Reasons why "Way Forward" probably is doomed [Archive] - DC Junkies Political Message Board

Paul Revere

01-13-2007, 03:17 PM

Looking at this proposal and what it is supposed to accomplish seems almost ridiculous for many reasons. Here are things that maybe are worth thinking about in general:

1) Iraqies being Muslim mostly, are unknowing of democracy and freedom and would not understand it probably.
2) Being Muslim you live your life as political-cultural-religion all in one "gig" no separation of those, as we see in our cultural ways
3) Most Muslims probably endorse and follow the Koran which is the cornerstone of their religion. (the word of Alah via Muhammed) Which does not have freedom or democracy written within it, as we would know it. We are the infidel and should be killed...it is written within the Koran and other such garbage and other things of anti love of neighbor (unless you are a Muslim).
4) 4 plus years over there and we have the current results?????????
5) I heard on a radio talk show interview, that someone knowledgable of this war was mentioning things like this: when our soldiers pickup people for arrest and detaining, we need 1 witness (because of Abu Graib) and they have to fill out paperwork. Then worse yet, 8 out of 10 of these so called felons or whatevers..are let back unto the streets, free and clear. This is prosecuting a war?????????? Must be scared of maybe like the ACLU?
6) the slogan of winning hearts and minds- has shown very little fruit and perhaps the opposite
7) these factions of people there wish to have civil wars amongest themselves (goes against the Koran probably too), to have control and power of oil revenues and politics. This will no doubt be what happens in the future. (is this what Alah wants?) (cheap humor injected)
8) Iran and others are funding and jihading this in an effort to kill democracy, because if it were to be achieved the rest of these international losers would be out of a job and perhaps find the gallows or beheading.
9) my opinion is that we are policing a so called war and not taking it to them in bold efforts. If we were, we would disarm probably all people (with force) and kill or lock up all insurgents or enemies. Wars are not pretty and should not have paperwork and permission slips if you intend to win. Someone has to be defeated in wars (see history), looks like we are going to lose the will.
10) maybe we cannot prosecute this as a real war (like WWI or WWII) because of a global consquences (the U.N. has to be included-most they are non-democratic) and leaders being held to possible "War Criminal" status.
11) we cannot discern the enemy, no uniforms, cowards plant bombs at night and some are willing to die as suiciders, something we are unnaccustomed to
12) they will lie and cheat unto us infidels (written in the Koran) justified to lie to us, so none of them are trustworthy enough for real government, etc.

So, we will probably waste more lives and money on this war.:banghead: Mean while Iran, N. Korea and others are hoping to do us in too.
I do have some faith in our technologies (Stealth bombers) etc., if and when they become needed and hopefully we don't need the ACLU to tell us when they are necessary. Our enemies are drooling right now, time will tell.:hi:
Do you see a bright future based upon current events and leadership in the world and the doing at the U.N.? If so reply back with some stuff, I need a pick me up.
*opinions are from average Joe american (infidel #898454578)

Moby

01-13-2007, 04:58 PM

Welcome to the board Paul.

I think the main reason why this will fail is simply that Dubya has been wrong about everything to do with the war so why would any sane person think that this time he's right? He basically said in his last speech that everyone that he bashed for opposing him was right. That he's been wrong about every statement he's made and he's sorry. If he was truly sorry he would step down and walk away.

Outside of Dubya, the main problem is that we removed the Sunnis and put the Shiias in power. The Shiias will always align themselves with Iran. Now we have to have open talks with Iran if we want to stabilize Iraq. Dubya and Condi are too immature to do this so the fighting will continue until we kill all the Shiias or put another strong Sunni dictator in Iraq.

The other option is too simply split the country into 3 parts. Turkey gets the Kurdish North. Iran gets the Shiia East and Saudi Arabia and the USA get the Sunni West. The problem is that Turkey and Iran end up with all the oil. We get peace but we made ourselves weaker then we were in 2000.

Paul Revere

01-15-2007, 10:26 AM

Thanks back and your insight smells pretty good to me. Maybe the 3 part harmony program is a possible gig. I doubt their future in any event. Probably another Sadamie will come into power and they would like it.

