Introducing your new president.

[Binky]

President Barrack Hussein Obama. It has a ring to it, don't you think?

[disrupter]

His roots are amazingly international.
Indonesia, Kenya, Hawaii, Chicago.

President for a globe?

The sheer gravity, scope & mind boggling detail seem too much to even manage.

I suppose a sketch artist who outlines the general lay of things to best effect & with others who ferret out the finer & finer details sounds like the best paradigm.

I can't even imagine,
the job you can never run away from.

if i cared i would feel sorry for him.

The modern world is something you can't run away from like you could in earlier centuries. There used to always be some vast, forbidding land or seascape to escape into & try to set up shop in.

Now it seems like a naked, exposed dust fleck.
It is almost too accessible.

The vast & mysterious, becomes the small & banal.

[asroc]

Also, I've read on some blogs that he's in Al Qaeda!

[Frankg]

President Barrack Hussein Obama. It has a ring to it, don't you think?

or Flying Monkee, .....think I'll go with that for the next four years

[LadyMod at scam.com]

or Flying Monkee, .....think I'll go with that for the next four years

Oh really? I guess you are prejudice after all frankie because I could swear you said once that you support the president right or wrong because of the office.


LOL, your TRUE colors are showing.


Lady Mod

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[Frankg]

Oh really? I guess you are prejudice after all frankie because I could swear you said once that you support the president right or wrong because of the office.


LOL, your TRUE colors are showing.


Lady Mod

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That's true , until Barack Hussein Obama said that he wants to "spread the wealth around " . That did it for me

Maybe you're ok with giving every schmuck who doesn't feel like working a handout , not me.

And the term Flying Monkey is in no way racist

[LadyMod at scam.com]

That's true , until Barack Hussein Obama said that he wants to "spread the wealth around " . That did it for me

Maybe you're ok with giving every schmuck who doesn't feel like working a handout , not me.

And the term Flying Monkey is in no way racist


You just show your ignorance and willingness to believe everything the far right fed you frankie.

Many independent analyzers have looked at OBama's tax plan and have said otherwise.

No one who doesn't work is going to be getting a handout under this president any more than they did under Bush. Do the homework Cupcake and stop drinking the Koolaide.


Lady Mod

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[hdmarketing]

or Flying Monkee, .....think I'll go with that for the next four years

After All Frank, tha's what we have heard about Bush now for the last 8.

But now WE are prejudice for calling Obama a Monkey.:lmao2:


I guess in Bill's Eyes it's "Hate".

But it wasn't "Hate" as long as the attacks were against Bush right?

[Independent Harry]

After All Frank, tha's what we have heard about Bush now for the last 8.

But now WE are prejudice for calling Obama a Monkey.:lmao2:


I guess in Bill's Eyes it's "Hate".

But it wasn't "Hate" as long as the attacks were against Bush right?

Bush proved himself to be an idiot, Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet...

[hdmarketing]

Bush proved himself to be an idiot, Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet...

Obama has long proven he is an idiot.

BTW Harry, Since you are in the "Mortgage" business, I guess you will see a slow down since folks won't be wanting to sell as much.
Not with the increase in Sales taxes to be put on them.

I am just thankful I have had a successful business and am now going to retire for the third time.

I am also glad I got my place in the "Smokies" built and can now sit back and just watch you morons self distruct.

:lmao2:

[SirMoby]

or Flying Monkee, .....think I'll go with that for the next four years
Didn't you write here that you would respect and follow the next President no matter who they were? Was that just phony patriotism?

[SirMoby]

Oh really? I guess you are prejudice after all frankie because I could swear you said once that you support the president right or wrong because of the office.
You can always find an excuse and blame someone else for your own faults. If there's anything that Palin showed Americans it was this.

[asroc]

http://bayimg.com/image/halgkaabm.jpg

[Kanadesaga]

or Flying Monkee, .....think I'll go with that for the next four years


How's those white sheets coming?

[Kanadesaga]

That's true , until Barack Hussein Obama said that he wants to "spread the wealth around " . That did it for me

Maybe you're ok with giving every schmuck who doesn't feel like working a handout , not me.

And the term Flying Monkey is in no way racist


Yes it is frankie. Take that hood off and look around boy, it's a new fucking day.

[Kanadesaga]

After All Frank, tha's what we have heard about Bush now for the last 8.

But now WE are prejudice for calling Obama a Monkey.:lmao2:


I guess in Bill's Eyes it's "Hate".

