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Moby
08-27-2008, 05:53 AM
I never give much credit for speeches and there's no way I'd make a voting decision based on speeches because they're written by others and can have little to do with a politicians actual beliefs.

However, Mark Warner made some interesting points. This is just from page 2 of a transcript so feel free to check out the rest. Of course much of the speech is the usual stuff but there are some points I feel are note worthy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/us/politics/26text-warner.html?pagewanted=2

He never really asked us to step up. Think about it. If after September 11th there had been a call from the president to get ourselves off foreign oil, so we would no longer be funding the very terrorists who'd just attacked us, every American would have said, "How can I do my part?"

(APPLAUSE)

This administration -- this administration failed to believe in what we can achieve as a nation when all of us work together. John McCain promises more of the same, a plan that would explode the deficit and leave that to our kids, no real strategy to invest in our crumbling infrastructure, and he would continue spending $10 billion a month in Iraq.

I don't know about you, but that's just not right. That's four more years that we just can't afford.

(APPLAUSE)

Barack Obama -- Barack Obama has a different vision and a different plan. Right now, at this critical moment in our history, we have one shot to get it right. And the status quo just won't cut it.

Now, let me tell you, if you think you've seen dramatic changes in the world and technology in the last 10 years, you ain't seen nothing yet. The race is on. And if you watched the Olympics, then you know China's going for the gold.

You know, America has never been afraid of the future, and we shouldn't start now.

(APPLAUSE)

If we choose the right path, if we choose the right path, every one of these challenges is also an opportunity.

Look at energy. If we actually got ourselves off foreign oil, we can start to make our country safer, we'll start to solve global warming, and with the right policies, within 24 months, we'll be building 100-mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrid vehicles right here, with American technology and American workers.

(APPLAUSE)

Look at health care. If we bring down costs and actually cover everyone, not only will America be healthier; we'll be more competitive in the global economy.

Just think about this. In four months, in just four months, we will have an administration that actually believes in science.

(APPLAUSE)

And we can again lead the world in live-saving and life-changing cures.

Think about education. If we recruit a new army of teachers and actually give our schools the resources to meet our highest standards, not only will every child in America be given that fair shot, but the American economy will be given a shot in the arm. And whether they want to be an engineer or an electrician, every kid will be trained for the jobs of the 21st century.

(APPLAUSE)

Or look at America's standing in the world. If we rebuild our military and rebuild our alliances, we can rally the world to defeat terrorism and restore America's leadership.

Now, which candidate -- which candidate understands these opportunities? And which candidate -- which candidate knows that we don't have another four years to waste? Barack Obama.

But Barack Obama also knows this, as well. We need leaders who see our common ground as sacred ground. We need leaders who will appeal to us not as Republicans or Democrats, but first and foremost as Americans.

(APPLAUSE)

You know, I spent 20 years in business. And if you ran a company whose only strategy was to tear down the competition, it wouldn't last very long. So why is this wisdom so hard to find in Washington?

I know we're at the Democratic convention, but if an idea works, it really doesn't matter whether it's got a "D" or an "R" next to it, because this election...

(APPLAUSE)

... this election is not about liberal versus conservative. It's not about left versus right. It's about the future versus the past.

(APPLAUSE)

In this election, at this moment, at this moment in our history, we know what the problems are. We know at this critical juncture we only have one shot to get it right. And we know that these new times demand new thinking.

We believe in success. We believe that everyone should have an opportunity to get ahead. And with that success comes a responsibility to make sure that others can follow.

I think we're blessed to be Americans. But with that blessing -- with that blessing comes an obligation to our neighbors and to our common good.

SeniorChief
08-27-2008, 09:47 AM
It's too bad they're not going to allow my current Governor Tim Kaine to speak at the convention. He has to be the second dumbest politician in all of America, right after Barack Obama.

Hog Trash
08-27-2008, 09:58 AM
We will have an administration that actually believes in science
If you mean under Obama I saw where he wanted to suspend NASA for 5 years I believe to help fund his socialist programs.

How in the hell am I going to get all my white people to the new Utopian planet I promised. He's going to make me look bad.

asroc
08-27-2008, 01:41 PM
If you mean under Obama I saw where he wanted to suspend NASA for 5 years I believe to help fund his socialist programs.

No, Obama said he would suspend the next moon landing, not NASA itself.

Even NASA insiders think another moon landing (we've had several) is pretty unnecessary, but Bush seemed to think it was a great idea.

Hog Trash
08-27-2008, 01:58 PM
No, Obama said he would suspend the next moon landing, not NASA itself.

Even NASA insiders think another moon landing (we've had several) is pretty unnecessary, but Bush seemed to think it was a great idea.I certainly am glad to hear that. There will be alot of happy white astronauts in the world when this gets out. We had something a little more exotic in mind, than the moon.

