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Moby
10-24-2008, 04:38 PM
This is why I really believe that they're trying to destroy the economy now so they can blame the next President for not be able to fix it.

Bush is leaving the job with the largest amount of debt ever by one President
The largest budget deficit
After the largest loss in wealth in American history
Now interest rates will be the lowest ever

The next President will have almost nothing to work with as everything has been tapped out.

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/081024/102408_fed_outlook.html
CNNMoney.com
Fed: New rate cut likely, with record low within sight
Friday October 24, 9:29 am ET
By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer

The Federal Reserve is widely expected to cut interest rates again next week. But could the Fed soon go where it has never gone before and bring them below 1%?

The Fed lowered its federal funds rate, the benchmark overnight lending rate at which banks lend to one another, by a half-percentage point to 1.5% in an emergency announcement Oct. 8.

Many investors believe the central bank will cut rates by at least another half-percentage point following the end of a two-day meeting on Oct. 29.

In fact, the fed funds futures on the Chicago Board of Trade are now pricing in a 26% chance that the Fed will cut rates by three-quarters of a percentage point to 0.75% by that meeting.

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has said in recent weeks that economic weakness is likely to continue into next year, despite rate cuts and other recent moves taken by the Fed and Treasury Department to try and fix the credit crisis.

On Monday, Bernanke pushed Congress to consider a new stimulus plan to spur the economy.

"Everyone at the Fed has pretty much told you they're going to cut," said Rich Yamarone, director of economic research at Argus Research. "They're in a kitchen sink mode right now. Rate cuts, fiscal stimulus, bailouts - they're throwing everything they can at this right now."

Still, would the Fed really consider lowering interest rates below 1%? The last time rates were at 1% was between June 2003 and June 2004.

Rate cuts have been a key tool the central bank has used in the past to boost a weak economy. A variety of lending rates, including credit cards and home equity lines, as well as the prime rate used to set many business loan rates, are pegged to the fed funds rate.

So lower rates usually lead to cheaper credit, thus spurring businesses and consumers to spend money more freely.

But in the current credit crisis, with banks afraid to make loans due to worries about their firms' own need for cash in the near term, already relatively low short-term rates have done little to get credit flowing. (The Fed cut rates seven times between September 2007 and April before holding them at 2% for several months.)

Some economists argue that another rate cut may be the least important step the Fed can take in its effort to solve the crisis.

"It's window dressing, only a psychological weapon," said Sung Won Sohn, economics professor at Cal State University Channel Islands. "Right now, the problem isn't the cost of the Fed's money, it's that the existing money supply is not circulating. The pipelines are clogged."

Even Fed Vice Chairman Donald Kohn seemed to acknowledge that rate cuts aren't as important as they once were. In an Oct. 15 speech, Kohn said the coordinated global cut the previous week had already been "overwhelmed ...by the further erosion in confidence."

Still, many economists say that fear and uncertainty in the markets is so great right now that the Fed can't risk leaving rates unchanged. And they say anything that can be done to spur lending is a positive.

"It's not irrelevant, even if it's not as important as usual," said David Wyss, chief economist with Standard & Poor's.

Wyss said that if the U.S. credit and financial markets remain in crisis, a cut below 1% could come later this year or early next year.

To be sure, some have pointed to rates being at 1% for as long as they were as a factor in the housing bubble earlier this decade. It was the plunge from those inflated home values that sparked the credit crisis now dogging markets.

Low rates can also feed inflation. But that might be a sacrifice the Fed has to make.

"Inflating our way out of this mess is the Fed's only option at this point," said Peter Boockvar, market analyst of Miller Tabak, in a note Friday morning.

With the global economy slowing down, there are few economists talking about the threat of inflation. And the continued decline in home prices has negated most fears of low rates leading to another housing bubble.

So even a cut to nearly 0%, a rate where the Bank of Japan left rates for much of the 1990's, is not out of the question, given the unprecedented nature of credit problems.

"There's a hesitation to do it because it looks like desperation. But they're getting desperate," said Wyss.

