Hawaii verifies Obama's birth certificate as REAL

[LadyMod at scam.com]

One more ugly rumor put to rest.


http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news

HONOLULU -- The state's Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate.

The state has received multiple requests for a copy of Obama's birth certificate. State law does not allow officials to release the birth certificate of a person to someone outside of the family.

There were rumors that Obama was born in Kenya, where his father is from. The Constitution requires that the president be a natural born citizen of the U.S.

There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

:taunt:

[Smurf-Herder]

Is this like the Ohio Secretary of State verifying voting registrations?


In the same way, I put this in the "there's nothing we can do about it anyway, so why bother" category.

[disrupter]

Republicans are inhuman, psychotic slime.

When will that big chunk of America that still votes for them wake up?

I know the Democrats aren't enough better, but they are better.

Divided government between libertarians, Greens & perhaps Democrats might be pretty good.

Republicans should fade into myth, along with the bogeyman.

[Sharon]

Is this like the Ohio Secretary of State verifying voting registrations?


In the same way, I put this in the "there's nothing we can do about it anyway, so why bother" category.
LOL you took my answer!

[Smurf-Herder]

LOL you took my answer!

I was impressed when I saw in another thread how you mentioned the WMDs going to Syria. I tried to bring that up a couple months back. It's good to see another member who keeps her eyes open.

[Sharon]

Republicans are inhuman, psychotic slime.

When will that big chunk of America that still votes for them wake up?

I know the Democrats aren't enough better, but they are better.

Divided government between libertarians, Greens & perhaps Democrats might be pretty good.

Republicans should fade into myth, along with the bogeyman.
You're retarded huh?

obama's white grandmother, ya know the one he's ashamed of? Says he was born in Kenya. His birth certificate that says Barry from Kenya has been destroyed and replaced.

[Hog Trash]

One more ugly rumor put to rest.


http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news



:taunt:You don't think it's a little odd that nobody wants to present it to the authorities for verification and authentication?

Hmmm?....Sounds an awful lot like to me that somebody is hiding something.

[asroc]

You don't think it's a little odd that nobody wants to present it to the authorities for verification and authentication?

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

In addition, Factcheck.org has had an article about having looked at the certificate in person, with photos, for MONTHS now. I've linked to it every time this has come up that I've seen, I can only assume people just want to believe that he's not American at this point, and refuse to take no for an answer.

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/hands.jpg

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/signature.jpg

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/seal.jpg

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/announcementclose-up.jpg

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/

This is truly the dumbest thing you guys can still be clinging to at this point, and it's highly illustrative of why the Republicans completely fucking bombed this election cycle.

[ROdger Right]

Just like those Chinese girls were 16 years old right.

[Smurf-Herder]

In addition, Factcheck.org has had an article about having looked at the certificate in person, with photos, for MONTHS now. I've linked to it every time this has come up that I've seen, I can only assume people just want to believe that he's not American at this point, and refuse to take no for an answer.

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/hands.jpg

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/signature.jpg

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/seal.jpg

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/announcementclose-up.jpg

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/

This is truly the dumbest thing you guys can still be clinging to at this point, and it's highly illustrative of why the Republicans completely fucking bombed this election cycle.


That's only a copy that they certified. It says so right on the signed part of the certification, dated June 6th, 2007. "true copy or abstract of the record" is what it says - not the original.

[asroc]

.....And?

It's never been debatable that it's a copy, conspiracy theorists have been claiming it's a forgery.

It's been obvious all along that it isn't a forgery, or a real (non blog idiot) investigator or the Secret Service would have been onto it by now.

I trust the Secret Service and the FBI's basic ability to vet a presidential candidate over some right wing blogs, don't you?

[Smurf-Herder]

.....And?

It's never been debatable that it's a copy, conspiracy theorists been claiming it's a forgery.

It's been obvious all along that it isn't a forgery, or a real (non blog idiot) investigator or the Secret Service would have been onto it by now.

I trust the Secret Service and the FBI's basic ability to vet a presidential candidate over some right wing blogs, don't you?

It's a computer generated copy, that was certified in 2007.

You can put any info into a computer, then certify it.

The Secret Service and the FBI have nothing to do with it. They rely on the certification done by the state officials of Hawaii.

[Smurf-Herder]

And I want to make this perfectly clear.

I'm not saying I believe Obama wasn't born in Hawaii 100%.

I'm just saying, that between the grandmother saying she was at his birth in Kenya and the way they're going about "proving" he was born in Hawaii, it's not enough to confirm anything, one way or the other.

This isn't my issue. I'm just trying to look at it objectively.

[asroc]

It's a computer generated copy, that was certified in 2007.

You can put any info into a computer, then certify it.

The Secret Service and the FBI have nothing to do with it. They rely on the certification done by the state officials of Hawaii.

The Secret Service or FBI would not check into Obama's origin? Even considering there's a whisper campaign that he's not American? I find that hard to believe.

You can hypothetically (for the purpose of this discussion) get "any info" certified (really though, you can't), but you can also get any certification verified from the source. One would assume this is the first thing any researcher in a vetting process or opposition party would have done.

Objectively, the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics have said it's real and have seen his original certificate. That's pretty much a 100% end of controversy statement.

[Smurf-Herder]

The Secret Service or FBI would not check into Obama's origin? Even considering there's a whisper campaign that he's not American? I find that hard to believe.