Moby

01-19-2007, 11:36 AM

Do you think the way forward is going to be bailout of Iraq and invade Iran?

Betty Blowtorch

01-19-2007, 02:15 PM

Invade Iran?

Bush is stupid, but not that stupid. He doesn't have enough troops
to pacify Iraq, let alone invade Iran, a bigger, more populous nation.
The scary part is: he would if he could, but fortunately he can't.

The attack on Iran will be primarily an attack from the air. Bush has
deployed two carrier task forces to the Persian Gulf in preparation
for the aerial bombardment of Iran.

Israel, acting as Bush's proxy, will start the shit by bombing Iran's
underground nuclear facilities with bunker-busting bombs (some of
which have small nuclear warheads.) Hopefully the Israelis won't
use their nuclear bunker-busters, they'll use the ones containing
conventional high explosives.

If the Israelis go nuclear, you better start digging a fallout shelter
in your backyard. Be sure to stock up on canned goods and guns.
And don't forget to buy gas masks and radiation suits. You'll need
them in the brave new world to come.

Once the Israelis bomb Iran, the Iranians will retaliate by using
cruise missiles to sink ships in the Straits of Hormuz, which will
cut off the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf. The price of oil will
jump to over $100 a barrel, gas prices will jump to $10 a gallon,
and the world's economy will go into a tailspin.

Once the Iranians retaliate, our carrier groups in the Persian Gulf
will retaliate, then somebody else will retaliate, and then we'll be
having some real fun.

Exciting times ahead. Be sure to stock up on popcorn and beer
because you won't be able to do a damn thing except sit back
and watch the end of the world, televised live.

Praise Jesus.

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"Hey, don't blame this crap on me.
I've been trying to slap some sense
into this Bush bastard for 60 years,
but he's dumber than a sack of shit.
You're the idiots who elected him."

Paul Revere

01-19-2007, 03:59 PM

The war gig and it's future????? I could only guess, but based upon these indigenious peoples and their 2000 years plus of history. I see Forest Gump saying "Stupid is, as stupid does". Closed minds, closed hearts, closed society, women are treated lesser than a camel it seems, they wish evil and demise on all non-believers, without love and charity unto them. Their brothers in Afghanistan export the world's heroin as a righteous way to make a buck (farming). I would like to see better examples of humanity from amongest them, they do not seem to denounce the terrorist acts and killings of infidels and Christians etc., via there global sects. Therefore it is most difficult to to love them as thy neighbor, while my head is being cut off. I would like to, so let us see their future acts. Do they support world peace or jihad.
Guessing a civil war that will make Saddam look like a nice guy, in comparison.

Peace does not come cheap

Betty Blowtorch

01-20-2007, 04:13 PM

Do you see a bright future based upon current events
and leadership in the world?
I see a VERY bright future ahead of us.

Bright RED.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4448/atomicbomb2pz.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1515/atomicbombdakotacolor5nh.jpg

01-20-2007, 07:10 PM

its always the same here. Bush is bad, Bush is bad. You guys are just a bunch of Liberal cry babies.
this is exactly why I left this board. do any of you have any solutions. Any at all??????

stefan segal

01-20-2007, 07:43 PM

AJ...voting out the repug control of the houses was the first step...further legislations are cutting away at the nexus of power and corruption.

The butch crime family with neocon PNAC and other greedy amoral psychopaths, have been successfully re-enacting hitler's game plan, step by step.

Right now, they're about to attack Poland...sneak attack, as is thier practice...using diplomacy only as another means to put the rest of the world to sleep.

AJ...in your understanding of how things work...does it strike you that like a doctor, who must first identify the disease, then identify its source before moving to cure it....is much like how the rest of huge interconnected multilayered organisms and organizations...such as government workings, when trying to correct a cancer or the invasion of a butch into its multifaced works?

AJ...did you come back to this list to lead us out of our darkness?

Do you exonerate yourself from the responsibilty of pushing for the cure of those administation crimes that are the focus of this list...and now stand confident standing to the side and throwing stones?

