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Hog Trash

09-29-2008, 09:31 PM

Governor Sarah Palin is exactly what this country needs to get out from under the elitist connected snobs and their elitist

connected snob news media that have been running America in the ground and snub their noses at the average American people.

How they feel about Sarah Palin is exactly how they feel about you and me and the rest of middle America. They look at us as ignorant rednecks.

Governor Palin is no less qualified or experienced for the job of Prez or VP than Obama and probably more experienced if anything.

Yet the elitist news media is doing everything possible to steer us away from her and to Obama. Ask yourself why!?

These big shot politicians, journalists and media moguls attend big Washington parties in their tuxedos and evening gowns and rub elbows.

What they really mean but can't say is that she is not one of them and and she is a threat to their power. She's one of us.

Lets not let them tell us she's not smart enough. The fact that they hate and fear her should tell us she is perfect.

Who really believes Couric is a journalist?...Bullshit!...The Katie Couric interview should have been proof to everybody watching.

Really, who did you relate to the most, Katie Couric or Sarah Palin?...Think?...Really?.....Palin may be our last hope folks.

Was the Saturday Nite Live Show just a comedy or a well thought out hatchet job???

Read the E-mail that SNL received regarding the skit.

Are the producers aware that there are idiots who are influenced by this crap? You betcha!
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/couric-palin-open/704042/

Watch this CBS News, short biography on Sarah Palin...
http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2008/09/03/in_depth_politics/timeline4410664.shtml

Now watch this CBS News biography of Obama
http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2007/10/30/in_depth_politics/photoessay3431151.shtml

Do you see any "difference" in these two productions???

They producers are so sure of themselves they don't even bother with subliminal messaging.

How often do you see your favorite movie stars and TV personalities stumping for Obama and bashing Palin and McCain???

When you see Obama on the cover of a magazine, is the headline positive or negative???

When you see Palin on the cover of a magazine, is the headline positive or negative???

This is happening in some form, almost everywhere......Why is this going on???...We are being programed and it works.

Why is it so important to the Media Elites, that they work so hard to steer us in the direction of Obama and away from Palin???

Doesn't it piss you off that the people who are suppose to inform you and entertain you, are instead manipulating you???

From now on every time you hear some elite snob news reporter or celebrity say something negative about Governor Palin,

tell yourself "One more reason to vote for Sarah Palin" Don't allow yourself to be programmed!

bairdi

09-29-2008, 10:09 PM

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Cat slave

09-29-2008, 11:25 PM

asroc

09-29-2008, 11:59 PM

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 12:51 AM

I'm in Indiana, and we Hoosiers tend to respond to the charge of being "programed" colorfully, as in we switch from red to blue. We're a battleground state now. Please try and develop second grade-level spelling skill before using the internet to lecture people.Does this mean you couldn't read the messege or you didn't agree with the messege?

Hmmm?......Catslave didn't seem to have any problem understanding it?!

asroc

09-30-2008, 01:01 AM

I disagree with the notion that one must be programmed by the media if they disagree with you.

asroc

09-30-2008, 01:04 AM

While I have you here, what actual Couric questions did you find unfair to ask Palin? Why does the McCain campaign keep returning to Couric if they are being treated so unfairly?

Moby

09-30-2008, 01:46 AM

Hog, you do it again.

There is no better proof of the elitist media programming the brainless then your post. I wish I could study you're brain in a lab because it's the perfect example of how the NLP works and manipulates the sheep.

Let me put this to you so that you can better understand.

"Bah. Bahhhhhh. Bahhhh." :)

And yeah, she's amazing!

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 02:16 AM

While I have you here, what actual Couric questions did you find unfair to ask Palin? Why does the McCain campaign keep returning to Couric if they are being treated so unfairly?I watched Courics interviews with Palin and Biden and her bias was obvious in her demeaner, mannerisms, tone of voice and facial expressions.

Watch these two interviews...If you don't see the bias you are blind...This is common practice in media journalism...It's sad, heartless and disgusting.

The interview with Biden looked more like two old friends sitting down for a discussion. Warm, smiling, fuzzy and friendly.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4470093n%3fsource=search_video

Courics interview with Palin was strickly business, never a smile or a friendly moment at all. Couric actually appeared cold and angry.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4479049n%3fsource=search_video

I think the McCain campaign believes that Courics cold obvious bias will backfire on the left and bring the people closer to Palin....A calculated strategy.
I disagree with the notion that one must be programmed by the media if they disagree with you.I agree...The far left progressive liberals will agree with Obama's politics and support him for the right reasons, but I'm talking about the not to smart and the young and/or inexperienced voters. College students are signing up in droves. They are easily suckered by a slick talking politician and campus peer pressure. I drove through a section of my city with a large college campus, and pictures and posters of Barack Obama were literaly everywhere.

SeedyROM

09-30-2008, 04:52 AM

Who am I??

I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors, I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president - with less than two years in the governor's office.

Did you guess? (scroll down)

I am Teddy Roosevelt - in 1900

asroc

09-30-2008, 07:08 AM

As cute as that sounds, the world is now more complex by an order of magnitude than it was in 1900. You'd do well to avoid such "clever" inbox nursery rhyme when coming to your conclusions.

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 07:20 AM

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 08:08 AM

The upcoming VP debate will be the end of the Palin moment.

Her 15 minutes will be up.

Program that.

Independent Harry

09-30-2008, 09:56 AM

Does this mean you couldn't read the messege or you didn't agree with the messege?

Hmmm?......Catslave didn't seem to have any problem understanding it?!

Catslave has been agreeing with everyone lately, no matter how contradictory their positions are...

asroc

09-30-2008, 10:09 AM

Catslave has been agreeing with everyone lately, no matter how contradictory their positions are...

I've noticed this.

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 10:47 AM

Moby

09-30-2008, 10:50 AM

Hog, did you notice how many times you used the word "Elitist"? That's a word that you never used before you were programmed to repeat it. Who programmed that into you? Rupert Murdoch, Sun Myung Moon and Lowry Mays have chosen to program that word into your brain and now you spew it when speaking about things and you don't understand why.

Then you speak about Palin without knowing her legislative background. You haven't mentioned a single piece of legislation she's worked on or a success in her career. What did she do for her small town other then get Millions of dollars of pork money from the US tax payers and leave the town in massive debt?

But as you've said, she has the looks, she's a amazing and because of that you think she's honest.

Then you take it even further by using more of the programming that got America where it is today. "She's one of us." Never have more programmed words ever been spoken about an individual unless you're from a small town of under 10k people, have never left the country and you live in darkness 1/2 the year.

No one has to tell us about her "Smartness". People can listen to her interviews. Sure we can attack Couric for being the one to ask the questions but where those questions that difficult to answer and were they unexpected?

Anyone smarter then Palin must be "Elitist" and "One of them". :)

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 11:59 AM

I'm waiting on an answer from ANY McCain/Palin supporter ...

George Will, David Brooks and Kathleen Parker, who wrote a column entitled “She’s Out of Her League” for the National Review Online .. were they also programmed?

I'm betting they don't have an answer.People are allowed their own opinions and these three people have theirs. Besides, it doesn't matter if their left or right, their still from the same elitest croud as the others.

I'm refering to the journalist who actively and blatantly use their positions to promote the candidate of their choice and slander the candidate who threatens his success...Celebrities who have total complete non-stop access to the media, and are making a concerted effort to influence the public. The power of an entire entertainment and news media industry united to fix an election....It all breaks down to "brainwashing".....Obama is a lowlife piece of shit with a racist, corrupt, America hating history, and could not be where he is without the media promotion and assistance he has received.

Palin was asked to name a Supreme Court case other then Roe v Wade .. SILENCE .. she didn't fumble, she simply couldn't name one other case.

There are absolutes in life, and without the lightest question, Palin is absolutely unqualified to be on any national ticket.

The glaring absolute here is that suggesting that others are being "programmed" because they possess the intelligence to recognize Palin is unqualified is absolutely moronic .. to the nth degree.

George Will, David Brooks and Kathleen Parker, who wrote a column entitled “She’s Out of Her League” for the National Review Online .. were they also programmed? In case you don't know, and given the level of moronic thought in this thread, you might not know .. all of them are staunch conservatives. Were they also programmed?

Hardly worth debating.This is simple to answer and I'm surprised you have to ask.

Even considering the things you have said about Palin, she is still smarter and more experienced than Obama, and more qualified to be Vice President than Barack Hussein Obama is to be President.

I admit that Obama is a much better and faster talking bullshitter than Palin, but these are not qualities in my opinion. I don't want another corrupt, smooth talking, slick politician for my President. I prefer someone more down to earth.....Palin is perfect, but her #1 quality is, she ain't Obama.

Hog, did you notice how many times you used the word "Elitist"? That's a word that you never used before you were programmed to repeat it. Who programmed that into you?I learned a new word today! "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist"....Great word! Huh?......Did it ever occur to you that it applies, einstein?

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 12:22 PM

People are allowed their own opinions and these three people have theirs. Besides, it doesn't matter if their left or right, their still from the same elitest croud as the others.

I'm refering to the journalist who actively and blatantly use their positions to promote the candidate of their choice and slander the candidate who threatens his success...Celebrities who have total complete non-stop access to the media, and are making a concerted effort to influence the public. The power of an entire entertainment and news media industry united to fix an election....It all breaks down to "brainwashing".....Obama is a lowlife piece of shit with a racist, corrupt, America hating history, and could not be where he is without the media promotion and assistance he has received.
This is simple to answer and I'm surprised you have to ask.

Even considering the things you have said about Palin, she is still smarter and more experienced than Obama, and more qualified to be Vice President than Barack Hussein Obama is to be President.

I admit that Obama is a much better and faster talking bullshitter than Palin, but these are not qualities in my opinion. I don't want another corrupt, smooth talking, slick politician for my President. I prefer someone more down to earth.....Palin is perfect, but her #1 quality is, she ain't Obama.
I learned a new word today! "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist" "Elitist"....Great word! Huh?......Did it ever occur to you that it applies, einstein?

WOW .. are you and SeniorChief related?

I mean just DAMN. I bet you consider yourself to be smart. :)

Before it was the liberals and left being programmed against Palin, but when I ask what about staunch conservatives against Palin, NOW it's people are allowed their own opinions .. just not liberals and the left, huh? .. a completely disingenuous and ridiculous response.

"Palin is smarter than Obama" .. keep in mind I'm not an Obama supporter .. but does this count?

Obama
Graduate of Columbia University
Graduate of Harvard Law School
President of Harvard Law Review
Nominated as the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party after beating the most powerful political family in America in the last 40 years.

Palin
In 1982, Palin enrolled at Hawaii Pacific University but left after her first semester. From there she transferred to North Idaho College, where she spent two semesters as a general studies major. From there, she then transferred to the University of Idaho for two semesters. During this time Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant beauty contest, then finished third (second runner-up) in the Miss Alaska pageant, at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award. She then left the University of Idaho and attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term. The next year she returned to the University of Idaho where she spent three semesters completing her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987

Picked by John McCain as VP mate.

One would have to be delusional/moron to believe what you said.

SeniorChief

09-30-2008, 12:26 PM

Obama
Graduate of Columbia University
Graduate of Harvard Law School
President of Harvard Law Review
Nominated as the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party after beating the most powerful political family in America in the last 40 years.

.

Using your brain-dead trailer trash "logic," we should all assume that Baraquie Hussein is smarter than drop-out Bill Gates?

Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and smell some oxygen, vs. your father's old underwear.

asroc

09-30-2008, 12:31 PM

SeniorChief is saying that by BlackAsCoal's logic, Sarah Palin is smarter than Bill Gates.

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 12:42 PM

Using your brain-dead trailer trash "logic," we should all assume that Baraquie Hussein is smarter than drop-out Bill Gates?

Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and smell some oxygen, vs. your father's old underwear.

Trailer trash? .. I'm black.

Coordinate your insults properly you dummy. :lmao2:

What I said was, does his stellar education and what he has accomplished becoming the Democratic Party nominee count.

Bill Gates was not part of the equation .. you went there because you're a dummy and you didn't have an answer for the educational comparison, nor could you compare how they both got to this point.

Go away old crusty man .. the parade ain't (eb) comin' ;)

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal
Before it was the liberals and left being programmed against Palin,

You don't have to be a liberal to be an elitist, einstein. The republican establishment hate Palin as much as the liberals.

She was grudgingly chosen because she was the only hope McCain had to defeat Obama.

Of course Palin is smarter than Obama...She worked long hard and smart to get where she is today.

Obama is where he is because doors were opened for him along the way and he was pretty much handed everything he's got.
Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal
Nominated as the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party after beating the most powerful political family in America in the last 40 years.
He defeated Clinton only because he had the full backing of the elitest media, that is the main point of this thread.

Wiithout the help Obama got along the way, Hillary and the Clinton machine would of tore him to pieces.

Obama is a smart man but it had Absolutely nothing to do with defeating Hillary.
Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal
"Palin is smarter than Obama" .. keep in mind I'm not an Obama supporter .. but does this count?

Obama
Graduate of Columbia University
Graduate of Harvard Law School
President of Harvard Law Review
You're really not all that bright, are you?...You're obviously a little out of your league here.

Harvard and Columbia does not make you smarter, just better connected.

You need a lot more practice to play this game....You should take a year off and read something.

asroc

09-30-2008, 03:43 PM

Hillary had a terrible ground game and GOTV. That's still what works best.

She was as assumed as Giuliani, that was part of her downfall in the end.

SeniorChief

09-30-2008, 04:02 PM

Trailer trash? .. I'm black.

Black's don't live in trailers?

Moby

09-30-2008, 04:03 PM

Of course Palin is smarter than Obama...She worked long hard and smart to get where she is today.
She had to go to 5 schools before she got her degree and it wasn't a law degree in Constitutional Law either. It was a Bachelor of Science Degree in Communications Journalism. How do people usually see Communication and Advertising degrees?

