a message for americans.

[oneofakindthe3rd]

I have a message for the American people.
A changing time has come upon us.
Never before have so many had access to so much information.
Never before has the barrier between private and public been so confused
and slight.
We are at war.
And yet, I am not at war.
This war that we are in has not affected me directly in any way,
I have not had friends taken before their time.
I have not been subject to patriotic exhortations to fight
as those who only stand and wait.
My rent is low, my mind is clear, my chocolate unscarce.
Have you ever talked to those poor souls who lived through a great war?
The second, or perhaps more gruesomly, the first.
Have you heard the stories, yes, of courage, heroic support
but also of privitations, of shortages, of hardships.
We are not a country living in fear, we're not
a people of conquering intent.
We have evolved beyond that. Yes,
countless of our husbands, our sons, our brothers and sisters and friends are now out in harm's way.
They're fighting for our country, but is it keeping us safe?
Are we less feared, are we becoming admired?
I have a friend who lives in an apartment complex a few blocks from me.
He lives alone, knows none of his neighbors, and has spend
over 50$ on locks. I live in a large house with six other people. One a street of such
communities. I carry no keys.
I also live in another community.
In this community, I daily swim through the stars
in a telescopic boat. I research every last question and I KNOW, by god,
which species of flea my cats have disgorged to creep stealthily to my fleshy places,
to gorge itself in hidden place. but there, in that community, I touch the world.
There I can hear anything through microphone ears,
see anything through webcam eyes. I have my own fucking TV station!
My brain is a grand central station of emails and and Im's,
satellite imagery, pornography photography and entymology.
My hair is wired directly into the barbershop
and my pores ooze information directly into the screen.
And in this place, I am shown another way, I see
America as a shining place. A Babylon, an Alexandria.
Strange, isn't it, how many names that echo strongly with ancient wisdom
are found in the very place our modern intelligence is now destroying.
Let us make of ourselves, not a nation of soldiers, but a nation of warriors, not of destroyers, but of creators.
Not of punishers, but of helpers.
Why do we make jokes about the salaries of teachers? What a
ridiculous stereotype. THEY TEACH YOUR CHILDREN!
You should sacrifice BULLS to them, huge frothy-eyed beasts
with souls the color of flame, who echo pride in their roars
and bellow a welcome to the heavens as they greet the knife!
You should give them Ambrosia and Nectar to dine on laud their virtues in song!
Do you want surly, bad-tempered, ignorant offspring, who bring shame to your family?
THEN CARE!
Let us be a nation of Warriors, nor soldiers. Gentlemen, not rough ones.
Does a strong man not care for and protect the weaker?
DOES HE NOT GIVE HIS BROTHER THE SHELTER OF HIS ARM?!
For we know all men are brothers.
We LIVE, I live, you live,
in this global community.
This unreal, surreal, too real world which we
MANKIND
through our own knowledge, our own prowess
have developed. WE have created, through the sweat of our souls.
We are of many faiths, yet none holds sway.
WE are of many creeds, yet all live as one.
We are of many people, yet we are all American.
Let us become a beacon of learning, of compassion.
Let us relieve ourselves of the burden of the conqueror,
the magistrate, the judge.
Instead, let us be a nation of examples.
We are freedom Incarnate. That is our boast.

"THE LAND OF THE FREE"

Then let us be brave. Brave enough to be the bigger man.
Did your mother tell you that too? Be the bigger man.
Walk away.
Let us put down our guns, let us disarm our missiles, and turn our gaze
inward.
Let us walk away.
Let us help our familiers, our friends, our countrymen.
Let us walkaway together.
Yes they hurt us. Yes, we have been attacked. But we are strong, and they are weak.
Let us become peaceful. Others WILL follow.
We have become, like it or not, the star on the World's Stage,
and all of us but players in a great story.
Let us make it the story we would want to be in.
Let us all be noble heroes, honorable gentleman, admired ladies.
Didn't you ever dream you were
Cary Grant? Albert Einsten? Bill Gates? Michael Jordan?
let us develope our bodies and minds.