You have appeared, albeit briefly, only in an attempt to hinder rather than help with those areas you see in need of help..what sort of individual are you...curious minds want to know,

Stefan

01-20-2007, 08:14 PM

exarmyranger

01-20-2007, 08:18 PM

I am,about as far from being a cry baby,as you are of being correct in your opinion...Do you,find our Commander in Chief,and his disreguard of The People,and the document the founding fathers wrote to protect against those who would abuse/misuse,the power given them by majority vote?As far as soluitions.Many are proposed,some take root but never grow to bear fruit...Yet.How about you?Any soluitions?Please share your plan(s)for a better future...Devine intervention has been used,so you gotta do better than...Jesus.ex

01-20-2007, 08:38 PM

exarmyranger

01-20-2007, 09:31 PM

ExArmyRanger
its not my place to offer solutions. I stand with our president.
I believe the troop increase can work and he deserves another chance to finish what he started

delivering democracy to the people of Iraq is a noble cause.
If we pulled out now the Iraqis would be slaughtered and the country would be left to the mercy of the insurgents. Who would see a pullout of American Troops as a victory and that would embolden their terror recruiting efforts

Its Hard to believe that you cant see that :banghead:Yo AJ,Oh I see that ,all too well,and I must agree in part.It is too late to turn back now.However if success is achieved in Iraq...what then,or whos next?No simple fare thee well,we're outta here,will be possible.When the cat is away... I spent a total of 22yrs.Army 6yrs,then 16 with the Civilian Military Service.Logistical/Field Ops,advisory staff...I value the Constitution and its Premise,and what I believed worth any cost,and I was willing to die/kill to protect/preserve...But Bush is far and away the most dangerous,power mad jerk who ever held the office of President...In my humble opinion...ex

Jesse Hemingway

01-20-2007, 09:39 PM

Steffan

all that text and still no solutions, no ideas and of course no answers.
All you offer is more finger pointing and Liberal propaganda.

Our president is a great man, A Religious man. A man that has stood up and accepted the challange of working tediously to make you and your family safer

Are you for real?

Bush would not be the first lunatic religious man nor the last, if it is a plan your looking for then how about this one the United States pack up and leave Iraq yesterday.

To do list in Iraq
Remove WMD’s done via lie by religious man
Remove dictator done
Start democracy done

To do list in Afghanistan
Kill AL-CIA-DA not done
Remove Taliban not done
Declare victory done another lie by the religious man
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Betty Blowtorch

01-20-2007, 10:11 PM

Our president is a great man, A Religious man. A man
that has stood up and accepted the challange of working
tediously to make you and your family safer
You're kidding, right? http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5079/drunkirish0484zn.gif

I mean, you can't be serious. http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7848/lol0453pu.gif

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9240/hahaha0242hg.gif (He's kidding, right?) http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9240/hahaha0242hg.gif

Betty Blowtorch

01-20-2007, 11:27 PM

Its not my place to offer solutions. I stand with our president.

Talk is cheap.

If you really believe in your President's war, prove it.
Head straight down to your local Army recruiter and
tell him you want to kill ragheads for Christ.
You're just the kind of wingnut he's looking for. http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/3296/avatararmysmiley6ke.gif

I believe the troop increase can work and he deserves
another chance to finish what he started.

And I heartily support your right http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8224/nazitroops1yi.gif
to join the ranks of those troops
dumb enough to fight and die for
Dubya's Disaster in the Desert.

Delivering democracy to the people of Iraq is a noble cause.

"Thank you so very much for giving me democracy, AJ."

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"Now if you can give me my arms and legs back, I'll be all set."

If we pulled out now, the Iraqis would be slaughtered.
Earth to AJ:

In case you haven't heard, Iraqis are already being slaughtered
at the rate of about 100 a day.

Thanks to your President.