But it wasn't "Hate" as long as the attacks were against Bush right?


that's right.

[Independent Harry]

Obama has long proven he is an idiot.

BTW Harry, Since you are in the "Mortgage" business, I guess you will see a slow down since folks won't be wanting to sell as much.
Not with the increase in Sales taxes to be put on them.

I am just thankful I have had a successful business and am now going to retire for the third time.

I am also glad I got my place in the "Smokies" built and can now sit back and just watch you morons self distruct.

:lmao2:

I got out of the "mortgage" business in '07. You don't pay a sales tax on a home, its called a capital gains tax you retard. Maybe you could forget to install the internet when you head to the smokies. That way people won't have to hear you talk about yourself so much...

[asroc]

hdmarketing, a man who can barely spell and read, manages to thrive. It's a uniquely American Horatio Alger story.

[Binky]

Well, what's done is done. Now it's time to stop hating and squabbling and work together to get our country back on the right track, rather than to continue to tear it down. Here's our chance to change things around and make America a better place for our youngsters coming up.

[Binky]

http://bayimg.com/image/halgkaabm.jpg

Is this suppose to depict that you are alone?

[Kanadesaga]

Well, what's done is done. Now it's time to stop hating and squabbling and work together to get our country back on the right track, rather than to continue to tear it down. Here's our chance to change things around and make America a better place for our youngsters coming up.

It appears as though as though hd and frankie and others aren't willing to do what they've been telling us to do for then past four years. I think that's called a hypocrite.

I guess they're all just as petty and anti-american as they've been calling us for 8 years. :lmao2:

[hdmarketing]

hdmarketing, a man who can barely spell and read, manages to thrive. It's a uniquely American Horatio Alger story.


It's called a Staff dip shit.

Yet I need not explaing myself and what I do to you or anyone here on this board.

Although most here know what I do, it really isn't much of your business.

[hdmarketing]

I got out of the "mortgage" business in '07. You don't pay a sales tax on a home, its called a capital gains tax you retard. Maybe you could forget to install the internet when you head to the smokies. That way people won't have to hear you talk about yourself so much...

You know damn good and well what I was talking about.

I knew it and you Knew it.

BTW, You are still wrong about the CRA.:taunt:

[asroc]

It's called a Staff dip shit.

Yet I need not explaing myself and what I do to you or anyone here on this board.

Although most here know what I do, it really isn't much of your business.

I don't understand this post, please do it over. Thanks.

[Kanadesaga]

I don't understand this post, please do it over. Thanks.


He'll get Betty right on it.:lmao2:

[SeedyROM]

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Many independent analyzers have looked at OBama's tax plan and have said otherwise.

No one who doesn't work is going to be getting a handout under this president any more than they did under Bush. Do the homework Cupcake and stop drinking the Koolaide.

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Pertaining to BO's no new taxes plan..... you'll be eating those words pay check to paycheck. Some economists want BO to tax 401k retirement accounts, a crazy idea, but we all know dems/Clinton created taxes on SSI checks and unemployment compensation........aka Indian Giver taxes. We can't trust this man to know when enough is enough.


http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/10/23/would-obama-dems-kill-401k-plans.html
House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans.

In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created "guaranteed retirement accounts" for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return. Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee's Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since "the savings rate isn't going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that's not generating what we now say it should."

[Independent Harry]

Pertaining to BO's no new taxes plan..... you'll be eating those words pay check to paycheck. Some economists want BO to tax 401k retirement accounts, a crazy idea, but we all know dems/Clinton created taxes on SSI checks and unemployment compensation........aka Indian Giver taxes. We can't trust this man to know when enough is enough.

401k's are already taxed, they are just tax deferred. If they tax them up front, then they won't tax them on the back end. Kind of like life insurance.

[SeedyROM]

401k's are already taxed, they are just tax deferred. If they tax them up front, then they won't tax them on the back end. Kind of like life insurance.

Well it depends on whose adivce BO takes. Taxing 401k's yearly is a bad idea. Taxing upon withdrawal is not good either but it is common practice since Clinton passed the law. To fund BO's plan will require creative tax ideas, taxing the rich will not pay for 80% of BO's plans. The poor and middle class will see tax increases that take back some of the tax cuts. Give a little, take some back quietly.

[Smurf-Herder]

BTW, here's something that I just heard someone call on the radio about yesterday.

