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Smurf-Herder
07-14-2008, 11:23 AM
Now it's up to Congress, on their ban.

Bush to lift executive ban on offshore drilling
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91TMF480&show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - In another push to deal with soaring gas prices, President Bush on Monday will lift an executive ban on offshore drilling that his stood since his father was president. But the move, by itself, will do nothing unless Congress acts as well.
The president plans to officially lift the ban and then explain his actions in a Rose Garden statement, White House press secretary Dana Perino said.

There are two prohibitions on offshore drilling, one imposed by Congress and another by executive order signed by former President Bush in 1990. The current president, trying to ease market tensions and boost supply, called last month for Congress to lift its prohibition before he did so himself.

But Perino said Bush no longer wants to wait. She pinned blame on the leaders of the Democratic Congress, noting that no action has been taken on this issue.

"They haven't even held a single hearing," Perino said. "So we are going to move forward, and hopefully that will spur action by the Congress."

Asked if Bush's action alone will lead to more oil drilling, Perino said, "In terms of allowing more exploration to go forward? No, it does not."

The president, in his final months of office, has responded to record gas-prices with a series of proposals, including more oil exploration. None would have immediate impact on prices at the pump, according to White House officials, who say there is no quick fix. But starting action now would help, they say.

Bush's proposal echoes a call by Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, to open the Continental Shelf for exploration.

Congressional Democrats have rejected the push to lift the drilling moratorium, accusing the president of hoping the U.S. can drill its way out a problem.

Bush says offshore drilling could yield up to 18 billion barrels of oil over time, although it would take years for production to start. Bush also says offshore drilling would take pressure off prices over time. In addition, the president has proposed opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for drilling, lifting restrictions on oil shale leasing in the Green River Basin of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming and easing the regulatory process to expand oil refining capacity.

Congressional Democrats, joined by some GOP lawmakers from coastal states, have opposed lifting the prohibition that has barred energy companies from waters along both the East and West coasts and in the eastern Gulf of Mexico. A succession of presidents, from Bush's father—George H.W. Bush—to Bill Clinton, have sided against drilling in these waters, as has Congress each year for 27 years. Their goal has to been to protect beaches and coastal states' tourism economies.

Moby
07-14-2008, 12:19 PM
Dick Cheney didn't want the ban lifted for 6 straight years and now it has to happen right before the 2008 election. Hmmm ....... :banghead:

Binky
07-14-2008, 12:29 PM
If it makes it thru congress the environs will have a field day by trying to prevent it. What a bunch of boneheads. They have to use oil like the rest of us. You'd think, as some point in time, duh, they'd at least agree to some drilling somewhere in this country. :banghead:

bairdi
07-14-2008, 12:38 PM
If it makes it thru congress the environs will have a field day by trying to prevent it. What a bunch of boneheads. They have to use oil like the rest of us. You'd think, as some point in time, duh, they'd at least agree to some drilling somewhere in this country. :banghead:
And you would think at some point in time, the oil companies would drill on the 68 million acres that they already hold leases on. duh

doctordog
07-14-2008, 12:58 PM
And you would think at some point in time, the oil companies would drill on the 68 million acres that they already hold leases on. duh

any maps or deeds you can provide on these so called acres>:confused:

Moby
07-14-2008, 01:13 PM
If it makes it thru congress the environs will have a field day by trying to prevent it. What a bunch of boneheads. They have to use oil like the rest of us. You'd think, as some point in time, duh, they'd at least agree to some drilling somewhere in this country. :banghead:
It's not environmental issues that concern me. Well, they do but not enough to stop drilling.

What concerns me is the history of this administration. Cheney convinced us that it would be best to out source a bunch of troop support to Halliburton and once they got a shit load of contracts they headed to Dubai and are under investigation for screwing over American tax payers.

Allowing state governors and maybe even county mayors to sell oil to the highest bidder is not my idea of national security.

My concern is that we'll end up leasing the right to oil companies for cheap, then these publicly traded companies will follow Dick's company and move to the middle east and all the oil that ends up in tankers will go to South America.

Americans won't really get any of it without bidding for it on the open market. That's currently what's happening with all oil coming out of Alaska. It's not a good deal for Americans.

Binky
07-14-2008, 02:35 PM
And you would think at some point in time, the oil companies would drill on the 68 million acres that they already hold leases on. duh


Yep, I can't argue with that. It's a big duh there. What are they waiting for? Are they not being allowed to drill on those leases? :mad:

Binky
07-14-2008, 02:41 PM
It's not environmental issues that concern me. Well, they do but not enough to stop drilling.

What concerns me is the history of this administration. Cheney convinced us that it would be best to out source a bunch of troop support to Halliburton and once they got a shit load of contracts they headed to Dubai and are under investigation for screwing over American tax payers.

Allowing state governors and maybe even county mayors to sell oil to the highest bidder is not my idea of national security.

My concern is that we'll end up leasing the right to oil companies for cheap, then these publicly traded companies will follow Dick's company and move to the middle east and all the oil that ends up in tankers will go to South America.