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01-21-2007, 12:53 PM

Kinky Jones

01-21-2007, 01:11 PM

they should make gay people pay higher taxes

:thumbsup:

pay no attention to AJ he is a religious sheep that needs to be lead by his hand by some fictional character

Betty Blowtorch

01-21-2007, 01:39 PM

Can we try and be fair and open minded. Please try
and remember that just because we didn't find any
Nuclear Weapons doesn't mean they never existed.
Stock piles of Sarin and Mustard gas were found.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

You dug up an old story from Fox News that was subsequently
discredited by the Pentagon.

Lets not forget Saddam-Iraq is the only country
to use Nerve Agents on the battlefield.
Do you know anything at all about history?
Ever heard of a little conflict called World War I?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_gas_in_World_War_I

If Bush is so wrong How come all of your democratic leaders
like Clinton, Pelosi and Biden voted for this war. President bush
addressed Congress and they had the chance to vote it down.
It is not his war, It is their war.

Four years ago, Congress and the American people didn't know
that the Bush gang was lying when they painted scary pictures
of mushroom clouds over Manhattan, Saddam's ties to al-Qaida,
yellowcake uranium from Niger, etc.

Now everybody knows that the Bush gang was lying.
Everybody except you and your hardcore wingnut pals.

Your Partisan thinking has blinded you
AJ, in case you hadn't noticed, since the Repugs got their
asses kicked in the midterm elections, your wingnut buddies
have been abandoning Bush's sinking ship in droves.

When will you open your eyes and see the truth?

stefan segal

01-21-2007, 02:23 PM

GO ...BLOWTORCH !!!!!!! :)

Stefan

exarmyranger

01-21-2007, 02:57 PM

GO ...BLOWTORCH !!!!!!! :)

StefanYeah,what you said,Stefan."Go Betty...Go Betty"."Tell it like it is"...Nothing to add,carry on...ex

Moby

01-21-2007, 03:34 PM

Can we try and be fair and open minded. Please try and remember that just because we didn't find any Nuclear Weapons doesn't mean that they never existed. Stock piles of Sarin and Mustard gas were found
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

Lets not forget Saddam-Iraq is the only country to use Nerve Agents on the battlefield

If Bush is so wrong How come all of your democratic leaders like Clinton, Pelosi and Biden voted for this war. President bush addressed Congress and they had the chance to vote it down. It is not his war, It is their war

How come I never hear anything about how wrong Pelosi was ?
Why don't you attack her for voting for this war.

Why ??? Because your Partisan thinking has blinded you
Good to see you back AJ. :thumbsup:

Trust me on this. I blame everyone that voted for the war as they caved into political presure placed mostly by Cheney and friends. I believe they all knew that the admin was lying but what could you do? People wanted revenge and if you didn't vote for it they called you unpatriotic and said that you're eiterh with us or against us. The same approach used by Hitler and Darth Vader. Pelosi, Clinton, Biden and most everyone was WRONG to vote for the war. They were all using intel that was controlled by Dubya and Cheney so please keep that in mind.

Now that we're that there, Dubya even admitted that he's bungled every aspect of the war and that we weren't winning and our mission was never accomplished. Admitting his mistakes may be a first part but now he's doing the exact same thing. He's ignoring the Ira study group, firing anyone that disagrees with him and claiming that no other alternatives exists.

I blame everyone that voted for the war but I put the most blame on those that controlled the intel.

For wasting $billions of tax payer dollars, American lives and years of time? That blame goes to the commander and chief and there's no way around that.

BTW - What they found were remains of the gas that we gave Saddam to control his country and keep Iran in line.

Jesse Hemingway

01-21-2007, 04:00 PM

A J come out and play :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

01-21-2007, 07:17 PM

I am here Jessie

Betty I didn't dig up any article
I keep that article handy in my favorites menu and your right about one thing talk is very cheap. almost every Liberal proves that point
and for your information I have served my country

and yes I do believe that Gay people should pay higher taxes
A sort of sin tax. just like the higher taxes of beer and cigarette's.
their way of life is a corrupting force in a nation founded on christian principle's. If they don't want to pay the extra taxes they always have the option of counseling

President Bush never lied. As I stated before just because Nuclear Weapons weren't found that doesn't prove they never existed.
better safe then sorry

The group of you would be better served getting your news from a non partisan source. try and stay away from those far left websites why not try something a little more middle of the road. I would suggest giving Sean Hannity a try at 9pm EST weekdays on Fox

stefan segal

01-21-2007, 07:56 PM

AJ...YOU ARE A SICKO DUDE...MORE IN-THE-BONE-TWISTED THAN ANN COULTER..IF ANYONE NEEDS COUNCILING IT'S YOU...BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE A COUNCILAR HAVING THE STOMACH TO LOOK INTO WHAT MAKES YOU TICK.

