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stefan segal
12-11-2006, 11:17 AM
Open the link. There has not been much discussion/exposure to the attempts of internet control...(but it looks like the repugs lost that battle:). They may be out of power, but Congress bears scruitiny because there's a lot of money being slung around to sell a monopoly of the net, and screen our access even more than it is today.

Stefan


http://www.progressivedailybeacon.com/more.php?page=opinion&id=1375


The Republican Party's "culture war" had, so it seemed, succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They'd managed to capture nearly every lever of national, state, and regional governance. From the White House to the State House, Republicans and their pathetic "culture war" had taken over the American peoples' consciousness. And then it happened. The internet.

Within six-to-10 year's time, and at a cost that might only be counted in tens of thousands of dollars Progressive philosophy, via the internet, began to overwhelm and undo everything Republicans and their moneyed corporate masters had built. The Republican Party, their Oligarchic masters, and especially their "culture war" have all been exposed as being fraudulent. And now, their entire movement is dying. They have come to realize that their "philosophy" cannot hold up under scrutiny. It works only when they can package and sell it like a McDonald's quarter-pounder.

True enough they usually try to link their desire of limiting free speech and internet access to "national security" issues, but the fact is that the internet and free speech are not threats to national security. They are a threat to the Oligarchic-wing of the Republican Party and its ability to maintain power and control. Combined, free speech and the internet have propelled Progressive ideas and policies to the forefront of the peoples' consciousness. As a result, people have begun to embrace those ideas and policies while rejecting the notion of a "culture war."

mksmith2
12-12-2006, 11:21 PM
There are new commercials that I have never seen before on channels like TLC the are actually saying that "Net Neutrality is BAD". I was wondering if anyone knew who was sponsoring these commercials. I looked on youtube, but it seems that I am currently unable to search the site.

Linkster
12-13-2006, 02:19 AM
http://freepress.net/news/19647
explains those ads being run by the National Cable & Telecommunications Association and has links to the ads as well as showing how some providors are using them vs standard block ads

Abnormalia
12-13-2006, 04:03 PM
What Oligarchy? And what is a repug?

stefan segal
12-14-2006, 01:46 PM
Look in the mirror...see something stupid???
That's a repugnant repug.

Stefan

Abnormalia
12-14-2006, 07:02 PM
what mirror? You provided a mirror to your link? Where? And you still haven't explained what a 'repug' is.

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

stefan segal
12-14-2006, 08:18 PM
subnormal...get back on topic!

"True enough they usually try to link their desire of limiting free speech and internet access to "national security" issues,"

Talk about how the repugs are fighting to make the internet, one a monopoly for price gouging, and two, to control content.(three, is obvously to get the lobby money)

This is not a small thing, as once lost, it will take barracades in the streets to make the internet free again.

Doesn't this penetrate your mania, and appear to be something to understand then write your congressman about?

Stefan

Abnormalia
12-14-2006, 11:01 PM
I can't participate in an argument when the poster won't even explain his strange vocabulary, and resorts to childish antics when he is asked to simply define a word. Do you even know what a 'repug' is?

Linkster
12-15-2006, 12:54 AM
I do I do :lmao2:

From the Urban Dictionary: What the insane lefties use as an insult, ripoff of Republican. "Ur a repug, so ur teh evil!!!"

Abnormalia
12-15-2006, 03:01 PM
^^^
Hahaha

stefan segal
12-16-2006, 12:30 PM
Well...you've successfully shitcanned one o the most important "evil ripoffs" about to become law in our congress.

This is a Gog Magog fight against big money and basic human rights.

Fight done't come much more important than is the smash and grab control of our OUR internet.

What most concerns our wardens, is the demonstration of cell phone/internet connectivity displayed by the french moslems when rioting in paris.

For days...squads of soldiers...aka police, chased here and there, but by the time they "surrounded" the rioters, they had shared info among their thousands, melted away to regroup in another neighborhood.

In other words, they easily made foolsw out of france's finest for a week or so.

Don't you surmise that cheney-types are studying this ability of the mob's easy mobilization with an eye toward stamping it out?

Can you believe otherwise?

Control wi-fi routers and shut them down at the first sign of disturbance...then the rioters would be like rats in a bucket.

Does that penetrate?????