Any chance you can support such a claim or is it just because she's "AMAZING"? :thumbsup:

Moby

09-30-2008, 04:05 PM

Using your brain-dead trailer trash "logic," we should all assume that Baraquie Hussein is smarter than drop-out Bill Gates?

Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and smell some oxygen, vs. your father's old underwear.
That's true. He could just make false and insane claims like your first claim about Obama's father.

Come on. Can't you support anything with a little reality based information?

asroc

09-30-2008, 04:06 PM

You heard it here first guys, a man who spells like a second grader says having a college education from Harvard or Columbia doesn't make one smarter.

Hog Trash, by the way, has the equivalent of a engineering degree at MIT in streetsmarts.

You can take your liberal commie fag booksmarts and go back to Taxachussetts!

Binky

09-30-2008, 05:48 PM

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 05:50 PM

You heard it here first guys, a man who spells like a second grader says having a college education from Harvard or Columbia doesn't make one smarter.

Think very carefully what you're saying here asroc....

Someone educated at Harvard or Columbia is smarter than someone educated at UCLA, NotreDame,

the Universities of Texas, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Kentucky or any number of reputable universities around the country.

Many prominent people from Harvard, Yale and Columbia have gone far, not because they are smarter or better educated,

but because they are better connected. The word "idiot" was invented for people like you.

SeedyROM

09-30-2008, 06:17 PM

As cute as that sounds, the world is now more complex by an order of magnitude than it was in 1900. You'd do well to avoid such "clever" inbox nursery rhyme when coming to your conclusions.

Thanks for your apathetic nonsense. The world was complex back then and still is today too dumbass. Apathy has consumed you!!

FYI, an article was mentioned by BlackasCoal.............you forgot to harass that guy for
not providing a link!!!! Go harass him or you are biased!!

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 06:19 PM

A very good post Hog. But since Palin is a repug and the repugs have been in office for the last eight years and has contributed greatly to the mess we find ourselves in today, it leaves me in a tizzy as to whom to vote for. I honestly don't think this country can take another four years and possibly eight, so soon after coming off this last eight years. Look at the damage that's been done.

However, the dems are just as guilty. They've had their hands in the mess to drive America to the poop pile. They are no means innocent in creating this mess.

I really like Palin, but I just don't know. I guess any of us can do on voting day is to vote our hearts and common sense. This election is going to bring out voters that haven't voted in years, or never bothered to vote before.

And it really makes me furious as to how the much control the media has and how they just love to play the mind control games with people. It's a dangerous path we're walking on if we believe every single word they yap at us.

Anyway, either way it goes we're in a world of hurt. :(I honestly don't believe Palin has been corrupted yet...She's been secluded in Alaska most of her life and away from the filth of the Capital.

That's not to say she won't be dirty after 4 years in Washington DC. But for for now she's clean...Something Obama is definately not.

I will vote for her hoping she will stay clean and hopefully in 2012 she will be the one to save our country.

If you have a better plan I will gladly listen and consider any proposal you may have.

If Obama wins I'm heading for the mountains to hide from what will be coming.

SeedyROM

09-30-2008, 06:22 PM

Catslave has been agreeing with everyone lately, no matter how contradictory their positions are...

Catslave is smart enough to recognize what the thread originator is saying and Cat is agreeing in principle. I guess Free Speech still offends you. There is no contradiction, just your closed mind engaging in hate against those whom you disagree with. People do have the right and choice to agree or disagree with both parties and the positions of citizens whether you like it or not!!

Binky

09-30-2008, 06:26 PM

SeedyROM

09-30-2008, 06:41 PM

Palin was asked to name a Supreme Court case other then Roe v Wade .. SILENCE .. she didn't fumble, she simply couldn't name one other case.

There are absolutes in life, and without the lightest question, Palin is absolutely unqualified to be on any national ticket.

The glaring absolute here is that suggesting that others are being "programmed" because they possess the intelligence to recognize Palin is unqualified is absolutely moronic .. to the nth degree.

George Will, David Brooks and Kathleen Parker, who wrote a column entitled “She’s Out of Her League” for the National Review Online .. were they also programmed? In case you don't know, and given the level of moronic thought in this thread, you might not know .. all of them are staunch conservatives. Were they also programmed?

Hardly worth debating.

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden all said Barack Obama was not qualified to be President of the United States. Were they programmed or speaking thier minds??? All 3 gave honest and very ethical answers. We should trust these professionals and thier points of view back in late 2007 and in 2008 over thier party programmed viewpoints today!!! 7 other Dem candidates also beleived Obama lacked experience and was not qualified.

Obama has answered many questions the wrong way, lied on camera and misrepresented himself and his qualifications............so he is not fit to run for office based on his lack of experience. His resume is equal to Palin's, we've already been through that debate with website offering a side by side resume comparison.

fyi, the article you posted without a link is just an example of conservatives writing about a candidate. Dems write negative articles about dem candidates too because thier bosses ask them too, otherwise the company appears to be biased in favor of one party or candidate. Objective writing versus subjective. We have too much party bias in the media these days.

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 06:51 PM

I have no better plan Hog, than to vote my heart and conscience. I'm afraid, no matter which man is elected, our country is headed for a shit storm. I really like Palin, but she is controlled by her boss and his people etc. She will only be able to do and say what he lets her. I think she would be great for America. I see no creepy people rising up out of her background. I only see four children that love their mother and a loving husband in hers.The McCain campaign managers are coaching Palin and I believe they're afraid to let her be herself.

They are so locked into the phony bullshit of politics, they have lost the value of speaking from the heart.

I think if they let her do what she does best, the people will respond to her.

Her own personality and communication skills are her best weapons.

The handlers should trust her and turn her loose.....The people will love her.

Independent Harry

09-30-2008, 07:32 PM

I honestly don't believe Palin has been corrupted yet...She's been secluded in Alaska most of her life and away from the filth of the Capital.

That's not to say she won't be dirty after 4 years in Washington DC. But for for now she's clean...Something Obama is definately not.

I will vote for her hoping she will stay clean and hopefully in 2012 she will be the one to save our country.

If you have a better plan I will gladly listen and consider any proposal you may have.

If Obama wins I'm heading for the mountains to hide from what will be coming.

Hopefully when you head for the mountains you won't take the internet with you...

bairdi

09-30-2008, 07:33 PM

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden all said Barack Obama was not qualified to be President of the United States. Were they programmed or speaking thier minds??? All 3 gave honest and very ethical answers. We should trust these professionals and thier points of view back in late 2007 and in 2008 over thier party programmed viewpoints today!!! 7 other Dem candidates also beleived Obama lacked experience and was not qualified.

Obama has answered many questions the wrong way, lied on camera and misrepresented himself and his qualifications............so he is not fit to run for office based on his lack of experience. His resume is equal to Palin's, we've already been through that debate with website offering a side by side resume comparison.

fyi, the article you posted without a link is just an example of conservatives writing about a candidate. Dems write negative articles about dem candidates too because thier bosses ask them too, otherwise the company appears to be biased in favor of one party or candidate. Objective writing versus subjective. We have too much party bias in the media these days.
Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden all had a vested interest in making the comments they did about Obama. There were in competition with Barack and used comments spoken in the heat of battle. On the other hand, the conservative writers that have spoken out against Palin, do not have the same type of personal vested interest and are not competing with her for anything. Their comments are not "the party programmed viewpoints" that you accuse the Clintons and Biden of making now in support of their party's nominee.

Unlike Palin, Obama has been vetted, interviewed, dissected and examined during a two year campaign and several million of voters have given him a vote of confidence to represent their party as a presidential candidate. I think that your comment about Palin's resume being equal to Obama's is laughable. In a job interview, Obama wins hands down.

Independent Harry

09-30-2008, 07:34 PM

Catslave is smart enough to recognize what the thread originator is saying and Cat is agreeing in principle. I guess Free Speech still offends you. There is no contradiction, just your closed mind engaging in hate against those whom you disagree with. People do have the right and choice to agree or disagree with both parties and the positions of citizens whether you like it or not!!

No I'm saying i've seen catslave agree with two posters that held contradictory positions. I have no problem with free speech, in fact i'm one of the biggest proponents of it you will find.

I don't hate the people I disagree with, I just think they are stupid. :hi: like you :p

Independent Harry

09-30-2008, 07:35 PM

The McCain campaign managers are coaching Palin and I believe they're afraid to let her be herself.

They are so locked into the phony bullshit of politics, they have lost the value of speaking from the heart.

I think if they let her do what she does best, the people will respond to her.

Her own personality and communication skills are her best weapons.

The handlers should trust her and turn her loose.....The people will love her.

lol, you are not watching the same lady the rest of the country is watching...

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 08:01 PM

Hopefully when you head for the mountains you won't take the internet with you...Ahhh....Come on harry, you sure you could get along without me?

Don't tell me you would be happier if there was nothing but like minded liberals around here?

Wouldn't a forum full of obamanauts be boring as hell?

Nothing to do but sit around all day and laugh at each others tally-wackers.

SeedyROM

09-30-2008, 08:26 PM

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden all had a vested interest in making the comments they did about Obama. There were in competition with Barack and used comments spoken in the heat of battle. On the other hand, the conservative writers that have spoken out against Palin, do not have the same type of personal vested interest and are not competing with her for anything. Their comments are not "the party programmed viewpoints" that you accuse the Clintons and Biden of making now in support of their party's nominee.

Unlike Palin, Obama has been vetted, interviewed, dissected and examined during a two year campaign and several million of voters have given him a vote of confidence to represent their party as a presidential candidate. I think that your comment about Palin's resume being equal to Obama's is laughable. In a job interview, Obama wins hands down.

Oh no, all 3 were speaking thier mind with honest and ethical answers pertaining to Obama!!! The truth can and never will be forgotten. They had a vested interest in telling the truth as they saw it!!! The Clintons are not fully vested in Obama these days, in fact they are holding back and doing very little and Dems are criticizing them, lol. Maybe they don't really believe in Obama. In fact if McCain wins, Hillary is lined up for the 2012 campaign!!

Did you even puruse the thread in question, Obama and Palin have a lot in common, but from different areas of government? Till you compare the two side by side, you have little to say that is beleiveable. Palin has executive experience, Obama has none. You know little about the job interview process too!!

The writers spokeout on weak points. You clowns refuse to even discuss Obama's many many weak points............its too TABOO!!!! I can discuss either parties weak points but you clowns are afraid to open up. Talk about laughable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

SeedyROM

09-30-2008, 08:28 PM

No I'm saying i've seen catslave agree with two posters that held contradictory positions. I have no problem with free speech, in fact i'm one of the biggest proponents of it you will find.

I don't hate the people I disagree with, I just think they are stupid. :hi: like you :p

Moron, now you admit you have no proof, right?? :talktothehand: Post proof otherwise you cold be confusing facts with no basis to act upon such asinine conclusions?? You confused my post with another Glass Stegall thread and you were worng there too. You are wrong here too unless you prove it!!:taunt:

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 08:39 PM

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden all said Barack Obama was not qualified to be President of the United States. Were they programmed or speaking thier minds??? All 3 gave honest and very ethical answers. We should trust these professionals and thier points of view back in late 2007 and in 2008 over thier party programmed viewpoints today!!! 7 other Dem candidates also beleived Obama lacked experience and was not qualified.

Obama has answered many questions the wrong way, lied on camera and misrepresented himself and his qualifications............so he is not fit to run for office based on his lack of experience. His resume is equal to Palin's, we've already been through that debate with website offering a side by side resume comparison.

fyi, the article you posted without a link is just an example of conservatives writing about a candidate. Dems write negative articles about dem candidates too because thier bosses ask them too, otherwise the company appears to be biased in favor of one party or candidate. Objective writing versus subjective. We have too much party bias in the media these days.

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not the idiot who suggests that people with different opinions are "programmed" .. best ask Hog man if the Clintons and Biden are programmed.

And surely you are smart enough to know that other candidates for the nomination will say anything to get it .. just ask the other candidates who went up against McCain .. ask George Bush and Karl Rove who called McCain's POW record a fraud and called him a liar.

Before they swiftboated Kerry, they swiftboated McCain.

Is politics new to you.

... and you can on for days about how "qualified" Palin is or how unqualified Obama is .. won't make a damn bit of difference, no one is listening .. because they know better .. apparently, you do not.

In case you haven't noticed, the McFossil/MILF ship is sinking real fast .. and both independents and conservatives recognize what an absolute uneducated mess Palin is.

But feel free to wax poetically about the virtues of electing a Waffle House waitress as vice-president.

BlackAsCoal

09-30-2008, 08:45 PM

Oh no, all 3 were speaking thier mind with honest and ethical answers pertaining to Obama!!! The truth can and never will be forgotten. They had a vested interest in telling the truth as they saw it!!! The Clintons are not fully vested in Obama these days, in fact they are holding back and doing very little and Dems are criticizing them, lol. Maybe they don't really believe in Obama. In fact if McCain wins, Hillary is lined up for the 2012 campaign!!

Did you even puruse the thread in question, Obama and Palin have a lot in common, but from different areas of government? Till you compare the two side by side, you have little to say that is beleiveable. Palin has executive experience, Obama has none. You know little about the job interview process too!!

The writers spokeout on weak points. You clowns refuse to even discuss Obama's many many weak points............its too TABOO!!!! I can discuss either parties weak points but you clowns are afraid to open up. Talk about laughable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

More bullshit.

I talk about Obama's weaknesses all the time .. even call him Obambi .. AND (here's the big telling difference) .. I'm not voting for Obambi.

Are you voting for Mccain?

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 08:59 PM

Unlike Palin, Obama has been vetted, interviewed, dissected and examined during a two year campaign and several million of voters have given him a vote of confidence to represent their party as a presidential candidate. LOL...You have got to be shitting me!...There was more vetting of Sarah Palin her first week after her VP announcement, than on Obama to date.

The man has been given a free pass by the press and media. They have spent more time and effort making excuses for Obama than vetting him....You're funny bairdi.

Mr. Blue

09-30-2008, 10:14 PM

I’ll just comment on the original post as I don’t have time to read all the fighting after it.

