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Smurf-Herder
09-12-2008, 12:34 PM
Iran renews nuclear weapons development
Fresh evidence has emerged that suggests Iran has renewed work on developing nuclear weapons, according to Western security sources.

By Con Coughlin and Tim Butcher in Jerusalem
Last Updated: 1:08AM BST 12 Sep 2008

Nuclear experts responsible for monitoring Iran's nuclear programme have discovered that enough enriched uranium, which if processed to weapons grade level could be used to make up to six atom bombs, has disappeared from the main production facility at Isfahan.

American spy satellites have identified a number of suspicious sites, which the Iranians have not declared to nuclear inspectors, that intelligence officials believe are being used for covert research.

The new discoveries emerged as it was revealed that Israel had asked America for military supplies, including "bunker buster" bombs and re-fuelling planes, suitable for an attack on Iranian nuclear installations.

The Israeli paper Haaretz reported yesterday that Israel has also asked for permission to use an air corridor through Iraqi airspace, currently controlled by America, to Iran.

So far the requests have been turned down by Washington, which is currently not as keen as Israel to consider a military strike against Iran.

But concern that Iran has resumed work on building atom bombs has deepened following the revelation that large quantities of uranium has gone missing from Iran's conversion facility at Isfahan.

The Isfahan complex, which enriches raw uranium "yellow cake" into material that can be used for either nuclear power or atomic weapons, is supposed to be subject to close supervision by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). But the Iranians only allow IAEA inspectors access to the final stage of the production process, where the uranium in gas form - UF6 - is stored.

By conducting a careful study of the amount of material stored at Isfahan, and the amount of "yellow cake" known to have been processed at the plant, nuclear experts believe between 50-60 tons of uranium - which if enriched to weapons grade level would be sufficient to produce five or six atom bombs - has gone missing from the plant.

IAEA officials believe the Iranians have deliberately removed the uranium at a stage in the production process that is not under their supervision. "The inspectors only have limited access at Isfahan, and it looks as though Iranian officials have removed significant quantities of UF6 at a stage in the process that is not being monitored," said a nuclear official. "If Iran's nuclear intentions are peaceful, then why are they doing this?" Nuclear inspectors have also been concerned to discover that Gholamreza Aghazadeh, the head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation, recently ordered scientists to increase the amount of UF6 being diverted from Isfahan to another storage facility.

IAEA officials have no idea where the missing uranium is being stored, but suspect it could be held at one of several suspicious installations that have been spotted by American spy satellites.

The Iranians will be asked to give a full account of the missing enriched uranium when the IAEA's board of governors meets in Vienna later this month to discuss the continuing crisis over Iran's nuclear enrichment programme.

The mounting concern over Iran's nuclear intentions has intensified Israeli efforts to prepare for a possible pre-emptive strike on Iran, which has led Jerusalem to presenting Washington with a "wish list" of military equipment.

In the past America has been prepared to provide Israel with "bunker buster" bombs, known by their serial number GBU-28. They weigh over two tons each and are designed to penetrate deep underground, even through reinforced concrete, before detonating.

Israel used them in unsuccessful attempts to take out the leadership of Hizbollah, the militant Shia group, during the war of 2006.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/2800255/Iran-renews-nuclear-weapons-development.html

Hog Trash
09-12-2008, 12:50 PM
My guess is, if their intention is a dirty bomb, they won't risk losing it trying to smuggle it into the US, but it sounds like dangerous times in Israel.

disrupter
09-12-2008, 01:47 PM
With the nutty leadership the USA seems to have [favor] it seems only rational for any small nation to want Nukes.

We invaded Iraq & not North Korea, who has been repeatedly caught supplying terrorists with missiles & other arms.

And that math ain't no rocket science.

The USA is a pack of bullies who pick on the weak & vulnerable & not the ones who can actually defend themselves.

maybe Iran will do the USA a favor & nuke Israel & the holyland to glass,
pretty much eliminating it from any more absurd future political consideration.

Hog Trash
09-12-2008, 04:12 PM
With the nutty leadership the USA seems to have [favor] it seems only rational for any small nation to want Nukes.

We invaded Iraq & not North Korea, who has been repeatedly caught supplying terrorists with missiles & other arms.

And that math ain't no rocket science.