This is my message for you.
For Amy, and Mom, For Dad,
and 'Ris, and Grampa and Grammy.
For all you motherfuckers who pretend to like me;)
To my friends, and their friends.
You are all Americans. A nation
OF THE PEOPLE.
tell your government what you feel.
tell them to let your husbands and brothers and sons
walk away.
tell them to pay your teachers, your scientists, your doctors.
tell them for fucks sake, if you really need to drop things out of airplanes,
wrap the damn money up and drop it in harlem, or compton, or my house.
I'm fucking poor you know. my fiance had cancer and we have no health insurance.
But whatever. The poor, the sick, the economy, the schools, the research labs.
Be constructive, not destructive.
Be a good examle.
Be an American.
Please.

[exarmyranger]

Yo,oneofakind#3.Welcome to DC Junkies...I just finished reading your post...A fine message/sentiment,unfortunatly though this idealistic attempt to raise the collective consious of (we) the people,to a level of,Tibetan Monks,(although personally I would love to live to see this Utopia)is not likely to be seen in my lifetime,or that of my children and thier children.I am not a Believer of the God/Heaven,Saten/Hell,theory(s).But I try to live peacefully,and not judge anyones beliefs as to what is Right,or Wrong,to them.My veiw(s)of what it means to be an American,are posted in a reply to a thread from 1/12/07,speak your mind,page#1,post#2.kres*#$GT.check this kres24gt boy out...Then please post your opinion of his...umm...message? T/C ex.

[kres24GT]

LMAO @Land of the Free


We hate Freedom in America.

[stefan segal]

I wish he was more specific about identifying "they" in "Yes...they hurt us...", when it appears that other than 9/11 which was an administrative effort, all the others and the attempts to blow us up or down, comes from intelligence agencies (world-wide) duking it out between themselves in the major cities around the world.

Otherwise...the upshot of it (poem/prose/acid dream) was: do good...not bad...and just as utilitarian.

I also question why the trick nom de plume...the third singular? Did the first two 'one and onlys' get lost trying to find a cohesive singular thread to their pitch...or simply die of sugar shock?

Stefan

[exarmyranger]

Hmmm,a keen observation indeed.And an astute querie also,Stefan.I look forward to his/her(came off a bit feminine imo)reply(s)cya ex

[Paul Revere]

It can be refreshing and naturally interesting to have various points of view to consider and reflect upon. Thanks be to God for making us all unique in one way or another (no cloned robots), also he gave us intellect and free will so that we can choose. You seem to reflect many words in his glory and it is not done often enough in our current culture (was different when the founding fathers were first here). This is why you swear on the bible (word of God and judgement thereof if you purjure yourself). Why we let this new Senator or Congressman (Muslim) swear in on the Koran is abdomination to our forefathers and to all citizens of America who realize that within the Koran it is considered moral and righteous to lie to the infidel (that is most of America, minus some imports). Now that this is mainstream, some other dude can swear in on whatever, maybe even Mad Magazine if that is his inner beliefs. 'Forgive them father, for they know not what they do', applies daily in this global culture of death. You think it is insane in todays culture?, reflecting on the past 40-50 years to today, imagine next 40 years (assuming no nuke holocaust)? We need divine intervention and a wake up call, perhaps it is forecoming in one form or another.

Enjoyed reading most of your words, however please refrain from the "f" word as it devalues your good words and helps us fall into using more profane stuff (which I am not exempt) but would like to be. Take no offense I consider you a fellow, brother.

Peace be with us:)

[stefan segal]

Paul...I understand your god gave you free choice...why don't you take advantage of it instead of reading your values off notes on your cuff.

Each moment of NOW (and NOW is all we actually have that isn't a story yet) is new...every second of the day...how can you attempt to construct fixed values that obsruct the flow of life?

It is against nature. Any new second (NOW), might require a new resolution, adaptation, solution...how can a person with free choice guarenteed, use the same cookie-cutter answers on all their new NOWs?

It appears to run counter to our species greatest claim to fame and endurance as a specie...that of being the most adaptive on this planet

(although that might be a self aggrandisement...I belive bacteria are actually better at the job than we...but again...bacteria have no god-given rules)...and your credo abjures creative responses to the moment.

Altho there is a dictum that goes something like..."when in rome...render unto ceasar...etc." but it also makes the point that you shouldn't lie down with whores in a whorehouse...where and what's the sense of those two taken together? It blows logic all to hell.

Just like giving you free choice, then crippling your sense of logic so you are conditioned not to make a choice in keeping with the dynamics of the moment.