Hog Trash isn’t entirely wrong, but is wrong about Palin…

Here’s the thing, the media, whether it’s right or left, express extreme views of the world. What I mean is that they’re either so far right or so far left, that they’re almost dogmatically pushing their ideology that might not be in check with what the average American feels.

Nixon said it best regarding the “silent majority” in America and people think that this middle of the road moderate disappeared, but on the contrary, they just got silent. This basically means there’s this majority in America that doesn’t have a voice, which allows both right and left loons to dictate what they should feel about important issues. The thing is that every 4 years we get candidates that represents the core of their individual parties, but no one that can touch the moderates in America.

So this “news” or “infotainment” that we get fed almost always has an agenda, whether it’s for ratings, for political ideology, etc, but it definitely isn’t unbiased on either side.

Where Hogtrash is wrong though is the fact that Palin just doesn’t have enough experience for the job. Just like Obama doesn’t have enough experience for the job…especially with the current mess going on at the moment. Someone mentioned Theodore Roosevelt, well, I’ve studied Roosevelt, and all I can say is McCain/Palin – Obama/Biden…they’re no T. Roosevelt.

What we need is an extraordinary candidate, with moderate views, and a real understanding of what it takes to be a leader, and nobody running at the moment has those qualities…

bairdi

09-30-2008, 10:20 PM

LOL...You have got to be shitting me!...There was more vetting of Sarah Palin her first week after her VP announcement, than on Obama to date.

The man has been given a free pass by the press and media. They have spent more time and effort making excuses for Obama than vetting him....You're funny bairdi.
This absurd post doesn't even deserve a response. She has given what? Three interviews? And she made a complete fool of herself in two of them.

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 10:35 PM

Where Hogtrash is wrong though is the fact that Palin just doesn’t have enough experience for the job. Just like Obama doesn’t have enough experience for the job…especially with the current mess going on at the moment.I never said she was experienced enough if you check my post below.

What I said was she was no less experienced than Obama.

I also stated that if anything, she had more experience than Obama, my reason being she is a governor.
Originally Posted by Hog Trash
Governor Palin is no less qualified or experienced for the job of Prez or VP than Obama and probably more experienced if anything.

Yet the elitist news media is doing everything possible to steer us away from her and to Obama. Ask yourself why!?
If you read carefully what I posted you will find it is very accurate.

Hog Trash

09-30-2008, 10:44 PM

This absurd post doesn't even deserve a response. She has given what? Three interviews? And she made a complete fool of herself in two of them.Obama and Biden don't get attacked by rabied dogs every time they are interviewed like McCain and Palin do.

It does make it a little harder to concentrate. McCain is use to it, and believe me, Palin will adjust in due time. She'll be fine.

bairdi

09-30-2008, 10:52 PM

Obama and Biden don't get attacked by rabied dogs when they are interviewed like McCain and Palin do.

It does make it a little harder to concentrate. McCain is use to it, and believe me, Palin will adjust in due time. She'll be fine.
Guess you must have missed the O'Reilly or Wallace interviews with Obama. Katy Couric interviews like a rabid dog?

Remember back when you were a kid Hog and someone would use the expression that "he's got more shit than Carter has little liver pills?" That expression hits the nail on the head when it comes to some of your posts lately.

Mr. Blue

09-30-2008, 10:57 PM

I never said she was experienced enough if you check my post below.

What I said was she was no less experienced than Obama.

I stand corrected.

I still believe we once again have crap candidates for yet another election. No matter who we vote for we're most likely going to hell in a hand basket.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 04:33 AM

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not the idiot who suggests that people with different opinions are "programmed" .. best ask Hog man if the Clintons and Biden are programmed.

And surely you are smart enough to know that other candidates for the nomination will say anything to get it .. just ask the other candidates who went up against McCain .. ask George Bush and Karl Rove who called McCain's POW record a fraud and called him a liar.

Before they swiftboated Kerry, they swiftboated McCain.

Is politics new to you.

... and you can on for days about how "qualified" Palin is or how unqualified Obama is .. won't make a damn bit of difference, no one is listening .. because they know better .. apparently, you do not.

In case you haven't noticed, the McFossil/MILF ship is sinking real fast .. and both independents and conservatives recognize what an absolute uneducated mess Palin is.

But feel free to wax poetically about the virtues of electing a Waffle House waitress as vice-president.

So all that nonsense tells me you did not see the resume comparison. Clinton and Biden are lying now that Hillary and Biden dropped out, that is a no brainer. I'll find the comparison. I still laugh at these clowns who think Obama is actually qualified in comparison. :lmao2:

Palin slipped up in 2 interviews and Dems think they found a smoking gun, I say no. You will see Thursday night. Couric asked some hypothetical questions and the dem media went bonko super wacko wowee, not a big deal but to air heads and the easily manipulated it may have seemed important, but it was not.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 04:38 AM

More bullshit.

I talk about Obama's weaknesses all the time .. even call him Obambi .. AND (here's the big telling difference) .. I'm not voting for Obambi.

Are you voting for Mccain?

You do realize I was speaking to bairdi, not you, right??? I know you speak of Obomi's weaknesses, Biardi and the rest are afraid too. They despise people who speak the truth about the man's weaknesses.

Regardless, Bill and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were speaking the truth about Obama last fall. They said the man lacks the expereince needed to be President, no BS about it dude. It is true and a matter of public record. The other candidates were very blunt about Obama too.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 04:47 AM

Guess you must have missed the O'Reilly or Wallace interviews with Obama. Katy Couric interviews like a rabid dog?

Remember back when you were a kid Hog and someone would use the expression that "he's got more shit than Carter has little liver pills?" That expression hits the nail on the head when it comes to some of your posts lately.

I watched O'Reilly with Obama. Bill likes to snap out loud to throw all guests off thier talking points to get them to speak openly rather than the usual memorized rhetoric. Bill is tough and he is fair, not as cut throat and sleazy as Hannity would be.

Obama did fairly good with O'Reilly, but he clamoured and got knocked off his game and looked like he was nervous. Obama had to reach for answers at times, no telepromters no cue cards, just a raw interview. Everyone shoudl watch it and watch Obama break down from the Chosen One complex so many have invented around this guy.

Obama interrupted O'Reilly a few times, he does it when he gets insecure. McCain threw Obama of his game several times in the debate too. Obama always rudely interupts when he loses his composure.

asroc

10-01-2008, 09:06 AM

If you don't interrupt O'Reilly you don't get to talk.

bairdi

10-01-2008, 09:16 AM

I watched O'Reilly with Obama. Bill likes to snap out loud to throw all guests off thier talking points to get them to speak openly rather than the usual memorized rhetoric. Bill is tough and he is fair, not as cut throat and sleazy as Hannity would be.

Obama did fairly good with O'Reilly, but he clamoured and got knocked off his game and looked like he was nervous. Obama had to reach for answers at times, no telepromters no cue cards, just a raw interview. Everyone shoudl watch it and watch Obama break down from the Chosen One complex so many have invented around this guy.

Obama interrupted O'Reilly a few times, he does it when he gets insecure. McCain threw Obama of his game several times in the debate too. Obama always rudely interupts when he loses his composure.
And how would Palin do with a similar interview, say with Keith Olbermann? It's a hypothetical question because it will never happen. In fact, I would be willing to bet that she would not interview with O'Reilly either even though it would be on the friendly turf of Faux News.

Obama, at no time, looked nervous to me in that interview with O'Reilly. In the end, he gained the man's respect.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 09:40 AM

So all that nonsense tells me you did not see the resume comparison. Clinton and Biden are lying now that Hillary and Biden dropped out, that is a no brainer. I'll find the comparison. I still laugh at these clowns who think Obama is actually qualified in comparison. :lmao2:

Palin slipped up in 2 interviews and Dems think they found a smoking gun, I say no. You will see Thursday night. Couric asked some hypothetical questions and the dem media went bonko super wacko wowee, not a big deal but to air heads and the easily manipulated it may have seemed important, but it was not.

First, I don't need to see the resume comparison because I have a brain, and so do you .. and there is such a thing called "common sense", and I'm sure you're aware of it. Either I'm wrong, and you're not the intelligent person I think you are, or your ideology inhibits intelligence and common sense from your thinking.

Do you think Palin could have accomplished what Obama has accomplished? Even with the illusioned "the media liked him" ridiculousness, say th media like her .. do you believe she could have raised the most money in presidential history, beat the most powerful political family in America, and won the nomination? If you say yes then intelligence and common sense ain't getting through.

The constant whine about his experience only adds to the amazement of his accomplishments. Let's put all the Limbaugh/Hannity/knucklehead talking points together ...

Not experienced
has a funny/terrorist sounding name
could be a traitor
has connections to mobsters and terrorists , possibly Satan himself
he's an elitist
hates white people
could be a communist
connected to stolen elections
and, by the way, he's black

YET, he's raised more money in history, beat the most powerful political family in America, got more votes in primary history, did this while serving his FIRST term in the US Senate .. and by the way, he's black .. AND he's going to be the next President of the United States.

You wanna compare .. what .. resumes?

Get real brother .. I don't even like him .. but what you're talking about makes absolutely no sense.

Leave that to the lemmings .. you're smarter than that.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 09:51 AM

And how would Palin do with a similar interview, say with Keith Olbermann? It's a hypothetical question because it will never happen. In fact, I would be willing to bet that she would not interview with O'Reilly either even though it would be on the friendly turf of Faux News.

Obama, at no time, looked nervous to me in that interview with O'Reilly. In the end, he gained the man's respect.

With regards to Obama having the temerity to do the interview I agree with you .. but he stuck another hole in his own balloon when he did it. He gave O'Reilly more stature than he deserves. He's not a journalist, he's a pundit.

Republicans don't play politics like that .. it's one of the reasons why democrats can't win national elections .. they're pussies.

He also lost more antiwar voters .. "The surge was successful beyond anyone's wildest dreams"

He once again demonstrated who's pulling his strings .. the exact same puppetmasters who were pulling Bush's strings.

The only change America is going to get with Obama is a president with a really nice tan .. and who can actually speak the english language.

bairdi

10-01-2008, 10:25 AM

The only change America is going to get with Obama is a president with a really nice tan .. and who can actually speak the english language.
If that turns out to be true, then I will be the first to admit that I've been had. But until that happens, I will hold on to the gut instincts I have about the character of the man.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 10:33 AM

If that turns out to be true, then I will be the first to admit that I've been had. But until that happens, I will hold on to the gut instincts I have about the character of the man.

I have no problem with you holding on to those instincts and any hope you may have. Hopefully I'm wrong .. but I'm not ,, and the evidence that I'm not is everywhere hiding in plain sight.

FISA
Bailout
WAR
Israel
Iraq
Iran
... just to name a few

bairdi

10-01-2008, 11:29 AM

I have no problem with you holding on to those instincts and any hope you may have. Hopefully I'm wrong .. but I'm not ,, and the evidence that I'm not is everywhere hiding in plain sight.

FISA
Bailout
WAR
Israel
Iraq
Iran
... just to name a few
As you know first hand, being a black man in a country with a history of racism and trying to get elected to the office of president is not easy. Add to that, the fact that the neocon propaganda machine is painting him with a brush of Marxism and it becomes even more difficult. He cannot change the color of his skin, but he can offer a nuanced position on issues. Anything less than tacking toward the center will result in death by a thousand cuts.

The essence of the man, someone who chose to work for the good of people rather than the pursuit of wealth on Wall Street, cannot be changed. Contrast the life experience of the current idiot in the Whitehouse with Obama and you may get what I am saying.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 12:11 PM

As you know first hand, being a black man in a country with a history of racism and trying to get elected to the office of president is not easy. Add to that, the fact that the neocon propaganda machine is painting him with a brush of Marxism and it becomes even more difficult. He cannot change the color of his skin, but he can offer a nuanced position on issues. Anything less than tacking toward the center will result in death by a thousand cuts.

The essence of the man, someone who chose to work for the good of people rather than the pursuit of wealth on Wall Street, cannot be changed. Contrast the life experience of the current idiot in the Whitehouse with Obama and you may get what I am saying.

I understand the lessor of two evils argument, I just don't buy it. It still gets you evil.

If he has to be a neocon to get elected, what's the point? What have you gained?

I don't buy the argument that he had to run to the center to get elected. That's what all democratic presidential candidates do and it's why the Democractic Party can't win national elections. We've had two democrats in the White House in the last 40 years, serving a total of 3 terms.

Obama had a movement, and when he posed as the antiwar candidate, I supported him. Now that he's a neocon, I don't.

I used to say that he's flipped on virtually everything he said during the primaries, but I've revised that to say he's flipped on literally everything he said.

He's never met an issue he can't take both sides of and he seems to believe that leadership can be found in the wind .. like all centrists do.

Obama is a corporatist .. plain and simple.

As an African-American, I will take no pride in seeing a weak-ass black man become POTUS.

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 01:07 PM

As you know first hand, being a black man in a country with a history of racism and trying to get elected to the office of president is not easy. Add to that, the fact that the neocon propaganda machine is painting him with a brush of Marxism and it becomes even more difficult. He cannot change the color of his skin, but he can offer a nuanced position on issues. Anything less than tacking toward the center will result in death by a thousand cuts. Not only are you a Politicaly Correct moron, but also

The essence of the man, someone who chose to work for the good of people rather than the pursuit of wealth on Wall Street, cannot be changed. Contrast the life experience of the current idiot in the Whitehouse with Obama and you may get what I am saying. a gullible sucker......

"The poor oppressed black man, long hated by the bad ole white man, but now a selfless, honest and wonderful black man is going to save us".

"Those bad ole white people are going to be sorry and the poor oppressed black people will love me because they will know I felt their pain".

What a typical smug ass fuckin pussy liberal...BAC, I would like to apologize for this fucking idiot...I'm sure you're aware that all whites are not morons.

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 01:14 PM

I understand the lessor of two evils argument, I just don't buy it. It still gets you evil.

If he has to be a neocon to get elected, what's the point? What have you gained?

