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asroc
10-06-2008, 09:06 PM
Isn't it a bit late to be asking who Barack Obama is when people have basically decided they like him more than they like you?

Smurf-Herder
10-06-2008, 11:52 PM
Isn't it a bit late to be asking who Barack Obama is when people have basically decided they like him more than they like you?

There's always hope that some can break the spell they're under.

Moby
10-07-2008, 01:12 AM
There's always hope that some can break the spell they're under.
You might. Hog is way beyond hope.

Smurf-Herder
10-07-2008, 06:48 PM
You might. Hog is way beyond hope.

I believe many wil have an epiphany, once it's too late.

Time is growing short - and so is my patience with fools.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

HT and Frank are more enthusiastic than myself. That's the only difference.

I find myself more and more thinking on grander scales, feeling the impending hand of fate; the more I see through this board how deserving the brainwashed masses are.

(a mind is a terrible thing to waste)

Frankg
10-07-2008, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by asrocIsn't it a bit late to be asking who Barack Obama is when people have basically decided they like him more than they like you?

Barack Hussein Obama has been the most secretive candidate to ever run for president. He still hasn't released his birth certificate and never directly answers any questions regarding the long line of sleazeballs he's been accociated with .
Who Are You? 'Cause I Really Wanna Know (http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/10/07/who-are-you-cause-i-really-wanna-know.php)
Posted by Jay Tea (http://wizbangblog.com/author/Jay%20Tea)
Published: October 7, 2008 - 6:30 AM

Yesterday, John McCain asked a very simple -- but very important question: Who is Barack Hussein Obama?

Everyone has an answer -- he's the Democratic nominee for president. He is currently in his fourth year of his first US Senate term. Before that, he was an Illinois State Senator, a lawyer, community organizer, president of the Harvard Law Review, child of a Kenyan father and an American mother, born in Hawaii, raised for a while in Indonesia.

But just try to look beyond the official biography, and you end up with far more questions than answers.

This is brought into even starker contrast when you compare what we know about Barack Hussein Obama with what we know about John McCain.

For example, we know that John McCain graduated almost at the bottom of his class at Annapolis.

We have no idea how Barack Hussein Obama did, academically, either as an undergraduate or in law school.

We know that McCain showed reporters over 1800 pages of his medical records.

Barack Hussein Obama released a single page from his doctor that said "yup, he's fine."

We know that McCain, after his release as a prisoner of war, went on to command a training squadron before retiring from the Navy and running for Congress.

We don't know just what Barack Hussein Obama did in his legal career.

As remarkable as Barack Hussein Obama's official biography is (http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php), it's the items that are omitted that are really enlightening. One of the biggest weaknesses people cite in Barack Hussein Obama is his lack of executive experience, but that's not entirely accurate.

Barack Hussein Obama served on the boards of two very large organizations.

He spent seven years with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (the first four in charge) and eight years as a director of the Joyce Foundation. But he doesn't want to talk about those 15 years of executive experience.

Could it be because he was an abject failure at both?

I dunno. Barack Hussein Obama doesn't want to talk about it. But the circumstantial evidence is... interesting.

Barack Hussein Obama served as a director for the Joyce Foundation from 1994 to 2002. During that time, the Foundation put a LOT of resources into redefining the 2nd Amendment as not a collective right, and trying to ban handguns entirely.

A few of the tactics the group tried?

The subsidized a book entitled "Every Handgun Is Aimed At You: The Case For Banning Handguns."

More importantly, they struck upon a novel legal strategy for undermining legal support for the 2nd Amendment.

They, in essence, "bought" articles in law reviews attacking the theory of the 2nd Amendment being an individual right. (http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-attempt-to-destroy-the-second-amendment/)

These articles gave judges inclined to rule against the 2nd Amendment the legal cover they needed.

This ultimately failed, as just this last term the Supreme Court ruled, in the Heller case, that the 2nd Amendment is, indeed, an individual right.

So, what does this have to do with Barack Hussein Obama? I dunno.

Barack Hussein Obama doesn't talk about it. But the circumstantial evidence is compelling. Barack Hussein Obama has a long record of pushing for gun control. He sponsored some of the most restrictive gun-control laws in Illinois.

He once filled out a questionnaire saying he supported an outright ban on handguns. Or maybe he didn't -- a "misinformed" aide filled out the form. Or, at least, that question, as Baracl Hussein Obama filled out other parts of it. Or something.

Also, the plan involved "sponsoring" Law Reviews at various law schools to publish articles in favor of gun control. Barack Hussein Obama had been the editor of the Harvard Law Review.

Again, all circumstantial. But interesting.

And then there's the Chicago Annenberg Foundation. This program was set up to improve Chicago's public schools. Bill Ayers, unrepentant former terrorist ("guilty as hell, free as a bird," in his own words), worked for years to start this program.

