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The American Centurians
01-13-2007, 11:38 AM
"DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL OF CONGRESS--NOW WHAT?"

This week, the new U.S. Congress session was initiated. For the first time in twelve years, the House and Senate will be led by the Democrats. The last election sent a clear message by the voters for a change. The change has now taken place. Nancy Pelosi will assume the position of Speaker of the House--the first woman in history to do so. She occupies an extremely important and powerful political position. Let us not forget that the House of Representatives has a very significant hammer at it's disposal--control of the money with the ability to grant funding or withhold funding on all government expenditures.

As always, each new Congressional session promises all kinds of great achievements often followed by dismal results. The prior Republican led Congress was nicknamed the "do nothing Congress". It is much too early to guess or determine if the new Democratic led Congress will earn the same dubious distinction. Time obviously will tell as President Bush "works" with the new Congress and the new Congress "works" with President Bush. Regardless of all the rhetoric, nonpartisan efforts in the best interests of the country are unlikely to occur as usual unless politicians, to include the President, decide to compromise and work together for the people instead of themselves!

The new Democrat controlled Congress came to power based on one very important voter concern--the Iraq War. It was a clear message and one that the Democrats should not forget. The voters wanted a change and now the voters will await to see the changes. This is a lesson the Democrats should not forget as they take over leadership of the Congress. The same people elected to office on promises not delivered can easily be removed from office during the next election.

The Democratic leadership has laid out a eight point agenda to be resolved immediately during the first 100 hours of legislative session:

(1) Toughen House ethics rules

(2) Initiate and enforce "pay as you go" budget rules

(3) Adopt 9/11 Commisssion recommendations

(4) Raise the federal minimum wage

(5) Promote and fund embryonic stem cell research

(6) Negotiate lower Medicare prescription drug prices for seniors

(7) Reduce interest rates on student loans

(8) Roll back tax breaks for energy companies (like oil)

The above issues are good and will hopefully be successful. They are essentially "no brainers". Who would really disagree? Don't worry though there will be plenty of disagreement. However, they pale in comparison to the difficulty and impact of resolving the following issues:

(1) The future of the war effort in Iraq

(2) Immigration reform, control and enforcement

(3) Restoring the industrial base in this country for future employment of Americans in a global economy

Americans are not particularly interested in which political party controls Congress. They are only interested in our politicians focusing and resolving issues which effect them and their families now and in the future. Americans are tired of the same old rhetoric with no results. We will keep track of the success of our new legislators. Much is expected. Time will tell how much is delivered!

The time has come for the voters (you and I) to demand results based on the best interests of America and it's citizens. It is time for the voters to exercise their power and let our elected politicians know that they work for us and will be fired if they cannot get the job done. It is time for the voters to keep our elected politicians accountable to their bosses--you and I! To do so, you and I (the voters) must take the time and responsibility to become well informed on the issues of interest to us all!

Alan :thumbsup:

www.theamericancenturians.com

Paul Revere
01-13-2007, 02:48 PM
We see heavy biases and agendas on all sides and issues. Seems truth and righteousness is relative and grey areas on most things these days. My opinion is we unknowns and little people of no lobbying and money are the sheep headed for slaughter. Do we get adequate representation or is big business and lobbying and politicians getting things more their way? We don't even get real truth from our politicians anymore, this is a clue.

I am disgusted with both parties of power and inactions and actions of the last 10 years or so. Bottom line is in my opinion (could be worthless), our country will not make it another 100 years for these types of reasons:

We are bankrupt:
1) morally
2) financially
3) in leadership
4) greed, power mongers without charity
5) culture of death (many reasons..does not support life or value it)
6) lies, spins, half truths and no accountability (usually)
7) immigration fiascos
8) border securities and enforcement upon illegals and aliens
9) deficits largest in history (Fed), red ink in 37 states, M3 money supply is no longer published by Fed Reserve System (wonder why?) but can be monitored at www.shadowstats.com/cgi-bin/sgs/data
10) consumer debts and mortgages are largest debts in history and many zero mortages are seeming toward foreclosure (bubble problems)
11) our wealth is coming from mergers and acquisitions, not from manufacturing, as we loose those jobs daily

Many more exist of course. I would not trust the stock market (which looks very appealing right now)in the longer run, it went up prior to 1929 also. (but that is your call not mine)
:disbelief:

(little venting going on too...thanks for viewing without sending back arrows)

stefan segal
01-13-2007, 03:55 PM
First I agree with all the ills specified in paul's enumerations...as centurian mentions, the repugs have had the whip hand for most of the last 12 years...(and when they did briefly have a grip on it...somehow they were too busy waring with 'the big dog', to be effectual...but the repugs are responsible for the whole of that list.

The dems have clocked 27 hours...and in those hours they passed four bills.

The one centurian calls no brainers. If they were so blatently obvious to all...then how is the repugs not only didn't allow them to pass, they loaded each measure with pork deal-breakers, to insure they didn't pass.

I*f you get into the ethics issue's nuts and bolts, you will note, debated on the house floor, that it was a large step not in playing nice...as you are seeming to infer, but establishing the tools and rules to curb lobby influences.

It had to do with oversight and penalties...including jail time. It also questioned and acted on the "revolving door", where legislators are insured officer positions in mega compamnies while they still hold office and voting on the very rules that impinged or amplify that industry's bottom line.

They stripped the pork off the minimum wage and passed it.

Right now, they are fighting butch for the lives of 12000 men (7 times the number he killed making WTC his personal pearl harbor).

If you were harboring such high expectations...why have you waited until after the repugs solid grip on both houses was weakened?