Stefan

01-21-2007, 08:07 PM

Instead of insulting me why not try and debate my points.
because you know you will lose

its always the same story with you loony liberals
free speech, free speech but the very second someone doesn't buy into your BS there's no more free speech just insults

this country needs to return to its core christian values

"Search the record of history. To walk away from the Almighty is to embrace decline for a nation, To embrace Him leads to renewal, for individuals and for nations." - Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan

stefan segal

01-21-2007, 08:15 PM

AJ...you want me to debate why homosexuals should or shouldn't pay higher taxes???

You want me to debate why or why not we should choose a group of citizens to discriminate against because of thier personal preferences?

Only a facist even thinks up such shit...you believe in christ just like your president...I know because of the smell.

Stefan

Moby

01-21-2007, 11:17 PM

Instead of insulting me why not try and debate my points.
because you know you will lose

this country needs to return to its core christian values

OK, I'll play.

Q. In what year did the word "God" become part of American anything? :)

Moby

01-21-2007, 11:19 PM

President Bush never lied.
Didn't you watch Dubya's last speech? He admitted that he lied about winning Iraq. He admitted that he lied about staying with Rumsfeld. He admitted that our mission was NOT accomplished.

He admitted to 3 lies. He did this in front of millions or at least dozens of people.

Since when do Christian values include lies?

Betty Blowtorch

01-21-2007, 11:24 PM

AJ...YOU ARE A SICKO DUDE...
MORE IN-THE-BONE-TWISTED THAN ANN COULTER...
IF ANYONE NEEDS COUNCILING IT'S YOU...
BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE A COUNCILOR HAVING THE
STOMACH TO LOOK INTO WHAT MAKES YOU TICK.

Stefan
Thanks, Stefan, that cracked me up.http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5694/jump6gh.gif

More twisted than Ann Coulter? http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3578/avataranncoulter7am.gif
Is that humanly possible?

Jesse Hemingway

01-22-2007, 12:01 AM

Kismet

01-22-2007, 11:33 AM

Israel isn't going to ever attack Iran with nukes.

Kismet

01-22-2007, 11:36 AM

ExArmyRanger
its not my place to offer solutions. I stand with our president.
I believe the troop increase can work and he deserves another chance to finish what he started

delivering democracy to the people of Iraq is a noble cause.
If we pulled out now the Iraqis would be slaughtered and the country would be left to the mercy of the insurgents. Who would see a pullout of American Troops as a victory and that would embolden their terror recruiting efforts

Its Hard to believe that you cant see that :banghead:

So the Democrats have to offer solutions but you guys are the ones who screw it all up and you don't have to do anything.. What?
The iraquis are already gettting slaughtered. They already see everything short of bombing the shit out of them a victory.
Plus thanks to our president who is as you say a great man(that can be argued) most of the world hates us. ANd not without reason either.

If that is a noble cause than why Iraq plenty of countries needing more help then them but did we help them????
no

Moby

01-22-2007, 12:03 PM

Personally I'd like to hear AJ's points on these issues. I've asked him to clearly state them before and he disappeared and I would like to take him up on his challenge.

Please don't chase him away. I really want to understand the logic behind his emotions and thoughts. Everyone hear is just getting emotional and attacking back.

Let's try to understand the man and see if he rally has facts to support his comments. OK?

Kismet

01-22-2007, 01:27 PM

and yes I do believe that Gay people should pay higher taxes
A sort of sin tax. just like the higher taxes of beer and cigarette's.
their way of life is a corrupting force in a nation founded on christian principle's. If they don't want to pay the extra taxes they always have the option of counseling

Please tell me you are joking by all of that! THat is horrible, people who are gay should have just as much rights as the people that are straight. There is nothing wrong with being gay.