And who was the founding head of the Challenge? Barack Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama, who describes Ayers as "some guy in my neighborhood" who he met at a few meetings. Barack Hussein Obama, a lawyer and former failed community organizer (he cited his ineffectiveness as an organizer as part of his reason for going to law school), with no real track record of doing much of anything, was put in charge of a foundation that started off with a bankroll of $50 million and ultimately spent over three times that much.

There are many unfavorable things one can call Bill Ayers.

Despicable. Communist. (Sorry, "small-c communist" is the term he prefers.) Radical. Terrorist. Anti-American.

But I don't think you can fairly call him "overly trusting" or "naive" or "gullible." And those are the qualities one would ascribe to someone who puts a complete stranger (or even a very casual acquaintance) in charge of a project Ayers put that much effort into creating.

Others have noted that, despite the official statements, there is a very good chance Ayers and Barack Hussein Obama crossed paths long before 1995. In 1988, both men were part of the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools, or ABCs (http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/05/when-did-barack-obama-meet-bill-ayers.html). Could Ayers have met the young Barack Hussein Obama through that connection, found something he liked about the guy, and remembered him a few years later, when he was again working at "improving" Chicago's schools?
According to the official story, absolutely not. The two men were barely acquainted when Ayers put Barack Hussein Obama in charge of the CAC. Unofficially, the theory is a hell of a lot more plausible.

So, now that Barack Hussein Obama is heading up the CAC, with a nine-figure budget to improve Chicago's schools, what does he do?

Well, he oversees out the doling of money not to the schools themselves, but to "outside partners" who, in turn, work with the schools. Outside partners like Ayers' "Peace School," which pushes an internationalist, pro-UN world view on young students. Outside partners like Ayers' old crony, Maoist Mike Klonsky, who took $175,000 for his "Small Schools Project."

Outside partners like the Trinity United Church of Christ, Barack Hussein Obama's church for 20 years and headed by race-baiter and black separatist Jeremiah Wright.

Barack Hussein Obama ran the board for four years, then stepped down to a board member for three years longer, until the Foundation shut down in 2002. In the end, they spent over $150 million on improving Chicago's schools.

And the result?

A study showed virtually no difference between the schools the Challenge "helped" and those they did not. In short, Barack Hussein Obama spent seven years and $150 million and achieved exactly nothing.

Except, of course, lining the pockets of his and Ayers' friends. With money from charities and the people of Chicago.

These are the kinds of things that Barack Hussein Obama doesn't want talked about.

These are the kinds of things that shows what Barack Hussein Obama has done when he is placed in an executive position.

These are the kinds of things that sensible people ought to keep in mind when they are deciding who they want to have as their Chief Executive of our nation.

And these are the kinds of things that the mainstream media ought to be telling us.

Why aren't they?
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asroc
10-07-2008, 11:40 PM
McCain showed reporters his medical records, as in he allowed them in a room with no cameras for twenty minutes to take notes on them.

McCain has not made his medical records public. The guy has had skin cancer multiple times and is really at risk.

He's 72 years old. His medical records being public is the difference between knowing and not knowing the likelihood of McCain's chances of even surviving his first term. I know President Palin sounds good to you, but it does not to most of the country.

Using italics, bold, red and blue colors only makes your pasting look more shrill and desperate.

Here are articles about Obama in college, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. My understanding is that you will not read them:

http://www.oxy.edu/x2526.xml

http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05/cover.php

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/08/06/obama_shows_hints_of_his_year_in_global_finance/?page=1

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703300121mar30,1,6651421,full.story

http://search.boston.com/local/Search.do?s.sm.query=&s.author=Linda+Matchan&s.tab=globe&s.si%28simplesearchinput%29.sortBy=-articleprintpublicationdate&docType=&date=&s.startDate=1990-02-15&s.endDate=1990-02-15

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/?page=full

Smurf-Herder
10-08-2008, 01:31 AM
McCain showed reporters his medical records, as in he allowed them in a room with no cameras for twenty minutes to take notes on them.

McCain has not made his medical records public. The guy has had skin cancer multiple times and is really at risk.

He's 72 years old. His medical records being public is the difference between knowing and not knowing the likelihood of McCain's chances of even surviving his first term. I know President Palin sounds good to you, but it does not to most of the country.

Using italics, bold, red and blue colors only makes your pasting look more shrill and desperate.

Here are articles about Obama in college, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. My understanding is that you will not read them:

http://www.oxy.edu/x2526.xml

http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05/cover.php

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/08/06/obama_shows_hints_of_his_year_in_global_finance/?page=1

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703300121mar30,1,6651421,full.story

http://search.boston.com/local/Search.do?s.sm.query=&s.author=Linda+Matchan&s.tab=globe&s.si%28simplesearchinput%29.sortBy=-articleprintpublicationdate&docType=&date=&s.startDate=1990-02-15&s.endDate=1990-02-15

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/?page=full


Skin cancer usually isn't fatal.

Although the two brain anyurisms that Biden had can be.