The USA is a pack of bullies who pick on the weak & vulnerable & not the ones who can actually defend themselves.

maybe Iran will do the USA a favor & nuke Israel & the holyland to glass,
pretty much eliminating it from any more absurd future political consideration.Hey, you can't say that!...Oh, sorry....I forgot, the Jews don't fall under the protection of Political Correctness any longer...Continue with your racial bigotry, or is it religious bigotry?

Bill
09-12-2008, 05:40 PM
Well, soon the election will be over, and the vice and prez nonuts can attack.

Smurf-Herder
09-12-2008, 08:14 PM
Well, soon the election will be over, and the vice and prez nonuts can attack.

Bill, I really think the plan is to let Iran strike first. A war between Iran and Israel will tank the world economy. And nobody wants to be blamed for that. At least if the global economy has to go down the tubes, I'd rather have the responsibility put on Iran's shoulders.

We won't even let Israel go for it; because the effect on everyone will be worse than we could imagine. Better to hunker down and take the first hit; and only then retaliate.

U.S. rejects Israeli requests for arms, airway to strike Iran

www.chinaview.cn 2008-09-11 19:58:13

JERUSALEM, Sept. 11 (Xinhua) -- Special bombs and the green light for an airway over Iraq were included in a military aid package the United States has refused to offer Israel for a possible strike against Iran, local daily Ha'aretz reported Thursday.

During the past few months, high-ranking Israeli officials repeatedly warned that Iran would possess nuclear weapons soon andthat all options were on the table to deal with the imminent threat, giving rise to a surge of speculations that Israel might launch military strikes against Iran's nuclear sites.

Yet in a series of meetings at a very senior level, the Americans made clear to the Israelis that for now they are sticking to the diplomatic option to halt the Iranian nuclear project, and rejected the Israeli request for advanced weaponry that would be used to attack Iran, said the report.

The requested package included a large number of "bunker-buster" bombs, permission to use an air corridor to Iran via the Iraqi air space, an advanced technological system and refueling planes, according to the newspaper.

The rejection, which followed discussions during U.S. President George W. Bush's visit to Israel in May and during Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak's trip to Washington in July, would make it very difficult for Israel to attack Iran, said the report.

Meanwhile, the report added that in compensation for turning down Israel's "offensive" requests, the U.S. has agreed to strengthen Israel's defensive systems, possibly by stationing an advanced U.S. radar system in southern Israel.

At the beginning of the year, the Israeli leadership considered it reasonably possible that Bush would decide to attack Iran before the end of his term in January, said the newspaper, adding that the likelihood now is close to nil.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-09/11/content_9927743.htm

Hog Trash
09-12-2008, 08:38 PM
Bill, I really think the plan is to let Iran strike first. A war between Iran and Israel will tank the world economy. And nobody wants to be blamed for that. At least if the global economy has to go down the tubes, I'd rather have the responsibility put on Iran's shoulders.
A month after it starts nobody will care who started it. Israel will attack with or without the OK from the US.

They may wait till after the election if Bush asked, but the threat of a nuclear attack will spur them to action.

Israel is definately feeling threatened and it's just a matter of time. What I can't figure out is Iran has to know this.

What are they thinking?

asroc
09-13-2008, 12:00 AM
They're probably thinking this is a pretty dumb thread.

Jesse Hemingway
09-13-2008, 12:05 AM
They're probably thinking this is a pretty dumb thread.
I second it:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Jesse Hemingway
09-13-2008, 12:22 AM
Iran renews nuclear weapons development
Fresh evidence has emerged that suggests Iran has renewed work on developing nuclear weapons, according to Western security sources.

By Con Coughlin and Tim Butcher in Jerusalem
Last Updated: 1:08AM BST 12 Sep 2008

Nuclear experts responsible for monitoring Iran's nuclear programme have discovered that enough enriched uranium, which if processed to weapons grade level could be used to make up to six atom bombs, has disappeared from the main production facility at Isfahan.

American spy satellites have identified a number of suspicious sites, which the Iranians have not declared to nuclear inspectors, that intelligence officials believe are being used for covert research.

The new discoveries emerged as it was revealed that Israel had asked America for military supplies, including "bunker buster" bombs and re-fuelling planes, suitable for an attack on Iranian nuclear installations.

The Israeli paper Haaretz reported yesterday that Israel has also asked for permission to use an air corridor through Iraqi airspace, currently controlled by America, to Iran.

So far the requests have been turned down by Washington, which is currently not as keen as Israel to consider a military strike against Iran.