Americans won't really get any of it without bidding for it on the open market. That's currently what's happening with all oil coming out of Alaska. It's not a good deal for Americans.


I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for enlightening me. Sometimes I have a hard time trying to keep up with all the crapola that our politicians etc. are trying to pull. So we'll be ending up paying for our own oil, is that correct?

:banghead:

Kanadesaga
07-14-2008, 02:56 PM
short-sighted, stupid, greedy, republican, conservative, corporate fucks!

disrupter
07-14-2008, 03:25 PM
Junkies will do ANYTHING to get their oil fix.

Murder millions, Hoc their own children's economic future, & now despoiling the nation & planet those same children will inherit,

and why?

So they can impress their neighbors by hauling around an extra ton of metal everytime they run back & forth to the 7-11 & everywhere else.

You Americans are just cultural feces.
Just the lowest.

Because you don't have any brains.
All you do is parrot whatever imagery & dialogues the corporate media machine has put on TV.

Maybe we should outlaw oil use the way drug use has been outlawed.

but you accept some confused, irrational notion of morality, that violates personal liberty & is a detriment to no one else,
but when it comes to concrete ethical needs where you are destroying EVERYONE's world you do NOTHING.

Shame, Shame, Shame on you.

You are just the worst, you have absolutely no nobility what-so-ever.
Uninspired trash.

SeedyROM
07-14-2008, 04:49 PM
And you would think at some point in time, the oil companies would drill on the 68 million acres that they already hold leases on. duh

It would be a good idea to open up new parcels so companies could buy those leases and lock them up now. We have to beat the competition like the Chinese and even Arabs. Would you want Arabs drilling off the coast of Florida or any other state ? bin Laden would love that.

We need exploration and drilling in other areas. As for those 68 million acres, a lot of the seafloor has been mapped and is worthless. They move the rigs to new locations or install new rigs as needed. Offshore drilling is safer and cleaner than the tree huggers want the public to believe.

Smurf-Herder
07-14-2008, 05:15 PM
And you would think at some point in time, the oil companies would drill on the 68 million acres that they already hold leases on. duh


But all those leases don't contain oil. And they only account for 15% of the area off our coasts. Doesn't it make more sense to see where there is oil first, before deciding where you'll let them drill - considering this is getting to be a national emergency?

Smurf-Herder
07-14-2008, 05:18 PM
It's not environmental issues that concern me. Well, they do but not enough to stop drilling.

What concerns me is the history of this administration. Cheney convinced us that it would be best to out source a bunch of troop support to Halliburton and once they got a shit load of contracts they headed to Dubai and are under investigation for screwing over American tax payers.

Allowing state governors and maybe even county mayors to sell oil to the highest bidder is not my idea of national security.

My concern is that we'll end up leasing the right to oil companies for cheap, then these publicly traded companies will follow Dick's company and move to the middle east and all the oil that ends up in tankers will go to South America.

Americans won't really get any of it without bidding for it on the open market. That's currently what's happening with all oil coming out of Alaska. It's not a good deal for Americans.

I'm more concerned with my paying (or not being able to pay) $10 a gallon for gas - just because you guys are paranoid of Dick Cheney.

doctordog
07-14-2008, 05:18 PM
But all those leases don't contain oil. And they only account for 15% of the area off our coasts. Doesn't it make more sense to see where there is oil first, before deciding where you'll let them drill - considering this is getting to be a national emergency?

That wouldn't provide as many committee jobs for liberals who crave more appointments.

Smurf-Herder
07-14-2008, 05:24 PM
It would be a good idea to open up new parcels so companies could buy those leases and lock them up now. We have to beat the competition like the Chinese and even Arabs. Would you want Arabs drilling off the coast of Florida or any other state ? bin Laden would love that.

We need exploration and drilling in other areas. As for those 68 million acres, a lot of the seafloor has been mapped and is worthless. They move the rigs to new locations or install new rigs as needed. Offshore drilling is safer and cleaner than the tree huggers want the public to believe.

BTW, there's a ton of sealife that flourishes around those rigs.

For people worried about coral reefs - sink a ship and they will come. They've done that a few times.

Also, there's over 30 times the oil in the oceans from Natural Seepage than man's drilling offshore.

I think these nuts that want us to not be able to do anything are just suicidally stupid.

SeedyROM
07-14-2008, 05:53 PM
BTW, there's a ton of sealife that flourishes around those rigs.

For people worried about coral reefs - sink a ship and they will come. They've done that a few times.

Also, there's over 30 times the oil in the oceans from Natural Seepage than man's drilling offshore.

I think these nuts that want us to not be able to do anything are just suicidally stupid.

Yes they are, when gas hits $10 a gallon maybe they'll wake up. The majority need to research offshore drilling methods and govt. requirements to drill offshore. Rigs are cleaner than big oil drillers on land. The area drilled is sealed with cement long before they drill. I think some people believe they just ram the bit into the ground at will and scream yeeehhhaaaaa as the oil shoots out of the water, LOL!!