Stefan

stefan segal
12-16-2006, 12:52 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/151206mccainbill.htm

McCain Bill Is Lethal Injection For Internet Freedom
Exploits fear of sexual predators and basic misunderstanding of Internet to attack blogs critical of the warmongering agenda he fronts for

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, December 15, 2006

Republican Senator John McCain has introduced legislation that would fine blogs up to $300,000 for offensive statements, photos and videos posted by visitors on comment boards, effectively nixing the open exchange of ideas on the Internet, providing a lethal injection for unrestrained opinion, and acting as the latest attack tool to chill freedom of speech on the world wide web.

McCain's proposal, called the "Stop the Online Exploitation of Our Children Act," encourages informants to shop website owners to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, who then pass the information on to the relevant police authorities.

Comment boards for specific articles are extremely popular and also notoriously hard to moderate. Popular articles often receive comments that run into the thousands over the course of time. In many cases, individuals hostile to the writer's argument deliberately leave obscene comments and images simply to sully the reputation of the website owners. Therefore under the terms of this bill, right-wing extremists from a website like Free Republic could effectively terminate a liberal leaning website like Raw Story by the act of posting a single photograph of a naked child. This precedent could be the kiss of death for blogs as we know them and its reverberations would negatively impact the entire Internet.

Under the banner of saving the children from sexual predators, McCain is obviously on a mission to stamp out the influence of the burgeoning blogosphere and its increasing hostility to the warmongering agenda that he fronts for.

"This constitutionally dubious proposal is being made apparently mostly based on fear or political considerations rather than on the facts," warns Kevin Bankston, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco.

Darmosiel
10-29-2011, 02:25 PM
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Even if you aren't aware of it more and more our Freedom of Speech is being eroded virtually before our eyes. You might wake up to discover this blog one day censored. Enjoy it while you are still able.

As a Librarian I have sworn to uphold the 1st Amendment as a Constitutional Right for all Americans. No matter what your opinions are you have the Right to express it whether that be verbally or in written format.


http://act.demandprogress.org/act/facebook_political/?source=fb

More than 50 blocked pages were political in nature, and several users have had their pages maliciously blocked through fraudulent claims of intellectual property violations. This news follows Facebook's disturbing assertions that it's willing to work with government censors in places like China, and that the company is worried that it sometimes provides "too much" free speech.

Darmosiel
10-29-2011, 04:05 PM
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PLEASE WATCH THE ENTIRETY OF THIS VIDEO AS IT CONTAINS CRITICAL INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW to prevent websites like YouTube, Twitter, Facebook etc. from being shut down as they operate today! The fate of video game playthroughs, music videos, karaoke, pictures, and censorship in general is at stake!

tutonic
10-29-2011, 04:07 PM
1st amendment still there? Yep, I just checked. So sue, you'll win.

Darmosiel
10-29-2011, 04:32 PM
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anatta
10-29-2011, 04:50 PM
This news follows Facebook's disturbing assertions that it's willing to work with government censors in places like China, and that the company is worried that it sometimes provides "too much" free speech. how does one define "too much free speech?"" :disbelief:

Darmosiel
10-29-2011, 04:57 PM
how does one define "too much free speech?"" :disbelief:

It is a strange statement. I saw one you tube vid that claimed Facebook was a CIA project...not certain if it's true or not so I didn't post it.

But here's a comment in Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2231386678

Darmosiel
10-29-2011, 05:05 PM
Well...you've successfully shitcanned one o the most important "evil ripoffs" about to become law in our congress.

This is a Gog Magog fight against big money and basic human rights.

Fight done't come much more important than is the smash and grab control of our OUR internet.

What most concerns our wardens, is the demonstration of cell phone/internet connectivity displayed by the french moslems when rioting in paris.

For days...squads of soldiers...aka police, chased here and there, but by the time they "surrounded" the rioters, they had shared info among their thousands, melted away to regroup in another neighborhood.

In other words, they easily made foolsw out of france's finest for a week or so.

Don't you surmise that cheney-types are studying this ability of the mob's easy mobilization with an eye toward stamping it out?

Can you believe otherwise?

Control wi-fi routers and shut them down at the first sign of disturbance...then the rioters would be like rats in a bucket.

Does that penetrate?????

Stefan

Hey Stefan...we actually know each other from long ago. :hi:

Shhhhh.... ;)