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Moby
06-24-2008, 08:55 AM
James Dobson released a "Gay Alert" against SpongeBob, with a straight face, is against tolerance and thinks women should stay home. I think everyone that sees the bible differently then "Focus on the Family" should be proud :thumbsup:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_el_pr/rel_dobson_obama
By ERIC GORSKI, AP Religion Writer
Tue Jun 24, 1:29 AM ET

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - As Barack Obama broadens his outreach to evangelical voters, one of the movement's biggest names, James Dobson, accuses the likely Democratic presidential nominee of distorting the Bible and pushing a "fruitcake interpretation" of the Constitution.

The criticism, to be aired Tuesday on Dobson's Focus on the Family radio program, comes shortly after an Obama aide suggested a meeting at the organization's headquarters here, said Tom Minnery, senior vice president for government and public policy at Focus on the Family.

The conservative Christian group provided The Associated Press with an advance copy of the pre-taped radio segment, which runs 18 minutes and highlights excerpts of a speech Obama gave in June 2006 to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal. Obama mentions Dobson in the speech.

"Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools?" Obama said. "Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?" referring to the civil rights leader.

Dobson took aim at examples Obama cited in asking which Biblical passages should guide public policy — chapters like Leviticus, which Obama said suggests slavery is OK and eating shellfish is an abomination, or Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application."

"Folks haven't been reading their Bibles," Obama said.

Dobson and Minnery accused Obama of wrongly equating Old Testament texts and dietary codes that no longer apply to Jesus' teachings in the New Testament.

"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, his own confused theology," Dobson said.

"... He is dragging biblical understanding through the gutter."

Joshua DuBois, director of religious affairs for Obama's campaign, said in a statement that a full reading of Obama's speech shows he is committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for families. "Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together," DuBois said.

Dobson reserved some of his harshest criticism for Obama's argument that the religiously motivated must frame debates over issues like abortion not just in their own religion's terms but in arguments accessible to all people.

He said Obama, who supports abortion rights, is trying to govern by the "lowest common denominator of morality," labeling it "a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution."

"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" Dobson said. "What he's trying to say here is unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe."

The program was paid for by a Focus on the Family affiliate whose donations are taxed, Dobson said, so it's legal for that group to get more involved in politics.

Last week, DuBois, a former Assemblies of God associate minister, called Minnery for what Minnery described as a cordial discussion. He would not go into detail, but said Dubois offered to visit the ministry in August when the Democratic National Convention is in Denver.

A possible Obama visit was not discussed, but Focus is open to one, Minnery said.

McCain also has not met with Dobson. A McCain campaign staffer offered Dobson a meeting with McCain recently in Denver, Minnery said. Dobson declined because he prefers that candidates visit the Focus on the Family campus to learn more about the organization, Minnery said.

Dobson has not backed off his statement that he could not in good conscience vote for McCain because of concerns over the Arizona senator's conservative credentials. Dobson has said he will vote in November but has suggested he might not vote for president.

Obama recently met in Chicago with religious leaders, including conservative evangelicals. His campaign also plans thousands of "American Values House Parties," where participants discuss Obama and religion, as well as a presence on Christian radio and blogs.

Cat slave
06-24-2008, 01:18 PM
And his opinion is supposed to help the other side???? Bad choice of a
supporter.

Dodson is a nut equal to the nuts on the other side and support from him
will be like a stone around his victims necks!!!! Bad call.

Cat slave
06-24-2008, 01:20 PM
And furthermore, everyone distorts the Bible to make it into what makes them
comfortable.

Disclaimer: The above statement does not reflect support for Obama in any
way...simply a statement as to how interpretation rules.

And I dont have a link!:p

LogicallyYours
06-24-2008, 07:35 PM
I think America should look back over the last 7 years and see what direction the country have been lead in by the Evangelical Right...and then ask ourselves, SHOULD WE REALLY GIVE A SHIT WHAT JAMES DOBSON THINKS???

Cat slave
06-24-2008, 08:13 PM
I dont but its good fodder for chat!! And the evangelical right has not done
this all by themselves...theres more at work here than them.

Can we say lobbyists, corrupt business practices, special interest groups and
the entitlement mentality? For a start that is.

LogicallyYours
06-24-2008, 09:02 PM
I dont but its good fodder for chat!! And the evangelical right has not done
this all by themselves...theres more at work here than them.

Can we say lobbyists, corrupt business practices, special interest groups and
the entitlement mentality? For a start that is.

Oh, most definitely. I'm just sick and tired of the Christian Right assuming that this nation has to think as they do and worship as they do. They assume the moral high ground based on their special interpretation of the Bible. They decry the Taliban but, when you look at their agenda, they are not better.

Hog Trash
06-24-2008, 11:46 PM
Oh, most definitely. I'm just sick and tired of the Christian Right assuming that this nation has to think as they do and worship as they do. They assume the moral high ground based on their special interpretation of the Bible. They decry the Taliban but, when you look at their agenda, they are not better.

You have got to be kidding me! Please explain the logic behind this statement.

This oughta be good. Are you by any chance a Muslim?

bairdi
06-24-2008, 11:59 PM
And furthermore, everyone distorts the Bible to make it into what makes them
comfortable.

