.
The double standard of the Neoconservative media attacking Edwards for spending $400 on a hair cut while defending Palin for spending 2 to 3 times that every day on makeup. Come on, that's some funny shit.
:lmao2: Yes you did Sexist Womanizing liar!:thumbsup:
Playmate turned Porn star, you actually posted this thread Sirmoby, lol:lmao2:
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=6402
Makeup and American Idol, surely you din't make fun of makeup, woot!
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=6478
Who cares about hair, Sirmoby does!
http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=6536
ROdger Right
11-07-2008, 05:48 PM
Exactly, 4 more years of the same old same old. Some tink Israeli's are the chosen ones. I see them as another country of people wanting peace and prosperity. Problem is, they want us to give it to them. Our close ties to Israel have cost us dearly.
we should probably protect isreal as best we can seeing how we put them back in the holy desert
They are not the only government that is still around because of us. We support governments that provide freedom and that can fight our wars for us.
We lead the world and they all expect us to save them from every scary thing that can ahppen, to help those who ask for it
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 05:56 PM
Was he a convicted terrorist or not?
I never said he was arrested now did I? The man died in a raid.
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 06:06 PM
we should probably protect isreal as best we can seeing how we put them back in the holy desert
They are not the only government that is still around because of us. We support governments that provide freedom and that can fight our wars for us.
We lead the world and they all expect us to save them from every scary thing that can ahppen, to help those who ask for it
Israeli's should have been located elsewhere, they were placed in the middle of hell. Israel can protect itself, they have a strong army and airforce and the funds to strike Iran on thier own. I'd rather they attack Iran and go it alone, if they need our help they can ask for help thru NATO or the UN. Iran could be bluffing about how far along their nuke development has progressed to draw the USA into conflict which would futher enrage other countries. Better to wait till they need help than listen to neocons and neolibs hellbent on buying a war like we saw in Iraq.
asroc
11-07-2008, 06:12 PM
So.... Obama is a secret muslim socialist with numerous ties to anti-American radicals and Islamic fundamentalists, who puts the son of a radical Israeli nationalist "terrorist" in his cabinet.
Do I have that straight?
Neither you nor IHarry seem to get it straight. Obama is not a terrorist, a radical sure, extremist no, friend of terrorists, yes. Got that straight?? Or do you need a Websters? Maybe you are confusing me with HG or one of the others!!
Communicate more you'll go further in life and learn more too!
I didn't say Obama was a terrorist, even in jest.
Maybe you need to get it straight.
ROdger Right
11-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Israeli's should have been located elsewhere, they were placed in the middle of hell. Israel can protect itself, they have a strong army and airforce and the funds to strike Iran on thier own. I'd rather they attack Iran and go it alone, if they need our help they can ask for help thru NATO or the UN. Iran could be bluffing about how far along their nuke development has progressed to draw the USA into conflict which would futher enrage other countries. Better to wait till they need help than listen to neocons and neolibs hellbent on buying a war like we saw in Iraq.
but the problem is irsreal wouldnt fight iran alone because iran has plenty of allies to help and we know that irans been lying about its nukes because it has been since it began to make them, and as the US has shown we will take our time in dealing with iran in a variety of ways other than war which is the last option
NATO and the UN.... would they send in peace keeping tropps in a full blown war. At the moment iran is the one threating with the nukes, we cant just leave isreal hanging when it needs us most
Isreal is not georgia so u know that they would be doing most of the fighting if a war with Iran and surrounding countries broke out. We shouldnt be intimidated or afraid of losing our sons if it keeps a piece of the earth habital
SeedyROM
11-07-2008, 07:33 PM
I didn't say Obama was a terrorist, even in jest.
Maybe you need to get it straight.
I know, my point was that it was other people who called Obama a
terrorist not me. I was teasing you.
I never said he was arrested now did I? The man died in a raid.
You stated that he was a terrorist and now you can't defend that flat out lie.
There was a time in America where calling someone a terrorist was a serious accusation. There was a time in America where people where innocent until proven guilty. Just because News Corp and Clear Channel made it common place in order to scare Americans doesn't make it right.
You're wrong. You lied. Admit it.
SeedyROM
11-12-2008, 08:42 PM
You stated that he was a terrorist and now you can't defend that flat out lie.
There was a time in America where calling someone a terrorist was a serious accusation. There was a time in America where people where innocent until proven guilty. Just because News Corp and Clear Channel made it common place in order to scare Americans doesn't make it right.
You're wrong. You lied. Admit it.
Its people like you who coause problems in DC all day long. Get your fucking facts straight!!! The articles called the man's father a terrorist aka militant terror group.
http://truthalliance.net/Archive/tab...7/Default.aspx
Rahm Emanuel’s father was member of militant terror group that bombed hotels, massacred villagers - Obama pick is keen supporter of lobbying group aimed at creating militarized youth brigades
You need to read the facts and comprehend what is written, then you need to walk away and go think about what you've read. When and only when you've separated fact from the fiction in your head should you dare respond to what you've read. You have a serious problem of blaming members for what is written in the articles, the articles don't lie, therefore I did not lie!!!
You are causing serious problems on this website with the lies and silly spin tactics hellbent on deceiving members with false accusations. The facts are not in dispute. Your desires to deceive members is in question!!!
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