I do seem to be beating up on you...I really don't have a credo problem with you...but it becomes a problem to me when you begin to prostelize your beliefs here on this political thread..more precisely...attempting to push your religous beliefs where I might inadvertantly step in it and then must go the trouble to not only scrape the eveidence off my shoe, but then try to rid my person from that god-awful smell...only then, do I take exception.

I have discomforted you by an equal and opposite viewpoint so you will feel what reading tracks does to my equnaminity...as it is now doing to yours.

I'd like to consider my post a demonstration of what shouldn't be on this list...and drop it dead...considering it square between our views.

Stefan

[Paul Revere]

Stefan love you man as my neighbor and even if you may not like my words. It is not just my belief, but among the most populous belief and from the most widely published book in all history. Most cultures do or did have some kind of knowledge of their being a God or God's, intuitively correct thinking. Why is this planet the way it is, cycles, order(time and space), a living planet and why are we given dominion over all things (animals, plants etc.) Why do we not find other life elsewhere? Why is it the the Torah & Pentateuch (first 5 books of the bibles+-), have been confirmed by finding the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947? Just things to contemplate. We don't know enough of how God works, faith has mysteries. Consider also the total universe, infinite as far as we can tell (how is that possible, we don't undertand anything being infinite?), and if it is contained, what could possible contain that and/or unto that and that? It is a mind blower to say the least. Some may argue the existence of Jesus, whom dwelt amongest us and performed miracles, witnessed by many etc. Traditions (handed down orally came first, before written Gospels and new testament 70-90 A.D.+), then the New Testatment. The Apostles like Peter and others are documented and burial locations are known of, Peters was identified just recently. The bible mentions to go forth and make disciples of all nations, this is why Christians and followers attempt to inform others (not to jam it down their throats, but atleast to have perhaps an ear to listen). The actual message is of love, hope and the beatitudes to assist thy neighbor and others(feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the imprisioned, water to the thirsty etc). We should not shoot that type of messenger. Because of mans natures we can mess up any and all things,(we are not perfect) and history shows it throughout, starting from Adam and Eve. Also, consider the universe again, where did matter come from to form it? Scientist are wonderful can they create 'matter' from nothingness, somebody did and it was not man made.
Now those whom wish to condemn me and my words can have your feast. I understand your thoughts too and will not condemn you even if you attack me personally, as that goes against charity and humility.
God's ways are not our ways and we do not understand all things in the universe, at one time we even thought the earth was flat. Although we think we are brilliant and super intelligent, understand we have the knowledge of a mustard seed, in comparison to what the universe can reveal. Just look at the last 100 years, we finally have some greater education compared to the darker ages...electricity, phone, radio, t.v., computer, electronics, medical breakthroughs. Imagine what the next 100 years might bring? The pace is much different that in the past. Why did it take so long for us to evolve to this juncture? (It is a mystery)Evolution is not necessarily outside of God's plans or design and such is available to read about. Now (humor added) if I must be nailed to a cross, please use the power air gun type (quick and less painful) and of course add the foot rest as this makes possible longer sufferring and improved breathing (keeps diaphragm from collapsing from weigh upon self).

Peace be in you hearts

[stefan segal]

Can't let it go...can you paul.

What happend to "when in rome..it doesn't apply to 'when in a POLITICAL site...talk politics?

I tried to demonstrate to you that I find your demonstrations of the depth of your ingrained programming offensive and inappropriate for this list to attempt spreading your canned tripe here on ths POLITICAL list.

You list all the vocabulary words...love, compassion, etc. along with some new one's like "correct thinking."

Who decides what "correct thinking" includes?

If you had love...you would notice that this is a POLITICAL site, and take your tripe to where religion is the subject.

Or...do you think youself a missionary...taking the 'word' to the wilds...and the more abuse you suffer at the hands of the infidel...the greater grows your self delusional inner glow?

You have the freedom here to say whatever you want...but your protestations of boundless love must have blinded you to the fact that your subject is inappropriate to those who created and those who joined this list to debate and explore POLITICS...or does god give you dominion...not only over all other lifeforms, but everyone else not speaking your jargon?

I attempted to demonstrate to you graphically how offensive and abusive it is for you to have the affrontery to instruct others in "correct thinking" relative to their relationship with their OWN personal god...who the fuck do you think you are to attempt to intervene into this singularly personal space, between a man and his god?