Disclaimer: The above statement does not reflect support for Obama in any
way...simply a statement as to how interpretation rules.

And I dont have a link!:p
Awww..c'mon Cat....you are almost there. Step into the light and proclaim your support of Obama. You can be like one of those professional wrestlers who was a bad guy but overnight becomes a good guy. :lmao2:

Binky
06-25-2008, 12:44 AM
And his opinion is supposed to help the other side???? Bad choice of a
supporter.

Dodson is a nut equal to the nuts on the other side and support from him
will be like a stone around his victims necks!!!! Bad call.


Hear! Hear! There are nuts all around us. The world is full of them. And hypocrites are prevalent everywhere. I've seen them first hand in church. These politicans and there backers or whomever, need to learn some restraint when it comes to running their mouths.

As far as I'm concerned, religion has no place in politics. Most politicans are hyprocrites anyway and I would take anything they said with a stiff grain of salt. And these preachers are stepping out of their boxes and treading in waters they know little about. They should be more selective in what they choose to yammer about.

However, whether it be a politican or some preacher yapping, they are all trying to get their fifteen minutes of fame and working to keep their names out there.

Hog Trash
06-25-2008, 10:02 AM
Awww..common Cat....you are almost there. Step into the light and proclaim your support of Obama. You can be like one of those professional wrestlers who was a bad guy but overnight becomes a good guy. :lmao2:

The "Hog" will never support a demopublican candidate again. They are corrupt on a party level. If a party member was not corrupt the party would not tolerate their honesty and render them ineffective. In other words if they won't play the game they won't last long. Their has been very few exceptions to this rule. McCain was made corrupt throughout his years as a Republican. Obama entered politics already corrupt. He desires wealth and power.

I have a cousin who is a US Congressman. He admits he must "Play their game" in order to get anything done.

The reason he went to Washington is slowly eroding and being replaced with corruption. So sad. He was once a nice fella.

Smurf-Herder
06-25-2008, 07:20 PM
I think America should look back over the last 7 years and see what direction the country have been lead in by the Evangelical Right...and then ask ourselves, SHOULD WE REALLY GIVE A SHIT WHAT JAMES DOBSON THINKS???

Apparently the Left does, because they're the ones bringing it up :D

Smurf-Herder
06-25-2008, 07:22 PM
Oh, most definitely. I'm just sick and tired of the Christian Right assuming that this nation has to think as they do and worship as they do. They assume the moral high ground based on their special interpretation of the Bible. They decry the Taliban but, when you look at their agenda, they are not better.

Female circumcision?

Banning all music and kite flying?

Women forced to be covered from head to toe?

The death penalty for converting to another faith?

I don't think so.

Moby
06-25-2008, 11:27 PM
He was once a nice fella.
Then why did he get involved federal politics?

Hog Trash
06-26-2008, 12:27 AM
Then why did he get involved federal politics?

Some people seek public office because their young and idealistic and believe they can make a difference. Most seek public office for wealth and power. The scope of the corruption is not realized until they reach Washington DC. For most their desire for wealth and power is granted if they play the game which they have no problem doing. The idealistic must fall into step with their party line or pack their bags and go home broke and disillusioned. The demopublicans have made access to politics almost impossible for anyone outside their parties. They have been in power long enough to pass many ballot access laws to secure power to themselves. It would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a non-party member to be elected to office. Unrooting them from power will be very difficult but not impossible. The only hope is for the people to open their eyes and see through the lies and promises and pretty speeches. I and many others have not given up hope. The ignorant must be made aware.

Binky
06-26-2008, 01:38 AM
The "Hog" will never support a demopublican candidate again. They are corrupt on a party level. If a party member was not corrupt the party would not tolerate their honesty and render them ineffective. In other words if they won't play the game they won't last long. Their has been very few exceptions to this rule. McCain was made corrupt throughout his years as a Republican. Obama entered politics already corrupt. He desires wealth and power.

I have a cousin who is a US Congressman. He admits he must "Play their game" in order to get anything done.

The reason he went to Washington is slowly eroding and being replaced with corruption. So sad. He was once a nice fella.


Isn't the road to corruption the way that most politicians take? Like in school, they have "peer pressure." And if they don't do as their backers like then they don't get backed.

Binky
06-26-2008, 01:16 PM
Apparently the Left does, because they're the ones bringing it up :D


Until a mere eight months ago, I was living in blissful ignorance as to whom any of these preachers and politicians were. :banghead:

Soon it will all be over and we can all go back to our perspective havens and burrow ourselves in the sand, once again. :banana: :banana:

Binky
06-26-2008, 01:19 PM
Female circumcision?

Banning all music and kite flying?

Women forced to be covered from head to toe?

The death penalty for converting to another faith?

I don't think so.


What he said! I agree!

Binky
06-26-2008, 01:28 PM
I dont but its good fodder for chat!! And the evangelical right has not done
this all by themselves...theres more at work here than them.

Can we say lobbyists, corrupt business practices, special interest groups and
the entitlement mentality? For a start that is.



:yay: Yeah, and the list goes on. And I'm getting bored thinking about it! :doh: