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stefan segal
01-22-2007, 02:52 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070122/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us


Chavez to U.S. officials: 'Go to hell' By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 31 minutes ago



CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez told U.S. officials to "Go to hell, gringos!" and called Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice "missy" on his weekly radio and TV show Sunday, lashing out at Washington for what he called unacceptable meddling in Venezuelan affairs.

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The tirade came after Washington raised concerns about a measure to grant the fiery leftist leader broad lawmaking powers. The National Assembly, which is controlled by the president's political allies, is expected to give final approval this week to what it calls the "enabling law," which would give Chavez the authority to pass a series of laws by decree during an 18-month period.

On Friday, U.S. State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey said Chavez's plans under the law "have caused us some concern."

Chavez rejected Casey's statement in his broadcast, saying: "Go to hell, gringos! Go home!"

He also attacked U.S. actions in the Middle East.

"What does the empire want? Condoleezza said it. How are you? You've forgotten me, missy ... Condoleezza said it clearly, it's about creating a new geopolitical" map in the Middle East, Chavez said.

In typical style, Chavez spoke for hours Sunday during his first appearance on the weekly program in five months. He sent his best wishes to the ailing Cuban leader Fidel Castro, his close ally and friend who has been sidelined since intestinal surgery last summer.

Other comments ranged from watching dancing Brazilian girls wearing string bikinis at a recent presidential summit to Washington's alleged role in the hanging of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

"They took out Saddam Hussein and they hung him, for good or worse. It's not up to me to judge any government, but that gentleman was the president of that country."

Holding up a newspaper with a photograph of him gazing at a string bikini-clad Brazilian dancing samba during a summit last week in Rio de Janeiro, Chavez laughed and said: "I didn't know where to look ... It was truly a thing of beauty."

Chavez, who was re-elected by a wide margin last month, has said he will enact sweeping reforms to remake Venezuela into a socialist state. Among his plans are nationalizing the main telecommunications company, CANTV, and the electricity and natural gas sectors.

He said Sunday his government will not pay the market value for CANTV, but rather will take into account debts to workers, pensions and other obligations including a "technological debt" to the state. CANTV, partially owned by U.S.-based Verizon Communications Inc., was privatized in 1991.

The president's opponents accuse him of using his political strength to expand his powers.

Relations between Caracas and Washington have been tense since Chavez was briefly ousted in a 2002 coup that he claimed the U.S. played a role in. The Bush administration has repeatedly denied being involved, although it recognized an interim government established by coup leaders.

Since then, Chavez has consistently accused the U.S. of conspiring to oust him and often asserts the CIA is working to destabilize his government. U.S. officials have denied trying to overthrow Chavez, but they have labeled him a threat to democracy.

Criticizing excessive consumption and self-indulgence, Chavez also announced plans in his broadcast to raise domestic gasoline prices and approve a new tax on luxury goods such as private yachts, second homes and extravagant automobiles.

He did not give details on the gas price hike, which he said would not affect bus drivers who provide public transportation, or the luxury tax. He said revenue from the new measures would be put toward government social programs.

Venezuela is one of the world's leading petroleum exporters and gasoline now costs as little as 12 cents a gallon due to government subsidies.

stefan segal
01-22-2007, 03:11 AM
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/619/35164

VENEZUELA: Bush's next oil war?


16 March 2005
Stuart Munckton

A statement released on March 8 and signed by almost 400 Venezuelan journalists accused the US government and media of a campaign to prepare the ground for a US military attack on oil-rich Venezuela.

According to translation of the statement posted at the Venezuela Analysis website, it begins by declaring: “As it was done in the past to Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, Chile, Grenada, and Haiti, the government of the United States today targets the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela with all its media and propaganda power. In those brother nations, such campaigns served as the preamble for an armed invasion by the main global military power.”

The journalists claim the aim of the current US campaign of “lies, distortion, and manipulation” is the “overthrow President Hugo Chavez Frias' democratic government”.

In February, the Venezuelan government publicly accused the US government of plotting to assassinate Chavez. Tensions were further heightened when the Venezuelan government announced it had detected the secret presence of “US Marines, along with military planes and amphibious vehicles” on the Caribbean island of Curacao, just 75 kilometres from the Venezuelan mainland, according to an Associated Press report on March 1.

The announcement, by Venezuelan Navy Commander Armando Laguna, sent a wave of panic in Venezuela about an “imminent US invasion”, according to a March 1 Venezuela Analysis report.

National Assembly deputy William Lara claimed the US military presence was part of "a plan to intimidate and provoke by the US".

Venezuela Analysis reported on March 5 that the US ambassador to Venezuela, William Brownfield, had expressed regret at the “lack of communication” over the incident. The Vheadline website reported on March 8 that the Curacao government had categorically stated that it would not allow the island to be the base for any attack on Venezuela.

Venezuela's accusations against Washington were given added credibility when Venezuelan Vice-President Jose Rangel told the media that former US ambassador to Venezuela Charles Shapiro had informed him of a potential plot to kill Chavez.

According to a March 9 Vheadline report, current US ambassador Brownfield confirmed that Shapiro had informed the Venezuelan government that US officials had information of a potential assassination attempt. Brownfield denied that the US government was party to the plot.