But concern that Iran has resumed work on building atom bombs has deepened following the revelation that large quantities of uranium has gone missing from Iran's conversion facility at Isfahan.

The Isfahan complex, which enriches raw uranium "yellow cake" into material that can be used for either nuclear power or atomic weapons, is supposed to be subject to close supervision by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). But the Iranians only allow IAEA inspectors access to the final stage of the production process, where the uranium in gas form - UF6 - is stored.

By conducting a careful study of the amount of material stored at Isfahan, and the amount of "yellow cake" known to have been processed at the plant, nuclear experts believe between 50-60 tons of uranium - which if enriched to weapons grade level would be sufficient to produce five or six atom bombs - has gone missing from the plant.

IAEA officials believe the Iranians have deliberately removed the uranium at a stage in the production process that is not under their supervision. "The inspectors only have limited access at Isfahan, and it looks as though Iranian officials have removed significant quantities of UF6 at a stage in the process that is not being monitored," said a nuclear official. "If Iran's nuclear intentions are peaceful, then why are they doing this?" Nuclear inspectors have also been concerned to discover that Gholamreza Aghazadeh, the head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation, recently ordered scientists to increase the amount of UF6 being diverted from Isfahan to another storage facility.

IAEA officials have no idea where the missing uranium is being stored, but suspect it could be held at one of several suspicious installations that have been spotted by American spy satellites.

The Iranians will be asked to give a full account of the missing enriched uranium when the IAEA's board of governors meets in Vienna later this month to discuss the continuing crisis over Iran's nuclear enrichment programme.

The mounting concern over Iran's nuclear intentions has intensified Israeli efforts to prepare for a possible pre-emptive strike on Iran, which has led Jerusalem to presenting Washington with a "wish list" of military equipment.

In the past America has been prepared to provide Israel with "bunker buster" bombs, known by their serial number GBU-28. They weigh over two tons each and are designed to penetrate deep underground, even through reinforced concrete, before detonating.

Israel used them in unsuccessful attempts to take out the leadership of Hizbollah, the militant Shia group, during the war of 2006.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/2800255/Iran-renews-nuclear-weapons-development.html

Remember The USS Liberty!!!!

On June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War, Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy intelligence-gathering ship off the coast of Gaza, killing 35 men and wounding 171. Israeli apologized and called the attack an accident. The U.S. government accepted the apology and did not openly challenge the explanation For almost three decades the crewmen of the Liberty have waged a campaign to have the attack investigated.

Indeed, they claim that not only was the attack was intentional, but also that Johnson recalled the Sixth Fleet rescue flights to avoid a clash between the U.S. and Israel. The Aerotech News has recently published this series of articles, written by John Borne, about the attack and the issues that it raised. Dr. Borne, wrote The USS LIBERTY, Dissenting History vs. Official History, an historical study of the incident, for his PhD dissertation at New York University.

The recent publication of"BODY OF SECRETS" by James Bamford, with new evidence that the Israelis deliberately attacked the Liberty and the attendant reviews and commentary in the national media, have focused renewed interest on the Liberty incident.
http://www.logogo.net/liberty.htm

Mr, gone
09-13-2008, 04:13 AM
Bunch of lying pricks our goverment contains...

Just one more example to wake up you incompet people, that our goverment ONLY cares about it's own selfish interest!!!

Smurf-Herder
09-13-2008, 10:38 AM
A month after it starts nobody will care who started it. Israel will attack with or without the OK from the US.

They may wait till after the election if Bush asked, but the threat of a nuclear attack will spur them to action.

Israel is definately feeling threatened and it's just a matter of time. What I can't figure out is Iran has to know this.

What are they thinking?

I think they want to be attacked; knowing nobody is sure where they're hiding everything. With all the facilities that are known only being what they've already planned on losing. Then they can have the excuse to go mental on the entire region; and have allies join in. With their secret facilities still intact. This story shows that our suspicions of a second secret program that is farther along are well founded.

If Israel attacks, it will be a massive attack, but not sustainable. Iran can then respond in a number of different ways. Attacking all the Gulf countries and Western targets. Possibly even bringing Russia into the mix.

IMO, it's a no-win situation. But anything we can do to contain the political fallout on our side is important, in terms of lessening the impact; to any extent that we can. It's much easier (politically) to defend Israel and our Gulf allies, than it is to defend our starting the war.