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SeedyROM
09-29-2008, 07:47 PM
The poll has multiple choice options.

So Obama has something in common with African leaders who control election with criminal action to control free speech. Obama also has something in common with Hugo Chavez.

We have a right to speak our minds regardless. I see some First Amendment issues with threatening arrest nd using law enforcement to bully the public at large. I have no doubt some mistruths have been spoken but from what I've read people are being threatened for speaking the truth that the Obama hatemoungers disagree with in MO.

This abuse of the law enforcement is not Constitutional!!!!!

So is this a sign of Marxism? Controlling Free Speech in the USA???

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76308
St. Louis and Missouri Democrat sheriffs and top prosecutors are planning to go after anyone who makes false statements against Obama during his campaign. This is so one sided I can't even being to describe how wrong this agenda is," writes blogger Jim Hoft.

Hoft said Joyce and McCulloch "are threatening to bring libel charges against those who speak out falsely against Barack Obama."

Missouri blogger Doctor Bulldog commented: "Don't think they will stop with just the local radio and television stations. Oh, no. We bloggers are NEXT on the chopping block! It doesn't matter if it is the truth. It only matters if Obama deems it a lie (i.e. – something that can cause damage to his bid to be president). Basically, NO ONE is free to criticize Obama here in Missouri"!!!"

In the St. Louis Examiner, a commentary said, "Look, politicians are all about lies. It may be annoying (I find it entertaining), but that's for their opponents and good-government groups to counter – not law enforcement. … Even if the officeholders joining the 'truth squad' are nominally stepping out of their official roles in order to put on their (political) party hats and play politics, it's inappropriate. They wield too much power to use it to wag their fingers at people who say un-nice things about political hopefuls. Prosecutors and sheriffs are, after all, normally thought of as people with the clout to put their targets behind bars."



Prosecutors for Obama hunting for 'lying ads'
'Truth Squad' using sheriffs, DAs to police bias against candidate

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76308
A team of Obama-supporting prosecutors and sheriffs in Missouri is preparing to pursue legal challenges to any presidential campaign ads deemed to be false or misleading.

KMOV-TV in St. Louis reports District Attorney Robert McCulloch, a past president of the National District Attorneys Association, said that whether the ads could be attributed to an opponent's campaign itself, or another organization, "If they're not going to tell the truth, somebody's got to step up and say, 'That's not the truth. This is the truth.'"

The effort appeared to be part of a move by the Obama campaign to block advertisements to which it objects. The campaign also sent "threatening" letters to several news agencies in Pennsylvania and Ohio demanding they stop airing ads exposing Obama's gun stance, according to the National Rifle Association.

The NRA's Political Victory Fund condemned the attempt at censorship.

"Barack Obama and his campaign are terrified of the truth," said Chris W. Cox, chairman of organization. "Sen. Obama's statements and support for restricting access to firearms, raising taxes on guns and ammunition and voting against the use of firearms for self-defense in the home are a matter of public record. NRA-PVF will make sure that everyone knows of Obama's abysmal record on guns and hunting."

The Obama campaign declined to respond to a WND request for comment.

The NRA said Obama sent "cease and desist letters" to news outlets in the two states, "denouncing the ads and demanding their removal from the airwaves."

"Barack Obama would be the most anti-gun president in our nation's history. That's the truth," said Cox. "NRA-PVF has the facts on our side. No amount of running from or lying about his record and then intimidating news outlets in the hope of deceiving American gun owners and hunters is going to work. Those strong arm tactics may work in Chicago, but not in Pennsylvania and Ohio, and not as long as NRA-PVF has anything to say about it."

The warnings were from Obama lawyer Robert Bauer, who told station managers that in order to stay in the Federal Communication Commission's good graces, they should not air the ads.




http://www.infowars.com/?p=4897
In other words, if you cite Obama’s voting record or his publicly stated opinions and this rubs his “truth squads” wrong, they will sic the cops on you. “We want to keep this campaign focused on issues,” Jennifer Joyce, a Missouri prosecutor, told told KMOV (see video). “We don’t want people to get distracted. Missourians don’t want to be distracted by the divisive character attacks,” that is to say she does not want the sheep distracted by the truth — Obama is a gun-grabber who pretends to respect the Second Amendment. In addition to Joyce’s warming, Obama lawyer Robert Bauer threatened Missouri television and radio station managers that he would rat them out to the Federal Communication Commission if they dared tell the truth.

This is precisely how political campaigns are run in despotic third world countries and dictatorships that pretend to be democracies.

Independent Harry
09-29-2008, 11:18 PM
false statements are Libel and slander, they are actually against the law and are a suable offense. This isn't an Obama issue, this is something that has been around for many years.