I don't buy the argument that he had to run to the center to get elected. That's what all democratic presidential candidates do and it's why the Democractic Party can't win national elections. We've had two democrats in the White House in the last 40 years, serving a total of 3 terms.

Obama had a movement, and when he posed as the antiwar candidate, I supported him. Now that he's a neocon, I don't.

I used to say that he's flipped on virtually everything he said during the primaries, but I've revised that to say he's flipped on literally everything he said.

He's never met an issue he can't take both sides of and he seems to believe that leadership can be found in the wind .. like all centrists do.

Obama is a corporatist .. plain and simple.

As an African-American, I will take no pride in seeing a weak-ass black man become POTUS.Obama has never "flipped" on anything....He's just a typical corrupt, lying politician who will say what ever it takes to get a vote.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 01:17 PM

Not only are you a Politicaly Correct moron, but also

a gullible sucker......

"The poor oppressed black man, long hated by the bad ole white man, but now a selfless, honest and wonderful black man is going to save us".

"Those bad ole white people are going to be sorry and the poor oppressed black people will love me because they will know I felt their pain".

What a typical smug ass fuckin pussy liberal...BAC, I would like to apologize for this fucking idiot...I'm sure you're aware that all whites are not morons.

No need whatsoever to apologize for bairdi, I like him.

He has a good heart, good character, we could be friends.

He gave his honest assessment, some of which I agree with, some of it I don't.

But we can disagree civily and conduct ourselves like respectful adults .. I like that.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Obama has never "flipped" on anything....He's just a typical corrupt, lying politician who will say what ever it takes to get a vote.

... but McCain and Palin are different?

... and yes, he has flipped .. which means he's taken a position opposite of his previous stance on an issue .. in case you didn't know.

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 01:37 PM

... but McCain and Palin are different?

... and yes, he has flipped .. which means he's taken a position opposite of his previous stance on an issue .. in case you didn't know.I simply meant he was lying all along as opposed to "flipping".

McCain Is absolutely a corrupt politician and definately a corporate sell out,

no different than the Bushs, the Clintons, Biden or Obama,

along with a couple hundred members of Congress and the Senate.

I have already stated my opinion of Palin in an earlier post;
I honestly don't believe Palin has been corrupted yet...She's been secluded in Alaska most of her life and away from the filth of the Capital.

That's not to say she won't be dirty after 4 years in Washington DC. But for for now she's clean...Something Obama is definately not.

I will vote for her hoping she will stay clean and hopefully in 2012 she will be the one to save our country.

If you have a better plan I will gladly listen and consider any proposal you may have.

If Obama wins I'm heading for the mountains to hide from what will be coming.

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 01:50 PM

No need whatsoever to apologize for bairdi, I like him.

He has a good heart, good character, we could be friends.

He gave his honest assessment, some of which I agree with, some of it I don't.

But we can disagree civily and conduct ourselves like respectful adults .. I like that.First you must understand one simple rule...

Anyone who practices Political Correctness is a phoney.

If you admire, and want to associate with phonies, move to Washington DC.

When bairdi reads your post, he'll probably cum all over himself.

asroc

10-01-2008, 01:53 PM

Translation: anybody that isn't casually and subconsciously racist is politically correct.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 02:40 PM

I simply meant he was lying all along as opposed to "flipping".

McCain Is absolutely a corrupt politician and definately a corporate sell out,

no different than the Bushs, the Clintons, Biden or Obama,

along with a couple hundred members of Congress and the Senate.

I have already stated my opinion of Palin in an earlier post;

Amazing .. a post from you I almost agree with.

Let's call that progress.

... but make sure you pack a sweater .. gets cold in the mountains at night.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 04:57 PM

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 04:59 PM

If you don't interrupt O'Reilly you don't get to talk.

You didn't watch the O'Reilly interview with Obama. Obama talked a lot.
So much for one line zingers.:lmao2:

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 05:04 PM

And how would Palin do with a similar interview, say with Keith Olbermann? It's a hypothetical question because it will never happen. In fact, I would be willing to bet that she would not interview with O'Reilly either even though it would be on the friendly turf of Faux News.

Obama, at no time, looked nervous to me in that interview with O'Reilly. In the end, he gained the man's respect.

I see no reason why Palin would not interview with O'Reilly, she did well with the unscripted interview with Hannity. Palin would do well with Olbermann.

Obama did get nervous, he began to look down, roll hi eyes up as if he we reachin for answers. Watch the video again. Obama did gain Bill's respect but Obama did talk a great circle around direct questions at times. Being vague is what the inexperienced do best!!

asroc

10-01-2008, 05:08 PM

It's funny when you guys do and don't focus on body language.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 05:40 PM

First, I don't need to see the resume comparison because I have a brain, and so do you .. and there is such a thing called "common sense", and I'm sure you're aware of it. Either I'm wrong, and you're not the intelligent person I think you are, or your ideology inhibits intelligence and common sense from your thinking.

Do you think Palin could have accomplished what Obama has accomplished? Even with the illusioned "the media liked him" ridiculousness, say th media like her .. do you believe she could have raised the most money in presidential history, beat the most powerful political family in America, and won the nomination? If you say yes then intelligence and common sense ain't getting through.

The constant whine about his experience only adds to the amazement of his accomplishments. Let's put all the Limbaugh/Hannity/knucklehead talking points together ...

Not experienced
has a funny/terrorist sounding name
could be a traitor
has connections to mobsters and terrorists , possibly Satan himself
he's an elitist
hates white people
could be a communist
connected to stolen elections
and, by the way, he's black

YET, he's raised more money in history, beat the most powerful political family in America, got more votes in primary history, did this while serving his FIRST term in the US Senate .. and by the way, he's black .. AND he's going to be the next President of the United States.

You wanna compare .. what .. resumes?

Get real brother .. I don't even like him .. but what you're talking about makes absolutely no sense.

Leave that to the lemmings .. you're smarter than that.

You seem to forget the past. The presidental debates were well documented.
The Clintons and Biden along with the others all said Obama lacks the Wisdom and Experience to be President. The facts are written in stone. For someone who claims he will not vote for Obama you certainly have a memory gap with the dem debates.

Yes Palin could raise as much money as Obama running as a Democrat:lmao2:
Dems will vote for anyone.......Pee Wee Herman could pass thier litmus test for candidacy. Don't need to see the comparison my ass. Get your briefs from MSNBC? LOL!! Democrats buy into any fantasy invented by the party. They abandoned Howard Dean and put a SCARECROW on the ballot in 2004...........go figure!!:lmao2:

$932 Million in Earmarks out of a total $18 Billion spent by all. $932 million buys a lot of friends!! The fool will loot the country. Obama is the polar opposite of Bush, but he is equally foolish and as wreckless.

Read the site and get educated on comparable facts about Obama and Palins resumes.

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 05:49 PM

It's funny when you guys do and don't focus on body language.

Only useful for stressful questions and answers. All the networks use BL from time to time. Eye contact is the key to honesty and sincerity with answers. When politicians lie or get nervous they break eye contact. Fear sets in and they lose composure. BL is useful at times.

asroc

10-01-2008, 05:55 PM

Eye contact is the key to honesty and sincerity with answers.

That's just some liberal communist Chris Matthews nonsense, remember?

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 06:14 PM

I understand the lessor of two evils argument, I just don't buy it. It still gets you evil.I'm all for it???....What is our alternative to the "lesser of two evils" in this election???....Who should we vote for???

As an African-American, I will take no pride in seeing a weak-ass black man become POTUS.You place quality ahead of racial pride.......I'm impressed.......A virtue that all voters should possess.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 06:55 PM

You seem to forget the past. The presidental debates were well documented.
The Clintons and Biden along with the others all said Obama lacks the Wisdom and Experience to be President. The facts are written in stone. For someone who claims he will not vote for Obama you certainly have a memory gap with the dem debates.

Yes Palin could raise as much money as Obama running as a Democrat:lmao2:
Dems will vote for anyone.......Pee Wee Herman could pass thier litmus test for candidacy. Don't need to see the comparison my ass. Get your briefs from MSNBC? LOL!! Democrats buy into any fantasy invented by the party. They abandoned Howard Dean and put a SCARECROW on the ballot in 2004...........go figure!!:lmao2:

$932 Million in Earmarks out of a total $18 Billion spent by all. $932 million buys a lot of friends!! The fool will loot the country. Obama is the polar opposite of Bush, but he is equally foolish and as wreckless.

Read the site and get educated on comparable facts about Obama and Palins resumes.

You're simply a partisan hack and you don't read very well.

My point was ALL candidates attack each other when they're running for the same office .. there was no distinction of party.

For you it's all about democrats and how evil they are .. YET we've just gone through the worst administration in history .. and here you are talking about democrats,

I'm not the slightesdt bit interested in a bullshit resume comparison .. that's for stupid people.

The good news is the right-wing is shrinking like an icecube in Hell as is their influence. What I'm hearing are the death throes of a failed and dying ideology

... good riddance

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 06:59 PM

I'm all for it???....What is our alternative to the "lesser of two evils" in this election???....Who should we vote for???

I can't tell others who to vote for .. but I'm voting 3rd party.

What America needs is a 3rd Party Revolution.

Stop supporting the neocons.

You place quality ahead of racial pride.......I'm impressed.......A virtue that all voters should possess.

Thank you

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 07:07 PM

You're simply a partisan hack and you don't read very well.

My point was ALL candidates attack each other when they're running for the same office .. there was no distinction of party.

For you it's all about democrats and how evil they are .. YET we've just gone through the worst administration in history .. and here you are talking about democrats,

I'm not the slightesdt bit interested in a bullshit resume comparison .. that's for stupid people.

The good news is the right-wing is shrinking like an icecube in Hell as is their influence. What I'm hearing are the death throes of a failed and dying ideology

... good riddance

Wrong again as usual!!! I'm Independent, neither party is that attractive. Obama must lose regardless, he is far more unpredictable. I live in a world of facts not media mantra and silly slogans or nor helium speeches.

Candidates were speaking truthfully in the dem debates, excuse it all you want it shows how ignorant you are to facts coming from the candidates. Why deny it earlier since you now admit you were aware. LOL!:lmao2:

Read the resume comparison, stop ignoring facts written in an informative format. You sound like a partisan hack with such excuses.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 07:32 PM

Wrong again as usual!!! I'm Independent, neither party is that attracitve. Obama must lose regardless, he is far more unpredictable. I live in a world of facts not media mantra and silly slogans or nor helium speeches.

Candidates were speaking truthfully in the dem debates, excuse it all you want it shows how ignorant you are to facts coming from the candidates. Why deny it earlier since you now admit you were aware. LOL!:lmao2:

Read the resume comparison, stop ignoring facts written in an informative format. You sound like a partisan hack with such excuses.

Independent my ass.

You're just a disaffected republican mad at his party .. but still right there kissing their ass.

You live in a world where ideology stands in for truth, facts, and common sense. Your every post is made-up shit about Obama.

Obama won't lose .. get used to it.

McCain is the worst presidential candidate in history and Obama should be blowing him out, but because Obama is a neocon himself, he'll only bet him by about 10%.

Resume comparison, ACORN .. all bullshit that Americans don't give a damn about, nor should they.

Reality is a bitch.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 07:40 PM

Independent my ass.

You're just a disaffected republican mad at his party .. but still right there kissing their ass.

You live in a world where ideology stands in for truth, facts, and common sense. Your every post is made-up shit about Obama.

Obama won't lose .. get used to it.

McCain is the worst presidential candidate in history and Obama should be blowing him out, but because Obama is a neocon himself, he'll only bet him by about 10%.

Resume comparison, ACORN .. all bullshit that Americans don't give a damn about, nor should they.

Reality is a bitch.

Wrong again as usual. Reading comprehension owns you!!!

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 07:52 PM

I can't tell others who to vote for .. but I'm voting 3rd party.

What America needs is a 3rd Party Revolution.

Stop supporting the neocons.

Thank youI to have been voting independent or third party for 20 years. This year I had intended to vote for Bob Barr.

After I discovered all the racist, anti-American and terrorist associates of Obama, I was forced to once again resort to "fear voting".
Wrong again as usual!!! I'm Independent, neither party is that attracitve. Obama must lose regardless, he is far more unpredictable. I live in a world of facts not media mantra and silly slogans or nor helium speeches.

Candidates were speaking truthfully in the dem debates, excuse it all you want it shows how ignorant you are to facts coming from the candidates. Why deny it earlier since you now admit you were aware. LOL!:lmao2:

Read the resume comparison, stop ignoring facts written in an informative format. You sound like a partisan hack with such excuses.
I will vouch for Seedy....Three months ago he was defending Obama.

I accused him of being a bleeding heart PC liberal at first untill I got to know him.

He is definately as independent as anyone can get. Most liberals don't recognize middle ground.

They pretty much think everyone who disagrees with them is a neocon and doesn't vote for Obama is a racist.

Liberals depend on the government to take care of them, and think for them. A nanny government.

After awhile they lose the ability to do these things for themselves. Makes them as dumb and useless as tits on a bull.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 07:56 PM

Wrong again as usual. Reading comprehension owns you!!!

"Owns" me ...

Sorry, I got out of high school a lot of years ago .. "When I became a man, I put away childish things"

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 08:01 PM

"Owns" me ...

Sorry, I got out of high school a lot of years ago .. "When I became a man, I put away childish things"

Yea right you stupid loser, chasing me post to post is so immature.

Losers like you are easy prey. You never worked & did diddly squat in your life. "When I became a man" was that when your daddy slapped you in the face with his balls??????????????????????????? Fucking ACORN loser.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 08:02 PM

I to have been voting independent or third party for 20 years. This year I had intended to vote for Bob Barr.

After I discovered all the racist, anti-American and terrorist associates of Obama, I was forced to once again resort to "fear voting".

I will vouch for Seedy....Three months ago he was defending Obama.

I accused him of being a bleeding heart PC liberal at first untill I got to know him.

He is definately as independent as anyone can get. Most liberals don't recognize middle ground.

