Important Question about 9/11

[Abnormalia]

This is a very important question:

If a new investigation into 9/11 was called, and it was headed by the world's most talented and unbiased scientists and researchers of our day, and it concluded that the official story is the TRUE story, would you accept it?

[stefan segal]

If it conformed with the laws of physics and science on this planet...I would certainly agree with it, as it would prove cheney and his gang of thugs engineered it...what else could and honest investigation report?

Especially tower #7...the mysterious events that the 9/11 commission failed to notice or report testimony on...I guess for them, it's out of sight out of mind. a small oversight...but then maybe it was a butch appointed oversight committee...and their job entails forgetting to mention things.

Stefan

Note: These scientist must be established in those fields being reported upon...and not some geek testing hemoroid cream on white rat's asses.

[Abnormalia]

If it conformed with the laws of physics and science on this planet...I would certainly agree with it, as it would prove cheney and his gang of thugs engineered it...what else could and honest investigation report?

Especially tower #7...the mysterious events that the 9/11 commission failed to notice or report testimony on...I guess for them, it's out of sight out of mind. a small oversight...but then maybe it was a butch appointed oversight committee...and their job entails forgetting to mention things.

Stefan

Note: These scientist must be established in those fields being reported upon...and not some geek testing hemoroid cream on white rat's asses.


No, you see, right there in your second sentence you wrote that the investigation would only be believable if it matched your already set beliefs- aka you've already assumed that the investigation will prove you correct.

If there isn't another good definition of close-mindedness I don't know what it could be. So, what haven't you been black bagged yet stefan? Why would such a murderous government allow you to continue living, if it seemingly slaughtered 3000 of its own citizens?

If such a beautifully put together plot actually exists, then why couldn't such a technologically adept government simply plant WMD in Iraq so they didn't look like asses? Why is this?

Where are the whistleblowers?

[kres24GT]

Are you seriously a 9/11 conspiracy nut Stefan?

I am beginning to seriously reconsider my assessment that you were a fairly intelligent individual. Supporting Dems over Reps could at least be thought to be self delusion. 9/11 conspiracy theories are just down right retarded to quote South Park.

[stefan segal]

Stick to the merits Kres...not the messenger.

Stefan

[stefan segal]

A second thought...if so many people disbelieve the administration's story...and thousands of americans were murdered...isn't the magnetude of this event and it's horrific implications worthy of proving for sure who actucally did the job? A vague niggling curiosity pehaps?

Doesn't the fact the government is not leading the investigation into 9/11, but instead obstructing that investigation...strike you as something smelly at the top?

The question is why are you satisfied to give the perpetrators a free pass...lets forget and play nice.

You're right...I'm not wired like you.

Stefan

[Abnormalia]

A second thought...if so many people disbelieve the administration's story First of all, the minority lies with the Conspiracy Theorists...and thousands of americans were murdered...isn't the magnetude of this event and it's horrific implications worthy of proving for sure who actucally did the job? Horrible logic based on your previously horrible assumption A vague niggling curiosity pehaps? Take it to court then, I'm sure a judge will listen to your story and promptly arrest Cheney, right? Oh wait! anyone who laughs at you is working for the government <slaps forehead>

Doesn't the fact the government is not leading the investigation into 9/11, but instead obstructing that investigation <buzzer> 9/11 is and was one of the most investigated tragedies of our time, the delusion that the government is obstructing anything is in your head you nut....strike you as something smelly at the top?

The question is why are you satisfied to give the perpetrators a free pass...lets forget and play nice.

You're right...I'm not wired like you. Thank the stars.

Stefan

I swear, I'm half concerned that if you ever do realize that your work the last 6 years is a sham, your head will explode, yet I'm even more concerned that you're dragging others into your delusion.

[stefan segal]

You swear lightly and your protestations of "concern" for others is of even thinner stuff...get real and stop posturing...I've been trying to engage you in a factual debate for what seems years now, and you just jaw about suppositions...your most credulous being that the demolition was too sophisticated for this prez and his gang or murders.

This is the outsourcing king..the man who is selling america out from under our feet...he can't produce money to outsource...he can't tell his black ops guys...that you've been waiting for pperation NOrthwoods for over twenty years...now here's you chance...,but don't let on to subnormal.