Btw, libel and slander should be illegal, you shouldn't be able to lie about someone, cause severe reprocussions about it hurt them socially or financially and have nothing happen to you.

Hog Trash
09-30-2008, 12:16 AM
The poll has multiple choice options.

So Obama has something in common with African leaders who control election with criminal action to control free speech. Obama also has something in common with Hugo Chavez.

We have a right to speak our minds regardless. I see some First Amendment issues with threatening arrest nd using law enforcement to bully the public at large. I have no doubt some mistruths have been spoken but from what I've read people are being threatened for speaking the truth that the Obama hatemoungers disagree with in MO.

This abuse of the law enforcement is not Constitutional!!!!!

So is this a sign of Marxism? Controlling Free Speech in the USA???What else would you expect from a Marxist???

Being anti-America, he would naturaly be anti-Constitution.

The Bill Of Rights is the enemy of America haters.

He has already displayed his hatred for the 1st and 2nd amendments.

Freedom will have no place in Obama's America.

We may be witnessing our first steps towards Totalitarianism.

George Orwell was a very smart man. We should of listened.

What will 2084 look like? Total emersion in fear? Why can't people see?

SeedyROM
09-30-2008, 04:17 AM
false statements are Libel and slander, they are actually against the law and are a suable offense. This isn't an Obama issue, this is something that has been around for many years.

Btw, libel and slander should be illegal, you shouldn't be able to lie about someone, cause severe reprocussions about it hurt them socially or financially and have nothing happen to you.

I know, I've mentioned libel, slander an ddefamation before, civil crimes only .

I wouldn't mind making libel and slander illegal, at least it should be enforced in print,radio, internet and television to clean up politics. Dems lie to duck and cover from truths about Obama, Reps do the same at times. We do have laws against hazing in public which are criminal violations, rarely enfoced though.

This is an Obama issue, his name is all over the offenses in MO. Several TV networks picked up the news event.

SeedyROM
09-30-2008, 04:23 AM
What else would you expect from a Marxist???

Being anti-America, he would naturaly be anti-Constitution.

The Bill Of Rights is the enemy of America haters.

He has already displayed his hatred for the 1st and 2nd amendments.

Freedom will have no place in Obama's America.

We may be witnessing our first steps towards Totalitarianism.

George Orwell was a very smart man. We should of listened.

What will 2084 look like? Total emersion in fear? Why can't people see?

Obama does have some creepy ideas and friends. No telling what is in store if he's elected. This man has displayed hatred of the Flag and he disrespects many classes of Americans. Hates union workers too.

If a white man had said Blacks cling to guns and religion it would be racist forevermore and no black would ever forget it........a campaign killer for sure. Obama makes a Racist remark and the media and whites excuse the racism and focus on the group of people based on geography.......go figure. Maybe we have class and charcter and we are more careful and rspectful of others. Racist is racist, do whites have to be a protected class just to get respect in the USA?

SeedyROM
09-30-2008, 07:25 PM
Speakout and get a threat or be arrested. So much for the civil rights movement in MO!

I find it hillarious that truth hurts dems so badly they hide from such stories!
Freaking chickenshit pussies!!!

Better to address the truth and learn rather than turn a blind eye to civil rights violations in any state.

Hog Trash
09-30-2008, 08:21 PM
Speakout and get a threat or be arrested. So much for the civil rights movement in MO!

I find it hillarious that truth hurts dems so badly they hide from such stories!
Freaking chickenshit pussies!!!

Better to address the truth and learn rather than turn a blind eye to civil rights violations in any state.The obamanauts would just deny the accusation as right wing "lies and propaganda"....It's part of their programming....They're a pathetic bunch.

SeedyROM
10-01-2008, 05:00 AM
The obamanauts would just deny the accusation as right wing "lies and propaganda"....It's part of their programming....They're a pathetic bunch.

They probably love the fact that people are being denied thier civil rights. I see several members attacking the thread originator without even commenting on the facts in the thread. Such a mindless waste! Sirmoby, Bairdi, Asroc and a couple of others want the rest of us to repsond and answer questions, but they are afraid to address questions on Obama's faults and weaknesses. I've never seen so many who are afraid to speak thier minds and open up.

asroc
10-01-2008, 08:54 AM
What facts, this says Obama has some lawyers to fight slander/libel (truly shocking!), and the rest is some bloggers and the NRA flipping out.

Where are anybody's civil rights being violated? What's the story here?

bairdi
10-01-2008, 10:05 AM
What facts, this says Obama has some lawyers to fight slander/libel (truly shocking!), and the rest is some bloggers and the NRA flipping out.