You mentioned Jesus...inferred you believed in him...if you do believe, then why not follow what he said, like "physician...heal thyself" and " closet your prayers...or take your prayer to the closet", the jist of it being to keep your relationship private. don't flaunt your faith.

No one vocalizes their belief in sunlight...that's because they don't question and have no need of supporting testimony of its existance.

Those who most vocalize thier beliefs du jure, are the least sure of them and need others to hold their beliefs from falling apart...I notice you went to the trouble to list all those who support your beliefs in your post above.

If you must continue this line of crap, and by the look of it, there's no use appealing to your sense of propriety...or compassion, or love of your fellow man's internal privacy that will move you to stop...then I suggest you take your crap to the 'shooting the shit' half of this list, where I assume any flavor of shit is acceptable.

Stefan

[exarmyranger]

Stefan love you man as my neighbor and even if you may not like my words. It is not just my belief, but among the most populous belief and from the most widely published book in all history. Most cultures do or did have some kind of knowledge of their being a God or God's, intuitively correct thinking. Why is this planet the way it is, cycles, order(time and space), a living planet and why are we given dominion over all things (animals, plants etc.) Why do we not find other life elsewhere? Why is it the the Torah & Pentateuch (first 5 books of the bibles+-), have been confirmed by finding the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947? Just things to contemplate. We don't know enough of how God works, faith has mysteries. Consider also the total universe, infinite as far as we can tell (how is that possible, we don't undertand anything being infinite?), and if it is contained, what could possible contain that and/or unto that and that? It is a mind blower to say the least. Some may argue the existence of Jesus, whom dwelt amongest us and performed miracles, witnessed by many etc. Traditions (handed down orally came first, before written Gospels and new testament 70-90 A.D.+), then the New Testatment. The Apostles like Peter and others are documented and burial locations are known of, Peters was identified just recently. The bible mentions to go forth and make disciples of all nations, this is why Christians and followers attempt to inform others (not to jam it down their throats, but atleast to have perhaps an ear to listen). The actual message is of love, hope and the beatitudes to assist thy neighbor and others(feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the imprisioned, water to the thirsty etc). We should not shoot that type of messenger. Because of mans natures we can mess up any and all things,(we are not perfect) and history shows it throughout, starting from Adam and Eve. Also, consider the universe again, where did matter come from to form it? Scientist are wonderful can they create 'matter' from nothingness, somebody did and it was not man made.
Now those whom wish to condemn me and my words can have your feast. I understand your thoughts too and will not condemn you even if you attack me personally, as that goes against charity and humility.
God's ways are not our ways and we do not understand all things in the universe, at one time we even thought the earth was flat. Although we think we are brilliant and super intelligent, understand we have the knowledge of a mustard seed, in comparison to what the universe can reveal. Just look at the last 100 years, we finally have some greater education compared to the darker ages...electricity, phone, radio, t.v., computer, electronics, medical breakthroughs. Imagine what the next 100 years might bring? The pace is much different that in the past. Why did it take so long for us to evolve to this juncture? (It is a mystery)Evolution is not necessarily outside of God's plans or design and such is available to read about. Now (humor added) if I must be nailed to a cross, please use the power air gun type (quick and less painful) and of course add the foot rest as this makes possible longer sufferring and improved breathing (keeps diaphragm from collapsing from weigh upon self).

Peace be in you heartsThank's,you to.First let me say I respect anyone who lives by the bible,and its message(s).Although I do'nt recall meeting anyone,(Christian,Prot.Cath.Meth.Bap.ect.)that in thought,& deed,followed the path of rightousness.24/7...Jesus and his story are (in part),written in the Torah,and the Koran,and follows the biblical acount closely(up untill his death)no 3 days&assention.There are more Hindu's&Buddist's than there are,Cristians(all denominations)&Hebrews.Muslim's are #2.The universe has no edges,or center,E=MC2. Big Bang Theory...All matter is made up of atoms.Quantum Math/Physics are well outside my realm of knowledge. If a sentient supreme being do'es exist,I think he/it would be indifferant,and the state of mankind bears me out somewhat,imo.ex

[stefan segal]

I see that the best possible hope for all the "isms", is that their "god" is indeed indifferent.

