98 Year Old Nun not allowed to Vote today in Indiana

[LadyMod at scam.com]

They are reporting this on CNN right now but I found an article to link to about it. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/6/16128/60589/363/510181

About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow bride of Christ because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow sisters at Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.

The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway.

"One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'" Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.

They weren't given provisional ballots because it would be impossible to get them to a motor vehicle branch and back in the 10-day time frame allotted by the law, Sister McGuire said. "You have to remember that some of these ladies don't walk well. They're in wheelchairs or on walkers or electric carts."



[A] group of voting rights advocates that established a separate hot line reported receiving several calls from would-be voters who were turned away at precincts because they did not have a state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

One newly married woman said she was told she couldn't vote because her driver's license name didn't match the one on her voter registration record, said Myrna Perez of the Brennan Center Justice at New York University's law school, coordinator of the 1-866-OUR-VOTE hot line. Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.

"These laws are confusing. People don't know how they're supposed to be applied," she said.

[Smurf-Herder]

People need to be responsible.

It's designed to cut down on voter fraud.

It's the law.

The nuns could have gotten rides and the girl should have gotten a new license, for a one-time ID.

The nuns couldn't get a ride in the next 10 days? Nuns don't know anbody with a wheelchair van? They're nuns! They have connections with everything. The Catholic Church couldn't find a wheelchair van within a 5 day drive, so their nuns could vote???? Let alone all the months beforehand to plan that daring drive.

[radioguy]

People need to be responsible.

It's designed to cut down on voter fraud.

It's the law.

Yes it is the law, but that matters not to the left.

The libs are against voter registration cards, because it restricts people to only one vote per election, and doesn´t allow illegal aliens to vote.

The law really bites, doesn´t it democrats... lolololololol

[Smurf-Herder]

Tell the nuns I found them a ride: :read:

Indianapolis Yellow Cab (http://ycindy.com/special_needs.html)

Taxicab Service for People who use Wheelchairs or Scooters

"Our ADA-compliant wheelchair-accessible taxicabs are Ford Windstars.

* Fully modified lowered floor and rear-entry access
* Lightweight spring balance fold-down ramp
* Universal wheelchair tie-down system
* Air conditioning, separate rear climate controls, power locks and windows

Call our dispatch line at (317) 487-7777 Monday through Friday from 8a.m. to 4p.m. to make reservations for 24 hour curb to curb wheelchair service. We take reservations up to 48 hours in advance and no less then 2 hours prior to need time. Return rides do not require a reservation. When placing your order please remember to tell the customer service representative that you require a wheelchair accessible taxi.

CICOA Tickets -

If you have "wheelchair tickets" from the Central Indiana Council on Aging, please let us know at the time you call that you will use CICOA tickets."

And it only took ten minutes to find.

[Moby]

Yes it is the law, but that matters not to the left.

The libs are against voter registration cards, because it restricts people to only one vote per election, and doesn´t allow illegal aliens to vote.

The law really bites, doesn´t it democrats... lolololololol
Don't talk about the law. Don't you support amnesty for the telcos that broke the law? You've already built your glass house.

[Moby]

I think people should have IDs in order to vote. What's the problem with it? Everyone should be able to get an ID.

However, why do they make us carry voter registration cards if we also need ID? Shouldn't one or the other be acceptable? I mean, we don't really need Thailand making more documents for us do we?

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I think people should have IDs in order to vote. What's the problem with it? Everyone should be able to get an ID.

However, why do they make us carry voter registration cards if we also need ID? Shouldn't one or the other be acceptable? I mean, we don't really need Thailand making more documents for us do we?


In Texas you can use either. I don't know the policy in other states. It seems stupid to wait to an election year though to make carrying picture ID a law. There is, after all, 4 years between elections and two for state elections.


Lady Mod

[disrupter]

Proves the recent ruling by the Supreme Court got it wrong.

Indiana couldn't demonstrate a SINGLE case of voter fraud.

The only elections being stolen are by the GOP with the aid of diebold & crooked state officials in Florida & Ohio.
Luckily Ohio has gotten rid of the foul fetid Republicans who stole the election in 04.

Smurf & radioguy are exposed as liars & frauds who don't give a fuck about actual democracy.

[radioguy]

Don't talk about the law. Don't you support amnesty for the telcos that broke the law? You've already built your glass house.

Again with changing the subject and launching attacks, rather than dialog... Who ever programmed you Moby, did a pretty good job.

[asroc]

while it's the voter id law is current law for many states, including indiana recently, it's nowhere in the constitution

you'd think those good old strict conservative literal constitution interpreting supreme court judges might have noticed that one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act

[radioguy]

while it's the voter id law is current law for many states, including indiana recently, it's nowhere in the constitution

you'd think those good old strict conservative literal constitution interpreting supreme court judges might have noticed that one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act


That's a lame argument Ian. Just because it isn't in the constitution, doesn't make requiring voter Id cards unconstitutional.

What do you have against them, other than the fact democrats can only vote once now, and illegal aliens can't vote anymore?

[disrupter]

'radioguy, get over it loser'

famous last words from 2000 & 2004 stolen elections.

[Smurf-Herder]

Duh!

Isn't it like the most basic thing to have proper ID, to prove who you are? It sure as hell is when you're driving, buying alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

Arguing against this most basic responsibility as a citizen makes any other argument about fraud hypocritical. You'd be arguing for the easiest way to commit fraud.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Duh!