Give me a break...you are a sham person with a sham mentality who postures for group acceptance...that's your whole act...
wait..I think I feel "concern" for you...no..it was just gas.

Stefan

[exarmyranger]

Yo Ab,My apologies for the sarcastic title.The devil must have made me do it. I'm asuming your Question,is aimed at Stefan/Betty Blow,and other 911 c.t's. Personaly out of the dozen(s)of professional's,and their theoretical proof of a Government sanctioned attack,and cover-up,of the WTC disaster.1 or 2 stand-out.#1. Is (This I'd been aware of prior to 2001) Pres. Bush (the heartless fucking bastard & my boss for a period of time!)as Director...under the Ford admin.Wanted controll of every barrel of crude...refinement,price,destination,and max.quanitie's held in researve(by other nations/not us.) Daddy did what he could to pave the way for Georgie Boy...Even though Jr. by the time he was 35 had managed to bankrupt several multi-million$.profit making(untill Jr.became the C.E.O.)oil busn.companys,including,but not limited to Tanker lines,refineries,storage facilities,refined oil by-product proccesing plant(s),all suffered collapse,and all were given to Jr. (by Big Daddy) to ruin, errr, run.The presidency gave him the power,and the dollar to further his Globle Plan,without having to ask Dad,for another advance on his allowence.But "how can I get the people to approve?"was the only real question.Some brown nosed jerk-off,seizes the oppertunity to remind him of the Nixon/Ford anti terrorist think tank,task force,bullshit experts,Get some of your boys to create a real hijacking plan to test our anti terror method...In 82,or 83,spooks with box cutters attempted to/and successfully boarded a commercial jet...I did not know the excerize had become public knowledge untill today...cya ex pai 0 toknH

[Abnormalia]

You swear lightly and your protestations of "concern" for others is of even thinner stuff...get real and stop posturing...I've been trying to engage you in a factual debate for what seems years now, and you just jaw about suppositions...your most credulous being that the demolition was too sophisticated for this prez and his gang or murders.

This is the outsourcing king..the man who is selling america out from under our feet...he can't produce money to outsource...he can't tell his black ops guys...that you've been waiting for pperation NOrthwoods for over twenty years...now here's you chance...,but don't let on to subnormal.

Give me a break...you are a sham person with a sham mentality who postures for group acceptance...that's your whole act...
wait..I think I feel "concern" for you...no..it was just gas.

Stefan


You incredibly stupid fucking man. I do NOT support Bush, honestly, are you basking in the 10th level of the Hell of Senility?

You believe so strongly about this conspiracy? Do something about it. Your sense of duty for this country must stop at cutting and pasting other's thoughts on an internet forum- do more! File a lawsuit, picket Congress! You're not dead yet, why should you be afraid then of dying by the hand of our government? Do something wonderful for your "Truth Movement", write somebody a letter, attempt to get on TV shows. I suppose when those people laugh at you, they're working for the government too?

But when somebody makes a good point, you have this strong sense that no matter what, they must be wrong. You yourself have said that not even a new investigation into 9/11 will be accepted by you unless it concludes what you already believe. You're a huge fucking tool.

[stefan segal]

I don't believe in any conspiracy...the conspirers are in the west wing...the ones you believe.

You posted the photo from that site I linked...I thenk you for that, as I am so stupid I still can't figure how to transfer a photo to this site.

One photo is worth a thousand words sometimes...and the demolition is normally done bottm up, but with the plane hitting the upper levels, there was only three large primery blasts on the bottom floor...the largest measured on two separate siesmagraphs in two locations...before the plane hit...then it went down every thirty feet or so in a series going down...but what is so telling about that particular photo is the formation of that shaped blast cloud...which would form high or low using the same blasts of like materials.

So rant on...keep the phos comming..I'll feed them to you.
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Stefan

[Abnormalia]

I don't believe in any conspiracy...the conspirers are in the west wing...the ones you believe.

You posted the photo from that site I linked...I thenk you for that, as I am so stupid I still can't figure how to transfer a photo to this site.