They pretty much think everyone who disagrees with them is a neocon and doesn't vote for Obama is a racist.

Liberals depend on the government to take care of them, and think for them. A nanny government.

After awhile they lose the ability to do these things for themselves. Makes them as dumb and useless as tits on a bull.

And you were doing so well.

Don't know what seedy was 3 months ago, but today he's a partisan hack.

Your bumper-sticker nonsense about liberals is .. well .. stupid.

I'm not a liberal, but Bill Gates is .. think he doesn't know how to take care of himself? I could go on for days and illustrate rich, self-made liberals .. what you suggest is just dumb as fuck .. hardly worth debating.

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 08:06 PM

And you were doing so well.

Don't know what seedy was 3 months ago, but today he's a partisan hack.

Your bumper-sticker nonsense about liberals is .. well .. stupid.

I'm not a liberal, but Bill Gates is .. think he doesn't know how to take care of himself? I could go on for days and illustrate rich, self-made liberals .. what you suggest is just dumb as fuck .. hardly worth debating.

Liar, you fucking degenerate loser, you believe 9/11 was an inside job.

Goddamn moron.

Hog Trash

10-01-2008, 08:09 PM

And you were doing so well.

Don't know what seedy was 3 months ago, but today he's a partisan hack.

Your bumper-sticker nonsense about liberals is .. well .. stupid.

I'm not a liberal, but Bill Gates is .. think he doesn't know how to take care of himself? I could go on for days and illustrate rich, self-made liberals .. what you suggest is just dumb as fuck .. hardly worth debating.Bill Gates is what's known as a "guilty" liberal...Like the Hollywood croud or other people who's wealth came early and easy.

BlackAsCoal

10-01-2008, 08:12 PM

Yea right you stupid loser, chasing me post to post is so immature.

Losers like you are easy prey. You never worked & did diddly squat in your life. "When I became a man" was that when your daddy slapped you in the face with his balls??????????????????????????? Fucking ACORN loser.

:lmao2:

Chasing you? I do recognize why you don't want me commenting on your idiotic posts .. feel free to comment on anything I say anytime you wish. Unlike you, I'm confident in every damn thing I say .. and can back it up.

Paranoid much?

:lmao2:

Dude, you're high school material .. my 16 year old daughter would kill you in debate .. then, once again, you'd be reduced to "dick's in the face" level of moronic "intelligence"

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 08:36 PM

:lmao2:

Chasing you? I do recognize why you don't want me commenting on your idiotic posts .. feel free to comment on anything I say anytime you wish. Unlike you, I'm confident in every damn thing I say .. and can back it up.

Paranoid much?

:lmao2:

Dude, you're high school material .. my 16 year old daughter would kill you in debate .. then, once again, you'd be reduced to "dick's in the face" level of moronic "intelligence"

Wrong again, you deny facts, you are too immature to accept new information. Chasing implies your immaturity, so long as you are honest I don't care if you comment on posts. clearly you are lieing about ACORN and 3 2 other threads. And you are quite ignorant on Obama's exerience in comparison to Palin. You are an ammature wannabie!

SeedyROM

10-01-2008, 08:44 PM

Bill Gates is what's known as a "guilty" liberal...Like the Hollywood croud or other people who's wealth came early and easy.

DumbAsCoal thinks 9/11 was an inside job!! Fools like this have no credibility.

IndependentHarry, Bairdi, Sirmoby StefanSegan and many others all want to believe Bush attacked the twin towers just like DumbAsCoal does. These people are wacko's!!!!!

Check out the lies on this link

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=191

... and many more SEASONED combat and civilian pilots with thousands of hours of flight time .. who don't believe the fairy-tale either

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

There also lots of scientists, engineers, and structral analysts .. but it doesn't take rocket science intelligence to recognize the fraud of 9/11 .. or that never before in the history of fires, buildings, or Man has a steel frame building EVER melted/collapsed from fire .. and it's never happened since or will it ever. It is scientifically impossible.
;)

bairdi

10-01-2008, 10:14 PM

bairdi

10-01-2008, 10:20 PM

Not only are you a Politicaly Correct moron, but also

a gullible sucker......

"The poor oppressed black man, long hated by the bad ole white man, but now a selfless, honest and wonderful black man is going to save us".

"Those bad ole white people are going to be sorry and the poor oppressed black people will love me because they will know I felt their pain".

What a typical smug ass fuckin pussy liberal...BAC, I would like to apologize for this fucking idiot...I'm sure you're aware that all whites are not morons.
Let me put this as succinctly as I can Hog. Go fuck yourself!

Moby

10-01-2008, 11:32 PM

IndependentHarry, Bairdi, Sirmoby StefanSegan and many others all want to believe Bush attacked the twin towers just like DumbAsCoal does. These people are wacko's!!!!!

Check out the lies on this link

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=191
Now this is strong evidence that you are desperate and with all due respect a flat out lying sack of shit.

Where have I ever said that Bush was involved with attacking the twin towers?

I'll wait here while you look for links and quotes to support your false and slanderous statement but I guess when you entire rational is falling apart all you have left is lies.

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal
... and many more SEASONED combat and civilian pilots with thousands of hours of flight time .. who don't believe the fairy-tale either

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

There also lots of scientists, engineers, and structral analysts .. but it doesn't take rocket science intelligence to recognize the fraud of 9/11 .. or that never before in the history of fires, buildings, or Man has a steel frame building EVER melted/collapsed from fire .. and it's never happened since or will it ever. It is scientifically impossible.

Do you also believe that AIDS was created by elements of the white race to exterminate the Black race??? :confused:

Independent Harry

10-02-2008, 01:24 AM

DumbAsCoal thinks 9/11 was an inside job!! Fools like this have no credibility.

IndependentHarry, Bairdi, Sirmoby StefanSegan and many others all want to believe Bush attacked the twin towers just like DumbAsCoal does. These people are wacko's!!!!!

Check out the lies on this link

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=191

I never said Bush attacked the twin towers. I simply stated that there were many unanswered questions, that would be great to have answers to. My feeling is that the government knew about the attack and purposefully allowed it to happen. And maybe, just maybe helped the buildings down.

My logic is, the same reason that we did nothing to prevent pearl harbor. They wanted in on a war. This time though, it wasn't a war we should have been in on.

Independent Harry

10-02-2008, 01:25 AM

Do you also believe that AIDS was created by elements of the white race to exterminate the Black race??? :confused:

Curious as to why you're asking that question, it has nothing to do with anything we are talking about. But again, when faced with fact, you often revert to inane bullshit.

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 01:38 AM

Curious as to why you're asking that question, it has nothing to do with anything we are talking about. But again, when faced with fact, you often revert to inane bullshit.BlackAsCoal posted the below post....I was curious if he believed this other rediculous conspiracy theory. You have a problem seeing the obvious harry.
Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal
... and many more SEASONED combat and civilian pilots with thousands of hours of flight time .. who don't believe the fairy-tale either

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

There also lots of scientists, engineers, and structral analysts .. but it doesn't take rocket science intelligence to recognize the fraud of 9/11 .. or that never before in the history of fires, buildings, or Man has a steel frame building EVER melted/collapsed from fire .. and it's never happened since or will it ever. It is scientifically impossible.As pointed out by Seedy in this threadOriginally Posted by SeedyROM
DumbAsCoal thinks 9/11 was an inside job!! Fools like this have no credibility.

IndependentHarry, Bairdi, Sirmoby StefanSegan and many others all want to believe Bush attacked the twin towers just like DumbAsCoal does. These people are wacko's!!!!!

Check out the lies on this link

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=191

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 05:09 AM

Get your facts straight dude. I have never taken the position that the twin towers was an inside job.

LOL ,just playing games, I know you think they are lunatics! The others are legit, not sure about Sirmoby, I added his name for sport too. Sorry!!

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 05:11 AM

BlackAsCoal posted the below post....I was curious if he believed this other rediculous conspiracy theory. You have a problem seeing the obvious harry.
As pointed out by Seedy in this thread

Also add BettyBlowTorch and possibly Ladymod to the CT Nutters list.

Crazy bunch we have here!!

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 11:47 AM

Also add BettyBlowTorch and possibly Ladymod to the CT Nutters list.

Crazy bunch we have here!!Liberals are gulible idiots....If we could read a list of the things they believe, we would probably die laughing. :lmao2:

bairdi

10-02-2008, 01:01 PM

Liberals are gulible idiots....If we could read a list of the things they believe, we would probably die laughing. :lmao2:
This coming from someone who embraces the far right reactionary wacko wing of conservative philosophy. Take it from me, we gullible idiots think you are a fucking nutcase. :crazzy:

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 01:27 PM

This coming from someone who embraces the far right reactionary wacko wing of conservative philosophy. Take it from me, we gullible idiots think you are a fucking nutcase. :crazzy:Bullshit...I embrace no such "far right reactionary wacko wing of conservative philosophy" and you know it. My voting record has been posted all over this forum.

You're attempting to do what marxists do, which is spread rumors and lies of their enemies in an effort to gain public support, you stupid little pussy liberal bitch.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 01:35 PM

Do you also believe that AIDS was created by elements of the white race to exterminate the Black race??? :confused:

Proof positive that most Americans are idiots and we deserve the coming fall.

I posted a list of very serious people who have a long history of patriotism, courage, credential, and experience that is absolutely unchallenged. They are the aviation cream of the crop.

Instead of questioning why such men would not believe the 9/11 story .. you come back with children-speak. Is that was passes as clever?

You people are children and don't possess the wisdom or courage to question.

Please continue with your impersination of a clown.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 02:03 PM

This coming from someone who embraces the far right reactionary wacko wing of conservative philosophy. Take it from me, we gullible idiots think you are a fucking nutcase. :crazzy:

There is good news in all of this. These children are shrinking .. shrinking fast.

Their ideology has failed and the so-called conservative movement is over. What you're hearing are the death throes of a miserably failed and dying ideology. Identification with the Republican Party continues to shrink .. and the prospects for the future don't look good as their base also continues to shrink.

Christian conservatives are almost a non-entity these days and their base of married white christians now make up less than half of all voters in the United States and less than one fifth of voters under the age of 30. The proportion of married white Christians among voters under the age of 30 has plummeted from almost 80 percent in the 1950s to less than 20 percent in the first decade of the 21st century.

America's changing demographics means the Republican Party may become the Whigs.

Added to their shrinking base is the knowledge that their ideology has failed .. laid bare before the world in all its glorious ignorance.

In this upcoming election, not only will they lose the White House, but republicans are going to get their asses pummeled in House and Senate races.

Don't get too frustrated with the idiots here .. this my brother is all comedy. They do not have the capacity to think for themselves. If anyone can be made to believe that John (Phil Gramm) McCain and Sarah Palin are serious candidates who should be considered to lead this country, they are just simply stupid .. it's just that simple.

There is good news.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 02:10 PM

Bullshit...I embrace no such "far right reactionary wacko wing of conservative philosophy" and you know it. My voting record has been posted all over this forum.

You're attempting to do what marxists do, which is spread rumors and lies of their enemies in an effort to gain public support, you stupid little pussy liberal bitch.

You can call yourself an astronaut .. doesn't make you one.

What you've been posting is nothing short of far right-wing reactionary bullshit. Very little of what I've read from you takes the same critical approach to the right as it does to the left .. in fact, nothing I've read from you comes close to serious analysis.

You spout "marxists" and "little pussy liberal bitch" straight out of the right-wing ass .. like a true goosestepper.

Doesn't take rocket science intelligence to recognize the obvious.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 02:21 PM

I never said Bush attacked the twin towers. I simply stated that there were many unanswered questions, that would be great to have answers to. My feeling is that the government knew about the attack and purposefully allowed it to happen. And maybe, just maybe helped the buildings down.

My logic is, the same reason that we did nothing to prevent pearl harbor. They wanted in on a war. This time though, it wasn't a war we should have been in on.

The problem with that is that you can't allow scientific impossibilties to just happen. You can't "not prevent" the impossible from happening .. three times in the same day. You cannot reproduce steel frame structures being weakened by fire, falling in a uniform pattern at free fall speed, then falling into its own footprint. You can't "allow" that to happen because it is scientifically impossible to happen .. which is why it has NEVER happened before.

You can't "not prevent" the impossibility of someone who can't fly a Cessna to make flight manuevers that combat pilots can't make.

9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor" the neocons wanted (aptly named because of the deception of the first Pearl Harbor).

Independent Harry

10-02-2008, 02:28 PM

The problem with that is that you can't allow scientific impossibilties to just happen. You can't "not prevent" the impossible from happening .. three times in the same day. You cannot reproduce steel frame structures being weakened by fire, falling in a uniform pattern at free fall speed, then falling into its own footprint. You can't "allow" that to happen because it is scientifically impossible to happen .. which is why it has NEVER happened before.

You can't "not prevent" the impossibility of someone who can't fly a Cessna to make flight manuevers that combat pilots can't make.

9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor" the neocons wanted (aptly named because of the deception of the first Pearl Harbor).

The problem is, the horror has faded from most people's minds, and the time for a real investigation is gone. In another 20 years, someone will pull the same thing beacuse we forgot..

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 02:43 PM

You can call yourself an astronaut .. doesn't make you one.

What you've been posting is nothing short of far right-wing reactionary bullshit. Very little of what I've read from you takes the same critical approach to the right as it does to the left .. in fact, nothing I've read from you comes close to serious analysis.

You spout "marxists" and "little pussy liberal bitch" straight out of the right-wing ass .. like a true goosestepper.

Doesn't take rocket science intelligence to recognize the obvious.So let's get this straight....You think that you must be a "far right-wing reactionary" to believe Obama is a marxist and that liberals are pussy bitches....BAC, are you by any chance a closet liberal?....You sound like you may have some of the left wing bullshit beliefs that most the liberals around here, have programed into them. Blacks normally aren't liberal, just democrats without liberal baggage, thinking that the democrat party wants to better their lives through wealth redistribution and they're all for that along with the guilt ridden white liberals....Remember the little bird who's buried in shit who gets pulled out and eatin by the fox? Sometimes a "savior" can be your worst enemy....Believe me BAC, you're not as smart as you think you are...Wise up.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 02:46 PM

The problem is, the horror has faded from most people's minds, and the time for a real investigation is gone. In another 20 years, someone will pull the same thing beacuse we forgot..

