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Bill
05-01-2008, 10:30 PM
Looks like 'dollar only' may not be so accurate.

http://www.platts.com/weblog/oilblog/2008/04/gold_isnt_buying_as_much_oil_a.html

Gold isn't buying as much oil as it used to

A talking head on television this weekend was discussing the worldwide price of rice, and noted that its relationship to gold had changed little. Over the past several months, she said, the amount of rice that an ounce of gold would buy had not changed significantly.

This, of course, led The Barrel to check what had happened to the relationship between gold and oil these last few months. The numbers are sobering.

We compared the price of the Handy & Harman daily gold fix to the Platts' daily assessment of WTI. The question: how many barrels of WTI would an ounce of gold buy?

We started with last September, when the number was about 9 barrels per ounce. Beginning in January, the number soared, as the price of gold climbed and oil fell. By February 6, the number of barrels of oil that you could fetch with an ounce of gold had risen to 10.35.

The change since then has been remarkable, and it strongly undercuts the idea that the rise in the price of oil is simply a financial phenomenon. If gold is the ultimate storehouse of value and the currency of last resort, a commodity that is being driven primarily by currency factors should not be strengthening against that currency.

But as of last Friday, an ounce of gold could only buy 7.44 barrels of WTI, a strengthening of more than 23% since the February 6 alternate peak. The purchasing power of an ounce of gold has strengthened by almost one full barrel just since April 11.

With the gains in oil in Euro terms, and in gold terms; the fact that diesel has outperformed crude; and now with with the recent declines in production that we wrote about in this post , the case for fundamentals being in the drivers seat in this market is looking stronger every day.

But Platts' LInda Rafield reports that these sort of levels are far below historic norms, meaning either that crude is going to come off or gold is going to rise to get back toward those norms. Just since September, that average ratio is 8.97, and if gold were to hold at current levels, oil would need to fall to about $100.50/b to reach that level.

Smurf-Herder
05-01-2008, 10:38 PM
Bill, your thread title sounds somewhat Biblical. :oldman:

Bill
05-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha - that's pretty funny.

Biblical indeed.

what we need is some of that special oil that burns for seven days and nights.

Smurf-Herder
05-01-2008, 10:48 PM
"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

"And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."

"And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Bill
05-02-2008, 11:26 AM
One of my least favorite of all the books in the bible, technically, despite the prettiness of it.

But it is pretty. Good poetic writing, and it's become the very model of western apocalyptic style.

Nice reference tho.

"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."

Ha ha ha - see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!

I'll bet there are plenty of folks re-reading their revelations these days.

Heck, I might just re-read it. The question is, which version?

Is that pure king james, or some other?

Smurf-Herder
05-02-2008, 07:48 PM
One of my least favorite of all the books in the bible, technically, despite the prettiness of it.

But it is pretty. Good poetic writing, and it's become the very model of western apocalyptic style.

Nice reference tho.

"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."

Ha ha ha - see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!

I'll bet there are plenty of folks re-reading their revelations these days.

Heck, I might just re-read it. The question is, which version?

Is that pure king james, or some other?

That was from the "Book of the Revelation" Chapter Six.

King James. Get the oldest version you can, with a reference to the original translation. For instance, the word "world" actually has five different meanings, in original language texts; but was translated world in English. Get a Thompson chain reference bible.