Who Are The People Pulling Obama's Strings?

[Moby]

Some people know about the PNAC and most of those think that they're the one's pulling Bush's strings. Iraq, oil prices, health care, increasing the size of government, over spending, nation building, religion in government and so on were all preached by the PNAC as early as 1998.

However, I've been hearing more about people behind Obama and those pulling his strings but I don't know who they are.

Any links?
Any theories?
Any ideas?


I think it just might be those millions of people making small donations instead of a powerful Neoconservative think tank, but that's just using the numbers.

[asroc]

Al-Qaeda and Clinton's red masters, clearly. He's a zionist radical muslim.

Also, Satan, as Obama is the anti-christ.

[Independent Harry]

hahahhahaha, I wonder if Satan can afford to pay his website bills?

[PhoneMistress]

I am not sure if the last poster was kidding. I hope so because otherwise he may need medication.

It’s a good question. If we believe the story, it is good old-fashioned populism which seems to resurface every time the system gets out of whack. I have heard a number of uber rich individuals and families have been theorized but nothing clear cut. Time will tell in January.

[Moby]

I am not sure if the last poster was kidding. I hope so because otherwise he may need medication.
I think he was kidding but that doesn't mean he doesn't need medication :D

[Independent Harry]

I think he was kidding but that doesn't mean he doesn't need medication :D

It was a vague reference to PNAC website going down, (at the time pepole had joked that PNAC couldn't pay the hosting fee). that's all, now where are my damn meds...

[Binky]

Al-Qaeda and Clinton's red masters, clearly. He's a zionist radical muslim.

Also, Satan, as Obama is the anti-christ.


Strikes me as a bit funny that you think him to be the anti-Christ as that's what I've been thinking. He's young, good looking, promising for change, getting into the hearts of the people and has a lot of followers. He's a smooth talker. All just like the anti-Christ.

However, LOL, I think my imagination is running away with me. He couldn't possibly be....or could he?

[Moby]

Strikes me as a bit funny that you think him to be the anti-Christ as that's what I've been thinking. He's young, good looking, promising for change, getting into the hearts of the people and has a lot of followers. He's a smooth talker. All just like the anti-Christ.

However, LOL, I think my imagination is running away with me. He couldn't possibly be....or could he?
I find it shocking that in this century people still believe that an Antichrist is anything more then a mythical being made up to scare people into obedience.

[Independent Harry]

Strikes me as a bit funny that you think him to be the anti-Christ as that's what I've been thinking. He's young, good looking, promising for change, getting into the hearts of the people and has a lot of followers. He's a smooth talker. All just like the anti-Christ.

However, LOL, I think my imagination is running away with me. He couldn't possibly be....or could he?

So we should deem anyone that is young good looking promising for change and has followers should be considered the anti-christ, or only the black ones?

[Binky]

So we should deem anyone that is young good looking promising for change and has followers should be considered the anti-christ, or only the black ones?


LOL, I don't know. I'm just telling you what I heard and saw on the history channel a couple of nights ago. The show was about the AntiChrist. That's all I can say.

[Binky]

I find it shocking that in this century people still believe that an Antichrist is anything more then a mythical being made up to scare people into obedience.


Why? there are millions of people that believe in Voodoo. And in witches. Such as the Salem witch trials of long ago. Doesn't matter whether do you or I do. What matters is that they do.

[Binky]

So we should deem anyone that is young good looking promising for change and has followers should be considered the anti-christ, or only the black ones?


Actually, I was more or less trying to poke fun to see if it would spark a conversation. And it did. Don't you know when someone's feeding you bullpucky? Come on, guys. You sure as hell should since you know how to dish it out.

And why would it bother you if I believed it or not?

[stefan segal]

Moby...is it at all posible in your rubicon that Obama might be who he presents himself to be?

On another note...the "rumors" you are hearing are repug activist throwing shit on the wall to see if any sticks.

The reason they are being so stealthy is, one...Obama is what he proports himself to be, and secondly, repugs are having a hard time staying on the safe side of their bigotry...you have noticed they fail in this effort every other day, as some repug official or another goes racist :)

I enjoy seeing them struggle with thier in-house garbage.,

Stefan

[Independent Harry]

Actually, I was more or less trying to poke fun to see if it would spark a conversation. And it did. Don't you know when someone's feeding you bullpucky? Come on, guys. You sure as hell should since you know how to dish it out.

