Who saw Barry's Infomercial?

[Smurf-Herder]

I watched the whole thing.

Great production value ............ but not much more than an extended version of one of his 30 second spots.

Except that he mentions Iraq (for a minute) - only in terms of ending the war to use that money to pay for his new programs. Nothing at all about the actual reasons for being there. Hmm, I thought he wanted out of Iraq to send more to Afghanistan. How can he do both?

He's only telling you whatever he thinks will sound good to you. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make practical sense. He's counting on people not knowing the details and wanting someone who will promise them something for nothing.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I watched the whole thing.

Great production value ............ but not much more than an extended version of one of his 30 second spots.

Except that he mentions Iraq (for a minute) - only in terms of ending the war to use that money to pay for his new programs. Nothing at all about the actual reasons for being there. Hmm, I thought he wanted out of Iraq to send more to Afghanistan. How can he do both?

He's only telling you whatever he thinks will sound good to you. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make practical sense. He's counting on people not knowing the details and wanting someone who will promise them something for nothing.

And that would make about 3/4s of the country Smurf. I think it's been apparent for years that Americans don't want the details, they want promises, othewise Bush would have never been elected once, much less twice.


Lady Mod

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[disrupter]

There ARE NO reasons to be in Iraq beyond male vanity.

There ARE good sound financial reasons NOT to be in Iraq.

I saw it.
I was worried it would be 1/2 boring hour of some politician talking,
but it was engaging to see all the actual people the president should be working for.
Obama focused on real people,
Wow, now THAT is refreshing from a DC politician for a change.

Not some toxic, dead, bogus ideology, but real live breathing human beings.

Republicans focus on corporate thieves & all the lies it takes to support them.
Their ideology is crime, while it pretends to be anything else.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

There ARE NO reasons to be in Iraq beyond male vanity.

There ARE good sound financial reasons NOT to be in Iraq.

I saw it.
I was worried it would be 1/2 boring hour of some politician talking,
but it was engaging to see all the actual people the president should be working for.
Obama focused on real people,
Wow, now THAT is refreshing from a DC politician for a change.

Not some toxic, dead, bogus ideology, but real live breathing human beings.

Republicans focus on corporate thieves & all the lies it takes to support them.
Their ideology is crime, while it pretends to be anything else.

I watched it too. I thought it was well done. More than just a bunch of stump promises, it showed real people. REAL Joe plumbers, not the fake one McCain is parading around the country with. LOL.


Lady Mod

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[Smurf-Herder]

But it didn't give us anything new - except the impression, from the live event at the end, that a vote for Obama is a vote for four more years of Bill Clinton ............. which is also just more bullshit.

[disrupter]

People are bullshit, Smurf?

you are fucked up &

UnAmerican.

America is its people,
not the government,
not the military
not even its constitution,
but its people.

Of the people,
by the people,
for the people.

nowhere in that do you see either God, Corporations or the Military.

[Binky]

I watched the whole thing.

Great production value ............ but not much more than an extended version of one of his 30 second spots.

Except that he mentions Iraq (for a minute) - only in terms of ending the war to use that money to pay for his new programs. Nothing at all about the actual reasons for being there. Hmm, I thought he wanted out of Iraq to send more to Afghanistan. How can he do both?

He's only telling you whatever he thinks will sound good to you. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make practical sense. He's counting on people not knowing the details and wanting someone who will promise them something for nothing.


People don't care about the ugly details of running a country. They are more wrapped in their itty bitty lives and the stupid problems they've managed to create for themselves. They are into me, me, me rather than "what can I do to help better the situation?" It's all about getting freebies and vanity.

[Binky]

I didn't watch it as I figured it was more of the same bullpucky rhetoric that I'd already heard. I'm Obamaed and McCained out! I'm tired of listening to them drone on and on.

[Bill]

Didn't watch it. Don't care about it.

Anybody undecided now is too dumb to consider a real person.

[Cat slave]

Not even on my list!

Ive seen more of him than I ever want to see or the multitude of followers
who will be cast aside when they have served their purpose.:banghead:

[disrupter]

Since there is high probability Obama will be the next president i thought it makes sense to become acquainted with him.

Again, i am impressed by how people oriented it was.

Maybe someday we will become a civil society again.