You can hypothetically (for the purpose of this discussion) get "any info" certified (really though, you can't), but you can also get any certification verified from the source. One would assume this is the first thing any researcher in a vetting process or opposition party would have done.

Objectively, the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics have said it's real and have seen his original certificate. That's pretty much a 100% end of controversy statement.

If what they show in your photos is what they certified, then they certified a copy.

Are you saying they're calling a copy an original?

Is the concept that everybody is pushing an "Original Copy"?

BTW, has anybody interviewed his grandmother in Kenya, who is reported to have said she was at his birth in Kenya? Because they stopped giving interviews after she supposedly said that.

[Moby]

It's a computer generated copy, that was certified in 2007.

You can put any info into a computer, then certify it.

The Secret Service and the FBI have nothing to do with it. They rely on the certification done by the state officials of Hawaii.
:lmao2: Do you want him to send the original copy to all Americans so that each one can verify it themselves? An electronic copy is about all you're going to get.

Talk about conspiracy theories. :lmao2:

[Hog Trash]

And I want to make this perfectly clear.

I'm not saying I believe Obama wasn't born in Hawaii 100%.

I'm just saying, that between the grandmother saying she was at his birth in Kenya and the way they're going about "proving" he was born in Hawaii, it's not enough to confirm anything, one way or the other.

This isn't my issue. I'm just trying to look at it objectively.I was not aware that the Grandmother claimed she was present at Obama's birth in Kenya.

It doesn't get more damning than that. Are they saying she is delusional, senile or what?

[Sharon]

:lmao2: Do you want him to send the original copy to all Americans so that each one can verify it themselves? An electronic copy is about all you're going to get.

Talk about conspiracy theories. :lmao2:
You don't mind gambling with America do you? Just elect the xtremist and see what happens!!!

[Independent Harry]

You don't mind gambling with America do you? Just elect the xtremist and see what happens!!!

I will thanks...retard...

[Sharon]

I will thanks...retard...
Go ahead fag. All intelligent America will say I told you so!

[Independent Harry]

Go ahead fag. All intelligent America will say I told you so!

I don't understand how you can explain my sexual orientation from these threads...Considering we don't speak about that...what you can ascertain is someone's intelligence level from how they write. And you write quite in line with a retard...

[asroc]

Go ahead fag. All intelligent America will say I told you so!

Classy stuff.

[asroc]

Are they saying she is delusional, senile or what?

Yes, what are they saying about this dumb shit you just heard about?

[Hog Trash]

Yes, what are they saying about this dumb shit you just heard about?They are saying we should be very skeptical about whether Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

Are you saying that yes, Obama is saying that his grandmother is delusional, senile, or something to that affect?

I have doubts wether asroc will answer this.....Anybody can feel free to give an answer, as long as it's accurate.

[asroc]

They are saying we should be very skeptical about whether Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

Are you saying that yes, Obama is saying that his grandmother is delusional, senile, or something to that affect?

I have doubts wether asroc will answer this.....Anybody can feel free to give an answer, as long as it's accurate.

Considering the source of the grandmother's statement is Philip Berg, who is a complete nutcase 9/11 conspiracy theorist and media ham, I'm saying Berg is full of shit.

I don't know the first thing about Obama's paternal grandmother, and neither do you. The idea that by being skeptical I'm somehow calling his grandmother a liar is a strawman argument.

[Sharon]

I don't understand how you can explain my sexual orientation from these threads...Considering we don't speak about that...what you can ascertain is someone's intelligence level from how they write. And you write quite in line with a retard...
I nailed it didn't I come up with your own words. You treat women like crap on this forum I assumed you were a hater of women therefore probably a lover of men. You can qualify as a retard and a mean fag. Now go vote for the bisexual candidate, obama. He hates you too by the way.

[Sharon]

Classy stuff.
I tend to spare class when talking to someone who has none. Thanks ASSroc for your concern.

[Independent Harry]

I nailed it didn't I come up with your own words. You treat women like crap on this forum I assumed you were a hater of women therefore probably a lover of men. You can qualify as a retard and a mean fag. Now go vote for the bisexual candidate, obama. He hates you too by the way.

lol, I only hate women that have no mind, I don't believe in giving consideration to one sex over another. I am quite heterosexual...and again, you prove your ignorance by spouting propaganda...

[asroc]

I tend to spare class when talking to someone who has none. Thanks ASSroc for your concern.

It's good to know I served to defend your freedom to call me classless.

[SeanA]

That's only a copy that they certified. It says so right on the signed part of the certification, dated June 6th, 2007. "true copy or abstract of the record" is what it says - not the original.

Don't ever inconvenience a conspiracy theorist with "facts" or "evidence". Any good conspiracy theorist knows that "facts" and "evidence" are just one more part of the conspriacy. :thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

I was not aware that the Grandmother claimed she was present at Obama's birth in Kenya.

It doesn't get more damning than that. Are they saying she is delusional, senile or what?

I saw it an the World Net Daily site days ago.

But I try not to quote them because they go far right; and I'd get nailed for using them as a source.

All I know is that was what was claimed. Nothing to verify it, from an objective source, so far.

[zoz]

I heard that too. They said that Obama was trying to keep his white grandmother quiet. I guess he need not worry about her telling the truth anymore.