Not because we forgot, but because we are cowards.

The 9/11 story is scientifically and logically impossible .. carried out by an administration steeped in lies and deciet .. yet, like cowards, we do nothing .. afraid to even speak the obvious truth.

Brings to mind another history .. the Reichstag Fire .. and Germans, cowardly afraid to speak the obvious truth .. only this time the truth is more obvious, more glaring.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 02:50 PM

So let's get this straight....You think that you must be a "far right-wing reactionary" to believe Obama is a marxist and that liberals are pussy bitches....BAC, are you by any chance a closet liberal?....You sound like you may have some of the left wing bullshit beliefs that most the liberals around here, have programed into them. Blacks normally aren't liberal, just democrats without liberal baggage, thinking that the democrat party wants to better their lives through wealth redistribution and they're all for that along with the guilt ridden white liberals....Remember the little bird who's buried in shit who gets pulled out and eatin by the fox? Sometimes a "savior" can be your worst enemy....Believe me BAC, you're not as smart as you think you are...Wise up.

More child-speak.

Come back disguised as an adult .. see if you can converse intelligently or at least challenge what is said like you actually have a point .. other than your display of children's language.

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 02:59 PM

More child-speak.

Come back disguised as an adult .. see if you can converse intelligently or at least challenge what is said like you actually have a point .. other than your display of children's language.If you wanna play with the big boys, you're gonna hafta do better than this.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 03:13 PM

If you wanna play with the big boys, you're gonna hafta do better than this.

"Big boys" ??? .. Big children perhaps.

Two questions ...

Do you EVER address what is actually being said?

Are you under ANY illusion that I need to be validated by Hog Trash?

You clowns on the right have yet to address anything of substance even though I put all kinds of meat on the table for anyone with an opposing perspective .. and .. this is critical .. a brain to address.

.. get real dude .. you people are stupid as fuck.

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 03:40 PM

Do you EVER address what is actually being said?

No, I'm afraid I did not "address what is actually being said". Conspiracies might be OK discussion if it wasn't election time with extreme consequences of the outcome.

bairdi

10-02-2008, 03:55 PM

No, I'm afraid I did not "address what is actually being said". Conspiracies might be OK discussion if it wasn't election time with extreme consequences of the outcome.
Do you realize how completely freakin depraved this comment sounds in light of the fact that you consider Sarah Palin the individual best suited to run this country?

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 04:13 PM

No, I'm afraid I did not "address what is actually being said". Conspiracies might be OK discussion if it wasn't election time with extreme consequences of the outcome.

Please spare me the false attempt at seriousness.

You don't address serious questions about the election..

I asked you how you reconcile Phil Gramm with your vote for McCain and all your rhetoric about how "independent" you are and the "extreme consequences" of this election.

I said Phil Gramm is more responsible for the subprime meltdown than any human on the planet.

You ran away from it.

How do you recognize the consequences, yet support the very elements that brought about our dire straits.

You addressed "conspiracies" when you thought you could just Karl Rove them away with buffoonish schoolyard "insults" .. now that I've exposed that you don't have a clue what you're talking about and there are many very serious patriotic, experienced, and credentialed Americans who hold the same perspective I do .. all of a sudden it's beneath you to address it.

You don't address these issues because you don't have the ability to address them. The mindfuck that keeps your brain from working is your miserably failed ideology.

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:14 PM

Liberals are gulible idiots....If we could read a list of the things they believe, we would probably die laughing. :lmao2:

These people are a bunch of loonies. The get thier news from liars that programmed to believe thier favorite network and online news sources never lie. It is hillarious to watch them carry on like no one lies but the other side. They don't even understand how wrong they are at times. Gullible indeed!!!

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 04:20 PM

These people are a bunch of loonies. The get thier news from liars that programmed to believe thier favorite network and online news sources never lie. It is hillarious to watch them carry on like no one lies but the other side. They don't even understand how wrong they are at times. Gullible indeed!!!

YET, none of you geniuses have taken on Col. Bowman. Not one of you.

Is he and the many other cream of the crop pilots who don't believe the fairy tale "loonies?"

Did they get their information from their favorite network and online news sources?

Do you think they may have a clue about flying?

You people are stupid as fuck and all you have presented on this site is simpleton "insults" that aren't even clever.

None of you have actually debated anything.

You people are stupid as fuck.

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:21 PM

There is good news in all of this. These children are shrinking .. shrinking fast.

Their ideology has failed and the so-called conservative movement is over. What you're hearing are the death throes of a miserably failed and dying ideology. Identification with the Republican Party continues to shrink .. and the prospects for the future don't look good as their base also continues to shrink.

Christian conservatives are almost a non-entity these days and their base of married white christians now make up less than half of all voters in the United States and less than one fifth of voters under the age of 30. The proportion of married white Christians among voters under the age of 30 has plummeted from almost 80 percent in the 1950s to less than 20 percent in the first decade of the 21st century.

America's changing demographics means the Republican Party may become the Whigs.

Added to their shrinking base is the knowledge that their ideology has failed .. laid bare before the world in all its glorious ignorance.

In this upcoming election, not only will they lose the White House, but republicans are going to get their asses pummeled in House and Senate races.

Don't get too frustrated with the idiots here .. this my brother is all comedy. They do not have the capacity to think for themselves. If anyone can be made to believe that John (Phil Gramm) McCain and Sarah Palin are serious candidates who should be considered to lead this country, they are just simply stupid .. it's just that simple.

There is good news.

Wrong again, the so called Christian conservatives are far stronger than you care to fabricate. Most people keep religion out of politics, you see conspiracy and you don't see the truth when your judgement is clouded. Most people are the same now as they were a decade ago, dems included. Both parties are morally corrupt...........you refuse to see the corruption..............which makes you the Asshat of the Dem Clowns. NLP programming has lowered you into the Clown Pit!

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:26 PM

The problem with that is that you can't allow scientific impossibilties to just happen. You can't "not prevent" the impossible from happening .. three times in the same day. You cannot reproduce steel frame structures being weakened by fire, falling in a uniform pattern at free fall speed, then falling into its own footprint. You can't "allow" that to happen because it is scientifically impossible to happen .. which is why it has NEVER happened before.

You can't "not prevent" the impossibility of someone who can't fly a Cessna to make flight manuevers that combat pilots can't make.

9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor" the neocons wanted (aptly named because of the deception of the first Pearl Harbor).

LOL, Show me proof that engineers crashed a Boing 767 into the same type of structure? You can't. Till you can, all you have is false infrormation created by wackos to sell to wackos like you and IHarry!! Commercial jets can manuever quite well at high speed, I'm a pilot, I know far more about than you ever will. Flying into the pentagon as shown is possible, NLP programming convinced you otherwise. An 800,000 pound jet change all that you claim is not possible. You lack the education to see beyond the NLP.

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:31 PM

Please spare me the false attempt at seriousness.

You don't address serious questions about the election..

I asked you how you reconcile Phil Gramm with your vote for McCain and all your rhetoric about how "independent" you are and the "extreme consequences" of this election.

I said Phil Gramm is more responsible for the subprime meltdown than any human on the planet.

You ran away from it.

How do you recognize the consequences, yet support the very elements that brought about our dire straits.

You addressed "conspiracies" when you thought you could just Karl Rove them away with buffoonish schoolyard "insults" .. now that I've exposed that you don't have a clue what you're talking about and there are many very serious patriotic, experienced, and credentialed Americans who hold the same perspective I do .. all of a sudden it's beneath you to address it.

You don't address these issues because you don't have the ability to address them. The mindfuck that keeps your brain from working is your miserably failed ideology.

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are long term losers who are equally responsible for the meltdown along with Grahma. Do you deny it???? Bill Clinton and Bush also share the blame. I'm beginning to think you are Dem??

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:34 PM

YET, none of you geniuses have taken on Col. Bowman. Not one of you.

Is he and the many other cream of the crop pilots who don't believe the fairy tale "loonies?"

Did they get their information from their favorite network and online news sources?

Do you think they may have a clue about flying?

You people are stupid as fuck and all you have presented on this site is simpleton "insults" that aren't even clever.

None of you have actually debated anything.

You people are stupid as fuck.

Dumb ass moron, you bought the conspiracy lies. What a dope.

Maybe I should load more dirt on you from other websites. You are a total lunatic. Does your employer in Atlanta know what a lunatic you are ? :lmao2:

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:39 PM

Proof positive that most Americans are idiots and we deserve the coming fall.

I posted a list of very serious people who have a long history of patriotism, courage, credential, and experience that is absolutely unchallenged. They are the aviation cream of the crop.

Instead of questioning why such men would not believe the 9/11 story .. you come back with children-speak. Is that was passes as clever?

You people are children and don't possess the wisdom or courage to question.

Please continue with your impersination of a clown.

You are such a wacko, the aviation cream of what crop, trailor park trash??

WACKO!!! You have no clue about you are talking about. They wrote the fantasy in such a way that suckers would take the bait. These pilots have no idea of how manueverable a commercial jet can be flown. They submit no proof of agreesvie aerial pilot training, no combat training in 767's, no proof they ever tried to fly a jet in the manner the terrorists flew on 9/11. Simulator results have been re-created and successfully flown by honest pilots. You CT Nutters have been manipulated!!!

Independent Harry

10-02-2008, 04:49 PM

Dumb ass moron, you bought the conspiracy lies. What a dope.

Maybe I should load more dirt on you from other websites. You are a total lunatic. Does your employer in Atlanta know what a lunatic you are ? :lmao2:

I would warn you, threats like that are taken quite seriously here, trying to harm someone's career. That is a bannable offense for a first time offense...
Not a mod, but I've seen it happen before.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 04:49 PM

Wrong again, the so called Christian conservatives are far stronger than you care to fabricate. Most people keep religion out of politics, you see conspiracy and you don't see the truth when your judgement is clouded. Most people are the same now as they were a decade ago, dems included. Both parties are morally corrupt...........you refuse to see the corruption..............which makes you the Asshat of the Dem Clowns. NLP programming has lowered you into the Clown Pit!

On second thought, perhaps you should stick with the schoolyard .. something you know. You don't even have the intelligence to research your bullshit before it comes out of your mouth.

WARNING: be careful, there are graphs and some multi-sylaballed words contained within the following ...

Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans

THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING REPUBLICAN BASE
Societal trends reshaping the American electorate
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=AIA2008050101

Besides the empirical evidence of the shrinking republican base, there is the knowledge that its base of all-white people is no longer the majority in several states, including California and Texas, and stand on the verge of no longer being the majority in several more.

In fact, whites will no longer be the majority population in America by 2042, 8 years earlier than previously predicted.

Minorities set to be US majority
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7559996.stm

Republicans lack the ability to adapt to changing environments and a dynamic world.

Your posts are decidedly unlearned.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 04:57 PM

Dumb ass moron, you bought the conspiracy lies. What a dope.

Maybe I should load more dirt on you from other websites. You are a total lunatic. Does your employer in Atlanta know what a lunatic you are ? :lmao2:

:lmao2:

PLEASE, feel free to come to Atlanta and find out what my employer knows.

PLEASE do by all means.

Besides my employer, who pays me handsomely, I have my own business, where I am my employer.

Feel free to talk to my previous employer, the US Congress.

:lmao2:

I'm also a freelance writer, so I have lots of "employers" who publish my perspectives.

You are an idiot and because you are an idiot .. you don't have the ability to debate like an adult.

However, that makes me happy. I like the opposition dumb.

:lmao2:

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 04:58 PM

I would warn you, threats like that are taken quite seriously here, trying to harm someone's career. That is a bannable offense for a first time offense...
Not a mod, but I've seen it happen before.

I was asking a question? More conspiracy nonsense:lmao2:

Showing you guys what a nutjob thinks is no problem, I see no rules regarding humiliating a nutjob is not allowed. I'm having fun!!

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 05:01 PM

On second thought, perhaps you should stick with the schoolyard .. something you know. You don't even have the intelligence to research your bullshit before it comes out of your mouth.

WARNING: be careful, there are graphs and some multi-sylaballed words contained within the following ...

Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans

THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING REPUBLICAN BASE
Societal trends reshaping the American electorate
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=AIA2008050101

Besides the empirical evidence of the shrinking republican base, there is the knowledge that its base of all-white people is no longer the majority in several states, including California and Texas, and stand on the verge of no longer being the majority in several more.

In fact, whites will no longer be the majority population in America by 2042, 8 years earlier than previously predicted.

Minorities set to be US majority
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7559996.stm

Republicans lack the ability to adapt to changing environments and a dynamic world.

Your posts are decidedly unlearned.

NOT A REPUBLICAN. The data is debateable and has some common flaws that polls and surveys have in common with empiracle data.

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 05:02 PM

:lmao2:

PLEASE, feel free to come to Atlanta and find out what my employer knows.

PLEASE do by all means.

Besides my employer, who pays me handsomely, I have my own business, where I am my employer.

Feel free to talk to my previous employer, the US Congress.

:lmao2:

I'm also a freelance writer, so I have lots of "employers" who publish my perspectives.

You are an idiot and because you are an idiot .. you don't have the ability to debate like an adult.

However, that makes me happy. I like the opposition dumb.

:lmao2:
The jokes on you fool!!! Or is it, lol!!!!

I debate quite well. Maybe you should stick to being honest?

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 05:04 PM

I was asking a question? More conspiracy nonsense:lmao2:

Showing you guys what a nutjob thinks is no problem, I see no rules regarding humiliating a nutjob is not allowed. I'm having fun!!

You're having fun BEING humiliated. ;)

It's called sadomasicism

In case you missed it, I humiliated you once again with proof that the republican base is shrinking as is the influence of so-called christian conservatives .. thus, you're a knucklehaed who doesn't know what he's talking about .. AGAIN.