And why would it bother you if I believed it or not?

The whole religion thing bothers me to begin with. At least Christianity Jewish and Muslim religions. The eastern religions I don't have sucha problem with because they don't really focus on converting the world and they allow room for other belief systems.

So its not so much Obama as the whole anti-christ thing...

[stefan segal]

The whole religion thing bothers me to begin with. At least Christianity Jewish and Muslim religions. The eastern religions I don't have sucha problem with because they don't really focus on converting the world and they allow room for other belief systems.

So its not so much Obama as the whole anti-christ thing...

Inde Harry...apparently you are not aware of the moslem rule to give a captive three opportunities to swear that allah is the one god, then if no realeignment takes place, your duty is to kill the useless prick.

I tracked down a koran when a kid in a used book store, got to the third page when discovering this gem...you should make your assumptions a little less broad, or research more before gracing the world with them.

I won't bother with the "anti-christ" thing, because how can one speak honestly about such asubject and not become insulting? I don't know, so I'd best leave that party alone...enjoy.

Stefan

[Smurf-Herder]

So we should deem anyone that is young good looking promising for change and has followers should be considered the anti-christ, or only the black ones?

Just to put things in perspective, it can only come about after a series of conditions are present - which we have now in place (everything is in the nightly news); and specifically only after what is considered a "generation" of time has passed after Israel has been reconstituted as a nation, after being dispersed among the other countries - which it was in 1948. So if any of it's true, time really is getting short.

On the main topic, I've only heard it's suspected that Obama may be just a frontman; by the way he loses his ability to sound spontaneous and off the cuff (without having to correct what he meant days later) when caught off guard, as if all his rhetoric is scripted.

[Binky]

Just to put things in perspective, it can only come about after a series of conditions are present - which we have now in place (everything is in the nightly news); and specifically only after what is considered a "generation" of time has passed after Israel has been reconstituted as a nation, after being dispersed among the other countries - which it was in 1948. So if any of it's true, time really is getting short.

On the main topic, I've only heard it's suspected that Obama may be just a frontman; by the way he loses his ability to sound spontaneous and off the cuff (without having to correct what he meant days later) when caught off guard, as if all his rhetoric is scripted.


It's possible that his stuff IS written by someone else. It is for the president, so why not for a candidate? Could be!

[bairdi]

It's possible that his stuff IS written by someone else. It is for the president, so why not for a candidate? Could be!
When the right wing smear machine weights your every word, waiting to pounce on a statement that they can twist and turn, you speak deliberately and precisely and not off the cuff. This is what Obama does. He does not blurt things out, but oftentimes stutters, looking for the exact verbiage to use.

[Smurf-Herder]

When the right wing smear machine weights your every word, waiting to pounce on a statement that they can twist and turn, you speak deliberately and precisely and not off the cuff. This is what Obama does. He does not blurt things out, but oftentimes stutters, looking for the exact verbiage to use.

But if anybody's into the "flip-flop" thing - Obama takes the cake. It seems he's always throwing somebody under the bus after he defends whatever it was they did. Changing the meaning of what he clearly seemed to mean days before. And with him it seems like so many, even little things, in what seems like a record timeframe. He's the king of nuance - because he gets a free pass on everything; and people still think he's something special. It only shows how he's at least just another average politician, when he's not prepped ....... which seems to be an aweful lot. Everything, from campaign people, to knowing what's going on, on the ground in Iraq. He comes across to me as Mr. Media Hype.

[bairdi]

But if anybody's into the "flip-flop" thing - Obama takes the cake. It seems he's always throwing somebody under the bus after he defends whatever it was they did. Changing the meaning of what he clearly seemed to mean days before. And with him it seems like so many, even little things, in what seems like a record timeframe. He's the king of nuance - because he gets a free pass on everything; and people still think he's something special. It only shows how he's at least just another average politician, when he's not prepped ....... which seems to be an aweful lot. Everything, from campaign people, to knowing what's going on, on the ground in Iraq. He comes across to me as Mr. Media Hype.
"Flip-flop", "throwing somebody under the bus", "king of nuance"...it's damn if you do and damn if you don't with you conservatives. If you think he comes across as "Mr. Media Hype", then don't vote for the man. It's as simple as that.