Where are anybody's civil rights being violated? What's the story here?
I agree with you 100% asroc.

Seedy....do I have a right to say that I investigated you and that I found out that you are a Republican operative whose job is to prowl political leaning billboards and disparage Barack Obama? Do I have the right to tell everyone that you are a former member of a neo nazi group and have direct ties to David Duke? Do I have the right to say anything or everything I want about you regardless of the truth of the statement?

SeedyROM
10-01-2008, 04:34 PM
What facts, this says Obama has some lawyers to fight slander/libel (truly shocking!), and the rest is some bloggers and the NRA flipping out.

Where are anybody's civil rights being violated? What's the story here?

Stop pretending to be ignorant of the facts Asroc!

And who do Obama's lawyers represent...............they reprenet Obama.
Attacking bloggers shows how angry and unethical Obama truley is! Why should he care about bloggers and advertisers.

This racist pig is supporting lies about McCain in ads and blogs. I do not see McCain forcing law enforcement to make arrests.

Why is Obama terrified of the truth???????????

Obama is acting like one of those African Congo fuckers using police to silence free speech.

Unconstitutional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SeedyROM
10-01-2008, 04:39 PM
I agree with you 100% asroc.

Seedy....do I have a right to say that I investigated you and that I found out that you are a Republican operative whose job is to prowl political leaning billboards and disparage Barack Obama? Do I have the right to tell everyone that you are a former member of a neo nazi group and have direct ties to David Duke? Do I have the right to say anything or everything I want about you regardless of the truth of the statement?

Follow the ignorance and fakeness that Asroc spews.

Obama is violating the Constitution and all you can do is ask nonsense that has nothing to do with the violations of civil liberities.

Neither one of you can have an intelligent communication unless it suits you silly mold of politics.

SeedyROM
10-01-2008, 04:41 PM
Americans being arrested for Free Speech is not Constitutional. Maybe I should post false information on Asroc and Bairdi and get you clowns posted on the Do Not Fly List? :talktothehand:

asroc
10-01-2008, 05:11 PM
Stop pretending to be ignorant of the facts Asroc!

And who do Obama's lawyers represent...............they reprenet Obama.
Attacking bloggers shows how angry and unethical Obama truley is! Why should he care about bloggers and advertisers.

This racist pig is supporting lies about McCain in ads and blogs. I do not see McCain forcing law enforcement to make arrests.

Why is Obama terrified of the truth???????????

Obama is acting like one of those African Congo fuckers using police to silence free speech.

Unconstitutional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are slander and libel laws, I'm not sure if you know what "free speech" actually means.

If you think both campaigns and both the DNC and RNC don't have armies of lawyers at their disposal for this purpose, you're completely naive.

Please show me the ads and the actions taken against them, instead of forty question marks and exclamation points. Emotion doesn't trump lack of evidence.

SeedyROM
10-01-2008, 07:15 PM
There are slander and libel laws, I'm not sure if you know what "free speech" actually means.

If you think both campaigns and both the DNC and RNC don't have armies of lawyers at their disposal for this purpose, you're completely naive.

Please show me the ads and the actions taken against them, instead of forty question marks and exclamation points. Emotion doesn't trump lack of evidence.

I already have, Too bad you didn't load the sites and read the stories.
Google It, plenty of other stories including Obama deleting info off his own website.

Slander and libel are separate from free speech laws. I know damn well what constitutes a violation of free speech. Obama crossed a line McCain has never crossed. You love to excuse the obvious! Talk about NAIVE!!! You are a moron!!! Try reading sometime lazy asroc!

SeedyROM
10-07-2008, 05:05 PM
Video footage with reporters discussing Obama supporters asking law enforcement to target and investigate and arrest people for exercising thier civil rights.

Slander and libel are civil matters. Not a criminal offense even under MO law. Ads may violate so called MO Ethics laws, those laws do not require criminal prosecution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIenDGSAdPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo&feature=related

Bill
10-07-2008, 05:10 PM
Oh look, the constitution-hating america-hating justice-hating corporate-fellating republicans have suddenly "discovered" the constitution is important.

Whattya know - even a blind lapdog can find some catshit to eat some days.

But that don't make the corporate lapdoggies breath smell sweet.

SeedyROM
10-09-2008, 04:50 AM
Oh look, the constitution-hating america-hating justice-hating corporate-fellating republicans have suddenly "discovered" the constitution is important.

Whattya know - even a blind lapdog can find some catshit to eat some days.

But that don't make the corporate lapdoggies breath smell sweet.

What does catshit taste like Bill?