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Abnormalia
01-18-2007, 04:38 AM
Okay, it's literally these kinds of headlines that make even me shiver. This is wrong on too many levels. (From msnbc of all places)

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id//16668110/


Story:


Gonzales: Judges unfit to rule on terror policy
Attorney general says federal jurists should defer to president's will


WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales says federal judges are unqualified to make rulings affecting national security policy, ramping up his criticism of how they handle terrorism cases.

In remarks prepared for delivery Wednesday, Gonzales says judges generally should defer to the will of the president and Congress when deciding national
security cases. He also raps jurists who “apply an activist philosophy that stretches the law to suit policy preferences.”

The text of the speech, scheduled for delivery at the American Enterprise Institute, was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press. It outlines, in part, what qualities the Bush administration looks for when selecting candidates for the federal bench.

“We want to determine whether he understands the inherent limits that make an unelected judiciary inferior to Congress or the president in making policy judgments,” Gonzales says in the prepared speech. “That, for example, a judge will never be in the best position to know what is in the national security interests of our country.”

Challenges to Bush policies
Gonzales did not cite any specific activist jurists, or give examples of national security cases, in his prepared text. The Justice Department is appealing an August decision by U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit, who ruled the government’s warrantless surveillance program unconstitutional and ordered it stopped immediately.

The Justice Department appealed her decision and the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati has ruled that the administration can keep the program in place during the appeal.

Attorneys representing terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay are challenging the legality of a law, signed by President Bush in October, that authorizes military trials. Those challenges raise the possibility that trials will be struck down by a federal appeals court or the Supreme Court.

Gonzales, a former Texas Supreme Court justice, has in the past warned about judges who inject their personal beliefs in cases. But his prepared remarks Wednesday mark his sharpest words over concerns about the federal judiciary — the third, and equal, branch of government.

Judges who “apply an activist philosophy that stretches the law to suit policy preferences, they actually reduce the credibility and authority of the judiciary,” Gonzales says. “In so doing, they undermine the rule of law that strengthens our democracy.”

Even so, Gonzales characterized efforts to retaliate against unpopular rulings as misguided, noting a failed South Dakota proposal to sue or jail judges for making unpopular court decisions. He also called for Congress to consider increasing the number of federal judges to handle heavy workloads, and to offer them higher salaries to lure and keep the best jurists on the bench.

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

stefan segal
01-18-2007, 02:33 PM
Nice find subnormal...it points out how the government openly DEMANDS the right to subvert the justice arm of government as it has done to congress previously (I hope) to the last congress.

It also shows the goevernment MO...if you don't succed with intimidation, then raise their saleries and buy them outright.

This government is the pits...stinks...rotting from the head down.

Stefan

Bill
01-18-2007, 02:44 PM
Have you heard the thing about how the whitehouse is using a little known clause in the patriot act to force out federal prosecutors and replace them with their own handpicked political hacks?

Without prosecutors to bring cases the judges can't even rule on them.

And of course these hand picked prosecutors won't go after Bush's friends, no matter what crimes they commit, or they will bungle the cases intentionally.

6 or 8 prosecutors already gone, and a dozen more about to be forced out.

The last one was replaced by a former official in the RNC without much legal experience, or so I read.

kres24GT
01-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Remember guys, government knows best. This is why we vote our freedoms over to them. They know what is best for us and we should always realize this. I think we all agree here that we would rather government make most decisions for us and not allow us to be free to choose. We do this because they know best... always.

Moby
01-19-2007, 11:20 AM
It's shocking that Americans seem to know so little about the reasons behind checks and balances that such a statement could be made without us pouring into the streets and demanding he be replaced immediately.

How can anyone that believes in the American way of life and the checks and balances that protect this nation have such a belief much less actually say it.

stefan segal
01-19-2007, 12:21 PM
The language used by the administration and the other branches of government to depict positons and policies are critical, as they also describe the license and its restrictions and responsibilities that are attached to that depiction.

The word that should be foremost in critique, debate and exploration, si the word "war".

The word 'war' , is most often used in the phrase: "war on terrorism" which is equal in its non sense as: "war on pornography", and can be dismissed for this discussion.

The importance of the word "war", is the "war powers act", which butch has siezed on to enable him to recind our citizen's rights as a free people.

Where we are presently killing people, it is most generally described as a "mission"...not a word triggering the anti Constitutional act of the war powers act.

Even had Iraq been an official war...our empire against another dictatorship, we have murdered their leader, destroyed their country, and are presently stealling everything worth stealing, while constructing a military bse of startling proportions...who can say that...if there was a war..then it is not yet finished?

We have not only satisfied our mission statement, but have maimed or impoverished all those we haven't outright murdered...then where is the need for assuming the powers of the "war powers act"?

Who are OUR champians? Wellstone was assinated along with his whole family, John K jr., who planned to run for pres this goaround, went by exactly the same inexplicable means...others who speak out are discredited...like Mckenny...double agent back-stabbers like kerry...and that total shit lieberman are only worth the trouble to jail or remove their citizenship...leaving only Edwards who may have a chance and also has his values in order.

But I digress.l..We need to find a voice and stand up to demand the laws of this land be applied equally to all...especially to the administration.

STefan