PLEASE - Help me understand Fox News

[Moby]

No bashing here as I really want to understand something so please don't come in here and bash Fox or the people that watch it.

I'm channel flipping while eating my lunch and I end up on Fox News right as they start asking the question of "Why republicans lost" and they stated that after the break they were going to have Karl Rove and Sarah Palin on to discuss it.

What I don't understand is why they would be asking these two people and why viewers would believe that they would get a meaningful and accurate answer.

Can you PLEASE explain?

[asroc]

They're going to give the normal trite answers about how the Republican Party has to do soul searching to find its core beliefs again.

Who knows what Palin will do, probably a TV show like Huckabee.

[Kanadesaga]

No bashing here as I really want to understand something so please don't come in here and bash Fox or the people that watch it.

I'm channel flipping while eating my lunch and I end up on Fox News right as they start asking the question of "Why republicans lost" and they stated that after the break they were going to have Karl Rove and Sarah Palin on to discuss it.

What I don't understand is why they would be asking these two people and why viewers would believe that they would get a meaningful and accurate answer.

Can you PLEASE explain?

Who else do they have to give any kind of response? They have made their bed, they must sleep with their choices. and don't forget, many on the right are now bitter and hate-filled and want to destroy Obama like they did Clinton. They need Fox, where else do they have to go? MSNBC? CNN?

[Moby]

Who else do they have to give any kind of response? They have made their bed, they must sleep with their choices. and don't forget, many on the right are now bitter and hate-filled and want to destroy Obama like they did Clinton. They need Fox, where else do they have to go? MSNBC? CNN?
Thanks for allowing this thread to flow and not being a dick head. :banghead:

[Mick063]

The Republicans don't get it. Ever see the cartoon character saw off the very tree limb he is standing on?

1) You can't scare people with "Tax and spend liberal" when you spend more money than "Liberals" do.

2) There is a hidden cost for "cheap labor". For every dollar a small business saves in "cheap labor", there is an equivalent cost in political power. If you open the flood gates at the border for cheap labor followed by granting amnesty, then you can't blame the "immigrants" for eventually wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Additionally, if you ship the best jobs overseas, then you can't blame blue collar workers for raising hell as well.

3) The biggest problem of all? The people that convey their message (that is where Fox comes in). The idea is to bring people into your cause....not have a pep rally for extremists that will vote for you anyway.

Want to alienate people outside of your base? Have Bill O'Rielly (insert Hannity here as well) interrupt a guest about 15 times in a row leaving the viewers just as divided at the conclusion as they were in the beginning. Half are saying "right on!" Half are thinking "I never really did get to hear a full answer." Fox lovers confuse "No Spin" with rude interrupts. Want to see how a real "discussion" should take place? Watch "The Jim Leherer News Hour". That is how you gain credibility as an interviewer.

Limbaugh, Hannity, Colston, O'Reilly, and Rove. These messengers have done irreparable damage to the Republican image. When the Republicans do decide that they must be more inclusive, they will find that they have no need for such extremist messengers. These people are simply out of touch with the modern demographics of America.

[Kanadesaga]

Thanks for allowing this thread to flow and not being a dick head. :banghead:

I wasn't trying to be a dickhead. I was stating what I thought was obvious. you asked why people would believe Rove or Palin on Fox. and I said who else would they believe. If Dan Plouffe or Rahm Emanuel spoke on fox, would fox viewers believe them?

[Binky]

They're going to give the normal trite answers about how the Republican Party has to do soul searching to find its core beliefs again.

Who knows what Palin will do, probably a TV show like Huckabee.


Actually, I've seen Huckabees show. He's a very likeable guy. He also plays the guitar. He has a good repore with his audience and guests. I can't help but like the man.

As for Palin, I don't think she knows what she's going to do other than to go back to being a governor. Whatever she chooses to do, she'll be great at it. She's a very likeable lady where her humor and personality shine. Maybe she'll end up with a show as well. Who knows?

[doctordog]

No bashing here as I really want to understand something so please don't come in here and bash Fox or the people that watch it.

I'm channel flipping while eating my lunch and I end up on Fox News right as they start asking the question of "Why republicans lost" and they stated that after the break they were going to have Karl Rove and Sarah Palin on to discuss it.

What I don't understand is why they would be asking these two people and why viewers would believe that they would get a meaningful and accurate answer.

Can you PLEASE explain?

Rove is for the strategy side of answers and Palin is known as a reformer so she can offer what could have been done different. Rove is past and Palin is future. The right can't go to CNN, MSNBC, CBS, or ABC and get any insight that is usable. We will all have the opportunity to see how things are changing next year. Questions we will need answers to include:

Will consumer goods rise as corporate taxes are pushed up?
What companies will leave due to these taxes?
Will the middle class completely disappear as socialist ideas are pushed and can they recover from such a program?
What will insured people incur from a national healthcare program that encourages employers to drop coverage?

Even though I wasn't for this it is time to get behind our President and make sure our voices are heard more than ever.

[Mick063]

Actually, I've seen Huckabees show. He's a very likeable guy. He also plays the guitar. He has a good repore with his audience and guests. I can't help but like the man.

As for Palin, I don't think she knows what she's going to do other than to go back to being a governor. Whatever she chooses to do, she'll be great at it. She's a very likeable lady where her humor and personality shine. Maybe she'll end up with a show as well. Who knows?


You will notice I didn't include Huckabee or Gingrich in my list. I am philosophically opposed to them. I don't support most of their views. But I will listen to what they have to say. Alternately, I will immediately change channels on Hannity, Colston, Limbaugh, Rove, and O'Reilly. They are poor, poor messengers for conservatives.

Unbelievable as it seems, I actually like Newt Gingrich. His "Contract with America" was/is the type of innovative thinking that the Republican party desperately needs.

[SeedyROM]

Would you rather have Dem Dick Morris long time friend of Bill Clinton? Everyone has an opinion, Fox will line up others to discuss the matter. Rove seems to know his game, he openly criticized several of McCain's mistakes throughout the last 22 months. Rove may be a crook but his opinion will be accurate to certain extent. As will the opinions of others.

McCain should have played dirtier than he did. McCain often backed down once BO gave a response. It was if Mac was in a neverending debate with every accusation, once BO gave a response, Mac moved on to the next issue. The economy, socialism, no FP skills and lack of experience in general were the strong points Mac stuck to. Mac should have hammered BO even more pertaining to his terrorist friends and generic responses.

BO was far more negative than Mac. A non partisan study group said so. I'll post the thread in a minute. Todays market selloff was all about BO, expect more of the same when wallstreet disagrees with BO.

[asroc]

Actually, I've seen Huckabees show. He's a very likeable guy. He also plays the guitar. He has a good repore with his audience and guests. I can't help but like the man.

As for Palin, I don't think she knows what she's going to do other than to go back to being a governor. Whatever she chooses to do, she'll be great at it. She's a very likeable lady where her humor and personality shine. Maybe she'll end up with a show as well. Who knows?

I agree completely about Huckabee, he's a genuinely nice guy and the only one of the Republican candidates in this election that seemed remotely natural in his own skin.

And I'm saying this even though he and I would probably disagree on everything.