Stefan

[exarmyranger]

My point exactly,if I did believe in God,or Allah,or The Great Spirit...I still would not be a part of any organized sect./church.If it's Gods church...why do they(believers)need Priests,Ministers,Rabbis,ect.?Who died and left them to be the boss(s)...ex

[stefan segal]

Who died and left them to be the boss(s)...ex
__________________

Funny you should ask that....:)

hint: look under aj's name (WARNING...Parental guidence required: graphic violence, torture, murder ...with cultish origions.)

Stefan

[exarmyranger]

Who died and left them to be the boss(s)...ex
__________________

Funny you should ask that....:)

hint: look under aj's name (WARNING...Parental guidence required: graphic violence, torture, murder ...with cultish origions.)

StefanYo Stefan,the Catholic Church,siting "Devine Providence" managed to bring the Word(along with several viruses)the indigenous people had no immunity against,here to the new world.These men of God...used all that is mentioned under (WARNING)to convert these savages,to Christ...Some became converts with in thier hearts,most played along in order to live...The 1st thing the Pilgrams did after establishing a sympathetic(we are stupid and harmless) attitude with local tribe(s).the pilgrams learned how to survive,from them.So to show thier gratitude,they invited the tribal leaders,and any others who wanted...To a Feast of Thank's.History books stray from the truth,from then on.They had a feast,they drank fermented drinks ,and kept their guests cups full.The last round was poision'ed ,most of the native's were dead or dying.Why would they do that when they only lived thru.the winter becuase of the native's charitable nature?No hint required...ex

[stefan segal]

Ex...there is that pattern marking the progress of missionaries efforts to convert proud aborigionals into drunks, prostitutes, thieves, and slaves, that grows boring in its repetitions throughout history.

How could anyone but the morally blind, devoid of all compassion, view the desivistation of one people after another, brought to shame and demoralization through the application of ther own efforts...and continue????

This peculiar assumption of superiority that fires these bringers of darkness...these enemys of all that is natural, and gives them license to adjudge a persons best interest is served by being dead rather than being a heritic, is a particularly ugly aberartion some (not so few) people discover and nurture in themselves.

Organizations collect these types, stuff ther pockets with religious tracts, and send them out to practice their flavor of compassion on our little brown brothers, who exist in the dark without the light of jesus...failing to note that they have been living in this fashion in excess of ten thousand years without feeling the pich of that particular deprivation.

Difficult to envision such a breed until you realize their similar nature is evident in other such types who seek their power in politics, juris prudence, or law inforcement.

If you picture cheney in a white collar dealing with stone age people...it's not such a leap to see the true nature of the breed.

Stefan

[Kismet]

We are of many people, yet we are all American.

NO



And jesus isn't in the quaran as written by Muhammad

[exarmyranger]

We are of many people, yet we are all American.

NO



And jesus isn't in the quaran as written by MuhammadI take it you mean the Qur'an.Ramadan,Islamic ,umm,festival.Fast in order to achieve a greater understanding of Allah,and the message of the Qur'an.I may have been misinformed...ex

[Kismet]

No I wrote it right. My friend is muslim and we were learning about it in school, and she correct him on spelling. And I later checked with her and she says it is

Quaran

[exarmyranger]

HMMM,the encyclopedia and your friend are in disagreement.Although personally I do'nt give a shit,anyway...ex

[Paul Revere]