Smurf-Herder
07-14-2008, 06:33 PM
Yes they are, when gas hits $10 a gallon maybe they'll wake up.

This is what they want. So the Dems can nationalize the oil companies. It'll give them the clout they need by scaring the public (the radical, rich-hating public) into pushing for it.

Maxine Waters threatens to nationalize U.S. oil industries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ

They aren't stupid. They purposely screw things up, so they can trick us into giving them more power to supposedly fix things.

SeedyROM
07-14-2008, 07:32 PM
This is what they want. So the Dems can nationalize the oil companies. It'll give them the clout they need by scaring the public (the radical, rich-hating public) into pushing for it.

Maxine Waters threatens to nationalize U.S. oil industries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ

They aren't stupid. They purposely screw things up, so they can trick us into giving them more power to supposedly fix things.

Big oil has plenty of oversight, these morons ignore the obvious problems on wallstreet because they are afraid of the power that the ivory towers possess. While nationalizing would cheapen prices at the pump, the govt would have to create thousands of jobs to do the work of oversight. Bigger govt leads to more problems and lots of pork barrel spoon fed hand outs to the worthless elite.

The major problem that no one has addressed with big oil is that they also trade futures and fund the hedge funds that have created the bubble. Even Halliburton trades oil contracts.

I don't know how Maxine Waters was elected, I guess Californian's were really in a fog. She is a textbook DemWackocrat. Dems need to thin the flock of the wacky drama queens like Maxine.

Smurf-Herder
07-14-2008, 07:38 PM
Big oil has plenty of oversight, these morons ignore the obvious problems on wallstreet because they are afraid of the power that the ivory towers possess. While nationalizing would cheapen prices at the pump, the govt would have to create thousands of jobs to do the work of oversight. Bigger govt leads to more problems and lots of pork barrel spoon fed hand outs to the worthless elite.

The major problem that no one has addressed with big oil is that they also trade futures and fund the hedge funds that have created the bubble. Even Halliburton trades oil contracts.

I don't know how Maxine Waters was elected, I guess Californian's were really in a fog. She is a textbook DemWackocrat. Dems need to thin the flock of the wacky drama queens like Maxine.


Isn't she the goober who mentioned "our astronauts having planted the US flag on Mars", a couple years ago during a televised session of the House?

SeedyROM
07-14-2008, 08:03 PM
Isn't she the goober who mentioned "our astronauts having planted the US flag on Mars", a couple years ago during a televised session of the House?

It wouldn't suprise me.

Cat slave
07-15-2008, 01:43 AM
Isn't she the goober who mentioned "our astronauts having planted the US flag on Mars", a couple years ago during a televised session of the House?

Wasnt that Sheila Jackson Brown????? Nit wit!

Say we have more oil, without refineries we cant do anything with it!

And it doesnt matter how far down the pike getting the first oil out of our
domestic drilling, at least we will have started and I think it would send
a message to the camel jockies......youre driving off a lot of your business!

Cat slave
07-15-2008, 01:45 AM
...or was it Sheila Jackson Lee......something like that. What a goof wad!:lmao2:

disrupter
07-15-2008, 02:03 AM
You would cut off your own foot & eat it rather than pay their high price for meat?

That is America we will be destroying.

Why not think about reducing the amount of meat you eat if not becoming a vegetarian altogether. Your health will be vastly better off & you will probably be happier because of it.

You sound like bunch of trashy renters rather than the commanding owners of America.

Maybe you should be treated accordingly?

You will be evicted by your own children if they don't get so enraged they eviscerate you instead.

SeedyROM
07-15-2008, 03:19 AM
Vegatarians live shorter lives and have weaker bodies. Meat does a body good. Steak or pork loins and veggies with each meal. Lobster an dshrimp too, love those shrimpballs, tasty. Life without meat in America could start WWIII. joke

Smurf-Herder
07-15-2008, 07:15 AM
Vegatarians live shorter lives and have weaker bodies. Meat does a body good. Steak or pork loins and veggies with each meal. Lobster an dshrimp too, love those shrimpballs, tasty. Life without meat in America could start WWIII. joke


Meat gave early man the proteins required to evolve our brains to our present level.

I love scallops and flounder :D

disrupter
07-15-2008, 05:34 PM
You and the Cats & Dogs.

Me, i will identify more with Chimpanzees.

You are such ignoble slugs,
hardly better than bacteria.

Eat & sleep, with no inspiration.
Your entertainment is all parasitic rather than even mildly challenging to encourage growth of the mind & intellect.

you are an embarrassment to humanity.
and you may even be its downfall to extinction.

You don't reach out to the unknown,
you just slither on the seemingly comfortable ground.

SeedyROM
07-15-2008, 05:52 PM
:taunt: I saw a Chimpanzee eating a BigMac before so I can relate.:taunt:

disrupter
07-15-2008, 06:08 PM
Yes they do eat some meat,

but they aren't just dumb meat wads.

SeedyROM
07-15-2008, 07:30 PM
Well maybe a human zoo would be profitable, especially with Bush/Cheney in a cage exhibit.