I hear the other side is not being too open about medical and other officail records; but nobody cares.

asroc
10-08-2008, 11:56 AM
Skin cancer usually isn't fatal.

Although the two brain anyurisms that Biden had can be.

I hear the other side is not being too open about medical and other officail records; but nobody cares.

EARLY STAGE skin cancer usually isn't fatal, but McCain has been caught with a stage II melanoma at least once.

McCain’s skin cancers were the deadliest kind

The presumptive GOP nominee has had at least four melanomas, all independent and all caught early. He has had no recurrences, physicians who treated him said.

By Thomas H. Maugh II
May 24, 2008 in print edition A-21

Melanomas like those suffered by Sen. John McCain are more lethal than other types of skin cancers because the pigment-producing melanocytes that produce them are actually not skin cells at all.

Though the basal cells and squamous cells that are responsible for the most common types of skin cancer are integral parts of the skin from the beginning, melanocytes are visitors – nerve cells that are produced in the spinal column during infancy before migrating to the skin.

They are not bound to the skin in the same way that other skin cells are, so when they turn cancerous, they find it very easy to invade a blood vessel or lymph channel and travel to other parts of the body, said Dr. David Peng, director of the Pigmented Lesion Clinic at USC’s Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center.

And it is not the primary tumor that kills a patient, but the metastasis, said Dr. Glen Justice, director of Orange Coast Memorial Hospital Cancer Center in Fountain Valley. The key to curing melanomas is to catch and excise them before they have spread, he said.

If the tumors are caught early, surgery cures at least two-thirds of patients, experts said. After the tumor has metastasized, chemotherapy and radiation may be attempted, but they are generally palliative, not a cure, Justice said.

Each year, about 50,000 malignant melanomas are diagnosed in the United States, and they account for about three-quarters of all skin cancer deaths. The vast majority of deaths occur in the 20% of patients whose tumors have already metastasized at the time of diagnosis.

McCain has had at least four melanomas. The most common risk factors include fair skin, fair eyes, light hair, excessive sunburns and excessive exposure to sunlight – all of which he has. Genetics also plays a major role, but McCain has no family history of the disease that would make him more susceptible.

About 14% to 18% of melanoma patients have a second, unrelated tumor later, Justice said. “If [McCain] has had four, he’ll probably have a fifth,” he said. “But there is a superb chance it will be curable” because it will most likely be caught early.

The physicians from the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale who cared for McCain emphasized that each of his four melanomas were independent tumors and not recurrences.

Melanocytes sit in the junction between the dermis, the outer layer of the skin, and the epidermis, the middle layer. In a primary melanoma, pathologists can see the tumor growing out from the junction and be confident that it is not a recurrence.

All four of the melanomas McCain suffered displayed this characteristic, including the large tumor that was removed from his temple in August 2000.

But buried in the nearly 1,200 pages of medical records released Friday was the fact that there were apparently two melanomas observed at the time, the large one that was the focus of the surgery and a smaller one at the same site that had very little involvement with the dermis.

“It might have come from underneath, and might have been a micro-metastatic lesion, indicating it was a recurrence from a previous tumor,” Peng said. But because McCain has had no recurrence in the eight years since the surgery, Peng added, “he is doing pretty well.”

thomas.maugh@latimes.com

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/24/science/sci-melanoma24

In an effort to dispel health concerns, this spring McCain's campaign allowed select reporters, including CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a look at more than 1,100 pages of medical records. In a teleconference with reporters, Dr. John Eckstein, McCain's personal physician, declared him to be in excellent health. "I and my colleagues can find no medical reasons or problems that would preclude Sen. McCain from fulfilling all the duties and obligations of the president of the United States."

Since 1993, McCain has had four skin cancers removed. McCain's biggest health scare came in December 2000, when he was found to have a Stage 2 melanoma on his left cheek. The cancer was about as wide as a dime and a little thicker than a nickel. By today's standards, his surgeons took an extremely aggressive approach, removing more than 30 lymph nodes even though a test showed the cancer had not spread. McCain's surgeon, Dr. Michael Hinni, said they simply wanted to err on the side of caution.
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McCain's records might be an open book compared to Obama's, but his campaign is a long way from full disclosure. They gave reporters three hours to look through the massive stack of paperwork, and didn't allow pictures or photocopies.

Dr. Wendy Epstein is a dermatologist who signed a petition calling on McCain to release all his records to the public. "Anybody running for the president gives up their right for personal privacy. Their health is my concern." Epstein, who said she's a registered Democrat married to a Republican, said it's not clear whether McCain's most severe melanoma was related to the others, a so-called metastasis. "We need to know: Did this melanoma spread, or didn't it? And that can only be answered by an independent group of dermatopathologists, looking at slides."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/10/08/ftl.mccain.health

He's had four bouts with melanoma, one called for serious invasive tumor removal. And that's just what we know.

disrupter
10-09-2008, 07:16 AM
Don't blame McCain,

he just has alzheimer's.

poor guy can't even remember from day to day.