[sancot123]

hahahhahaha, I wonder if Satan can afford to pay his website bills?
i believe obama is tring to buy the presidency:taunt:

[Smurf-Herder]

"Flip-flop", "throwing somebody under the bus", "king of nuance"...it's damn if you do and damn if you don't with you conservatives. If you think he comes across as "Mr. Media Hype", then don't vote for the man. It's as simple as that.

So ..... are you suggesting we don't discuss our views on political candidates, on this political discussion board?

No, I'm not voting for him. But I damned well will say how I feel about him. That's kinda why we're all here - to voice our views. And that's how I feel about Barry the Rock Star, in his run for the Presidency of the most powerful country on the face of the Earth, after serving only 143 days in his first national office.

[bairdi]

So ..... are you suggesting we don't discuss our views on political candidates, on this political discussion board?

No, I'm not voting for him. But I damned well will say how I feel about him. That's kinda why we're all here - to voice our views. And that's how I feel about Barry the Rock Star, in his run for the Presidency of the most powerful country on the face of the Earth, after serving only 143 days in his first national office.
I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm just saying that what you are putting out there is a bunch of typical right wing swiftboating bullshit.

[Smurf-Herder]

I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm just saying that what you are putting out there is a bunch of typical right wing swiftboating bullshit.

Apparently anything you disagree with is "swiftboating", because a lot has been put out there on Obama.

(Nothing to do with "swiftboating", BTW)

[bairdi]

Apparently anything you disagree with is "swiftboating", because a lot has been put out there on Obama.

(Nothing to do with "swiftboating", BTW)
I would much rather hear who you support for president and why they would be a good choice. I would like to hear how you believe your candidate would be better for the overall well being of this country. I am sure that I am not the only one who is sick and tired of reading and listening to this politics of destruction that has been practiced by conservatives over the past 12 years. As an independent, I don't think I can ever vote Repug. As for McCain, I lost a lot of respect for the man when he let Rove and Bush savage him back in 2000. If he would not fight back against the kind of character attack waged him against him personally and his family, what makes one think he would be better at dealing with any other kind of attack?

[Moby]

On the main topic, I've only heard it's suspected that Obama may be just a frontman; by the way he loses his ability to sound spontaneous and off the cuff (without having to correct what he meant days later) when caught off guard, as if all his rhetoric is scripted.
You think that maybe, just maybe, a man that's running for President of the USA might have some speechwriters on his staff? I don't think that counts as string pullers. Unless of course you're the anti-Christ.:banghead:

[Irrp]

Remember Milli Vanilli in the 80's? maybe he is miming his speeches.

[Smurf-Herder]

I would much rather hear who you support for president and why they would be a good choice. I would like to hear how you believe your candidate would be better for the overall well being of this country. I am sure that I am not the only one who is sick and tired of reading and listening to this politics of destruction that has been practiced by conservatives over the past 12 years. As an independent, I don't think I can ever vote Repug. As for McCain, I lost a lot of respect for the man when he let Rove and Bush savage him back in 2000. If he would not fight back against the kind of character attack waged him against him personally and his family, what makes one think he would be better at dealing with any other kind of attack?

Frankly, the only thing I can count on McCain to do is, not defund the Ballistic Missile Defense program .......... anything beyond that is gravy, with Mr. "Maverick".

But I can count on Obama to set it back sharply, at the very least.

And I can at least trust McCain to be somewhat predictable, whereas Obama is a wild card, IMO - at a bad time.

[Smurf-Herder]

You think that maybe, just maybe, a man that's running for President of the USA might have some speechwriters on his staff? I don't think that counts as string pullers. Unless of course you're the anti-Christ.:banghead:

His "Speechwriters" and close circle are people from previous administrations - all wanting a piece, when he gets in.

[Moby]

His "Speechwriters" and close circle are people from previous administrations - all wanting a piece, when he gets in.
This thread was started to identify these people. So you seem to know something about these people but can you identify them?

Why does this make him any different?

[asroc]

His "Speechwriters" and close circle are people from previous administrations - all wanting a piece, when he gets in.

This is pretty much what every administration is.

[Moby]

This is pretty much what every administration is.
But at the moment these people seem to be invisible although we know everything about them except for who they are.