If you are a renter and your landlord gets a tax increase, your rent is going up ....... on top of all the other stuff.

[wayers57]

BTW, here's something that I just heard someone call on the radio about yesterday.

If you are a renter and your landlord gets a tax increase, your rent is going up ....... on top of all the other stuff.

My notices are going out this week before the leases renew in 09'. Keep your accountant close for the next 4, it might make the difference between retirement or being a greeter at Wal Mart.

[asroc]

Many cities, including mine, have legal limits for rent increases per year.

[wayers57]

Many cities, including mine, have legal limits for rent increases per year.

They do here too, but this is the first one in 5, so I am good to go.

[Smurf-Herder]

Many cities, including mine, have legal limits for rent increases per year.

Hey, guess what.

I don't live in a city; and most of the country doesn't either.

My rent went up 30% in three years, until the past two years.

[asroc]

I use the term "city" loosely, it's a college town with 100k people during the school year, 70k during the summer.

That sucks about your rent, though. I can't believe that happened to you despite these helpful Bush tax cuts.

[Smurf-Herder]

I use the term "city" loosely, it's a college town with 100k people during the school year, 70k during the summer.

That sucks about your rent, though. I can't believe that happened to you despite these helpful Bush tax cuts.

Greedy landlord. Kept saying everybody was using too much water and his water bill kept going up.

It was the damned kids with the sports cars, washing then in the complex; instead of going to the car wash. So all our rents went up, because of selfish inconsiderate kids.

[Kanadesaga]

Greedy landlord. Kept saying everybody was using too much water and his water bill kept going up.

It was the damned kids with the sports cars, washing then in the complex; instead of going to the car wash. So all our rents went up, because of selfish inconsiderate kids.


sound familiar? greedy, inconsiderate conservatives.

[Smurf-Herder]

sound familiar? greedy, inconsiderate conservatives.

What's your problem?

Why aren't you happy your guy won?

Why can't you let go of the hate?

Especially when you're going on and on about conservatives supposedly not letting go on this board.

[Kanadesaga]

What's your problem?

Why aren't you happy your guy won?

Why can't you let go of the hate?

Especially when you're going on and on about conservatives supposedly not letting go on this board.


I am ecstatic that Obama won. But let us not forget that conservatives and reaganomincs have led us to this point,Not alone, but they led the charge. Then they rubbed everyone else's noses in their shit and crowed about it. and I have yet to see any kind of mea culpa from the right.


Besides I've been attacked and insulted since I got here today. If I sound rankled there is good reason.

[Smurf-Herder]

I am ecstatic that Obama won. But let us not forget that conservatives and reaganomincs have led us to this point,Not alone, but they led the charge. Then they rubbed everyone else's noses in their shit and crowed about it. and I have yet to see any kind of mea culpa from the right.


Besides I've been attacked and insulted since I got here today. If I sound rankled there is good reason.

True conservatives despise neocons (as you call them).

We consider them the elite, out of touch with the grassroots. They make us all look bad, just because we agree on some basic principles. They've taken things to the extreme and abused our trust.

But that doesn't excuse the elite on the Democrat side, for doing the same thing to their people.

It really isn't about the rich and poor, or the liberals and conservatives. It's about the elite jerking around the grassroots, most of which are generally moderate; forcing us into having to take sides with them, just because they (claim to) share the same basic principles.

If you took the average person on this board, you'd find liberals who have conservative views on some things and conservatives who have some liberal views on some things.

You know how conservative I am, right?

Well, I'm sorry San Francisco wasn't able to legalize prostitution - but I'm overjoyed that Massachusetts decriminalized marijuana. As an example.

[Kanadesaga]

True conservatives despise neocons (as you call them).

We consider them the elite, out of touch with the grassroots. They make us all look bad, just because we agree on some basic principles. They've taken things to the extreme and abused our trust.

sucks doesn't it?

But that doesn't excuse the elite on the Democrat side, for doing the same thing to their people.

agreed.

It really isn't about the rich and poor, or the liberals and conservatives. It's about the elite jerking around the grassroots, most of which are generally moderate; forcing us into having to take sides with them, just because they (claim to) share the same basic principles.

NO, it is about rich/poor. It always has been and always will be. the elite of both parties are the rich. and they serve only themsleves.




If you took the average person on this board, you'd find liberals who have conservative views on some things and conservatives who have some liberal views on some things.

Youi wouldn't believe how conservative I am, on certain issues.