Thank you for your decent reply. The Torah & Pentetauch only tell Jesus story in the foretelling sense (Old testament is prior to his birth), the dead sea scrolls reinforce both books. The Gospels and Acts of the Apostles give us the written account of his works, deeds and some of his actual words. Jesus himself wrote down nothing, did his revelations via teaching in parables (stories, as most people could not read or write anyway)and by showing miracles and humility to all. It is possible to worship false God's or God's that people truly think are their creators, etc. Populations or consceinces should not define who God is. Jesus own words ,actions, and life within scriptures reveal who he is, as well as from witnessed peoples and factors, etc.
As for knowing of no one who 'followed the path of righteousness, there are many trying to (it is never easy), many have done so and are written about via there conversions from sinfullness to righteousness...they are 1000's of Saints. As for the majority of us we have repentance and reconciliation as our tools, towards a more righteous life. You may find many Popes among them, like John Paul II, some others in history were terrible (we are humans after all)(J.P. II will most like will become a Saint) As for do we understand God and why the world is as it is? We don't know and faith is an unrevealed mystery.
The mother of God, Mary has been witnessed in more recent history with some tangible and witnessed revelation and even cures. This is worthy of learning about: Our Lady of Guadalupe around 1531 the 'tilma' worn by Juan Diego is still on display and not ruined, the tests done on it are incredibile and read the book 'Not made by human hands'; Our Lady of Lourdes more recent has documented accounts to this day of miracle cures from the waters of Lourdes (over 1200 accounts) a tourist destination currently; Our Lady of Fatima around 1930's in Spain the children witnessed many sessions and discussions, better yet the witnessed Miracle by the areas population of various peoples, which Mary told them the day and the time in advance(thousands of people there that day), it is trully something. Also, the things revealed to these children about future events, included Nazi Germany which came some years later (it is in books to read about), and the attempt on a Popes life..turned out to be John Paul II. There are others written about and perhaps time will tell if the current day Lady of Medjgourey (spelling) is authentic (the Church recognizes the others herein). It is hard to discount all of this, a message is sent forth, the Tilma thing is not perhaps widely known enough and is tangible evidence(Mexico), they have even found within the image of Mary within the Tilma...her eyes..pupils have revealed via special photography enhancements, show reflections within her pupils of various people from the account of this story (the Priest, Juan Diego etc.). Test on the tilma defy science and anything man made. A similar man made Tilma which was made similarly in materials and normal paints, lasted only 40-50 years and fell apart, this one is near 500 years old.
Interesting things to know of and consider.
(fyi-Catholics do not worship directly to Mary, she is an intercessor, just like praying for you or others...we don't worship u as a God, same goes for intercession with Saints etc.) Alot of misconceptions are out there, they can all be explained, too. (not saying I am the one to do them all either).

(there are righteous Monks within various faiths, living like Saints, still today and in the past)

[oneofakindthe3rd]

I've been hijacked! But at least it was by something worthwhile. very interesting digression guys. Now how about remembering the separation of church and state.

[exarmyranger]

I've been hijacked! But at least it was by something worthwhile. very interesting digression guys. Now how about remembering the separation of church and state.
Pat Robertson,Billy G.,Jesse J.,and how many other men/women of God(who sermonize via radio/T.V.)became or are in the proccess of becoming wealthy,by bringing the gospel into Mr.Mrs.J.Q.Publics living rooms.I myself not having had any conversation(s)with God,would gladly live out the remainder of my life suffering,with the paitence of Job.To "know"what I feel is un-knowable.Faith,in God or whatever one's choice of deity's is called is all well and good,and I suppose it offers comfort too.For me a Bulldog,and a mini 14 with a few extra clips works.Please tell me,what are the chances of any one running for public office(local/state/fed.gov.)on a platform of church vrs. state,(Just getting on the Ballot,to run;albeit winning)in your opinion.IMO no chance what so ever...I have expressed my veiw on religous organizations several times here...so not to be repetitive I will refrain myself from replying to post's of a religious nature.I will continue to read other opinions offered,of theological content,to be sure...as they are usually good for a laugh,if nothing else. ex

[Paul Revere]

I will not post more on the subject and appreciate you guys being rather decent about replying to such as the world is full of intolerance. Not all religious organizations are the same (fyi), but it is easier to so called justify things in a lump sum. Same concepts permeate ethnic thinkings and other things within our culture and we all have some biases.

Peace my brothers

[Hog Trash]

You're young but your pen is mighty. You write with conviction and the beauty of a good heart. You make me want to grow my hair long and walk the earth preaching peace and spreading brotherly love. I have goose-bumps. I have some good news for you. There are more good people in the world than there are bad people. The good people would and do feed and love the needy including the bad. But the bad people would consume the good and destroy all the good they have accomplished. Human beings would once again be living in caves and trees. And that is why the good are justified when they take drastic measures to defend themselves, their loved ones and their way of life from those bad people who would destroy it. Maybe in a thousand or maybe even a hundred years from now your dream will come true. By the way, a couple thousand years ago a fella named Jesus started the cause you're fighting for. Peace dude.

[Bill]

A blast from the fuckin past.

[Cat slave]

I've been hijacked! But at least it was by something worthwhile. very interesting digression guys. Now how about remembering the separation of church and state.


Dont feel rained on....hijacking seems to be the new pass time of the mentally
challenged.