Also why should our country be any religion? Why can't the country just stay without a religion so all religions and races have the ability to worship how ever they want.

Kismet

01-22-2007, 01:30 PM

I am not getting emotional . I am commenting to his replies. He is the one saying that liberals and democrats don't ever do anything other than complain , just proving one of yet another of his points invalid.
We aren't scaring him away by what we do. If he cares enough about he subject he will come back till he stops caring.

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01-22-2007, 01:58 PM

Please tell me you are joking by all of that! THat is horrible, people who are gay should have just as much rights as the people that are straight. There is nothing wrong with being gay.

Excuse me, but I never said anything about taking rights away from Gays.

Smokers pay a higher tax and so do wealthy people. There are all sorts of extra taxes that target specific groups like for instance a luxury tax. The democrats want to tax the well to do and take their hard earned income and redistribute that income to the poor

why should I have to pay for all of these court issues and legislation for civil unions

exarmyranger

01-22-2007, 03:15 PM

The phrase,"I think,therefore I am",does'nt mean,"I think,therefore I am,right...one nation under God?(as long as your anglo,and can make your morgage,car,credit card,and insurance(Home,Health,Car,Life)payments;after Taxes...and still feed and clothe your family.May as well throw your loose change in the church donations basket.So you'll be welcome at St.Peters gate.I have never understood why mankind need's to believe in an afterlife...we alone,(among,all the earths creatures) refuse to except death as a natural ending to a life that began at our birth.When a person die's due to something other than old age,(accident,illness)when they are seinior citizens,people say "well he/she had alot of good years"When middle aged its..."such a shame/pity he/she was "taken"... had thier whole life in front of them."When a child,or young adult dies,"It was Gods Will"...Go Figure...ex

stefan segal

01-22-2007, 03:37 PM

Actually it is the one's who make no civil distinction between gays, Blacks,Jews, short people, fat people, blonds, redheads, IQ's (within limits)...etc., that would be unfairly taxed, while YOU and your ilk, who find yourself affronted, have caused the problem in the first place.

The actuarial tables of life insurance corps. enclude all the people of the country...they also rate the risk of all the most common accident, illnesses, and employment hazards of all those people. You would be surprised to find how evenly the death rate is distributed among all groups...even though some groups have genetic susceptability to certain illnesses while others do not.

Medical insurance has like tables and everything is measured from medical condition and age...much like a used car purchase...and these tables are a smoothe curve also without spikes connected to homosexuals (aside from the innitial aids breakout..a new and deadly disease we needed to learn how to deal with first before it rejoined the curve..junkies not included, due to not insured).

So the way it would shake out AJ, is that I would wind up paying for you and your ilk...,the ones who want to select a single group from the whole for special treatment...whereas, you have more than just deserve to pay, you should share in butch's responsibilities for his crimes against humanity, for you idiot support of his acts.

If anyone was considering which "faith" to join...seeing the filth that you call your mind, would certaily turn them away from any "faith" you espoused...make them fear what a jesus cult could also do to their mind.

Stefan
Ps. Moby...I tried to do what you asked. I even started out in robotic mode, but the blood boils and I could only hold back 60%..I'm afraid the other 40 slipped through my fingers...too much pressure to hold it.

01-22-2007, 04:01 PM

Steffan - Are you gay ???

your post gave me a lot of good ideas for arguments. You might find this interesting but I am actually registered as a democrat. This allows me to vote in primaries for the person most likely to lose the election

and I write a lot of letters and emails to the DNC about gay marriage and Abortion and of course since I am a registered democrat they listen to my views

we might wanna get back to the thread at hand which is the war

I believe this war is directly tied to the war on terror and someday the Iraqi's will have a strong democracy and they will owe us a great debt of gratitude. Al Qaeda will lose Iraq as a recruiting ground

Kismet

01-22-2007, 04:12 PM

Its the filthy rich hoo need more taxes than the ppl really poor.