Dale escondido
10-24-2008, 05:04 PM
Always the same and always wrong.
Nothing changes but the spin, depending on the market action for the day.
We will see our first trillionaires come out of this mess, as we are allowing the
environment to make this possible.(maybe a slight exageration to make a point).
When the power that be run out of paper (crane paper of course) and stop printing money they will just have to allow the market to fix itself.
Mexico announced a 700-800 billion dollar bailout yesterday and the peso fell 35%.
As long as world currencies keep falling, the dollar looks bright.

disrupter
10-25-2008, 08:58 AM
I am not even sure that is their intent,

but i am worried that will be the result.

If you try to avoid all pain you end up living in stagflation.

It would be really refreshing to see the elite criminals suffer some of the pain for a change.

But alas, they get the unending hedonistic stream of Corporate Welfare.
while the serfs just toil for their benefit.

disrupter
10-25-2008, 09:03 AM
The historical reflex is that the dollar is sound,

but our recent reckless history does NOT back up that notion.

notably the Yen is about the most sound currency around.
it is borderline deflationary.
& with commodity fluctuations, a sound currency sounds almost like some mystic magic.

Something with a constancy of value?

like i said it must be very dark magic indeed.

Be very careful of the Japanese,
they can actually balance a budget.

what ARE they thinking?

Dale escondido
10-25-2008, 09:49 AM
I am not even sure that is their intent,

but i am worried that will be the result.

If you try to avoid all pain you end up living in stagflation.

It would be really refreshing to see the elite criminals suffer some of the pain for a change.

But alas, they get the unending hedonistic stream of Corporate Welfare.
while the serfs just toil for their benefit.

That isnt going to work this time. The whole world is trying to prop up the old house of cards.
6 million forclosures is crushing the world wconomy?
Get real here, that just exposed the fact our economys were only perception.
It only works if we believe, no real substance there just paper.

disrupter
10-25-2008, 10:13 AM
it is all based on magic or lies, depending on one's perspective.

Hedonism is NOT capitalism.

we have been sold a bill of goods.

neocons are psychotic, violent, criminal hedonists,
who wouldn't recognize capitalism if it chomped down on their asses,
& it looks like it has.

sadly it is chomping down on EVERYONE's asses.

ouch, ouch, ouch

Cat slave
10-25-2008, 11:35 AM
Oh for joy, like its worked before? Of course we only have to wait until the
Messiah gets in and we will enter the new world of Utopia. Soylent Green, and
the whole NWO. Get your gray uniforms ready!

disrupter
10-26-2008, 07:47 AM
This just demonstrates what an unmitigated failure the wild, insane squandering of 700 billion dollars has been.

Instead of using a known coherent tactic, such as lowering interest rates,

the congress bought into Bush-Paulson-Bernanke voodoo magic & superstition.

for the record
what the bailout IS being wasted on?

shareholder dividends,
salary raises,
executive bonuses,
shopping sprees to buy other banks,

what is the bailout NOT being used for?
to lubricate retail credit markets, . . . . . . . . . . which is what it was supposed to do.

IN FACT the banks are tightening credit standards.

EXACTLY the recipe to create more economic downturn & loss of jobs for REAL americans.

We don't have a government,
we just have a giant leech upon our backs.
kill it wherever you catch sight of it & its minions.

This is just such raw, naked treachery against american taxpayers,

Unbelievable.

THIS IS Shock & Awe.

this is Obscene.

Dale escondido
10-26-2008, 08:43 AM
70% of us said we didnt want this yet we were told we had to have it.
We are not being governed we are being used.
700 billion is only a start ,worldwide were at almost 4 trillion and counting and the presses are rolling.
The welfare for corruption has even amazed them. They will push for more until we say no.
Then they will laugh and wait for the market to shake the bad times.
We have no say in this, go play and shut up.

disrupter
10-26-2008, 12:31 PM
Well i voted 3rd party for anyone who voted for this obscenity.

I encourage others to throw off the yoke of Dem-Repig Corporate enslavers.

Freedom for the people!

Moby
10-26-2008, 12:33 PM
Oh for joy, like its worked before? Of course we only have to wait until the
Messiah gets in and we will enter the new world of Utopia. Soylent Green, and
the whole NWO. Get your gray uniforms ready!
Cat, aren't you paying attention? The people that you're supporting have already destroyed the economy. It's the worst economic crisis in American history and Obama wasn't President when it occurred.

disrupter
10-26-2008, 12:42 PM
there is a REASON why she is enslaved to a cat.

high IQ would not be one of them.