You know how conservative I am, right?

Well, I'm sorry San Francisco wasn't able to legalize prostitution - but I'm overjoyed that Massachusetts decriminalized marijuana. As an example.

bellweather issue: prop 8?

[Smurf-Herder]

NO, it is about rich/poor. It always has been and always will be. the elite of both parties are the rich. and they serve only themsleves.



I can't agree on that. It depends on the individual.

Look at those individuals who give back to the people.

Bill Gates has donated huge amounts, in some cases entire computer networks for school systems.

Oprah gives vast amounts to helping others.

And a vast majority of the rich have invested in ways that have grown the standard of living; and employ everybody else who isn't, in one way or another.

To despise the rich, just because they're rich, is the antithesis of the American Dream. To aspire to a higher standard of living through our own efforts and inspiration.

Would you hate the inventors of the microwave oven and Play Station, just because they made money from creating something you now have to either make life easier, or enjoy using?

It all depends on the indivual person or corporation; and what they've gone through to get where they are, and what they do once they get there.

Now that's the private sector. Politicians and their benefactors are a different story. Many have gone counter to what the founding fathers intended.

[Mick063]

I have faith that he will be the greatest President in my lifetime. I suppose that title was previously shared by Ronald Reagan and John Kennedy. I have never felt better about a president elect in my life.

Then again, I considered George Bush's State of the Union address following 9/11 as extremely motivational oratory. Perhaps the best I have ever heard.

I was 100% behind George Bush following 9/11. I am 100% behind Barak Obama now. I voted for both as well.

[Kanadesaga]

I can't agree on that. It depends on the individual.

Look at those individuals who give back to the people.

Bill Gates has donated huge amounts, in some cases entire computer networks for school systems.

Oprah gives vast amounts to helping others.

Those unfortunately are not the rule. bill gates did not start giving money till he had a wife and children. I don't believe his generousity is self driven.

And a vast majority of the rich have invested in ways that have grown the standard of living; and employ everybody else who isn't, in one way or another.


and many more have gotten rich sending jobs overseas, like Mitt Romney.

To despise the rich, just because they're rich, is the antithesis of the American Dream. To aspire to a higher standard of living through our own efforts and inspiration.

I don't despise because they're rich, I despise becaus ethey act privileged.

Would you hate the inventors of the microwave oven and Play Station, just because they made money from creating something you now have to either make life easier, or enjoy using?

Not at all, I hate the corporate slugs who have ruined this country. shall I list, Starting with Kenny Lay. (who I still want dug up to be sure he is dead.)
I think you get my point. Shipping jobs overseas is dangerous to national security.

It all depends on the indivual person or corporation; and what they've gone through to get where they are, and what they do once they get there.

Yes it does. Many fail the test.

Now that's the private sector. Politicians and their benefactors are a different story. Many have gone counter to what the founding fathers intended.

The Founding Fathers, were to man, prosperous men. the original draft if the Declaration of Independence said, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Property. (From Adam Smith) Happiness made it more eglatarian. Get the poor folk to join in. This country's history is rich vs. poor.

[Smurf-Herder]

Those unfortunately are not the rule. bill gates did not start giving money till he had a wife and children. I don't believe his generousity is self driven.




and many more have gotten rich sending jobs overseas, like Mitt Romney.



I don't despise because they're rich, I despise becaus ethey act privileged.



Not at all, I hate the corporate slugs who have ruined this country. shall I list, Starting with Kenny Lay. (who I still want dug up to be sure he is dead.)
I think you get my point. Shipping jobs overseas is dangerous to national security.



Yes it does. Many fail the test.



The Founding Fathers, were to man, prosperous men. the original draft if the Declaration of Independence said, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Property. (From Adam Smith) Happiness made it more eglatarian. Get the poor folk to join in. This country's history is rich vs. poor.


This country's history is immigrants coming to America for the opportunity and freedom to prosper and have a better life. Condemning those who succeed, in a blanket statement, goes counter to what we all strive for.

[Kanadesaga]

This country's history is immigrants coming to America for the opportunity and freedom to prosper and have a better life. Condemning those who succeed, in a blanket statement, goes counter to what we all strive for.


smurf, it depends on how they made their money. And this country's history is not just the immigrant one. As stirring and enobling as it is. It is also the history of the exploitation of the poor, of the corruption of our gov't, of a class of privileged few dominating the political and economic landscape of this nation. One history does not negate another. all our valid.