Betty Blowtorch

01-22-2007, 07:10 PM

Israel isn't going to ever attack Iran with nukes.
I hope you're right. Any sane person hopes you're right.
Bombing Iran's nuclear facilities would be madness.

But it wouldn't be the first time that Israel has launched
air strikes which destroyed a neighbor's nuclear facilities.
In 1981, Israel bombed Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor.

The attack on Osirak taught the Iranians to build their
nuclear facilities deep underground in fortified concrete
bunkers that may only be destroyed by nuclear-tipped
bunker-busting bombs.

Bush has fired the top generals who disagree with his
escalation of the fiasco in the Mideast. He has placed
Navy Admiral Fallon as head of Central Command in Iraq,
which is obviously a land war, not a naval war.

Two aircraft carrier groups have been deployed to the
Persian Gulf. These carrier forces are virtually useless
for pacifying the Iraqi insurgency, but they would be
in a perfect position to respond to Iranian retaliation
following an aerial attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

If Israel attacks Iran, and Iran retaliates with missiles
fired at Israel or at ships in the Persian Gulf, this would
give Bush the excuse he needs to attack Iran without
looking like the aggressor.

I think Bush desperately wants to provoke a war with
Iran. He just wants to make it look like the Iranians
attacked us first.

Over the next couple of months, keep your eyes and
ears open for the signs of an approaching attack.

Jesse Hemingway

01-22-2007, 10:58 PM

Prominent lobbyist Perle: U.S. will attack Iran if it obtains nukes 22 Jan 2007 President [sic] George Bush will order an attack on Iran if it becomes clear to him that Iran is set to acquire nuclear weapons capabilities while he is still in office, Richard Perle told the Herzliya Conference on Sunday.

http://www.legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=816046

Betty Blowtorch

01-27-2007, 07:17 PM

The anti-war blogosphere is buzzing about the possibility that
Israel and the U.S. will attack Iran's nuclear facilities within
a few months.

An essay on Smirking Chimp suggests that Bush's ventriloquist
(aka Dick Cheney) will order Israel to launch its aerial attack
on Iran as a "Wag the Dog" tactic to divert attention away
from the Scooter Libby trial which appears to be focusing
on The Big Dick's dirty tricks.

http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/5084

Betty Blowtorch

01-28-2007, 09:10 PM

He's really gonna do it!

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2989/bushbombrideoc1.jpg

It's really gonna happen!

If you think all the talk about the impending attack on Iran
is just left-wing Bush-hating paranoia, here's a warning
from a right-wing Reagan Republican:

http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=10411

stefan segal

01-28-2007, 10:00 PM

Inquiring minds want to know:

AJ wants to know..."--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Steffan - Are you gay ???"

If I said yes...would you want to kiss me? Joking aside AJ, if I told you I lusted after jesus' ass, would you still love him enough to take sloppy seconds?

You know...now that I think about it...a person's private life shouldn't be of such interest to christians...if they are christian. But you act more like the leaders of your movement...fascinated in all those perversions...hiring male prostitutes, molesting boy scouts while they're looking the other way for jesus.

What's you interest in where and whom I put my dick...are you applying for a position...butt-boy...pissboy? But then I must remember it's traditional with you biggots to be concerned that no one exceeds your own perversions, or worse...appear to be enjoying it more.

I'll give you a test that you can apply to all those questionable devients you want to determine what they do in the privacy of their bedrooms. I just thought this up for you...and it's brilliant, if I have to say so myself.

The beauty of it is, that you don't have to grossly announce you ignorance and biggotry as you did with me...you can test people without them knowing their being tested...even if you test 100 people...it still works with the same effeciency.

Here it is: when you spot a suspect homosexual, approach him in your usual manner, but this time, when you got your mouth around it, look up and see if he's smiling down at you with fondness...if he is...then proof positive...he's gay...if he jumps around attempting to shake you off him, scowling and cursing...then he's either straight, or late for an appointment.

You don't have to thank me...I'd do the same for any idiot.

Stefan