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kres24GT
01-23-2007, 12:33 PM
Entitlements shouldn't just be for the children, or the elderly, or the poor. We should all have these services provided to us free of charge courtesy of higher taxes on the evil rich. Health care, insurance (life, home, etc.), gas, transportation, food, education, retirement, internet, etc. No one should ever have to pay for these things, they should be free to all from birth to death, regardless of status. This is the way we need to do it, and let's not forget to sacrifice plenty of freedom to get to this point. Imagine how many new cell phone ring tones I could afford if I had all my necessities paid for. Frankly I don't want to live in a country where people don't have their basic needs provided to them at no cost. Call your congressman and tell him you support womb to tomb government care and you don't want partisan bickering getting in the way of the ultimate demise of freedom.

stefan segal
01-23-2007, 02:11 PM
Kres...this is worthy of you:)

It is difficult to draw a line where the government cut off enabling of the needy, as it shares responsibility with them that they become needy.

Shortly, this administration will have created more millionares and quantim times that number of financially broken families homeless with no prospect or ever recovering in the forseeable future, than any other time in the history of the world.

It will have also broken itself financially to be of help, even if it wanted to, but that is not the question presented.

Where is the line...to what degree does governmrent acknowledge its responsibility and act accordingly to those it harmed?

We understand that each child born today, come into this world owing something like 29,000 dollars as its share of the debt we incurred living our live as if a party...on their dime. How much of our responsibilities should we assume?

How much of their education should we pay for...there newly born deadbeats..should we extend to them crippling shcool loans? Or is their rating so bad already, that throwing more debt at them is a stupid exercize. when they can't possibly make payments now. But if they don't generate incomes more than minimum wage...they can never be taxed enough to make up this debt they've inherited.

Should government instead subsidize small business startups, as all indicators point to the fact that these small businesses produce more and better quality jobs than do the large corporations...who are autimating and consolidating both actions shedding more jobs than created now.

But to create compitition for the large corporations has personal consequences for the representitives of government, and risking one's own finances to better the poorer class, holds less than no attraction.

Government fixed price caps on selected items, such as medicine, health care and insurance, but those innitiatives always leaves everyone who counts...not the poor majority...bloodied and less rich than before...and so should only be resorted to in times of threatening election years.

Kres...you failed to mention that in the asrena of government handing out aid...a select few industries get mor government money in aid than do the poor...such as big oil and big farming...whereas other industries, when their bad management and failusre to move with the times crashed their business...the lower class's taxes are used to bail them out...such as chrysler corp, and the savings and loans.

When tens of millions suddenly drop out of the tax roles...what response should the now financially crippled government do? Or...might they foresee this event on the horizon and move to bail them out...as the did the savings and loans (which stole the future from the very people who supplied the money to bail them out).

It is a major consideration...and fertile ground for a continued debate.

Very interesting:)

Stefan

kres24GT
01-23-2007, 02:30 PM
The short answer to the problems you bring up in your post is simple: more government, lots more government.

On education: We must crush any semblance of competition in education. We need tog et rid of private schools (make them illegal) and have everyone government educated. Only then can we get everyone 100% dependent on government. Private schooling sometimes leads people to think for themselves, or worse yet, think they know better than government. We also must end any thing resembling school choice and make sure we never have competitive teacher's pay. We also need to throw more money, more government, and more restrictions at our current system. These practices have given us the 29th best public education system in the world. Top 30 ain't bad.

On small business: Small business must be squashed at all costs. We must pass as much anti economic freedom legislation as possible and pass federal and local compliance laws that only big business can afford. If I do business with someone I should not have to read the contract, or do my research to make an informed consumer decision. Government should pass law after law that forces business to do business the way I want them to. A great side effect of this is that it gets a lot of the choices out of the way. With only big business succeeding, there are fewer choices to make, which is the #1 benefit of big government, less freedom. We are making great strides here. Both Arthur Blank and Bernie Marcus have said they would not be able to start the Home Depot Empire with today's laws.

Corporate welfare: If a company can't make it on their own, especially if it is big business, the worst thing in the world would be for their poor business decision to cause them to go out of business. As we all know a primary function of government is to bail us out of poor choices. If I choose to have 10 kids I can't afford, it's governments duty to help me pay for them. Same thing here. Our ultimate goal is to completely kill the free market, corporate welfare is just a step in evetually reaching this dream.


I feel we can effectively rid this country of freedom in the next 25 years. I think socialized medicine and mandatory diets will be here in the next 10 years. From there we are well on our way.