Isn't it like the most basic thing to have proper ID, to prove who you are? It sure as hell is when you're driving, buying alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

Arguing against this most basic responsibility as a citizen makes any other argument about fraud hypocritical. You'd be arguing for the easiest way to commit fraud.


Most nuns, expecially those of nearly a century ago, did not drive, smoke or buy alcohol.

They lived in their cloisters.

[Smurf-Herder]

Most nuns, expecially those of nearly a century ago, did not drive, smoke or buy alcohol.

They lived in their cloisters.


But they vote.

And I found them a cab.

They have 8 days to make a phone call.

Oh, that's right. Nobody anywhere in this story ever thought to get provisional ballets and CALL A CAB!!!

They didn't think they could get a cab in 10 days? The people at the polls couldn't brainstorm this a tiny bit?

WTF?

This is a story about people being used for propaganda; to make the laws easier to commit voter fraud, by anybody.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

But they vote.

And I found them a cab.

They have 8 days to make a phone call.

Oh, that's right. Nobody anywhere in this story ever thought to get provisional ballets and CALL A CAB!!!

They didn't think they could get a cab in 10 days? The people at the polls couldn't brainstorm this a tiny bit?

WTF?

This is a story about people being used for propaganda; to make the laws easier to commit voter fraud, by anybody.

Are you paying for it too? They take a vow of poverty and they don't get to live high on the hog like the priests do.

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[Smurf-Herder]

Are you paying for it too? They take a vow of poverty and they don't get to live high on the hog like the priests do.

.


excuses, excuses.

The church can't afford cab fare?

This is the dumbest argument.

Why do they want to vote?

Can they afford a TV, to even see the candidates?

They can't afford cab fare. They certainly can't have a TV. right?

Or is a TV more important than voting?


Who's bright idea was it to pull these poor old nuns out to vote, knowing they couldn't, just to make a statement?

[radioguy]

Most nuns, expecially those of nearly a century ago, did not drive, smoke or buy alcohol.

They lived in their cloisters.

Under Indiana's voter ID law, persons lacking proper ID can vote. The only difference is they cast a provisional ballot which is not counted until after their identity is verified within 10 days following the election.

This entire story was another liberal attempt to try and create controversy over the voter ID cards issue. The reason is clear... Democrats are opposed to the prevention of voter fraud, because they benefit from it.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Under Indiana's voter ID law, persons lacking proper ID can vote. The only difference is they cast a provisional ballot which is not counted until after their identity is verified within 10 days following the election.


Really? I was unaware that was how it worked.


They said on the news when the story came up that the law was confusing to understand and it was creating a lot of problems.

Now having a law that is confusing shouldn't be that big of a surprise. That is how "legal speak" is written.

It's the timing of the whole deal I found more disturbing. Well, irritating anyway.


Lady Mod

[radioguy]

Really? I was unaware that was how it worked.


They said on the news when the story came up that the law was confusing to understand and it was creating a lot of problems.

You don't have to answer this question Lady Mod, but what news network did you hear that the Indiana law was confusing?

[LadyMod at scam.com]

You don't have to answer this question Lady Mod, but what news network did you hear that the Indiana law was confusing?

It was CNN, RG. I only know this because of the big Call letters in the lower corner.

I just flipped through the channels on the screen until I found one with the Primary coverage.

I only turned on the television in my office (My monitor is cable ready and acts as a second television once in awhile as I won't allow a tv in my daughters bedroom) because I wanted to know the primary results in real time. I don't usually bother watching television.


Lady Mod

[radioguy]

Thanks... Was just curious.

[radioguy]

Lady Mod, here is the the law from the Indiana government website (http://www.in.gov/sos/photoid/)... Does this seem at all confusing to you?

Public Law 109-2005 requires Indiana residents to present a government-issued photo ID before casting a ballot at the polls on Election Day.

Your photo ID must meet 4 criteria to be acceptable for voting purposes. It Must:

1. Display your photo

2. Display your name, and the name must conform to your voter registration record. Conform does not mean identical. Below are examples of names that would conform to "Robert John Crew"

Robert John Crew
Robert J. Crew
Robert Crew
R. John Crew
R. J. Crew
Bob John Crew
Bob J. Crew
Bob Crew
John Crew
J. Crew

3. Display an expiration date and either be current or have expired sometime after the date of the last General Election (November 7, 2006)


Including Military IDs with expiration does of "INDEF"
4. Be issued by the State of Indiana or the U.S. government

In most cases, an Indiana driver license, Indiana photo ID card, Military ID or U.S. Passport is sufficient.

A student ID from an Indiana State school may only be used if it meets all of the 4 criteria specified above. A student ID from a private institution may not be used for voting purposes. For more Information for College Students click here.

If you are unable or unwilling to present ID meeting these requirements, you may cast a provisional ballot. If you cast a provisional ballot, you have until noon 10 days after the election to follow up with the county election board and either provide the necessary documentation or affirm one of the law’s exemptions applies to you.

I can't imagine someone working or commentating for any network news agency finding this "confusing"... Can you?

[disrupter]

Right wingers are strong proponents of the police state & national IDs AND complete elimination of privacy rights.

NAZIs to a man or woman.

edit:
CORRECTION: Right wingers are NAZIs to a boy or girl,
because they don't have the intellects of actual ADULTs.

little sticky candy children.
They believe in highly centralized tar balls.