[SeedyROM]

I'd rather have a root canal!! The media coverage sums it up, Obama is the weakest candidate in the history of the USA. Bill Clinton went on air to say Obama is not experienced. I'll trust his words pre-nomination over the post nomination speeches, Hillary too.


Democrats vs. Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Re0Z5xOC6w&feature=related

[Smurf-Herder]

People are bullshit, Smurf?

you are fucked up &

UnAmerican.

America is its people,
not the government,
not the military
not even its constitution,
but its people.

Of the people,
by the people,
for the people.

nowhere in that do you see either God, Corporations or the Military.

And you felt sorry for them, didn't you .............. people used to make you feel bad.

It was professionally produced propaganda - to make you feel Obama is our only hope. But nothing that actually made Obama look more deserving of the office. Just the same old rhetoric, with new video segments; and vague promises of a return to "the Clinton days".

[Sharon]

I watched the whole thing.

Great production value ............ but not much more than an extended version of one of his 30 second spots.

Except that he mentions Iraq (for a minute) - only in terms of ending the war to use that money to pay for his new programs. Nothing at all about the actual reasons for being there. Hmm, I thought he wanted out of Iraq to send more to Afghanistan. How can he do both?

He's only telling you whatever he thinks will sound good to you. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make practical sense. He's counting on people not knowing the details and wanting someone who will promise them something for nothing.
I refused to waste any time watching him lie to America. He could have spent all of that money helping America rather than flaunting himself! Just another reason to despise him.

[Smurf-Herder]

I refused to waste any time watching him lie to America. He could have spent all of that money helping America rather than flaunting himself! Just another reason to despise him.


Yeah, the lying scum.

I just heard a repeat of the audio when he made a big deal of promising to only use public funding, instead of private campaign donations. $750 million dollars, just to be ahead by a couple points.

Wright was right, when he said Obama will do and say anything to win.

McCain stuck to his promise. But Barry just wants to have pure unadulterated power, any way he can.

[Sharon]

Yeah, the lying scum.

I just heard a repeat of the audio when he made a big deal of promising to only use public funding, instead of private campaign donations. $750 million dollars, just to be ahead by a couple points.

Wright was right, when he said Obama will do and say anything to win.

McCain stuck to his promise. But Barry just wants to have pure unadulterated power, any way he can.
You are SO right! He lies in the face of America and some, many are SO stupid they still vote for him. WHY? Hitler drew people to him so did Saddam all of the dishonest, corrupt, liars have magnetic personalities. People need to get strong and be smart, vote for McCain! If you love freedom. Don't listen to the lies, obama will say ANYTHING he thinks people want to hear. He is constantly contradicting himself, everyday! He's not good enough to lead America. He will lead us in the WRONG direction!

[Smurf-Herder]

Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are—beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

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THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."

THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years—and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."

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THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "

THE FACTS: His proposals—the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more—cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged—although not in his commercial—that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

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THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."

THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

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THE SPIN: "We are currently spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, when they have a $79 billion surplus. It seems to me that if we're going to be strong at home as well as strong abroad that we've got to look at bringing that war to a close." These lines in the ad were taken from a debate with McCain.

THE FACTS: Obama was once and very often definitive about getting combat troops out in 16 months (At times during the primaries, he promised to do so within a year). More recently, without backing away explicitly from the 16-month withdrawal pledge, he has talked of the need for flexibility. In the primaries, it would have been a jarring departure for him to have said merely that "we've got to look at" ending the war. As for Iraq's surplus, it's true that Iraq could end up with a surplus that large, but that hasn't happened yet

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D944H6EO0&show_article=1

[bairdi]

Five days until Tsunami Tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can hardly wait.

[Smurf-Herder]

Five days until Tsunami Tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can hardly wait.

Hope you're ready to defend all the BS that goes down once he gets in.

[Cat slave]

Hope you're ready to defend all the BS that goes down once he gets in.


Thats an unintended consequence..well have a glut of material to banter
back and forth while the country goes totally broke and socialist to boot!

If we get to have another election at least we can look forward to Palin in
'12.

But its not over yet, is it? BO knows its not and is running as hard as he
can.

[has123]

I also saw this but wanna know about that who is the infomercial producer of this

[Udo Dirkschneider]

Heh - old thread got spammed, and I thought Smurf Herder may have came back.

Whatever happened to that dude? He was one of the best guys on this forum.