Didn't want you to miss the thrill.

:lmao2:

What a dummy .. ;)

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 05:08 PM

The jokes on you fool!!! Or is it, lol!!!!

I debate quite well. Maybe you should stick to being honest?

You haven't debated a single thing yet.

All you have in silly ass schoolyard child-speak. Your every post is filled with it.

You're an idiot who is EASILY made to look like a fool.

Where is the "A" team. Surely there are right-wingers on this site who can actually debate an issue

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 05:18 PM

... and many more SEASONED combat and civilian pilots with thousands of hours of flight time .. who don't believe the fairy-tale either

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

There also lots of scientists, engineers, and structral analysts .. but it doesn't take rocket science intelligence to recognize the fraud of 9/11 .. or that never before in the history of fires, buildings, or Man has a steel frame building EVER melted/collapsed from fire .. and it's never happened since or will it ever. It is scientifically impossible.
;)

I'm from GA, still have a home there. Take your wacko black ass up to Cartersville and hire a military pilot from Phoenix Aviation............a govt. contractor that flys training missions against military jets in combat manuever scenarios. The contract is setup so the military can train pilots to pursue enemy aircraft that fly with the transponder turned off. The pilots fly with thier radar off to hone thier skills. Even with radar on, the biz jets are highly manueverable and quite comparable to fighter jets. Biz jets are slower sure, but I can assure you fighter jets make few aggressive turns in actual combat due to mach limitations and G factors to name a few. So this training very valueable. I know one of the pilots.......Derek Miller, not sure if he still works there, but they will verfiy he did.

Hire the company to fly some combat simulations over the ocean. The G4's and G5's they own can simulate a 767's manuevers. Big jets like the 767 may be sluggish but I can assure you a pilot could fly one into the Pentagon. Just because a group of 9/11 wacko pilots says one thing does no erase the truth that jets can be flown into buildings at ground level. Col. Bowman is a wacko loser sellout who lives in the unAmerican, unPatriotic blackmarket world of deception, misinformation and disinformation!!!

Fly with a real pilot and then decide what is truth and what is fiction.

Hog Trash

10-02-2008, 05:21 PM

Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans

THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING REPUBLICAN BASE

Minorities set to be US majority

Republicans lack the ability to adapt to changing environments and a dynamic world.
Without clicking the links I can confidently say from reading the heading that this is totally inaccurate.

Republicans are not abandoning the republican party. The republican party has abandoned the conservatives.

Conservatives are not switching to the democrat party and liberalism, but are reclassifying themselves as independents which some non-liberal democrats are also doing.

The strength and majority of the democrat party comes from the minorities and the young, of which many with age and wisdom abandon after a dose of the real world.

And concerning your Minorities set to be US majority subject, I was called a racist for posting this link.

Do you believe you will get the same reaction....10 to 1 the guilt ridden liberals will find no problem with it.

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 05:23 PM

You're having fun BEING humiliated. ;)

It's called sadomasicism

In case you missed it, I humiliated you once again with proof that the republican base is shrinking as is the influence of so-called christian conservatives .. thus, you're a knucklehaed who doesn't know what he's talking about .. AGAIN.

Didn't want you to miss the thrill.

:lmao2:

What a dummy .. ;)

Debateable data, the votes on November 3rd will erase the so called empiracle evidence. I'm no republican. Are you a democrat, I've asked twice and all I see is more Obama praise?

fyi I don't doubt that blacks and whites will be a minority to hispanics, thanks to degenerates in DC.

You are easily humiliated, you do it to yourself so well. Several websites have dirt on you. Your a fucking joke, get over it nutjob!!!!

bairdi

10-02-2008, 05:44 PM

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 06:16 PM

I'm from GA, still have a home there. Take your wacko black ass up to Cartersville and hire a military pilot from Phoenix Aviation............a govt. contractor that flys training missions against military jets in combat manuever scenarios. The contract is setup so the military can train pilots to pursue enemy aircraft that fly with the transponder turned off. The pilots fly with thier radar off to hone thier skills. Even with radar on, the biz jets are highly manueverable and quite comparable to fighter jets. Biz jets are slower sure, but I can assure you fighter jets make few aggressive turns in actual combat due to mach limitations and G factors to name a few. So this training very valueable. I know one of the pilots.......Derek Miller, not sure if he still works there, but they will verfiy he did.

Hire the company to fly some combat simulations over the ocean. The G4's and G5's they own can simulate a 767's manuevers. Big jets like the 767 may be sluggish but I can assure you a pilot could fly one into the Pentagon. Just because a group of 9/11 wacko pilots says one thing does no erase the truth that jets can be flown into buildings at ground level. Col. Bowman is a wacko loser sellout who lives in the unAmerican, unPatriotic blackmarket world of deception, misinformation and disinformation!!!

Fly with a real pilot and then decide what is truth and what is fiction.

Everyone who has a question is an unamerican and unpatriotic in the world you live in. .. Amazing

I think I've heard you use the word "freedom" in some of your mindless rants. Yet, because I have a different perspective you would like to notify my employer. Nazis thought exactly as you do.

Col. Bowman and the other pilots have unquestioned loyalty and have put their lives on the line proving that .. but because they have questions based on their irrefutable knowledge and experience you call them "losers and sellouts." How many combat missions have you flown?

"fly with a real pilot and decide" .. You have no idea how dumb that is.

Dude, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm real commfortable with you just the way you are.

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 06:17 PM

How Bush Destroyed the Republican Party
A president driven by ideology. A Congress rife with corruption. A political party hellbent on a "permanent majority." A leading scholar examines the radicals who hijacked the GOP — and wrecked the longest conservative ascendancy in American history

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/22665562/how_bush_destroyed_the_republican_party/print

You know the only way Obama is going to win is if his neocon and neolibs buddies can keep pushing the idea that Obama is not thug he's been documented as. Obama's staff are using the same tactics that Bush and Karl Rove used to beat Al Gore. It may work, but it ain't over yet. There are far superior blackmen and whites who could beat Obama. Problem is most black me would not loot the Treasury with $932 million in bribes to buy votes and gain popularity. Obama will tax this country deeper into recession, not just the rich. This fool will tax everyone once elected, Obama will flip flop and become the Sheriff of Nottingham!!

SeedyROM

10-02-2008, 06:39 PM

Everyone who has a question is an unamerican and unpatriotic in the world you live in. .. Amazing

I think I've heard you use the word "freedom" in some of your mindless rants. Yet, because I have a different perspective you would like to notify my employer. Nazis thought exactly as you do.

Col. Bowman and the other pilots have unquestioned loyalty and have put their lives on the line proving that .. but because they have questions based on their irrefutable knowledge and experience you call them "losers and sellouts." How many combat missions have you flown?

"fly with a real pilot and decide" .. You have no idea how dumb that is.

Dude, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm real commfortable with you just the way you are.

Bowman put his life on the line, LOL. Are the Assassins out to get him, if so, what are thier names? Where do these mysterious assassins live? Who hired them? Bowman put his life on the line my ass!! Bowman is a loser and sellout, he's a hack who is in it for $CASH$!! Stop suggesting this man is on the run or in fear of his life. If the Fed or military wanted him dead, it would be done, fact is he is no threat to anyone except people who buy the videos he profits from.

I question the patriotism of a few people like Bowman and his wacko buddies and you pretend I'm saying it applies to anyone who disagrees with me. No I never went beyond this thread, you misundersood just as you missed my point with the Clintons. Never used "Freedom", again you are confusing facts and you are confusing me with someone else. You'll have to do better than that. Maybe you can get some debate tips from your 16 year old daughter. You are so wrong........you and your stereotypes are nothing more than hate and spite.

Go hire a biz jet pilot, get a real perspective of what jets can do with aggressive manuevers. I can tell from the lack of response that you've never flown in such an aircraft nor a twin engine flying aerial manuevers. PDK has pilots too. Notice how I refraim from judging you and refraim from suggesting you can't afford to hire a jet. Had the situation been reversed you would have no doubt attacked me with such hate and judgemental nonsense, no doubt you'd say I probably can't afford to fly. But I don't go that route for a reason you would not understand. You have no idea how foolish your response really was. Fly with a real pilot will open your eyes as to how manueverable jets and twin props really are.

You cannot paint someone with stereotypes and convince me you are right. I've seen it before, it always fails. Your hate, anger and apathy is quite common with CTNutters.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 07:52 PM

Bowman put his life on the line, LOL. Are the Assassins out to get him, if so, what are thier names? Where do these mysterious assassins live? Who hired them? Bowman put his life on the line my ass!! Bowman is a loser and sellout, he's a hack who is in it for $CASH$!! Stop suggesting this man is on the run or in fear of his life. If the Fed or military wanted him dead, it would be done, fact is he is no threat to anyone except people who buy the videos he profits from.

I question the patriotism of a few people like Bowman and his wacko buddies and you pretend I'm saying it applies to anyone who disagrees with me. No I never went beyond this thread, you misundersood just as you missed my point with the Clintons. Never used "Freedom", again you are confusing facts and you are confusing me with someone else. You'll have to do better than that. Maybe you can get some debate tips from your 16 year old daughter. You are so wrong........you and your stereotypes are nothing more than hate and spite.

Go hire a biz jet pilot, get a real perspective of what jets can do with aggressive manuevers. I can tell from the lack of response that you've never flown in such an aircraft nor a twin engine flying aerial manuevers. PDK has pilots too. Notice how I refraim from judging you and refraim from suggesting you can't afford to hire a jet. Had the situation been reversed you would have no doubt attacked me with such hate and judgemental nonsense, no doubt you'd say I probably can't afford to fly. But I don't go that route for a reason you would not understand. You have no idea how foolish your response really was. Fly with a real pilot will open your eyes as to how manueverable jets and twin props really are.

You cannot paint someone with stereotypes and convince me you are right. I've seen it before, it always fails. Your hate, anger and apathy is quite common with CTNutters.

Bowman flew 101 combat missions.

How many have you flown?

Did you notice the military records of the pilots? .. thousands of combat missions.

Not trying to convince you of anything .. just pointing out the obvious.

BlackAsCoal

10-02-2008, 07:54 PM

You know the only way Obama is going to win is if his neocon and neolibs buddies can keep pushing the idea that Obama is not thug he's been documented as. Obama's staff are using the same tactics that Bush and Karl Rove used to beat Al Gore. It may work, but it ain't over yet. There are far superior blackmen and whites who could beat Obama. Problem is most black me would not loot the Treasury with $932 million in bribes to buy votes and gain popularity. Obama will tax this country deeper into recession, not just the rich. This fool will tax everyone once elected, Obama will flip flop and become the Sheriff of Nottingham!!

You haven't been keeping up .. the Mccain campaign is sinking and Obama is expanding his lead daily.

.. just pointing out the obvious

SeedyROM

10-03-2008, 05:06 AM

That's just some liberal communist Chris Matthews nonsense, remember?

LOL, don't forget the BL experts Hannity relies on too. Never thought of Matthews as a communist, more of a wimpy bleach blond ex failed surfer dude. Does he keep fresh lemons in the bathroom? :lmao2:

SeedyROM

10-03-2008, 05:13 AM

I asked you how you reconcile Phil Gramm with your vote for McCain and all your rhetoric about how "independent" you are and the "extreme consequences" of this election.

I said Phil Gramm is more responsible for the subprime meltdown than any human on the planet.

You do realize Senators Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are equal in blame for the mortgage meltdown? Right? Next to Obama, these to liberal sellouts took in more contributions from Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac than the rest of the crooks in the Financial Services committee. Gramm is guilty, but these two fools above are very guilty.

SeedyROM

10-03-2008, 05:17 AM

You haven't been keeping up .. the Mccain campaign is sinking and Obama is expanding his lead daily.

.. just pointing out the obvious

Polls come and go, election day will determine the results. I see no real expansion, unless you believe the polls are that reliable. I see people fearing both men, but I see Obama more of a wild card due to the fact that people can change thier minds on a dime.

What is obvious is that we have a black man being manipulated by the same people that pull Bushes strings and the media refuse to share it with Americans.

BlackAsCoal

10-03-2008, 03:09 PM

Polls come and go, election day will determine the results. I see no real expansion, unless you believe the polls are that reliable. I see people fearing both men, but I see Obama more of a wild card due to the fact that people can change thier minds on a dime.

What is obvious is that we have a black man being manipulated by the same people that pull Bushes strings and the media refuse to share it with Americans.

I agree that Obama is being manipulated by the same forces that manipulated Bush, and I agree that polls come and go, but this economy is not going to heat up in less than a month .. and voters blame republicans and McCain, who supported all Bush economic policies, for the recession.

.. and frankly, McCain does not look healthy. The foreign policy debate was his best shot at out debating Obama, he didn't do it. He's starting to look like a deflated old man.

Obama will win .. but I'm not sure America will.

BlackAsCoal

10-03-2008, 03:33 PM

You do realize Senators Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are equal in blame for the mortgage meltdown? Right? Next to Obama, these to liberal sellouts took in more contributions from Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac than the rest of the crooks in the Financial Services committee. Gramm is guilty, but these two fools above are very guilty.

I in no way attempt to make excuses for democrats of their complicity in this, the Iraq war, Bush's attacks of civil liberties, or anyother evil.

However, no one, absolutely nobody, had a bigger role in the subprime meltdown than Phil Gramm. In 2000, while chriman of the Senate Banking Comittee, Gramm slipped in a 262 page into a mass pass spending measure. His legislation, written with the help of financial industry lobbyists, essentially removed financial products called swaps from any regulation or oversight.

Credit default swaps are at the heart of the subprime meltdown because they have enabled large financial institutions to turn risky loans into risky securities that could be packaged and sold to other institutions. Today there is a 62 trillion dollar swap market that is rocking the American economy.

Gramm left the Senate and went to work at UBS, which also suffered tremendous losses.

Gramm calls Americans worried about the economy, "whiners."

And John McCain thinks this bozo would make a good Treasury Secretary.