Hell if you spoke up last year, the repugs could have passed anything without checks and balances...without two party representation.

Now you bleat about things not going fast enough for you, when the dems have to struggle with a slim margin and are taking the time (which the repugs abjured) to insure the debate of each issue, brought to the floor IN DAYLIGHT, with adequate time alloted for Constitutional government to proceed as it's framer's intended.

Stefan

Moby
01-13-2007, 04:44 PM
Paul, your link doesn't work and it would be nice to see the M3 reports again.

Moby
01-13-2007, 04:49 PM
I think the dems are moving forward at a pretty good pace. They've removed huge amounts of pork from some of the bills and we may see pork spending go back to BD (before Dubya) days.

They've passed many of the bills with veto proof majorities and even though Dubya has promised to veto stem cell research and lowering drug prices for seniors he may not have the power when those pass.

I do find it interesting that the repubs are complaining about everything that being passed. At some point last year all of these items were all bills and the repubs wanted them passed then. The difference is that $billion in pork have been removed.

So now why are they bad ideas again?

stefan segal
01-14-2007, 03:30 PM
Here's a comparison of Dems and repug performance !

Stefan


http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/01/webb-does-more-for-troops-in-one-day.html

Friday, January 12, 2007
Webb Does More For Troops in One Day Than Allen Did In Years
Keeping a promise he made on the campaign trail in 2006, Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) did more for the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan on his first day in the Senate than the man he ousted, George Felix Allen, did in the entire previous Congress.

Going unnoticed in the frenzy of Democrats assuming control of Capitol Hill and George W. Bush seeking to plunge the country deeper into the Iraq quagmire, Webb introduced the Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2007, legislation that will provide the newest Veterans with educational benefits like those received by men and women who served in the three decades following World War II.

"As a veteran who hails from a family with a long history of military service, I am proud to offer this bill as my first piece of legislation in the United States Senate," said Webb, in introducing his bill last week. "The G.I. bill program was designed to help veterans readjust to civilian life, avoid high levels of unemployment, and give veterans the opportunity to receive the education and training that they missed while bravely serving in the military."

Webb, a former Secretary of the Navy and a highly-decorated Vietnam Veteran, introduced his legislation to provide enhanced benefits to those serving in the military since September 11, 2001. It will replace the Montgomery G.I. Bill, to which military personnel must contribute -- while earning a low active-duty salary anyway -- and which only provides financial support of up to $800 per month for educational expenses, which may not cover the cost of a full college education.

The Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act will pay for Veterans' tuition, books, fees, and other training costs, while also providing a monthly stipend of $1,000 for living expenses, thus making it much more possible for a large number of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan to actually be able to complete a college education and build a better life.

tellitlikeitis
01-14-2007, 04:56 PM
I am one of the few Republicans who is happy that the Dems one. I am consider myself a farely conservative person. It seems in the past the congress and the pres actually get things done when you have both parties actually forced to work together.

exarmyranger
01-14-2007, 08:05 PM
Seems as though (with the exception of 1 or 2 jerks)"you know who you are!" every thread posted & reply's.Have recently been in the same vein,as both the lib&con,rep&dem,here anyway... agree on several issues.Refreshing for myself,I thought an agree to disagree,posistion was a vast improvement over the"Did So/Did Not,Will To/Will Not,Wayyy/Wayyy Not!" Mature adults debate children&fool's argue...t/c ya'll...ex.

stefan segal
01-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Seems as though (with the exception of 1 or 2 jerks)"you know who you are!" every thread posted & reply's.Have recently been in the same vein,as both the lib&con,rep&dem,here anyway... agree on several issues.Refreshing for myself,I thought an agree to disagree,posistion was a vast improvement over the"Did So/Did Not,Will To/Will Not,Wayyy/Wayyy Not!" Mature adults debate children&fool's argue...t/c ya'll...ex.
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That's because there's no retards posting of late that can't be reached without (or with) lowering to the level of the content offered.

If someone posts scoffingly...the sky is not blue...in fact the sky was never blue...and could never be blue...how does one intelligently respond?

You must speak of sky...you must speak of blue...then you must take into consideration that you are resaponding to an idiot..maybe you shouldn't respond to idiots...just as you shouldn't feed the animals at the zoo.

But then there may be readers, lurkers who read the sky isn't blue...you know, readers whose display is in Braille..and wonder...next thing you know, they'll be voting repuglican.

So it becomes the duty of those who uphold the light, to respond to idiots...
in kind, on topic, loud and insultingly.

Stefan

exarmyranger
01-14-2007, 11:04 PM
Yep,that may well be the case,Stefan.But the sky only looks blue,it is air,and air is colorless.Reflection of sunlight off the ocean's make it appear blue.contaminents (smog)make the sky look brown,or yellow.becuase air is transparent and contaminates are visable.But you already knew that,huh. and feeding zoo residents is fine,unless prohibited.It is wildlife you should never feed.including birds,in your backyard,ducks in the park lake/pond,and living on the gulf coast of Florida.Seagull's... i'll bet you know that to,huh..t/c ex.

Paul Revere
01-15-2007, 10:37 AM
I mentioned prior the M3 money supply and a website that has this information, as the Fed Resv. is no longer going to publish such data for public viewing. I had a typo in the above link and fixed it therein, but I checked it and it is: www.shadowstats.com/cgi-bin/sgs/data (I had shadowstates.com on original, but corrected it with an edit up in that post now, too)

stefan segal
01-15-2007, 11:22 AM
Paul...great site...but the tariff is too high for my use. Charts are telling, but the anylisis would be sweet.

thanks

Stefan