SeedyROM
08-27-2008, 06:37 PM
We do need to open the door a little further with stem cell research. I'm totally against cloning humans. The research should be aimed at reproducing organs in labs. We don't need a freaking clone on the streets honking the horn screaming get the hell out of my way you genetic freak.:lmao2:

magic habanero
08-27-2008, 07:15 PM
How in the hell am I going to get all my white people to the new Utopian planet I promised.

Stop limiting yourself to 3rd Dimensional thinking. You're hemming yourself in by limitations you perceive which are borne of the physical "realities" you've been conditioned to believe exist. Use your imagination. What alternate means of transportation might there be?

Ideally you would transform yourself and your white people into beams of light.

Meditate on it. Experiment with making an "ohm-like" sound from the center of your being while you're meditating. Find your own vibration...don't just automatically default to "ohm".

And question everything you've been "taught."

Theres a way to get your white people there.

That has nothing to do with NASA.

Binky
08-27-2008, 07:32 PM
If you mean under Obama I saw where he wanted to suspend NASA for 5 years I believe to help fund his socialist programs.

How in the hell am I going to get all my white people to the new Utopian planet I promised. He's going to make me look bad.



Hog.....you're a big goofus! You just never quit, do you? :lmao2: You just have to keep stirring the turd, don't you? :lmao2: You're such a charmer.:taunt:

Binky
08-27-2008, 07:44 PM
Stop limiting yourself to 3rd Dimensional thinking. You're hemming yourself in by limitations you perceive which are borne of the physical "realities" you've been conditioned to believe exist. Use your imagination. What alternate means of transportation might there be?

Ideally you would transform yourself and your white people into beams of light.

Meditate on it. Experiment with making an "ohm-like" sound from the center of your being while you're meditating. Find your own vibration...don't just automatically default to "ohm".

And question everything you've been "taught."

Theres a way to get your white people there.

That has nothing to do with NASA.




You're new here, pal, Hog was being sarcastic. It's and inside joke, so to speak. :lmao2: :lmao2:

Hog Trash
08-27-2008, 10:43 PM
No, Obama said he would suspend the next moon landing, not NASA itself.
So is Obama going to take the "moon" money and restart the inner-city midnight basketball youth program or something equaly important?

disrupter
08-27-2008, 11:02 PM
When the American people are too ignorant to understand the facts they will cave to corporate sponsored myth & superstition.

Maybe without the American people getting with reality, even the FEW well meaning politicians can't fly in the face of WRONG public opinion.

Smurf-Herder
08-28-2008, 12:56 AM
I certainly am glad to hear that. There will be alot of happy white astronauts in the world when this gets out. We had something a little more exotic in mind, than the moon.

I think establishing some kind of permanent moon base was intended to be the stepping stone to a manned Mars mission in 2020.

juggernaut
08-28-2008, 01:10 AM
We do need to open the door a little further with stem cell research. I'm totally against cloning humans. freak.:lmao2:I'm for cloning humans. I say we bring back Saddam and give him back his country. We can leave and they will have order again. :p

juggernaut
08-28-2008, 01:12 AM
So is Obama going to take the "moon" money and restart the inner-city midnight basketball youth program or something equaly important?Hell NO. We will have to pay for that. The moon money will be for a new house that is not so shadowed by shaddy deals.

Smurf-Herder
08-28-2008, 01:22 AM
It's poetry in motion
She turned her tender eyes to me
As deep as any ocean
As sweet as any harmony
Mmm - but she blinded me with science
"She blinded me with science!"
And failed me in biology

When I'm dancing close to her
"Blinding me with science - science!"
I can smell the chemicals
"Blinding me with science - science!"
"Science!"
"Science!"

Mmm - but it's poetry in motion
And when she turned her eyes to me
As deep as any ocean
As sweet as any harmony
Mmm - but she blinded me with science
And failed me in geometry

When she's dancing next to me
"Blinding me with science - science!"
"Science!"
I can hear machinery
"Blinding me with science - science!"
"Science!"

It's poetry in motion
And now she's making love to me
The spheres're in commotion
The elements in harmony
She blinded me with science
"She blinded me with science!"
And hit me with technology

"Good heavens Miss Sakamoto - you're beautiful!"
I -
I don't believe it!
There she goes again!
She's tidied up, and I can't find anything!
All my tubes and wires
And careful notes
And antiquated notions

But! - it's poetry in motion
And when she turned her eyes to me
As deep as any ocean
As sweet as any harmony
Mmm - but she blinded me with science
"She blinded me with - with science!"
She blinded me with -

- Thomas Dolby