However, during a visit to India in early March, Chavez publicly reiterated his accusation that the US was plotting to assassinate him, declaring that “if something happens to me, there is only one person responsible for it, and his name is George W. Bush”.

Oil threat
According to a March 5 South Asia Media website report, Chavez repeated his threat to cease selling Venezuelan oil to the US in the event of any US or US-backed attack on Venezuela.

While Washington has been hostile to the Venezuelan government ever since Chavez's election in December 1998, a public campaign by both government officials and the US media has been underway since Condoleezza Rice became US secretary of state in January.

Referring to Chavez in a January 26 speech to a US Senate foreign relations committee, Rice said that Bush administration was “very concerned about a democratically elected leader who governs in an illiberal way”.

This was the start of a ceaseless campaign against the Venezuelan government waged by US officials and the US media. Highlights have included the director of the CIA, Peter Goss, publicly targeting Venezuela as the leading Latin America nation the US is concerned about and a TV documentary run by Fox News in early February under the title The Iron Fist of Hugo Chavez.

The essence of the campaign has been to demonise Chavez, who has won nine national elections in six years, by claiming that he is moving to establish a dictatorship and using Venezuela's oil wealth to support “terrorists” in Colombia and “destabilising” Bolivia.

Moby
01-22-2007, 12:20 PM
DO SOVERIGN NATION HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN THEIR OWN AFFAIRS EVEN IF BUTCH DISAGREES?
That depends. If the USA is promoting freedom and democracy in all forms as President Bush has said repeatedly, then of course they have every right. However righteous the cause may be to better the world for individuals that is not the cause of the USA. I don't think it should be. That is not an issue just for Dubya. The USA has always and always will focus on its own best interests.

We claim that we support democracy in all forms yet we support Egypt, Saudi Arabia and are the largest supporter of the Chinese economy. We refuse to even acknowledge the groups inside these countries that support freedom and democracy.

I lived just a few miles from the Holocaust Museum and many times I heard people say how proud they were that America invaded Iraq and stopped the genocide there. Of course I always point out that we've been allowing genocide to take place for years. Now I point out that we've possibly killed more Iraqis then Saddam. We've legalized torture and we support governments that squash freedom at every turn.

I think we say that we support freedom and democracy so that the Christian supporters can walk out of church and feel good for hating gays and supporting the death, torture and devastation that we really allow.

How anyone can say that they're a good Christian and still support the admins actions in Iraq is only because they refuse to acknowledge the actions being taken. Yes, we support freedom and democracy in all forms that benefit the USA. Frankly, that's how it should be but I can't believe in Jesus and have those beliefs as well. It's not possible.

Kismet
01-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Technically the terrorists under Jihad can't be called muslims either as one of the Five pillars of Islam states "Thou shall not KIll" but does that stop them from doing so ? not really,

the people hating could be other religions or not really christian.

NomDeGuerre
01-22-2007, 06:57 PM
Chavez smells like a dictator of the worst kind. Using his people's distrust of the U.S. to consolidate power. Those who support civil liberties should withold supporting him.

stefan segal
01-22-2007, 07:08 PM
Nom..."know the tree by the fruit it bears".

See what he has done for the least (but by far the most numerous...something like the ten percent rich and everyonle else starving) of his people...then by matching the fruit of "our" democracy against the Chavez government...then tell you opinion.

Stefan

Betty Blowtorch
01-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Chavez smells like a dictator of the worst kind.
Using his people's distrust of the U.S. to consolidate
power. Those who support civil liberties should
withold supporting him.
Despite U.S. attempts to oust him from power, Chavez
is an extremely popular, democratically elected leader
who has worked hard to make life better for the poor
people in his country.

If he could legally run for U.S. President, I'd vote for him
before I'd vote for most of the phony corporate lackeys
infesting the American political scene these days.

I don't know where you got the impression he's a dictator.
Please tell me you haven't been watching Fox News or
listening to Rush Limbaugh.

Moby
01-23-2007, 12:15 AM
Chavez smells like a dictator of the worst kind.
Chavez is NOT a dictator. He maintains power by giving to the poor. His oil company has offered far more to the poor and needing in the USA then any other oil company in history. Think about that.
Using his people's distrust of the U.S. to consolidate power. Those who support civil liberties should withold supporting him.
OK, so take your above statement and replace the US with Muslims and what 21st century President do you have? :D

NomDeGuerre
01-23-2007, 07:28 PM
Nom..."know the tree by the fruit it bears".

See what he has done for the least (but by far the most numerous...something like the ten percent rich and everyonle else starving) of his people...then by matching the fruit of "our" democracy against the Chavez government...then tell you opinion.

Stefan

Keep an eye on his human rights record is all I am saying. He has jailed political opponents, and that is the beginning of tyranny.

stefan segal
01-24-2007, 01:39 AM
Nom...Chevez was snatched from his "whitehouse" by CIA instigated putch buy force and spitirted away into captivity.

With the CIA servicing big US oil interests along with assinination attempts, hie might need to be extra cautious...though I have no knowledge of the charges you make.

Stefan

tomc
01-26-2007, 12:26 PM
yes it does....thats how we got in the mess were in by sticking our nose were it didnt belong.