One photo is worth a thousand words sometimes...and the demolition is normally done bottm up, but with the plane hitting the upper levels, there was only three large primery blasts on the bottom floor...the largest measured on two separate siesmagraphs in two locations...before the plane hit...then it went down every thirty feet or so in a series going down...but what is so telling about that particular photo is the formation of that shaped blast cloud...which would form high or low using the same blasts of like materials.

So rant on...keep the phos comming..I'll feed them to you.
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Stefan


Evidence of a blast exploding before the planes hit? Evidence that such a large explosion killed people in the basement? None.

And, I want to get your thoughts loud and clear here: You're saying that if the twin towers 'had' collapsed, they wouldn't have made a dust cloud like they did? You're saying that because they made a dust cloud, or a debris cloud, that it was caused by a bomb/bombs?

You really are a tool.

[exarmyranger]

Well Ab. Maybe Stefan is alot of things.But he sure is'nt a quitter(you either)That's a fact,nobody can refute,in ernest...cya,ex

[Jesse Hemingway]

This is a very important question:

If a new investigation into 9/11 was called, and it was headed by the world's most talented and unbiased scientists and researchers of our day, and it concluded that the official story is the TRUE story, would you accept it?
If the families of the people that had died and the people that were injured on 9/11 could pick the individuals conducting the investigation and everyone that testified were required to be sworn under oath. Then yes. The governments bull shit version of the 9/11 commission is an insult to the American taxpayer.
It really does not matter though you have the president and vice president that exposed an undercover CIA agent during an extremely critical time in the United States. If that treasonous act does not slap you in the face and expose bush and cheney as the frauds they truly are then 9/11 is really meaningless.

[Abnormalia]

So, your reasoning is that because The President and Vice President exposed a CIA agent, they committed 9/11? I'm not getting you there, can you help me?

[stefan segal]

There was a siesmic peak minutes before impact...as testified to by a janitor who reported a terriffic blast under his feet.

There were firemen and I believe cops and survivors who testified that when they ran through the lobby all the windowes were blown out...curious how a kerosene fire on the 80th floor could have that effect in the lobby.

As far as the dust cloud, you haven't been reading very closely..or your reading comprehension it wrse than spotty...that sort of cloud is typical of pulverized concrete produced by a demolition blast...the other occurance is that of a volcano.

But you don't relate to physical facts...so I'll ask you to visulize the large expanding cloud at the top of the tower...the one throwing steel beams 500 feet...and then ask you about your question...of all the crushing weight of a 130 floor tower collapsing....and that horrific force crusing concrete into your rendition of a dust cloud.

How many floors collapsed to form the innitial cloud?

How far did the fall?

So you in your wildest dreams can you conjure up an explaination of

[exarmyranger]

What matters to me is of no value...lying,misleading,super rich,scumbags,are/were a constant irritation to myself and just about any person who managed to retain a small sence of concious,and still perform their dutie's...as required,while in (their) service.The simple truth is not an option...power brokers,and the people who have their ears tuned to whatever bullshit they are playing,do not look down on the civillian population...They look thru,around,or past us...AHH.YAWN,SOMEBODY,please play tap's.I'll get the light's. ex

[stefan segal]

Subnormal asks: And, I want to get your thoughts loud and clear here: You're saying that if the twin towers 'had' collapsed, they wouldn't have made a dust cloud like they did? You're saying that because they made a dust cloud, or a debris cloud, that it was caused by a bomb/bombs?"

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Loud and clear...I'm saying that the size, shape and density, of the innitial cloud at the level of impact, could not have been produced by the crushing weight that fell ten feet..or twenty feet...or thirty-two feet.

It couldn't throw support beams 500 feet.

It didn't have the energy pulverize concrete.

It didn't have the energy to fprm a roiling cloud of pulverized concrete that it didn't have the energy to pulverize.

If you'd like to seriously enter this as a debate...then discover where the source of the enregy to produce the effect we all witnessed up at the level of impact...before it gathered momentum.


Stefan

[Jesse Hemingway]

So, your reasoning is that because The President and Vice President exposed a CIA agent, they committed 9/11? I'm not getting you there, can you help me?
Don't ask questions if you can't figure out the answer NO not even close; it does not matter is Al-Cai-da still the bogey man if not who is bush saying it is this week.