SeedyROM

10-07-2008, 06:13 PM

I have no problem with you holding on to those instincts and any hope you may have. Hopefully I'm wrong .. but I'm not ,, and the evidence that I'm not is everywhere hiding in plain sight.

FISA
Bailout
WAR
Israel
Iraq
Iran
... just to name a few

Research it, FISA, Telecom Immunity, SSI, War and even taxes. All 4 plus many more are flip flopper issues. Every change of party in the white house leads to a change in position on key issues. Reps were against FISA and Telecom Immunity when Clinton was president. Both parties pander and whine like children in competition to the other party. Small changes in policy are made but the whining continues. Politicians use these issues to bait the public, then comes flip flop. Obama has already proven he's just like the rest of the political flock, but you already know that as you communicated it before.

SeedyROM

10-07-2008, 06:23 PM

I in no way attempt to make excuses for democrats of their complicity in this, the Iraq war, Bush's attacks of civil liberties, or anyother evil.

However, no one, absolutely nobody, had a bigger role in the subprime meltdown than Phil Gramm. In 2000, while chriman of the Senate Banking Comittee, Gramm slipped in a 262 page into a mass pass spending measure. His legislation, written with the help of financial industry lobbyists, essentially removed financial products called swaps from any regulation or oversight.

Credit default swaps are at the heart of the subprime meltdown because they have enabled large financial institutions to turn risky loans into risky securities that could be packaged and sold to other institutions. Today there is a 62 trillion dollar swap market that is rocking the American economy.

Gramm left the Senate and went to work at UBS, which also suffered tremendous losses.

Gramm calls Americans worried about the economy, "whiners."

And John McCain thinks this bozo would make a good Treasury Secretary.

Agreed, Gramm was an idiot. As were Dems for supporting such a Bill. Just remember Clinton opened the door to Credit Swaps with the repeal of Glass-Stegall. the crooks could not hide the paper without the repeal. The housing failure goes back further than just Gramm. These politicians let corporations write and edit Bills up to 15 minutes prior to voting. No way these clowns knew what they were voting for, they didn't even understand the math.

Soupnazi

10-07-2008, 10:43 PM

The problem with that is that you can't allow scientific impossibilties to just happen. You can't "not prevent" the impossible from happening .. three times in the same day. You cannot reproduce steel frame structures being weakened by fire, falling in a uniform pattern at free fall speed, then falling into its own footprint. You can't "allow" that to happen because it is scientifically impossible to happen .. which is why it has NEVER happened before.

You can't "not prevent" the impossibility of someone who can't fly a Cessna to make flight manuevers that combat pilots can't make.

9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor" the neocons wanted (aptly named because of the deception of the first Pearl Harbor).
The only deception of pearl harbor was by the Japanese who took us by surprise there was no US government deception.

No pilot agrees with your take on 911 a few may claim to in order to gain their own tabloid notoriety but the fact is the hijackers had the skill to do what they did and physics prove that the buildings had to fall the way they did science provs you wrong not the so called official version of 911

Soupnazi

10-07-2008, 10:44 PM

Not because we forgot, but because we are cowards.

The 9/11 story is scientifically and logically impossible .. carried out by an administration steeped in lies and deciet .. yet, like cowards, we do nothing .. afraid to even speak the obvious truth.

Brings to mind another history .. the Reichstag Fire .. and Germans, cowardly afraid to speak the obvious truth .. only this time the truth is more obvious, more glaring.
Wrong science and logic proves 911 happened as we know it did by result of terrorists hijacking aircraft and crashing them into buildings. Science and logic prove your conspiracy fiction wrong.

Hog Trash

10-08-2008, 09:32 AM

[QUOTE Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal]
The problem with that is that you can't allow scientific impossibilties to just happen. You can't "not prevent" the impossible from happening .. three times in the same day. You cannot reproduce steel frame structures being weakened by fire, falling in a uniform pattern at free fall speed, then falling into its own footprint. You can't "allow" that to happen because it is scientifically impossible to happen .. which is why it has NEVER happened before.

You can't "not prevent" the impossibility of someone who can't fly a Cessna to make flight manuevers that combat pilots can't make.

9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor" the neocons wanted (aptly named because of the deception of the first Pearl Harbor).
[Quote Originally Posted by Hog Trash]
Do you also believe that AIDS was created by elements of the white race to exterminate the Black race???
[QUOTE Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal]
Proof positive that most Americans are idiots and we deserve the coming fall.

I posted a list of very serious people who have a long history of patriotism, courage, credential, and experience that is absolutely unchallenged. They are the aviation cream of the crop.

Instead of questioning why such men would not believe the 9/11 story .. you come back with children-speak. Is that was passes as clever?

You people are children and don't possess the wisdom or courage to question.

Please continue with your impersination of a clown.BAC.....I'm afraid I must practice your "child speak" once again since you, for some reason, didn't answer my question the first time.

Do you also believe that "AIDS" was created to exterminate minorities, gays, drug addicts or any other specific group of people???

You used your "Child speak" to avoid the question the first time....This is a simple question....Please answer and be specific.

Yes you believe? No you don't believe?....If you lie, only you will know you are a coward?!....No need to fear me, or the truth.

BlackAsCoal

10-08-2008, 07:01 PM

[QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
BAC.....I'm afraid I must practice your "child speak" once again since you, for some reason, didn't answer my question the first time.

Do you also believe that "AIDS" was created to exterminate minorities, gays, drug addicts or any other specific group of people???

You used your "Child speak" to avoid the question the first time....This is a simple question....Please answer and be specific.

Yes you believe? No you don't believe?....If you lie, only you will know you are a coward?!....No need to fear me, or the truth.

I'm fairly certain I have established that I have no fear of moronic thought or the people who use it.l

You're just a blip on my screen .. why would I "fear" a blip?

I have no idea if AIDS was created to exterminate specific groups of people. What I do know is that the US government has experimented on blacks in the past .. AND I know that PNAC has called for the development of a biological weapon of mass-murder that identifies its victims by genotype.

Feel free to pretend the US government is innocent of such behavior if you choose.

SeedyROM

10-08-2008, 07:51 PM

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I have no idea if AIDS was created to exterminate specific groups of people. What I do know is that the US government has experimented on blacks in the past .. AND I know that PNAC has called for the development of a biological weapon of mass-murder that identifies its victims by genotype.
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GenoWeapons are a fantasy for pork barrel money. Nothingmore. If such a weapon were ever invented then I'd hope someone would program it to kill neoliberals and neocons, then and only then would the USA become a better place to live.

Soupnazi

10-08-2008, 07:59 PM

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I'm fairly certain I have established that I have no fear of moronic thought or the people who use it.l

You're just a blip on my screen .. why would I "fear" a blip?

I have no idea if AIDS was created to exterminate specific groups of people. What I do know is that the US government has experimented on blacks in the past .. AND I know that PNAC has called for the development of a biological weapon of mass-murder that identifies its victims by genotype.

Feel free to pretend the US government is innocent of such behavior if you choose.
ANd just how do you know of such a weapon other than your weekly world news headlines?

Hog Trash

10-08-2008, 09:10 PM

Posted by BlackAsCoal
I have no idea if AIDS was created to exterminate specific groups of people. What I do know is that the US government has experimented on blacks in the past .. AND I know that PNAC has called for the development of a biological weapon of mass-murder that identifies its victims by genotype.

Feel free to pretend the US government is innocent of such behavior if you choose.What it sounds like you're saying is, you don't know if the government created AIDS, but you think it's a distinct possibility?

Am I correct?....You're being a little bit evasive....Please don't be afraid to answer the question honestly....I'm not your enemy.

BlackAsCoal

10-09-2008, 07:53 AM

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ANd just how do you know of such a weapon other than your weekly world news headlines?

Uhhh .. from the mouths of PNAC themselves.

Is that a credible source?

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor..."

"And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

-- from "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century," September, 2000.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

BlackAsCoal

10-09-2008, 07:57 AM

What it sounds like you're saying is, you don't know if the government created AIDS, but you think it's a distinct possibility?

Am I correct?....You're being a little bit evasive....Please don't be afraid to answer the question honestly....I'm not your enemy.

Dude .. what in the hell makes you think anyone should fear hog trash?

:lmao2:

Pardon me, but you ain't (eb) scary and you ain't (eb) that clever.

There wasn't a single fucking thing I said about your question that was "evasive."

Read it again and try to come back with a goddamn point.

Hog Trash

10-09-2008, 10:21 AM

Dude .. what in the hell makes you think anyone should fear hog trash?

:lmao2:

Pardon me, but you ain't (eb) scary and you ain't (eb) that clever.

There wasn't a single fucking thing I said about your question that was "evasive."

Read it again and try to come back with a goddamn point.So this is what I assumed you meant;What it sounds like you're saying is, you don't know if the government created AIDS, but you think it's a distinct possibility?

Am I correct?....So I'm guessing you're confirming my assumption!?......Very interesting???

I never thought you were afraid of me, but many times when people have far fetched ideas and beliefs, they fear ridicule and embarrassment if they speak them out to others.

So for what reason do you think the Government might want to exterminate the black race? Jealousy, hatred, population control? Their must be a reason you would believe such a thing?

BlackAsCoal

10-09-2008, 11:31 AM

Research it, FISA, Telecom Immunity, SSI, War and even taxes. All 4 plus many more are flip flopper issues. Every change of party in the white house leads to a change in position on key issues. Reps were against FISA and Telecom Immunity when Clinton was president. Both parties pander and whine like children in competition to the other party. Small changes in policy are made but the whining continues. Politicians use these issues to bait the public, then comes flip flop. Obama has already proven he's just like the rest of the political flock, but you already know that as you communicated it before.

What you just said is exactly my point brother.

BlackAsCoal

10-09-2008, 11:44 AM

So this is what I assumed you meant;So I'm guessing you're confirming my assumption!?......Very interesting???

I never thought you were afraid of me, but many times when people have far fetched ideas and beliefs, they fear ridicule and embarrassment if they speak them out to others.

So for what reason do you think the Government might want to exterminate the black race? Jealousy, hatred, population control? Their must be a reason you would believe such a thing?

Was "comprehension" taught in schools where you're from?

Let me walk you through this very slowly ..

I have no idea if AIDS was created to destroy specific groups of people.

That means maybe they did and maybe they didn't. I intentionally chose to explain that in all single syllable words .. except for the "maybe" .. which may be what is confusing you.

What I do know is that the US government has experimented on blacks in the past .. AND I know that PNAC has called for the development of a biological weapon of mass-murder that identifies its victims by genotype.

That means I'm aware of the Tuskegee Experiment .. and I'm aware of what PNAC has stated. I apologize for the complexity of the word "Tuskegee."

Why would I believe it to be a posssibility .. because I know American history and I know the nature of the neocon horde.

Also in my response .. which flew over your head .. I stated, "specific groups of people" .. I did not say black people .. you did, because you'd like to engage in racist bullshit. You have no clothes on Mr. emperor.

The neocons probably have the Chinese in mind, but perhaps they'd best be careful trying to genetically target black people given the fact that all humans are genetically African.

AS to your thought about fearing ridicule and "embarrassment" .. surely you're joking. Have I given the appearance of someone who gives a fuck about "ridicule and embarrassment?"

9/11 is a fraud .. do you think I give a fuck if you don't believe that?

Both Obama and McCain are weaklings and just mouthpieces for the plutocracy .. do you think I care if you don't agree?

Not only do I not care, I back up what I say and dare the knuckleheads to challenge it.

Grow up sir .. you look way to old for cartoonish thoughts.

Hog Trash

10-09-2008, 11:52 AM

Grow up sir .. you look way to old for cartoonish thoughts.I was always kinda partial to "Bugs Bunny" and his crew......"What's up doc?"

BlackAsCoal

10-09-2008, 11:55 AM

I was always kinda partial to "Bugs Bunny" and his crew......"What's up doc?"

I believe that .. and in your best interest you should stick to what you know.

Complex geopolitical issues don't quite conform to your schtick as Hog Trash.

Hog Trash

10-09-2008, 12:17 PM

I believe that .. and in your best interest you should stick to what you know.

Complex geopolitical issues don't quite conform to your schtick as Hog Trash.And Complex geopolitical issues do conform to your schtick as BlackAsCoal???

Hmmm?.....I guess a handle is much more important than I thought.

So according to you, substance counts for nothing, image is everything?

That's a very interesting concept....No wonder you're so smart....You have a cool name.

BlackAsCoal

10-09-2008, 12:49 PM

And Complex geopolitical issues do conform to your schtick as BlackAsCoal???

Hmmm?.....I guess a handle is much more important than I thought.

So according to you, substance counts for nothing, image is everything?

That's a very interesting concept....No wonder you're so smart....You have a cool name.

Once again, comprehension eludes you.

Has nothing to do with your screen name and everything to do with your cyber personality .. your "schtick" if you will.

You don't address issues seriously, honestly, or very informed. You pretend yourself to be "independent", but your right-wingedness is as transparent as glass.

Actually "blackascoal" correctly identifies my perspectives on politics and society .. as does "African-American". I identify myself as black because I have no fear of "ridicule or embarrassment" or anything a racist motherfucker might have to say .. in fact, I dare them to.

Hog Trash

10-09-2008, 05:46 PM

Once again, comprehension eludes you.

Has nothing to do with your screen name and everything to do with your cyber personality .. your "schtick" if you will.

You don't address issues seriously, honestly, or very informed. You pretend yourself to be "independent", but your right-wingedness is as transparent as glass.

Actually "blackascoal" correctly identifies my perspectives on politics and society .. as does "African-American". Well I suppose Hog Trash correctly identifies my perspectives on politics and liberals, and I don't deny being on the "right" seeing how I detest socialism, big government and high taxes.

Hog trash is and always has been self sufficiant and independent...With few exceptions, only the weak need a nanny government....We have become a nation of dependents.
I identify myself as black because I have no fear of "ridicule or embarrassment" or anything a racist motherfucker might have to say .. in fact, I dare them to. Oh my goodness!...You don't resort to violence do you?....I could never harm a flea.